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This is a fascinating thing. I heard a sermon one time saying the words spoken about "if someone sees the face of GOD they cannot live" he said "they cannot live, the same" Is this the question you're looking deeper into? Genesis 32:20,30, Exodus 33:11, Exodus 34:28-30,35,

It would be very interesting to do a study on the words. Exodus 3:6, Exodus 33:20,23, Numbers 6:25, Deuteronomy 5:1-5, Deuteronomy 31:17,18, Deuteronomy 32:20, Deuteronomy 34:10, Judges 6:22, 1Kings 13:6, 1Chronicles 16:11, 2Chronicles 7:14, 2Chronicles 30:9, Psalms 13:1, Psalms 17:5, Psalms 22:24, Psalms 105:4, Isaiah 54:8, Isaiah 59:2, Jeremiah 21:10, Ezekiel 20:35,

Perhaps it's the word "man" that the emphasise is. Romans 8:14, Galatians 4:6, Hebrews 12:7, John 1:12, Philippians 2:15, 1John 3:1,2 , 1John 4:15, How sad it is when a living father says "see his face no more" or turns his face.

Genesis 3:8-10, interestingly, in this translation it says they heard "the voice of the LORD" they "hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God"

What's amazing is: Genesis 4:16, it appears even though they were cast out of the garden GOD's presence was still with them.

Psalms 139, Job 4:15,

Hopefully this is helpful

1Timothy 5:8, please read 1Timothy 5, for context, it's not just talking about immediate family but providing for Aunts.

Titus 1:7, 1Corinthians 4:2, Luke 19, Luke 12, Matthew 25,

Matthew 27:35, John 19:24, Psalms 22:18, Mark 15:24, Luke 23:34, Joel 3:3, Obediah 1:11, Nahum 3:10, Esther 3:7-15, Esther 9:24,

Leviticus 16:8-10, Numbers 26:55,56, Numbers 33:54, Numbers 34:13, Jonah 1:7, Acts 1:26,

Proverbs 16:33, Proverbs 18:18, Luke 1:9,

Ben: Does Christ blood COVER only SOME or does it COVER ALL.

Psalms 22:27 And all the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

There are going to remember when they are resurrected back to their flesh and judged by Christ and his ELECT.

Isaiah 26:9 ....for when thy judgements are in the earth; the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

Christ judgements are not yet in the earth:

Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature (creation) waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of GOD.

Romans 8:21 For the creature (creation) ITSELF also SHALL BE DELIVERED into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth MY WORKS until the end, to him will I give power over the nation:

Revelation 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessel of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL THINGS SHALL BE SUBDUED UNTO HIM (at judgement), then shall the son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that GOD (SPIRIT, LIFE, TRUTH) may be ALL IN ALL.

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we believe in the living God, who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN (even those saved at judgement), especially those that believe (during the age of grace).

GBU as we come to the TRUTH of God's words.

Lynn, the grave awaits those that commit suicide, they will be brought back to their flesh at the second resurrection, judged, brought to truth, and given their place in the Kingdom of God.

Psalms 22:27 All the ends of the world SHALL REMEMBER and TURN unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship thee.

Acts 17:26 And hath made of ONE BLOOD all nations to DWELL on all the FACE OF THE EARTH, and hath DETERMINED the times before APPOINTED, and the BOUNDS of their habitation.

Christ give us eyes to see the TRUTH in your WORDS.

This is also in The Jerusalem Bible it is Daniel 3, it is called the Song of Azariah,

We are allowed to pray & repeat GOD's WORDs. Jesus repeated David's Psalms 22:1, on the cross as He lived out prophetic Words inside that chapter.

Hopefully that's helpful

Roy, Acts 18:28,

1st Paul the one given credit for writing book of Acts was not around Jesus CHRIST during the days before HIS Resurrection, Acts 8, Paul was actually opposed. That might be the past tense reference, if there was any reference to that being past tense at all.

2nd I read Acts 18:28, as a fact that Jesus was Who HE said he was, the same as: is who HE said HE is. In USA I've lived around many dialects of English = in the "deep south" Eastern coast the 1st would make perfect sense to most. English in the deeper South still has many phrases & words used in KJV like 'Breeches' However Michigan area the second way, may be understood better.

