Discuss Psalms 115

Psalms 115:17

17The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.

And JESUS said (around 2000 years ago): let the dead (they which have not the Spirit of GOD, Spirit of life) bury their dead. Matthew 8:17

Daniel 12:1-2 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16

Michael comes first, and after of him comes Lord JESUS.

12:1 at that time(at this current time, or at this Day, the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day/millennium)shall Michael (the archangel) stand up, ...

12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake (RESURRECTION), some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

1 Thes.4:15- For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord (the Word is GOD, self-executing), that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent(precede) them which are asleep.

1 Thes. 4:16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel-Michael- , and with the Trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

And 1Corinthians 15:51-54 reveal:

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery;We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,(Compare with Philippians 3:20-21)

52 ...at the last trump:for the trumpet shall sound,and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,and we shall be changed.

(the trumpet shall sound:Re.11:15-And the seventh angel sounded;and there were great voices in heaven(heaven??? Ephesians 1:3-8), saying, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Matthew 5:5-JESUS said: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth).

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. (CAUGHT???)

54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,Death is swallowed up in victory.-Hallelujaaaah!!!

Get ready --> Matthew 25:10

Ps.115:16 "Heavens"

"The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men."

Easton's Bible gives us "The heaven of heavens," or "the third heaven" ( Deuteronomy 10:14; 1 Kings 8:27; Psalms 115:16; 148:4; 2 Corinthians 12:2). Simplest way to make sense of these three heavens is to use the same yardstick St John used in measuring the holy city of God. Angel aspect of the Son is with regards to the everlasting Gospel. So Jesus tells his disciples, "I go to prepare a place, "I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."( John 14:6). I am the way specifies exactly is Person specific. The risen Christ dies no more. No meaningful discussion we can have without abiding in him. Second aspect is the man component. The Word become flesh means whosoever abides in the Son loves God with "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might./And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart."(De.6:5-6).

"According to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel" New Jerusalem" is scaled so shall the three heavens since all things in heaven on the earth and below are by him consist. "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:/And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."(Col.1:15-19)

Brightness of his glory(The throne of God and of the Lamb), Gospel as a body (the church) and symbolism of fire water and rock are three heavens. In short Spirit, Body and Soul the Trinity underpin the earth. God gave the earth to the children of men in the Son. God blessed them in his Son. " And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness."(Ge.1:26-28) Old Testament and New Testament is a infelicitous way of defining the everlasting Covenant.

Psalm 107:8, 15, 21, 31.

Psalm 90:3, 45:2, 36:7

Lamentations 3:33

Psalm 66:3-66:6

Proverbs 15:11

Psalms 115:16

The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

There may be over a hundred of references. Read these, and if what you seek isn't in these verses; put the phrase "children of men"

[In the SEARCH BOX on the red link page.]

The phrase itself means: humans

Hey Clint,

Heaven, facts, or personal beliefs could be quite diverse. The Bible tells us heaven is God's dwelling place, 2 Chronicles 36:15, God's holy temple and throne are in heaven, Psalms 11:4, and the angels are in heaven, Matthew 22:30. The tabernacle Moses was instructed to build was a copy of the one in heaven, Hebrews 8:5.

The Bible tells us no man has ascended up to heaven, John 3:13. The Bible tells us heaven even the heavens are the LORDs and the earth is for the children of men, Psalms 115:16. We are told several times, that heaven along with the earth will be changed and made new, Isaiah 65:17 Isaiah 66:22 2 Peter 3:13 Revelation 21:1, and the new earth is where those whose names are in the book of life will be and God will dwell with us, and we will see His face Revelation 21,22.

If you are thinking, like the question, we hear, are you going to heaven when you die? That is something else. My understanding of scripture is the only way man will see heaven is in a vision like Paul, 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 and John, Revelation.

God bless,

RLW

Hey SolaScrip,

Is there scripture outside Revelation that confirms an exact 1000 years? The answer is no. Are there false teachers out there? The answer is yes, there are many, 1 John 4:1. Are there scriptures that say the Son of God will reign on earth? The answer is yes. Psalm 2:6-9 Psalm 22:27-31 Isaiah 2:1-4 Isaiah 9:6-7 Isaiah 24:21-23 Jeremiah 23:5 Ezekiel 20:33-44 Ezekiel 39:21-29 Zechariah 2:10-13 Zechariah 8:2-3 Zechariah 14:1-9 Matthew 19:28 Revelation 11:15 Revelation 20:4 and more.

