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Blessed be the day!! Marlilyn T., I love your comment. I read the 23rd psalm everyday with every breathe in my body. May God continue to bless you and your love ones, especially during this pandemic and we all will heal especially families who lost a love one.

So thankful for the Lord being my Shepherd. He will not allow any bad things to happen to me. He is

always with me. Even allowing "goodness and mercy" to follow me. All of the days of my life these

Angels are with me. Happy that each of God's children have their own two (2) angles to be before and

after them where-so ever they go. I have prayed this Psalm with me through many surgeries and life's

happenings. God never , never has left me alone.

But unfortunately to many see the good shepherd as a magic wand... Instead of having faith trust and believe in His word which is the truth they want everything to happen immediately. God's time is always the best time. Louise

Psalm 23:1 - a proclaimation of King David that the Lord is His Shephered who take good care of him and his needs. Therefore nothing in his need that the Lord will not provide.

So then, if the Lord is also our Shephered, we will lack nothing. We are to rest assured that our Shephered will also keep His sheeps that no one can snatch us out from Him. What more shall we ask for when in Christ Jesus we will have the assurance of His promised and He who promised is faithful and true.

Psalm 23:1 - a proclaimation of King David that the Lord is His Shephered who take good care of him and his needs. Therefore nothing in his need that the Lord will not provide.

So then, if the Lord is also our Shephered, we will lack nothing. We are to rest assured that our Shephered will also keep His sheeps that no one can snatch us out from Him. What more shall we ask for when in Christ Jesus we will have the assurance of His promised and He who promised if faithful and true.

Is the word sovereign or sovereignty in the Bible?

The Bible doesn't address that and I think most people know that. The interesting thing about this question is why is it being asked, and does the answer change anything? First, no one knows the answer. Second, even if you knew the answer it shouldn't change anything and if it did, then there's a big problem. Let's say you're invited to go to be in live in eternity with your loved ones in absolute paradise with total unconditional love beyond your comprehension and a level of fun that is high beyond your wildest imagination. Imagine your best day on earth and multiply that by a billion. Then let's say while you're here on earth someone shares an opinion that dogs won't be in heaven, will that then change whether you believe and follow Jesus Christ? Would someone seriously be willing to throw their eternity and salvation away based on someone's unsubstantiated opinion on something? What if your love of your pet was a 10/10 on earth, but in heaven it's considered 1/1,000,000 level of love and that something a million times greater was prepared just for you. Would that be rational? These are just questions. If someone follows Jesus as a Christian they will find the answer out for themselves after this life.

William, as much as we would like to think that our loving faithful pets will also be with us in Heaven, the understanding of God's creative Work, His Designs & Plans & Scripture itself, suggests that just won't happen.

Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 tells us that even though mankind & animals both return to dust from whence they came, it is only humans whose spirit is preserved that return to God Who gave it (Eccl 12:7). It is true, that all creatures have been given life (breath = spirit) from God, but to mankind, God has given a spirit that transcends anything given to any other creature.

Here are some other verses that lend support to this:

a. Gen 1:27: we're specially made, created in God's Image unlike animals.

b. 1 Thes 5:23: man is comprised of spirit, soul & body, unlike animals, & all three parts of the human makeup will be required by God at their specific times.

c. Mt 6:23: only man can commune with his Creator & has the ability to know, worship & serve Him.

d. Gen 3:4-6: humans have the power of using free will, discernment & choice (all attributes of God) whereas animals exist by instinct without the power to reason, calculate, effectively communicate, create, culturally develop, etc.

e. Rom 3:23: only mankind had the ability to sin against his Creator (re: his the special spirit given him). And that life of gross violation to God's Holy Standards & Character, prompted Him to pursue man to the point of offering up of Himself for man's redemption & restoration.

Animals simply don't fall into the same category as God's specific & special Work of creating man: we were created to love Him, serve Him, to enjoy His blessings & to one day return to Him. Why? Because we were specially created for Him to one day join the Heavenly throng in everlasting worship. Unfortunately, animals (& our beloved pets) don't become a part of this in-gathering after their death as they weren't created to this end - Heaven is not filled with beasts but holy beings.

William Kirkland, I certainly hope there are dogs in heaven. Your question roused my curiosity and I Googled "verses about whether pets go to heaven" after remembering about the verse about God's care of a sparrow.

I found 1Corinthians 15:39 and Romans 8:19 on to be wonderful reads. So yes, they go to heaven.

Additionally, I have wondered whether when we die and leave here do we keep our earthly memories (good and bad) but I feel according to Isaiah 65:16-17 "...: because the former troubles are forgotten and because they are hid from mine eyes." "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, or come into mind."

I also believe that I have read a scripture where we remember "our own" so we will see our own family and pets in heaven but no sorrow will be associated with them just joy.

I hope this helps you. It did me.