3rd Please read the entire Books of Matthew 1, Mark 1, Luke 1, John 1, starting with 1st chapters to see who Jesus CHRIST was & is.

4th maybe most important is the Old Testament points to Jesus being CHRIST all throughout. The same Jesus in the Books of the New Testament. For instance all throughout Psalms points to things Jesus did, & suffered, ' Prophetic fulfillment ' : Psalms 2:6-8, Psalms 8:2, Psalms 27:6, Psalms 16:10, Psalms 18:44, * Psalms 22:1,7,8,14,15,16,17,18,24,27,28,30,31,

Zechariah 13:6, Isaiah 53,

Hopefully that helps

Psalm 22 is a Psalm of King David & is also understood as a Messianic Psalm, i.e. prophetically looking ahead to Christ & His sufferings prior to & upon the Cross.

When we consider the Psalm, we see David's allusions to various animals, viz. the strong bulls of Bashan (v12); a ravening, roaring lion (vv13, 21); & dogs (vv16,20). All these animals appeared to David as representative of people (his enemies) & probably the evil spirit behind them, that sought to take his life. So the imagery given to us in 'dogs', is that of a pack of wild dogs with baring teeth, seeking to pierce him (v16) & maul & devour him (v20: by their ruthless power over man).

And "my soul" & "my darling" speaks about his enemies' focussed thrust against him, and it appeared to David, as directed only against him - to rob him not only of his life, but all that that life was purposed to accomplish for God's Purposes. He earnestly sought the Lord, the One Who gave him life, nurturing him & bringing him to this point of being Israel's king (vv9,10). Thus his cry for deliverance from evil men that they should not gain victory over his life & he would be a living testimony of God's Power & Goodness to his people (vv22 ff).

for dogs have compassed me;

the assembly of the wicked have

enclosed; me they pierced my hands and

my feet. verse 16 the dog here is referring

to the enemy of Gods people.

also chapter 22 is a prophecy of

Christ, psalm 35:17 the enemy referred

to as a lion.

What is the meaning of

The power of the dog

Habakkuk 3:4,

In other translation "Jerusalem Bible" "His brightness is like the day, rays flash from his hands, that is where his power lies hidden"

When I researched it: resemblance of the cross, injuries to the Messiah's hands, resurrection of Jesus, the scars remained. Prophecy? John 20:20, * John 20:24-31, *

Psalms 22:16

Psalms 22:1, Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34,

Mark 15:24-31, Matthew 27:35-42, Psalms 22, John 19:33-37, Luke 23:33-37, Luke 24:36-42,

Tony,

I just wanted to add to discussion, Proverbs 12:28, Proverbs 3:11-12,

Pray "FATHER GOD ALMIGHTY deliver me from all addiction, restrain me, sustain me, direct, me guide me, help me LORD."

I will & have prayed with you in agreement on this. I also pray for healing in every way. Matthew 18:18-20, John 14:12-15,

Psalms 22:24, Psalms 145:16-19,

Advice stop talking, texting, meeting & calling those who lead u in wrong directions, & habits. Flee!! Psalms 143:9,

Psalms 51:2,

Psalms 139, read this when you feel alone & hold tight to GOD & HIS promises, cry out to HIM. HE does deliver, HE does heal.

WHAT HAPPENS AT JUDGEMENT

Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, PROPHESIED of these, saying, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Jude 1:15 To execute judgement upon all, and to CONVINCE ALL that are ungodly among them of their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

What happens when Christ, through judgements, convinces them that they are ungodly:

Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess him as Lord.

Isaiah 26:9 ...for when thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

Psalms 22:27 And all the ends of the earth shall REMEMBER and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of nations shall worship before thee.

Jesus CAME TO SAVE SINNERS.

Brother Dam:

It's all about being in agreement with the scriptures.

There is plenty of the scriptures you agree with now, when you find those that you don't seem to be in full agreement with, ask Christ to cause you to believe.

Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only to BELIEVE IN HIM (Christ is all the words in our bible), but to also suffer (through suffering Christ LEARNED OBEDIENCE) for his sake.

