Discuss Psalms 13

  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Jesse,

    Part 1

    If I may add a few points to this subject, I know we have different understandings on this and I hope you will not be offended, these are questions I have asked myself. What does Scripture support, our soul is an immortal entity that consciously lives on after the death of the body or does it sleep in the grave until the resurrection? Is the definition of death a separation of the soul from the body or is it the end of life, a permanent cessation, and the grave is our home until we are resurrected?

    John 3:15-16 Without the belief in Jesus we will perish the Greek word apollumi means destroy utterly, to put out of the way entirely, abolish as in Psalms 37:10 Psalms 92:7 Proverbs 10:28-29 Job 20:4-7 Malachi 4:1-3 2 Peter 2:12.

    Matthew 10:28 we are to fear the one who can destroy the body and the soul in hell, the Greek word for destroy is apollumi same as perish, a permanent/absolute destruction. Hell, the Greek word is geenna the fire and smoke that goes up and burns forever that never goes out is a reference to the lake of fire. Job 17:13 the Hebrew word sheol is the same word translated as hell. Job 17:16 the word pit is the same Hebrew word.

    Our first death is sleep, Psalms 13:3 Daniel 12:2 Acts 13:36 1 Cor. 15:51. If all souls are immortal which means they have eternal life, the question must be asked, what is the gift of eternal life we see in John 3:15 John 6:54 Romans 6:23 Titus 1:2 1 John 2:25 Jude 1:21? If our soul is immortal, why do we have to put immortality on as said in 1 Corinthians 15:51-58?

    See part 2
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Daniel 12 - 1 year ago
    Hi Michaelstephen,

    I agree when we die this life is over, we are no longer in the time we live in, minutes, hours, days, and years for there is no knowledge in death. That is why death in the Bible is called sleep, Psalms 13:3 Daniel 12:2. It is like when we go to sleep we do not have any knowledge of time or what is going on around us. When we die it is like we go to sleep and the next thing we know is when we are resurrected, we awake from death, whether it is a day, or thousands of years.

    God bless.

    RLW
  • Adam - In Reply on 2 Timothy 1 - 1 year ago
    Hi Mary,

    Consider that the KJV uses the word sleep for being dead awaiting Christ's return.

    "Consider and hear me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;" Psalms 13:3 KJV

    "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him." 1 Thessalonians 4:14 KJV

    "These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep." John 11:11 KJV

    "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

    In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 KJV

    "And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed." Romans 13:11 KJV

    The Bible talks about a "day" of judgment, rather than people being judged sporadically.

    "Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world." 1 John 4:17 KJV

    And it says no one escapes judgment- people often think they skip this for some reason despite what the Bible says:

    "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad." 2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV

    So, when these verses are put together it seems like all will be judged on the same day (also consistent with the vision in Revelation) and that people won't go to heaven until they're first judged, and it then makes sense where it says the dead will rise to meet Jesus in the air. So, to me it all seems logical, what happens. Despite all this evidence in God's word, many people still prefer to believe something else that makes them feel good, however.
  • Hol - In Reply on Psalms 13 - 1 year ago
    True..we are not enemies but she hates me with passion.... for my side there's nothing am fighting with the neighbor ..but she cant resist me its not about the building actually there's more cause in 2013 she told one of my neighbors that i have taken the other neighbors space by building a boundary wall ..but that neighbor didn't entertain her as she was happy that at least she will save from buying material to build cause she is now safe because of that wall i built.

    At the same time she laughs with me not knowing she's busy talking bad about me to other neighbors in a way that my kids were playing with hers .I didn't see it coming the problem she literally hates me with passion.
  • Disciple James - In Reply on Psalms 13 - 1 year ago
    Invite the neighbor out for dinner. You are not enemies, at the end of the day. Something is a miss and maybe there are other ways to make this person happy. Become friends. Work together. Get to the real issue. Ask him what you can do. Ask for a compromise. Ask his family for help. Do everything you can with Love and then again ask for forgiveness one more time before heading to court.
  • Giannis - In Reply on Psalms 13 - 1 year ago
    James 5:16