Keep reading the Word, it is full of treasures and guidance. I've read it through 3 times, now on my fourth and each time the treasures and guidance increase. Every word means something.

Also, people's comments and Matthew Henry's commentaries inspire me.

God Morning:

Take the test in Psalms 15 and let us each see where we stand with the Lord. If our individual standing does not meet the lipmus test found therein, proceed to Colossians 3(1-5) and follow those instructions and pray and retake the test daily. ( Psalms 77:13) Loving God and your neighbor is the lipmus test,and the test is an open book test,which merely says: prove yourself by dividing the word of God,hear a little and there a little,and always remember Psalms 23:1....

Jesus is Lord and Testator.

Shalom

For someone who is curious about the bible, just maybe god is drawing you. for no one comes to the jesus except he is drawn of the father. so, this is curiosity that will not kill the cat, so to speak. therefore, i suggest that you start in the book of matthew and read a chapter daily, meditate or think about what has been said/written. starting in matthew and following on thru the books after, you will learn more about jesus, who he is and what he has done, ect. i will make prayers for you because i have hope for you.

Psalms 23:1 comment

1;The Lord is my shepherd; there are two types of shepherds, (hireling and a good shepherd)

A hireling is the shepherd that takes care of the sheep only for money yet the good shepherd does it whole hearted, Jesus Christ is the good shepherd who takes good care of the sheep (believers in Christ both Jews and Gentiles) A hireling are pastors that are preaching for money and without money they don't preach.

He restoreth my Soul, when the Soul grows sorrowful he revives it, when it is sinful he santifies it, when it is weak he strengthens it. It is to the honour of our great God that we should be a Holy people, walking in the narrow way of righteousness. If we be so led and guided we must not fail to adore our heavenly God's care.

Are there dogs in Heaven?

SC, I actually see your lack of understanding of the Scriptures which of course translates to heretical messages. You use the Scriptures, I can see that, but then you pervert it through ignorance. E.g. the Trinity. You assume that the Godhead is Male, as in human male. God is Spirit, without gender, but is referred to as "He, Him", because that is how He has revealed Himself to man. And the same with the Holy Spirit. Christ is the Word of God (without gender), made Man (when you say that "no Mother was anywhere to be found"). Have you forgotten about Mary (Joseph's wife) who was implanted with Holy Seed so as to bring forth a male child, Jesus. This was the only way for God to enter the world.

That "women have been treated as dirt in some countries", is not because of the Godhead being referred in the masculine gender, but because of sin in some males who want to suppress & subjugate women instead of giving them full equality that God had ordained for each of us.

Jesus, the Everlasting Father, is taken from Isa 9:6, where the future special Child is shown to have full equality in the Godhead. And this is not to imply that somehow Jesus has taken over the role of God the Father, but that this Child was the Father's Word made human. In other words, God, the Everlasting Father, came down to man to give His Life for us & He did this in the sending of His Word, Jesus.

Gen 1:26 doesn't speak at all about genders. It is the Godhead at work in Creation (which includes the Word, Col 1:16) & His Spirit ( Gen 1:2) - none are of human gender.

SC has been rebuked in the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

She or he is reprobate.

I rebuke you, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

This is Truth and spiritual light.

Jesus Christ is the only living sacrifice acceptable to God The Father, to save mankind from their sins. God

The all male Trinity is a lie. It is a "false truth", and a doctrine of Satan that have been taught in churches for thousands of years as truth.

Howerer, All males cannot produce children, spiritually ir physically. If the world is to look up to God in heaven to see the perfect order of a family, and they are lied to that God is just The Father with a male Son, and a male Holy Spirit, and the all male union produces children, with no Mother anywhere to be found, then that's a major reason why woman have been treated like dirt in some countries, and there is so much disorder in the world today.

Jesus Christ is the son of God The Father, and if Jesus is also our everlasting Father, as the lying scribes say; that means that you and me, The True children of God have the same Father, and that makes Jesus my brother.

My brother can never be my father.

This is truth, not heresy!

The lying pen of the scribes changed some of the scriptures into lies?

"How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made He it, the lying pen of the scribes is in vain." Jeremiah 8:8

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Genesis 1:1

"In the beginning was The Word{Jesus Christ}, and The Word{Jesus Christ} was with God The Father, and The Word was God." John 1:1

"26 And God{God The Father and The Word,Jesus Christ, God The Wife, God The Mother} said, now, WE make man in our image, after our likeness, and WE give them dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

27 "So God created man in Their own image, in the image of God, they created man, male and female God created them." Genesis 1:26,27

Mishael TO SC on Heresy - in Reply on Psalms 23:1

thanks Mishael you are correct SC is a heretic who rejects plain bible teaching to create their own heresy.

Jesus is not mother god.