Psalms 22:27 And all the ends of the earth shall REMEMBER (they can't remember in the grave, they remember when they are resurrected back to their bodies of flesh) and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

In the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, the rich man was in torment in the FLAME.

Psalms says Christ ministers are FLAMES of FIRE.

Obadiah says the house of Joseph is a FLAME.

The torment those in the resurrection suffer, is mental torment, not physical torment.

Put yourself in their place, you (rich man) have just been resurrected back to earthly flesh, and standing before you all the ELECT (Lazarus) and CHRIST in glorified bodies and you (rich man) in a body of flesh. It will be utter TORMENT (in that flame) because you will REMEMBER.

Brother Adam, you are right there are no CONTRADICTIONS in God's Word.

You believe God's word teaches HELL, yet:

Psalms 22:27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

Have any of God's prophecies not COME TO PASS.

The doctrine of HELL contradicts this prophecy. If the word Hell was misapplied in translation and the word GRAVE applied correctly, then you no longer have a contradiction.

Luke 23:29, Isaiah 54:1, these scriptures exist too. When other women say._..

Luke 1:25, 1 Samuel 1:6, women have cruelly mocked other women many times over this issue & others.

Remember GOD justifies Romans 8:33, Psalms 22:24, be encouraged sis

Proverbs 16:9, Romans 5:1, James 2:22-25,

However the root argument sometimes stem from situational issues of choice which people may be referring to Genesis 38:6-10, then continued reading Tamar was considered "more righteous" Genesis 38:26, pursuing offspring of her dead husbands lineage, which was significant either in justification, reward or preplanned destiny. Matthew 1:3, Genesis 38:29, she is written in the documentation of Jesus lineage. Hebrews 11,

Additional scripture

Act 17:28-29, Malachi 2:15, Isaiah 65:21-24, on their perspective

I hope this was encouraging & helpful

Sister GiGI, you are correct, doctrines are TEACHINGS, that man accepts as TRUE, but are those teachings TRUE. Man has TEACHING that CONTRADICT GOD'S WORD, thus those TEACHINGS are not TRUE. ( Revelation 12:9)

Man believes salvation is his choice and not God's choice, contradicting scriptures. Man TEACHES this.

John 15:16 You have not chosen me but I have chosen you, and ordained you ..... Man does not TEACH this.

1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that God sent the Son to be Saviour of the world. Man TEACHES the SON is going to fail saving the world because it's man's choice and not God's Choice. Man TEACHES this. ( Revelation 2:24)

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN (even those that don't believe in this AGE ( Romans 9:18-21), specially those that believe (in the AGE).

1 Timothy 4:11 These things (saviour of all men) COMMAND AND TEACH. Many are called (to teach this) FEW are chosen.

Man TEACHES that those who don't CHOOSE Christ are going to HELL. Man TEACHES this. These TEACHINGS contradict all the above scriptures. ( Revelation 12:9).

Thy KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE.

Psalms 22:27 ALL the ENDS of the WORLD shall remember and TURN unto the LORD: and ALL the kindreds of the nation shall WORSHIP before thee.

Revelation 5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that setteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

Man not only does man NOT teach this, they don't BELIEVE this is TRUE. ( Revelation 12:9)

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things have been subdued unto him. then shall the son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be ALL IN ALL.

Man does not TEACH this nor even believe it ( Revelation 12:9).

James 1:2-4

2 Corinthians 4:17

Hebrews 11:25

James 5:10

Isaiah 48:10

Psalms 22:24

James 1:27

Hopefully these are helpful

I need help father

Help from Evangelists, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Everyone and everything has an appointed time. When God wants your friend to bow to him and confess that he is Lord, your friend WILL DO IT.

Paul is our example: KILLING God's ELECT; UNTIL his appointed time, and within seconds Paul is surrendering to Christ.

The age we are now in, is the age Christ is choosing an ELECT group of people to be PRIEST AND JUDGES. After the second resurrection, and in the ages to come, the rest of mankind will bow and worship God.

Psalms 22:27 And ALL THE ENDS OF THE WORLD shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and ALL the kindreds of the nations shall WORSHIP BEFORE THEE.