Is there any scripture that says people will go to or reign in heaven? The answer is no. Are there scriptures that say the elect will reign with Jesus on earth? The answer is yes. Daniel 7:27 2 Timothy 2:11-13 Revelation 5:10. Are there scriptures that describe how things change after Jesus returns? The answer is yes. Zechariah 8:4 Isaiah 11 Isaiah 60:15 Isaiah 65:18-25. These people will be alive on the second coming of Jesus, they will have the opportunity to live longer if they choose to obey God.

Are there things that have not been revealed to us? The answer is, yes? Jesus will return and set up the kingdom here on earth and He will put all enemies under His feet, 1 Corinthians 15:25. Will death still be during the time Jesus is ruling? The answer is yes. The purpose is to fulfill the rest of the scriptures with Jesus, Israel, the Gentiles, and creation that has not yet been fulfilled.

The only scripture that gives us 1000 years is Revelation, but many scriptures tell us the kingdom will be set up on earth. We have these, Numbers 14:21 Psalms 115:16 Micah 4:1-3 Matthew 5:5 Matthew 6:10. Not to debate, with the time it will take I cannot say the 1000 years are false.

God bless,

RLW

Hey Jerry Donald Stoller,

I am sure many may disagree, but I have not found any scripture that says outright we will be taken, or we will go to heaven. Many uses 1 Thessalonians 4:17 as the church meets Jesus in the air and are taken to heaven, but this verse does not say where we go after we meet Jesus in the air.

Psalms 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

Revelation 21:1-3 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

The saved eternal life will be as from the beginning, on earth, but it will be made new.

God bless,

RLW

Here are several scriptures I found about death & after death : James 2:26, Ecclesiasticus 38:23, Ecclesiasticus 22:11, 2 Maccabees 7:36, 2 Maccabees 12:44, Ecclesiasticus 10:11, Ecclesiasticus 17:28, Baruch, 2:17, Psalms 88:10, Psalms 115:11, Ecclesiastes 9:5,

after death,: Matthew 17:1-3, Luke 7:12-16, Luke 8:49-56, John 11:21-45, Matthew 27:50-54, Luke 16:22-31, John 21:14, Acts 3:15, Acts 4:10, Mark 12:25,26,27, Luke 24:46, John 5:12, John 5:25, 1 Peter 1:3, 1 Peter 2:24, 1 Peter 4:5, Revelation 1:5, Revelation 1:18, Revelation 14:9-20, 1 Corinthians 15:20,21, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:9, Matthew 22:32, Isaiah 26:19,

Hebrews 11:35, Revelation 20, 2 Esdras 2:16, Hebrews 6:2, Hebrews 9:14, Hebrews 11:4, Hebrews 13:20, Revelation 11:18,

Hopefully these are helpful.

"Verily,Verily." (well said)

David The biggest problem with this country is self worship, people say in God we trust don't tell me show me. The citizens of this country believe because were Americans we're entitled to have our freedom our way. This country is one of the greatest examples of corrupt religious thought on display. Many say but don't do, churches have become political, famous so called christian personalities will show up and say vote for so and so and collect money for them to be elected, show me where that's scriptural. The leaders have bowed down to dope and greed and politics and LBQTZXY and whatever movement. Mark my words no other country will take us over the enemy is doing the same that he has always done in societies and in the church divide and take over. I've made up my mind I'll stand on my freedom in Christ Jesus.

I continue to pray for the nation which is not only contradicting constitutional law but also abusing. Remember biblically the love of money is the root of all evil, nothing has changed, in this country as long as I got mine I don't care.

The reason I know this is because too many other people have said those exact words to me. The other statement I get I have God my way good luck with that.

Amen, David.

The direction of our nation and our culture, in general, is concerning. We, as a nation, have strayed so far from God and His truth. Christians have compromised trying to fit in with the culture and follow God at the same time. this really does not work out well. Our witness is diminished because the world sees our hypocrisy, as they hold Christians to a higher standard than themselves, the unbelieving, (this shows that they know what is right and refuse to do it.) It damages our character, giving a place for the work of the evil one. We fall into temptation more easily due to this compromise. Shedding the ways of the world is difficult ,perhaps more so in this generation. I for one,, have been working on this all of my . It is easier to do at my age (65) because I am no longer trying to impress others or be "relevant" to others by participating in worldly activities. I still want to "be all things to all people" as Paul endeavored to do, but this does not mean compromising godliness.