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Maybe you start off with this theory of Divine (human) relationships & then conform Scripture to fit into your belief. This is dangerous practice that leads only to corrupting your mind with lies & deceptions, taking away from the intent by God's Spirit to give us clear understanding of Who God is & His great Design for the redemption of mankind. To suggest that God is multi-gender, with mixed parent-hood, is beyond the sensible understanding of the Word. One could then believe & teach that Jesus was actually a hen, not a Man, since Mt 23:37 alludes to this!! Hence, my suggestion is to either understand the Scriptures as given or provide correct Scriptures to prove your beliefs. And I doubt that you would find anything in God's Word.

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SC, thank you for your comment. You quote Gen 1:26, 27. What has this Scripture got to do with "The perfect order of the spiritual family"? In the normal reading of that passage, it speaks of the Creator God wanting to create man & woman in His Image. How do we get a 'family relationship' from these verses?

Galatians 4:27 which is a direct quotation from Isaiah 54:1. What is the prophecy here, which Paul is speaking about? He speaks of the two sons of Abraham, Ishmael (from Hagar the bondwoman) & Isaac (from Sarai (Sarah), the freewoman of Promise). The reference here was against the Judaizers amongst them who wanted to bring Christians back under the Law to be saved (represented by Hagar), whereas Christians were freed from the Law which could only bring death, represented by Sarah & Isaac, the child of Promise.

So "Rejoice thou barren (Sarah), cry with joy, for the desolate (Sarah) has many more children that she (Hagar) who was the slave-wife (to Abraham)". This prophecy is clearly of the children of Promise, i.e. of those who are saved by grace through Jesus Christ & not by the works of the Law (or even fused with Grace). Here is a clear portion from Paul to encourage the Galatians believers about their new standing before God through His Son. It has nothing to do with "More proof God is Husband and Wife, Father and Mother, MelquisedecLisbet". How do you develop such a connection when the Scripture is clear as to the prophecy & its implications?

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SC, you are a HERECTIC.

From a Greek word signifying (1) a choice, (2) the opinion" "chosen, and (3) the sect holding the opinion. In the Acts of the" "Apostles (5:17; 15:5; 24:5, 14; 26:5) it denotes a sect, without" "reference to its character. Elsewhere, however, in the New" Testament it has a different meaning attached to it. Paul ranks heresies with crimes and seditions ( Gal. 5:20). This word also denotes divisions or schisms in the church ( 1 Cor. 11:19). In " Titus 3:10 a "heretical person" is one who follows his own" "self-willed "questions," and who is to be avoided. Heresies thus" came to signify self-chosen doctrines not emanating from God ( 2 Pet. 2:1).

Improper understanding of heresy will condemn you to hell.

Heresy is not the same as Error. It is a Choice to abandon widely accepted teaching on an essential doctrine (such as the Trinity of God) and embrace one's view (yours being that the Holy Spirit is FEMALE / the Mother of the Godhead.

Heresy is to preach ANOTHER gospel, as Paul stated in Galatians 1:9.

You are deceived most likely by some militant female teaching or cult of them.

If you google CULTS, even google knows it probably involves religion. I speak for myself: you don't need to come here seeking converts. Twitter is available for heretics. I'm sure there are Facebook groups that are heretic.

I hope you rethink what's best for you? The Antichrist will make you offer up your hand or your forehead for the MARK of the BEAST. Then you will be forced to bow your knee to WORSHIP him as GOD. You won't have choices anymore! If you take that Mark, you will still go to hell. If you kill yourself, you'll go to hell.

The only option that offers Life Eternally, is renouncing heretical beliefs and receiving Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord.

For informative: APOSTASY is leaving and renouncing religion; renouncing Jesus as Savior.

Jesus Christ is The Light, The Perfect Order.

Human relationships did not start first!

Everything God creates has perfect order. The perfect order of the spiritual family is, God The Father and God The Mother(The Holy Spirit, The Wisdom, The Word made flesh(Jesus Christ), then The Children. Genesis 1:26,27

Whoever is truly humble, yet offended by this perfect order of family, needs to REPENT, turn from their wicked (twisted) ways of thinking, and allow GOD, to heal the land in their minds first, then physical land around them.

""If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

2 Chronicles 7:14

Please Note:

Covid-19 is a pestilence.

" pestilence walks in "darkness", Psalms 91:6.

This "darkness" is, "spiritual darkness, spiritual disorder'. It is the rejection of "The Spiritual Light" of Genesis 1:26,27, that God are our Spiritual Parents, God The Father and God The Mother, The Holy Spirit.

Everyone who rejects this perfect order of God The Father and God The Mother who produce Spiritual Children, are spiritually asleep, walking in the spiritual darkness of their carnal minds{the mind is the heart of the spirit}. The spiritual darkness, spirtual disorder in their minds reflects out into the physical-realm as all kinds of evil, including the Covid-19 pestilence.

