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Donna, there are examples in the Bible of those who suicided. One is in 1 Samuel 31:4, when King Saul wanted his armour-bearer to kill him as he was wounded in the battle. He refused, so Saul "fell upon his own sword" & his armour-bearer seeing this & the implications that would have upon him, also did likewise. There is also Samson ( Judges 16:26-30) who with his great strength from the Lord, pulled down the pillars of the building that he was prisoner in, thus killing himself & many Philistines that were gathered there. And then we have Judas Iscariot ( Matthew 27:3-5) who hanged himself after he realized his sin in betraying Jesus.

So even though we have instances of suicide, I don't believe the Bible ever talks specifically about it as being sin. Why we say that suicide is sin, is because by definition, it is self-murder & wilful murder in any form is sin. I know that one who contemplates suicide does so under very trying mental, emotional & physical conditions - a good friend of mine having taken his own life because of severe multiple sclerosis. I tried my best to encourage him & give him hope, but the pain & loss of movement was too much & made existence meaningless. Every avenue should be resorted to so that such a desperate person may receive help & counsel & most cities have a Lifeline phone number to assist.

What is written in God's word about suicide

Thank you

Summary on psalm 23:5

No. I learn something new every time I read the bible. Just keep reading again and again. Pray for understanding before you read and I think that will help.

There are four types of love (in Greek) given in the Bible which is more useful than the single word we have in English.

a. Agape: this is the highest form of love that one can give or receive; it implies an everlasting, sacrificial love. 1 John 3:16, 4:8, 1 Corinthians 13:4-8 are few examples.

b. Storge: the love that shows familial deep care & concern between members of a family. Obviously, agape can also be experienced in families, but storge is that general love that family care & devotion applies to. Storge is not a word seen in Scripture, though its opposite is seen, e.g. Romans 1:31 "astorgous" & 2 Timothy 3:3.

c. Phileo: the love, warmth & affinity shared by close friends. John 11:36, Romans 12:10.

d. Eros: a romantic, sexual love, made especially lovely within marriage. This word is not used in Scripture, though implied in the reading of Song of Solomon & warnings of unrestrained love (porneia) going beyond the bounds of morality.

where is agape located in the bible? does agape means love? where are the differ types of love located in the bible.?

In the Old Testament, when you see 'angel ( Angel) of the Lord', it is the preincarnate Christ, Jesus Himself. Unless otherwise named (as Gabriel in the book of Daniel).

When you are afraid, anxious, or uncertain, remember "The Lord is my Shepherd ".

In the KJV Bible, in Psalm 23, there is differentiation between "I shall" and "I will." Is there anything about either the Hebrew or English usage four centuries ago that hints at the reason for this differentiation?

Either He dose it or not" He is still God.

Thanks Chris,

Your answer was spot on.

I can see you spend a lot of time reading and understanding what God's word is reviling to you.

I often tell my friends: Its not remembering the chapter and verse but what the chapter and verse places in your heart/soul.

Thanks again for your answer.

Dale

Dale, the Bible Trivia might be a fun thing to do & a test of your Bible knowledge, but please don't let it be a yardstick to determine your knowing God & His Will for your life. I think most of us would fail somewhere along the line as no one can be expected to know the content of all the Bible Books, chapters & verses. Some questions will be easy for you - others may find them difficult. I feel that it is a nice inclusion but rather, to drive us back into God's Word to learn more about Him, the world we live in & the needy people around us.

Knowing God's Will is a vast subject that can't be dealt with here. There are books on this subject, the one by J.I. Packer has been popular & useful. However, the only real way is to spend quality time reading the Bible slowly & carefully, talking to God about what you read & what burdens your heart. It is the work of the Holy Spirit to both teach you & to apply the Truths to your heart & life. As well, from my own experience, patience is another key. We live in a world that "wants it & wants it now" - the Spirit's Word & Timing for us is not regulated by our moods & our time clock. To correctly wait for help & direction, we must spend time understanding God's already revealed Will for us in His Word & to "Keep in step with the Spirit": surprisingly, another of Packer's publications!

The Angel that wrestled with Jacob was an angel. Not Jesus. The statement itself tells you it was a angel. Not a man and not Jesus.

No. the bible teach us not to forget symbol together in church which get us strength. A daily prays and reading the bible keep our mind stay on God. The church is the heart of man and that what take you to Heaven.

In taking the bible trivia and only getting between 60% correct most of the time shows I lack in my understanding of the bible.

I am a bit worried that I am not fully understanding of God will and following.

Should I be?

This verse keeps my children and I going throughout our day to day lives.

Psalms 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life and I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever and ever Amen.

It's like a conversation I had with my mother 6 months before she died. She never read her Bible. I just asked her one day, "aren't you even curious about your Savior you are going to be living with forever? And the wonders of heaven where you'll be living?

Next day I see her at the table reading her Bible. Read it for over an hour. Became a part of her routine. She asked questions about when she'd see her parents and others who had died. If tell her about what Jesus likes. They need our participation to get them started. I read Psalms to her.