I pray for a revival in our nation, where the Christian citizenry will wake up and smell the roses to see how dire our nation's spiritual situation is; and I pray that many unbelievers will be stirred to seek the Lord. The church needs to be ready to receive these people lovingly and readily incorporating them into a body of believers that takes godly living

seriously. Our day to day living is a large part of our witness of being changed as a result of turning to Jesus. We should not resist the Holy Spirit in this.

I pray for our nation's leaders, that they will be humbled by God, that God would search them and show them any wicked way in them. I pray that many leaders will turn away from corrupt ways that hinder their calling to serve the citizens. We, as believers, should be asking God to also search us to show us our sin, so we will confess our sins and accept forgiveness, empower us to turn away from known sin, and be renewed continually by God's Holy Spirit in us.

Thank You LORD Jesus for Your infinite mercy and grace. Help me stand fast in Your Word and serve You as I should. Bless our nation that we acknowledge Your Wisdom and Love for all. I pray for the Lost. May they turn to You LORD and not be lost for all eternity.

Let Your face shine brilliantly on all who love You. Bless Your saints with Your protective Hand. We look forward to Your return.

November 14, 2021

Genesis 1:16 Just refering to God making lights in the firmament of heaven, not a word about space

1 Cor 15:14 Nothing to do with space

Genesis 2:4 Not related at all

Psalms 115:16

16The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

"the lack of breathable atmosphere, radiation, medical complications?"

What? Scripture is not for private interpretation.

None of the rest of the verses have at all any implication of space, please point me the exact words or phrase, where the existence of space is even remotely implied. I will point you to exact words where space is outright denied, in a second.

But some of the verses you provided actually hint at the solid nature of heavens.

Isaiah 40:

"Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?"

First of all, not a word about other planets, second "meted out heaven with the span". It's impossible to measure something with a span that is not solid.

Job 22:12 Is not God in the height of heaven? and behold the height of the stars, how high they are!

Space has no height, it stretches in all directions, solid heavens have height.

Joel 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble

How something not solid can tremble?

Now I assure you, there's plenty of scripture that directly states, that the earth is flat, unmovable, and there's no space or other planets, but I would like you to debunk first this one please:

Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Where are the waters above?

Genius 1:16

Amos 5:8

1 Corinthians 15:14

Genius 2:4

Psalms 115:16 (space) the lack of breathable atmosphere, radiation, medical complications?

Psalms 147:4

Psalms 136:9

Revelation 6:13

Job 25:5

Job 9:7

Job 22:12

Psalms 8:3

Joel 2:10 Eclipse? Ezekiel 32:7 , Isaiah 50:3

Isaiah 13:10

Isaiah 40::22

Hopefully these scripture verses help you better research the Bible & what more it says about Earth, and space. There are more.

I use to believe the Roman Catholic teaching of consciousness after death. Like you are not really dead, but go to Heaven, Hell or Purgatory. (And there if in Hell, burn eternally, with no hope of an end).

However, since then I have read in God's Word that this is not so. In John 11:11-14, Jesus tell His apostles that Lazarus is sleeping, but Jesus goes to wake him up. Finally, Jesus tells His apostles that Lazarus is dead. Also, see 1

Thessalonians 4:15-17. And, John 5:28-29. See, Genus 2:7. Ecclesiastes 12:7. Importantly, Psalms 146:3-4. Again, "Who Only Has Immortality? See, 1 Timothy 6:16. And those who SEEK, Romans 2:7. In 1 Corinthians 15:51-54 we learn.... Knowing what God's Word really says is priceless, see, Psalms 115:17, "The dead praise NOT the LORD, neither any that go down into silence." Must read, Ecclesiae's 9:5,6, 10. 5."For the living know that they shall die; but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of then is forgotten. 6. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. 10. Whatsoever thy hand findet to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goes." NOTE: 2 Timothy 3:16, "ALL Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" There is more, but I think by now you get the idea.... God bless you as you prayerfully Study the above....

Hello Sacha,

No need to be sorry, you have created no havoc. As the "everyone is to be saved" part I don't think I stated you said that. Just that I went through thinking that a while ago. Just in line with "no hell" which is what I think you believe.

About the couple verses you stated for me as an answer to the first analogy I wrote "I just really see it as if we say there is a hell and there really isn't what wrong have we done" which is Christ quoting Isaiah 29:13. Which I can't quite link that to this. Then quoting the end of Revelation about changing the prophesies of the Bible. That is why I believe there is a place of eternal torment or "hell". Because the Bible says so. As you didn't reply to the second analogy in that "if people don't believe in "hell" though it really exists". How this could be dangerous to others in my eyes.