If you really want God's protection, then honor Them spiritually in your minds first, as Father and Mother, Your Spiritual Parents.

"Jerusalem(Jesus Christ) who is above is free. She is The Mother of us all."

Galations 4:26

Human relationships did not start first!

The Spiritual Relationship of God The Husband and God The Wife existed way before man was created. Everything God creates has perfect order. The perfect order of the spiritual family is, Husband and Wife, Father and Mother, then The Children. Genesis 1:26,27

Whoever is truly humble, yet offended by this perfect order of family, needs to REPENT, turn from their wicked (twisted) ways of thinking, and allow GOD, to heal the land in their minds first, then physical land around them.

""If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

2 Chronicles 7:14

More proof God is Husband and Wife, Father and Mother, MelquisedecLisbet,

"For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not, break forth and cry, thou that travailest not, for the desolate{the bond woman} hath many more children than She{God The Mother, The Holy Spirit, The Wisdom} which hath an Husband{God The Father}.

Galatians 4:27

THIS IS THE CORNERSTONE, the religions builders of the faith rejected throughout the centuries.

"But Jerusalem who is above is free, She is The Mother of us all."

Galatians 4:26

"O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey The Truth."

Galations 3:1

SC. Have you really thought through what you are saying here? You're trying to force a human relationship (i.e. Father, Mother, Child) into a Divine, Spiritual existence. You just can't do it - there is no gender in Heaven. As well, asserting that the North & South poles equate to male & female: where does this idea come from? Then, are East & West hermaphrodite in gender? Then the question: why even bother to quote the Bible to substantiate your beliefs? Wouldn't it better to base these deductions from the sources where you learned them from? The Bible is clear in every details & gives support to its Truths from other Scriptures. By using God's Word to promote ideas far removed from biblical revelation is to not only abuse Scripture, but also bring the Deity down to a devilish way of interpretation.

I think, that unless you repent of these nonsensical ideas & hang onto the beauty of Scripture, then you should just resort to your own literature & visions, without attempting to falsify God's Word. This might then make your ideas more understandable or appreciated to those wavering souls wishing to listen to them.

I was demon possessed at one time: an astrologer. I knew God had all the answers to life, but I couldn't hear Him. I turned to stars & planets to explain why my life was so painful. When you serve Satan, he's not satisfied with just deceiving you. He's got you and he'll keep you busy till you miss out on the Rapture ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

Does weird stuff go on in your home? That would be the demons.

I didn't have a normal Baptist type of salvation experience. I was interpreting a horoscope for a friend. God just peeled back the room like a page in a book and let me see, Revelation 1:14-16; parts of it:

" His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes as a flame of fire! And his voice as the sound of many waters (the scariest part). And out of his mouth went a sharp two edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shining." I was blinded for a second and my ears were hearing my friends voice: IT seems to have some truth, but the Bible says it is wrong! She made a hasty exit out of the house. I was still hearing 2 Timothy 3:5, over and over.

I went to the bookcase to read my Bible I had never used. WHY was it wrong? I read every verse on stars, planets, astrology and the Death Penalty for doing it. I closed the Bible and laid my head on it, saying, I deserve to die. Then the floor became a vision of hell.

I crouched on top of the chair, my eyes seeing gross and unclean to the 10th power.

I'm trying to look for an escape! I become aware of an invisible Hand, held out to me from the ceiling. I stood up to take the Hand. Then I fell on the floor, but the vision was gone! I know that is when I was delivered from the demons in me. It was VIOLENT and I lost consciousness. Next morning, Everything looked the same but more peaceful. I saw the astrology books & immediately wanted them gone! I rid my house of all idols that day. I told my friend what happened. Saved on Yom Kippur '85. You get saved too, now.

I have no clue what her deal is...Satanic?

I rebuked her.

Admin this SC is teaching Jesus is female why is this approved?

"The truth is, Jesus is our Eternal Mother, not our everlasting Father."

"The Woman Christ is the only sacrifice acceptable to God the Father. Let's see who that perfect offering is:"

Hey Anthony,a lot of Bible scholars suggest you start in 1st John. John MacArthur suggest you read it for 30 days,then go to the Book of John.I hope this helps.

I am not taking about all the false doctrine out there about female gods.Don't focus first on them by default. It a trick of the devil to deceive.

I am taking about our creator, God. Genesis 1:26,27.

That is the perfect order of a family. Father(Male), Mother(Female), then their Children.

All of creation shows that order: Magnetic fields North (male)+South(female), plants(male+female), animals(male+female), mankind(male+female)

Do not be deceive!

The Book of Proverbs clearly tells us that, The Spirit of Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding is Female.The Holy Spirit is The Spirit of Wisdom, Knowledge and Understanding. That's normal, a good thing,! Stop being offended by the nature of God, accept it and get over it!