Psalms 22:30 A SEED shall serve him; and it shall be accounted to the Lord as a generation (the AGE we are in NOW).

Psalms 22:31 And they (THE SEED) shall come (with Christ at the second resurrection), and declare his righteousness unto a people that SHALL BE BORN, that he has done this.

1 John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father SENT the Son to be SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD.

By definition you CANNOT be the Saviour of the World; without saving the world.

Revelation 3:9 Behold I WILL MAKE THEM of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews (circumcised in the heart), and ARE NOT, but do LIE, I WILL MAKE THEM come and WORSHIP before thy (THE SEEDS) feet, and to KNOW that I have loved you (THE SEED).

Brother David, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

God divides eternity into different AGES. God CAUSES certain things to happen in those AGES.

In the Previous AGE; the AGE of THE LAW and Prophets. God caused THE ONES HE APPOINTED to leave a written record of the AGE TO FOLLOW.

It was written that in the AGE TO COME God would APPOINT (call out) a FEW to be PRIEST in his KINGDOM.

This is what we see now. Most want be called now; BUT there are more AGES to come. Christ and his priest will judge the world and the world will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

God has a PLAN:

ALL WILL OBEY AND WORSHIP GOD.

Isaiah 32:1 Behold, a king shall rule in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgement.

Psalms 94:15 But judgement shall TURN INTO RIGHTEOUSNESS ....

Proverbs 16:6 By MERCY and TRUTH iniquity is PURGED ...

Psalms 85:10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.

Psalms 22:29 And they that be fat upon the earth shall eat and worship (first resurrection): and they that go down to the dust (second resurrection) SHALL BOW BEFORE HIM: and none can keep alive his own soul.

Psalms 22:30 A seed (priest) shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation (age).

Psalms 22:31 They (priest) shall come (at the second resurrection), and shall declare his righteousness to a people (at the second resurrection) that SHALL BE BORN (AGAIN) that he hath done this.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth MY WORKS unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Revelation 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessel of a potter shall they be broken to shivers, even as I received of my Father.

Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

This is what the parable of Lazarus and the rich man is about.

Brother Adam, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Most Christians believe that at the judgement of the world the wicked will be cast into LITERAL FIRE for all ETERNITY.

If this is true then it make those scriptures that say ALL will OBEY and WORSHIP GOD a LIE; therefore the ones that believe this are calling God a LIAR.

Revelation 13:8 And ALL that dwell upon the earth shall WORSHIP HIM, whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN in the book of life of the lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 15:4 ....for ALL NATIONS shall come and WORSHIP before THEE ....

Revelation 3:9 ...I WILL MAKE THEM to come and WORSHIP before thy feet.....

Psalms 22:27 ALL the ends of the world shall REMEMBER and TURN (repent) unto the LORD, and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass .....shall ALL flesh come to WORSHIP before me..

You can't have an ETERNAL LITERAL FIRE torturing God's creation and a SAVIOUR of man exist together: be careful which one you chose.

Most believe hell wins: FEW find the way!

Powerful. Blessed Be God, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. Amen.

Jeremiah 20:17

Because he slew me not from the womb; or that my mother might have been my grave, and her womb to be always great with me.

Job 31:15

Did not he that made me in the womb make him? and did not one fashion us in the womb?

Psalms 22:10

I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly.

Psalms 22:9

But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts.

Psalms 127:3

Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.

Psalms 58:3

The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

Psalms 139:13

For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

Luke 1:42

And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. (Speaking of Jesus)

Isaiah 49:1

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels (uterus) of my mother hath he made mention of my name.

Ecclesiastes 11:5

As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who makes all.

Jeremiah 1:5

Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Matthew 19:12

For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs by men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive.

Hope you find it in here. Mishael

Brother Richard, may the SPIRIT grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

YES I do believe that in the ages to come ALL WILL BE IN CHRIST.

1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL THINGS shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject to him who put ALL THINGS under him, THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL.