    "The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."
  • Busisiwe Charity Peter on Psalms 13 - 1 year ago
    Hello i am really praying hard everyday in a way that i sometimes dont have words anymore to speak to my God.A neighbour wants me down,Am going to courts due to the building i built and the neighbor told me straight that s/he will make sure that it is demolished.Am busy with the plan and has been submitted and they are giving me 30 days to have an approved plan .Am going to court on the 7th February 2023 and need some prayers and powerful verses that will uplift my spirit and have faith that this too shall pass on my favour by the Grace of God.
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    I will rise now and go about the city in the streets and in the broad way i will seek him whom my soul loveth i sought him but i found him not the watchman that go about the city found me to whom i said saw ye him whom my soul loveth it was but a little that i passed from tham but i found him whom my soul loveth i held him and would not let him go until i had brought him into my mathars house and into the chamber of her that conceived me
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    Sing O ye heaven for the LORD hath done it shout ye lower parts of the earth break forth into singing ye mountains o forest and every tree there in for the LORD hath redeemed Jacob and glorified himself in lsrael
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    I kneel down to make this prayer for me may God open doors that no man can ever close In my life
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    This is a very short Psalm. Nonetheless; we can ponder a theme here which is apparently a subject in the forefront of David's mind throughout the first section at least of Psalms; namely a petition for God to give him victory over his enemies and to heed to his sufferings.

    As with many of these inspired writings; we certainly can look at Christ as being prophetically referenced to here. We are reminded of Psalm 22; as well as the times when Christ Himself said "why have you foresaken me?" ( Matt. 27:46). There is ultimate trust in David in verse 5; which we can all cling onto. Only Christ had to have that unspeakable horror of God's mercy removed for that brief moment in time. Only Christ COULDN'T pray for salvation of His soul (unnecessary for a member of the deity). But only He could procure the punishment for our sin as an atonement; and hence WOULD not be released from being a sin offering as it was clearly part of God's plan for the redemption of man.

    We also are remined in Psalm 23:5 where a table is prepared in the presence of enemies. This could certainly apply to us; in the Millennium Kingdom as well as the Lord Himself when He rules with an iron rod. Any saint of God recognizes in general that they are in enemy territory lest they become too content in the world which is about to perish as it exists now in its fallen state under Satan's control. We are reminded of Christ's admonition to us that a servant is no greater than his master ( Jn. 13:16) and can truly understand we also will have trials as the Lord Himself was the "man of sorrows" ( iSAIAH 53:3). Man is but a vapor ( Romans 8:7 and mentioned further in Psalm 62:9; etal.
  • Growing Up in Our Faith - In Reply on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    It helps if you describe briefly what kind of warfare you're going through. It can be physical, mental or emotional or spirits.

    I went through the whole list. With Jesus inside of you, "they" know their time is over. Satan will accuse that you are not saved! That hurts but is not the Truth. I tell everyone to write the date of salvation in your Bible. "It is written!"

    LUKE 11:24-26

    Christ sends the evil spirits away. But if we neglect feeding on the Bible frequently; building up our most holy faith..

    The spirits may return: Luke 11:24-26 (the stronger man is Jesus 11:21). You must furnish yourself with Bible, Praise, and Assembling with the church folk)

    A reading list for you:

    Ephesians 6

    * Acts 19:19

    Galatians 3:13

    Luke 6:28

    Matthew 5:44

    Ephesians 2:13

    The angels are sent by God, so we can ask in prayer for their presence in our homes. Act on the promises of the Lord. God wants us to go on from being milk fed baby Christians, to stand up and be warriors of FAITH in ahi's Word.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    Not sure if you are saying can they be bothered IF you are going through spiritual warfare; or if anyone wishes to give wise counsel on the subject.

    As to help; of course you need to be in a place where you repent of known sin and are truly seeking to walk in the Spirit; not just to avoid the consequences of your actions as the enemy is allowed to mess with you perhaps accusing you of areas which you have not placed under the blood; as it were trusting God for deliverance. If you are at that point; it is good to trust God to bring those who are Spirit filled and discerning to bring deliverance when needed. Fellowship at any true church if not part of your life should be sought out. Don't worry so much in trying to find someone who is on the outside appearing to be more "Charismatic" as it were. There are servants equipped to come to your aid; an in fact may themselves be in need to pray for you to be strengthened in the Spirit. When we help others in the Body of Christ it truly helps us; as no matter how weak we may be in the flesh; the Spirit has an endless amount of resources available. Also be careful who NOT to associate with or even pray with; should they have a demonic spirit or not give Godly counsel. The Lord will speak to you on those issues.