I'll see her again. :)

Bible reading & Church attendance are not criteria for entrance to Heaven: only your faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the Cross as your sin bearer & the Recipient of the penalty you (and I) rightly deserved. And through your acknowledgement of this & subsequent repentance of sins, the Spirit of God enters your life to give you a re-birth experience & a holiness & acceptability to God.

In my understanding, after such an experience & encounter with a Holy, Merciful God, it behoves us to want to know Him and love Him more. And the chief ways of doing so is by attending to His Word, fellowship with the saints, & enjoying prayerful intimacy with Him.

However, there are some who believe that "now I'm saved, I can do what I like". However, salvation is proven by a heart & mind change & remembering that "your body is (now) the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." ( 1 Cor 6:19,20). Every blessing Don, as you consider this matter & the great cost that was made to redeem your spirit back to a loving God.

John 3:16

Mathew 7:22-27

Mathew 25:31-46

However there is blessing in reading HIS Word

2 Timothy 2:15

Psalm 1:1-3

Psalm 119:105

I'm from the USA, here we can freely buy, read, distribute & discuss the Bible, however In other countries I've heard testified people suffer death, imprisonment & horrible challenges just to take part in any of those. Some were trying to get 1 book into hands of churches overseas. I guess my question to you, is: to have the privilege to read or not read a collection of books written for benefit, life, guidance, wisdom (that others risk death to read) why not?

do, you have to read the bible and attend church services to go to heaven

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me - God will bestow them upon me. This is the "result" of what is stated in the previous verses. The effect of God's merciful dealings with him had been to lead his mind to the assurance that God would always be his shepherd and friend; that He would never leave him to want.

All the days of my life - Through all its changes; in every variety of situation; until I reach its close. Life indeed would end, and he does not venture to conjecture when that would be; but as long as life should continue, he felt confidently assured that everything needful for him would be bestowed upon him. The language is the utterance of a heart overflowing with joy and gratitude in the recollection of the past, and full of glad anticipation (as derived from the experience of the past) in regard to the future.And I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever - Margin, as in Hebrew: "to length of days." The expression, I think, does not refer to eternity or to heaven, but it is parallel with the former expression "All the days of my life;" that is, he would dwell in the house of the Lord as long as he lived - with the idea added here, which was not in the former member of the sentence, that his life would be long, or that he hoped and anticipated that he would live long on the earth. The phrase used here, "I will dwell in the house of the Lord," is one that is several times employed in the Psalms as indicative of the wish of the psalmist. Thus, in Psalm 27:4, "One thing have I desired of the Lord, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life." Psalm 26:8, "lord, I have loved the habitation of thy house, and the place where thine honor dwelleth." Psalm 65:4, "blessed is the man whom thou choosest, and causest to approach unto thee, that he may dwell in thy courts." Psalm 84:4, "blessed are they that dwell in thy house."

Psalm 23 is my best Chapter also. "I shall not want" says you to me that he will supply u with what u need every day.

The Lord Is My Shepherd and I shall not want ever. Amen.

Vr.4 in my life 80yrs. my "god" in heaven has never let me down!! in fact always there to lift me up!!aman praise his holy name!!

"Jesus Lover of My Soul"

Charles Wesley

Jesus Lover of my soul, Let me to thy bosom fly,

While the nearer waters roll, While the tempest still is high.

Hide me, O my Savior hide, Till the storms of life is past;

Safe into the haven guide, O receive my soul at last.

Other refuge have I none, Hangs my helpless soul on Thee;

Leave, oh, leave me not alone, Still support and comfort me.

All my trust on Thee is stayed, All my help from Thee I bring;

Cover my defenseless head With the shadow of thy wing.

Thou, O Christ, art all I want; More than all in Thee I find;

Raise the fallen, cheer the faint, Heal the sick, and lead the blind.

Just and holy is Thy name, I am all unrighteousness;

False and full of sin, I am, Thou art full of truth and grace.

Plenteous grace with Thee is found, Grace to pardon all my sin;

Let the healing streams abound; Make and keep me pure within.

Thou of life the fountain art, Freely let me take of Thee;

Spring Thou up within my heart, Rise to all eternity.

Daniel 12:12

"Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days."

The Anti-Church for a period of time sacrificed true saints until she became sterile. It now has been around 450 years that the True Church was able to leave the wilderness and preach and teach (by example) the Gospel throughout the whole world.

I figured it out. They need to renew their hearts to get rid of the evil in their hearts to stop all the wars etc... do you know where in the Bible a Prayer May Be For That ???

The Lord IS my Shepherd. Though I do walk through the valley of the shadow of death His word comforts and guides me to live in His paths. Though I've sinned He stores my soul and I live a righteous life because He leads me in paths of righteousness to honor Him. Therefore He blesses me abundantly so I can in return be a blessing to the Lord's people in a New Testament Missionary Baptist church where our pastor faithfully watches for our souls and guides us to watch faithfully for the Lord's soon return. Very blessed we are at Kailua Missionary Baptist church at Kalama in Kailua, Hawaii. Amen to Keoki's sermon today about watching out for false prophets. I have that too. I'm standing anchored against him.

Psalms 23 is the power an might coming down from heaven for such a time as this, God said he would never leave us neither for sake us!! That's what psalms 23 means to me the Blood of Jesus all over me I love reading psalms. Father Son & the Holy spirit.