As Adam gave a good reply about to "fear God". This teaching is throughout the Bible as we are also to love Him. Say how you would love your dad but if you do something wrong you may be whipped for it and scared to know it's coming. Though this is much higher as with God. A couple more verses for you Psalms 34:9, Psalms 115:13, Proverbs 3:7, Luke 1:50, Romans 3:18, 2 Corinthians 7:1, Hebrews 12:28, Revelation 19:5.

As I have over forty verses to love God.

To the last statement of "if they told you that they had had a near death or actual death experience that fully validated substantiated and confirmed all their religious beliefs ?" Well, as there are hundreds probably thousands of NDE's and some have no experience at all. I have never heard of someone meeting Buddah, Allah, or Muhammed etc. Though I have seen people converted to Christ from those other religions. Even Atheists who didn't believe. As there are many and all are personal and unique. There are many things that connect with the teachings of the Scriptures.

In kindness.

God Bless.

Amen.God is real and his name is Jehovah his only son Christ Jesus our/my saviour our lord,we are God's creation in his image and likeness men and women,with free will to design our future through fearing God and having the faith that He can change any situation to better one;however the situation is it ever possible with Jehovah's real servants,all the glory to Him only not to our selves;the one to avenge is God only don't avenge for yourself if you do He will get angry and discpline you and your generation together;get and be angry no problem but never let full day finish in your anger because if you allow that to happen you will act badly after;take the law in your hands and avenge for yourselves,to God Jehovah alone be the glory not to us oh God.

GOD ALMIGHTY is a living GOD..

we should alway trust in him,every other god are dead.

God cares for his children,and he never let them down ....

For Ps115:: we have an Awsome God/Father He love n care so much for us that He called Us His Children or better yet His Friend He just want Us to talk to Him asa friend. He's the best friend l ever have/had He knows our needs even before we ask He answers...some time it's just not the right moment but He hearsHe feelsHe sees He smells nHe talks to us in a still soft voice but don't get Him angry He roars like alion n the earth trembles n shake

He made us in His own image n He would like a relationship with Us so We need to Praise n give Him thanks to be such a kind Father/Our Heavenly Daddy

Be Blessed

I will also praise the Lord everyday!My Prayers always for others and not just for me and my Family.

Throughout the day I am petitioning Gods and believing. My prayers are answered and I praise

God. Yes, the Lord is increasing me more and more because I walk by Faith and not by Sight.

I treasure the "relationship " that I have with God. You can have that same relationship when you

yield to God, walk with him, praises and thankfulness sends all blessings down. Praise God! Amen.

This Psalms blessed my heart! Second time reading it. I usually ask God to direct me
to a Scripture and he does.The verse that speaks to me " He will bless me more and
more , even my children. I feel the blessings coming on. I will faithfully praise and
thank God for everything. In times like this, I am glad to know God! Happy to be
His child . All sins are forgiven never more to remember them. I will meditate day
and night. I will live the best Christ like life that I can. Amen!

This book of psalm will do something to my life very inportant, it will change my life from unuseful things and sins am into. Thank you Jesus

Amen amen amen

Thank you lore of host for your mercy love and kindness you alone are to be praise

Thank you Lord for your blessings for salvation for goodness and masses is with me I love you Lord Jesus Christ touch my family and consecrate is heavenly father,

In virse 4 their idols are silver and gold when moses

went up in the mountain the children of. Broke the second commandment,

“Keeping the wedge satan drives between the true believer, I am kept for him, Christ Jehovah God who LOVES me most;ditto I am blessed.......ditto I am healed...........ditto I am in control of all my thoughts and not satan, brain chemistry distorted by any gossip, self loathing, hatred, nay sayers and all those that worship idols etc.”

V:4 Their idols are "silver" and "gold", the work of men's hands. (AMEN to this verse because 2018, we the people of earth (both the saved

This Scripture was so uplifting for me in my time of need. I LOVE THE LORD.....HE IS ALL THAT I HAVE!! I AM BLESSED I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS! AMEN!

I see David repeated 3 times that we should trust in the Lord, which is the area we lack and Christians sometimes, when thing go well we seems to forget to trust God, when thing are hard that's when we pray all the times. i pray that God help us to trust in Him instead of leaning in our understanding. He is God the Creator of Heaven and Earth and He loves us so much