A good portion of the scriptures is prophecy; as is:

Psalms 22:26 The meek shall eat (my flesh and drink my blood; which is the word of God) and be satisfied: they shall praise the Lord that seek(s) him (we praise him because he seeks us; we don't seek him), your heart shall live forever (eternal life being resurrected with him; Revelation 20:5-6).

Psalms 22:27 ALL the ENDS OF THE WORLD SHALL REMEMBER AND TURN UNTO THE LORD: and ALL the kindreds of the nations SHALL WORSHIP BEFORE THEE.

Psalms 22:28 For the kingdom is the LORD'S (accomplished at his death and resurrection; Revelation 11:15,): and he is the governor among the nations.

Psalms 22:29 And they (firstborn, children of HIS resurrection) that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they (the ones not raised with him at HIS resurrection) that go down to the dust (awaiting the second resurrection) SHALL BOW BEFORE HIM: and NONE can keep alive his own soul.

Psalms 22:30 A seed (firstborn) shall serve him; it (seed or the firstborn) shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation (the age of the firstborn or the age of the church).

Psalms 22:31 They (Firstborn, Elect, Saints) shall come (in the next ages), and shall declare HIS righteousness unto a people (those raised in the second resurrection) THAT SHALL BE BORN, that HE hath done this.

The shadow in the old testament is the feast of weeks (feast of firstfruits) and the feast of the ingathering (final harvest).

Hi Joe.

King David,

Psalms 22:18. They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.

Hello Skip,

As I'll say this reply is for Sacha as well. Seeing those differences on Psalms 22:16 led me to check that verse on the site I use to go over the Holy Scriptures from other translations.

The site I refer to has the Masoretic Text which is said to be the authoritative Hebrew text of the 24 books of the Tanakh(OT) in Judaism. Using that site I copied and pasted that psalm on google translate to English. This is what came up:

Psalms 22:16 Because dog soaps are a testament to the kippon grazing kari by my hands and feet.

Which I cannot fully understand as a couple of those words I do not know.

Using the verse analysis makes more sense as the last four Hebrew words are H5362, H3738, H3027 then H7272. Which would be like "strike with violence, to dig bore or open, hands, feet." I see where the "lion" comes from as that is the Hebrew word H738 which is only in the KJV translation for "pierced" which makes no sense. As that word is not in the Masoretic Text for that Psalm.

Very interesting though. As some other verses I translated were almost exact to the KJV. Some much more simple etc.

Always good to study the Scriptures.

It's not the translation of the KJV bible that lacks merit or credibility, but only people that misquote and mistranslate.

Matthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

Revelation 22:18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:"

Revelation 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Matthew 5:18 "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Psalms 22:1 "(To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"

Matthew 27:46 "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

Mark 15:34 "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"

Jesus's recites Psalm 22 to remind the Priesthood that they didn't recognize him as God, even as they stood beside him, even though it was written in the Old Testament. Read the entire Psalm and see if you would?

Psalms 22:1 (To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? 2O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. 3But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel. 4Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver

S Spencer, the Spirit has graced, and is gracing, you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding (of two to make one new man). You quoted Joel 3:2, do you think the war in the valley of Jehoshaphat is the spiritual warfare spoken of by Paul, or are you of the opinion it is natural. The Spirit has led me to believe it spiritual war. I know by previous comments you understand that the elect will judge the world. What has the Spirit revealed to you about this judgement. The Spirit has revealed to me that THE BOOKS ( Revelation 20:12) or symbolic of the ones judging. The Spirit has put a great hunger and thirst in me to study and understand the prophecies. You understand that the Spirit is assembling a nation of priest and judges. The Spirit has revealed to me that this nation of priest will judge and bring to truth all those raised after these elect have been gathered. Isaiah 66:14-24, 1 Timothy 4:10, Psalms 22:27 Paul taught for two years the kingdom of heaven out of the law and prophets. Acts 28:23-31, Luke 16:31 I love reading the comments of those the SPIRIT IS WORKING in to bring ALL to HIS TRUTH.

Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the UNITY of the FAITH, and of THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SON OF GOD, unto a perfect man (of two to make one new man), unto the measure of the STATURE AND FULNESS OF CHRIST.

You answered Your own question within your question.