    There rarely exists spiritual warfare alone without extenuating emotional; abuse; or other conditions affecting the mind; body and soul. A big part of achieving freedom is having the fear of death removed; no one can touch you unless God allows it. There are times; of course when people need to step in; obviously this goes beyond the bounds of how I can help you here.

    I will keep you in prayer for now; if there is anything specific I suppose you can write a response for targeted prayer again; within parameters allowed here.

    Lastly; set forth time and effort to help set OTHERS free. Don't assume your brokenness renders you ineffective; surely the enemy doesn't want you to minister to others.
  • Adam - In Reply on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    Hi Maria,

    I'm not aware of anywhere in the Bible addressing your question. I personally believe the answer is no that whatever spiritual things you're experience is specific to you. If you are experiencing spiritual warfare I would choose deliberately the side you want to be on and be prepared. Ephesians 6:17 and around this chapter talks about how to prepare and defend yourself from such battles. Basically dedicating yourself to following Christ, read the Bible regularly, pray, and seek fellowship with other believers is a way to strengthen your faith. Some believe in generational curses and we do live with consequences of curses from Adam and Eve, such as hard work, labor pain, etc. Hope this is helpful in some way.
  • Maria on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    Hello

    Have a question

    My name is Maria

    Can people around me be bothered I I'm going thru spiritual warfare ?
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    This is a fascinating thing. I heard a sermon one time saying the words spoken about "if someone sees the face of GOD they cannot live" he said "they cannot live, the same" Is this the question you're looking deeper into? Genesis 32:20,30, Exodus 33:11, Exodus 34:28-30,35,

    It would be very interesting to do a study on the words. Exodus 3:6, Exodus 33:20,23, Numbers 6:25, Deuteronomy 5:1-5, Deuteronomy 31:17,18, Deuteronomy 32:20, Deuteronomy 34:10, Judges 6:22, 1Kings 13:6, 1Chronicles 16:11, 2Chronicles 7:14, 2Chronicles 30:9, Psalms 13:1, Psalms 17:5, Psalms 22:24, Psalms 105:4, Isaiah 54:8, Isaiah 59:2, Jeremiah 21:10, Ezekiel 20:35,

    Perhaps it's the word "man" that the emphasise is. Romans 8:14, Galatians 4:6, Hebrews 12:7, John 1:12, Philippians 2:15, 1John 3:1,2 , 1John 4:15, How sad it is when a living father says "see his face no more" or turns his face.

    Genesis 3:8-10, interestingly, in this translation it says they heard "the voice of the LORD" they "hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God"

    What's amazing is: Genesis 4:16, it appears even though they were cast out of the garden GOD's presence was still with them.

    Psalms 139, Job 4:15,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Gerald Busch - In Reply on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    I needed Psalm 13 was for the ullage to give as part of my wife Ruth's funeral, she passed away on the morning of April the 7th.

    Ruth had a very difficult life, she became my second wife almost 17 years ago in 2005, I was then 55yrs. and Ruth 65.

    God gave a dream back in April 1986, at that time I was serving on the Parish Council for the Pio Pio / Aria co-operating parish, and God had planed all of this as with the rest of my life it so happened that an Interpreter of dreams was arriving in New Zealand from America in a few weeks, his name being Mr Herman Riffel. I then made the necessary arrangements to meet with him.

    After praying over this as I written down and verbalised it to him he said this was a dream for future and that God give you his own interpretation in His time!

    I was in Papua New Guinea 14 years later when at 50 I had a mild stroke which brought about being medevacked home. Six month after arriving I realised I was beginning to live this dream.

    Twenty years I have been living this dream in which Ruth became an intricate part of.

    Psalm 13 Ties up both our live to a tee. In Ruth's case, she wrote a pome at age 13 a pome I read some 18 months of marriage, Her life which she lived was living version of the Pome. My 20yrs. of living out the dream I had 1986 Through with the Grace of God and The Holy Spirit has developed gifts which I had abused and given me extreme insight which I only realised I had the ability in my twenties but nothing to what it has become.

    If by chance you would like a copy of Ruth's and my dream with a very nave interpretation which is changing by the month now please do come back to me.

    Kindest Regards,

    Gerald Kenneth Busch.
  • A Prayer - In Reply on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    Psalms Chapter 13

    (To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.) How long wilt thou forget me, O LORD? for ever? how long wilt thou hide thy face from me?

    2 How long shall I take counsel in my soul, having sorrow in my heart daily? how long shall mine enemy be exalted over me?

    3 Consider and hear me, O LORD my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death;

    4 Lest mine enemy say, I have prevailed against him; and those that trouble me rejoice when I am moved.

    5 But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation.

    6 I will sing unto the LORD, because he hath dealt bountifully with me.

    I am sorry for your loss at this time. I comfort you. Everything from the hand of the Lord is good and not to be refused.
  • Gerald Busch on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    I wish to copy this Psalm for a FUNERAL.
  • Sincerely on Psalms 13 - 2 years ago
    Verse 5 says I have trusted in your Mercy. My heart shall rejoice in thy Salvation. It is because I know a Man who has enough Grace and Mercy to save an entire World. God loves us with such passion we can only imagine His thoughts of Grandeur. He is ever present, and no matter what we may have to face. Put God first and He will make a way out. My life was a total disaster. I looked as if I could use a helping hand without anyone asking me. There is truly a look in a desperate situation. Your circumstances can take you down. God is waiting with open arms. If you ask him to help you; He will. (Matthew chapter 7, verse 7)

    Ask and it shall be given you; Seek and you shall find; Knock and it shall be opened unto you.

    The way to Jesus Christ is believing He walked the Earth as a Man; died on the Cross for our sins; and rose again on the third day. He is in Heaven with His Father sitting on the right side of the throne. He will come again for the final Judgement. We all need to be ready at any moment. Death comes quick. There is no second time around; no, wait a minute I'm still trying to choose; no more chances; no more wait until I am ready. It's self that can sometimes get in the way and it's not worth losing your eternal life with Jesus Christ. Remember Death can come in a moment in the twinkling of an eye. Be ready to meet the Lord; pray that you do.
  • Kathy West on Psalms 13 - 3 years ago
    God is our present help in times of trouble! he's our refuge from every storm that arises in our life! mark 11:22 tells us to have faith in our god"! god's presence is always in the midst of his chosen people! we serve a god that never slumbers ir sleep!
  • Anthony C on Psalms 13 - 4 years ago
    Our greatest hope comes from trusting in god!!!
  • Vanessa on Psalms 13 - 5 years ago
    God knows our troubles and our needs, trust in him by faith with prayer, ask it to be his will. Through the blood of Yeshua we have salvation that should bring us peace in our soul, no enemy can defeat that if we wear the full armor of God. Amen God Bless
  • Linda Villani on Psalms 13 - 5 years ago
    Psalm 13 Addresses anxious believers who have been beat up by the enemy of their soul, just as the lamenting David does. His misery is repeated over and over and continually petitions God for deliverance. David trusts in God’s loyal loving kindness, His salvation and bountiful love and care but his anger and pain overrides the promises of deliverance that he knows will happen. (Arrogant anger.)
  • Scottt manuel on Psalms 13 - 6 years ago
    Good psalm
  • Rory Crutchfield on Psalms 13 - 6 years ago
    I know tribulations will come... Sometimes when we don't heat from GOD in the Time frame we desire, we can get impatient and sometimes rebellious. We must learn to understand that in our waiting there is cleansing. There is always deaper circumstances in our trials than those that are seen by the naked eye.. Amen
  • Rev. Belva Wallace on Psalms 13 - 6 years ago
    The verse this morning was just what I needed I love the psalms it always touches my heart when I read them.
  • Lilian on Psalms 13 - 6 years ago
    I have trusted in thy mercy my heart shall rejoice in thy salvation. Thank you Jesus for the blood you shed for us amen hallelujah
  • Mild Bill,saved by grace on Psalms 13 - 6 years ago
    Death is not a finality,but a separation.Every soul will be resurrected.Some to life,some to eternal condemnation.When resurrected,all will never have an absence of God in their thoughts.For some this is pleasing and causes singing,for others it will be an eternal burning torment.Thanks be to God alone,for his mercy and grace to forgive and save sinners,through the death of Jesus his son.Trust God
  • Terrence Charles on Psalms 13 - 6 years ago
    This psalm is great for situations you have no control over, so keep faith and never stop trusting🙌


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