Discuss Psalms 82

  • Oseas - 6 months ago
    Our Lord JESUS said: Mat.13:30-> In the time of harvest I will say to the reapers,Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    Do ye not know that the saints shall Judge the world?and if the world shall be Judged by you,are ye unworthy to Judge the smallest matters?Know ye not that we shall Judge angels?(angels of the Churches) 1Corinthians 6:2-3.

    By the way, JESUS said more: John 4:36-37:->36 He that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together. 37 And herein is that saying true,One soweth(JESUS sowed),and another reapeth.

    And Daniel prophesied:Dan.7:22&27: ->22Judgment was (will be)given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom( Revelation 11:15-18. Take a look.). 27 And the Kingdom and dominion,and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose Kingdom is an everlasting Kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

    Daniel 2:44-47

    44And in the days of these kings shall the GOD of heaven set up a Kingdom( Revelation 11:15-18), which shall never be destroyed: and the Kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

    45Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver,and the gold;the great GOD hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter:and the dream is certain,and the interpretation thereof sure.

    46Then the king Nebuchadnezzar fell upon his face...Of a truth it is, that your GOD is a GOD of gods( Psalms 82:1-2&6-8 and John 10:34-36 combined with Isaiah 41:22-23),and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets,seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.

    The Word is GOD,self-executing, understand?
  • Mary Jay - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Sister Gigi:

    I have never said we are gods;

    I QUOTED what GOD said:

    Psalms 82:6

    Isaiah 41:23

    John 10:34

    The scriptures are Christ's WORDS, not mine.

    I'm sorry you don't believe what Christ says.

    But Christ SAID, men would believe the words of other men, before they would believe his words, and his words WILL NOT return unto him VOID, but will accomplish that which I please.

    Isaiah 55:11

    God Bless YOU!
  • Mary Jay - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Sister GiGi:

    Do you believe:

    Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the judgement written, this honour hath all his saints.

    1 Corinthians 6:2 ... the saints shall judge the world ......

    This is GOD'S words not mine.

    Psalms 82:6 I (God) have said, Ye are gods, children of the most high,

    Psalms 82:7 But ye shall DIE like men (sinful flesh, on the cross of Christ) and fall like one of the princes (of this world)

    Psalms 82:6 ARISE (by the resurrection), O god, JUDGE the EARTH, for thou shall inherit the nations.

    Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh and keeps MY WORKS, until the end, to him will I give power over the nations

    Do you believe these words.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 12 months ago
    Lee the Follower:

    2 Peter 1:20 No PROPHECY of the scripture is (in and of itself it's) OWN private interpretation.

    2 Corinthians 13:1 ...in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established .....

    Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, ye shall surely not DIE:

    Genesis 3:5 FOR GOD DOTH KNOW that in the day you thereof, then your EYES SHALL BE OPENED, and ye shall be as gods, KNOWING GOOD and EVIL.

    This is ALL PROPHECY.

    Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God SAID, Behold, the man HAS BECOME AS ONE OF US, to KNOW good and evil.....

    The FRUIT was KNOWLEDGE of good and evil, the KNOWLEDGE of gods.

    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not WRITTEN in your LAW, ye are gods

    John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the WORD the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken.

    Psalms 82:6

    Deuteronomy 10:17 your God is a God of gods, and Lord of Lords ....

    Psalms 136:6 Give thanks unto the God of gods, for his mercy endureth for ever.

    Now, Eve was a prophecy of the coming bride of Christ by HIS RESURRECTION, and what happened she was resurrected with her husband to never DIE.

    The gift of God is eternal life.

    God can even use Satan to speak prophecy, what did Satan say, Ye shall never DIE.

    Luke 20:36 Neither can THEY DIE ANYMORE, Adam (Christ) took of the fruit and did eat with his wife and Christ and his wife (creation) DIED, and the spirit of the Father RAISED them as ONE FLESH), for they are equal unto the angels, and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN of the RESURRECTION.

    Philippians 2:5 Let this MIND BE IN YOU, which also was in Christ Jesus:

    Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, though it not robbery to be equal with God.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 12 months ago
    Brother S Spencer:

    You say you believe, but is HALF BELIEF enough to get you into the Kingdom of God or does God require TOTAL BELIEF of his WORKS.

    You say you believe in the works of the resurrection.

    But is belief in half the WORKS of Christ resurrection enough or does it takes total belief to OBTAIN the Kingdom of God.

    I don't think you know what the kingdom of God is, YET.

    What were the WORKS of Christ's resurrection:

    OUR sins of the flesh were forgiven and covered by the Lambs blood.

    DEATH was conquered, and IMMORTALITY, the gift of God, established, and CHRIST ONLY hath IMMORTALITY ( 1 Timothy 6:16).

    Christ ONLY arose, and we as JOINT HEIRS.

    Here is where you STOP BELIEVING.

    Mark 10:8 And THEY twain shall be ONE flesh: so then THEY are NO MORE twain, but ONE FLESH.

    So whose flesh are you, Christ flesh,

    Or is Christ, your flesh.

    The word gives the answer;

    1 Corinthians 15:50 ....flesh and blood cannot INHERIT the kingdom of GOD .....

    You INHERIT the Kingdom of God, it is not a place, it is a person.

    Genesis 2:23 This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: for SHE, Christ wife, shall be called WOMAN, because SHE is taken out of MAN ( Revelation 12).

    1 Corinthians 15:53 ..... this mortal shall PUT on IMMORTALITY .......

    1 Timothy 6:16 ..... Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY .....

    John 17:22 ..... that THEY may be ONE, as WE are ONE .....

    You believe Christ and his Father are ONE.

    Yet, you DON'T BELIEVE, you we made ONE with them by the resurrection of Christ.

    These are not my words that you don't believe.

    John 10:34 JESUS SAID, is it not WRITTEN in your LAW, I said, ye are gods ...... Psalms 82:6 .......

    Isaiah 55:11 My WORD WILL NOT return unto me VOID .....but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the THING whereto I sent it.

    Isaiah 28:21 ....that he may do HIS WORK, his strange WORK, and BRING TO PASS HIS ACT, his strange act.

    Can you enter the Kingdom of God, ONLY BELIEVING half of God's WORD.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Chris

    I think you need to reestudy more deeply because the Law was not given by GOD to Israel to give life to them, GOD knew of this, of course. Neither to lead them to death, this was not the point of GOD. The Law was established to put a moral discipline among the people which GOD had freed from Pharaoh's yoke.

    The GOD's people developed and grown up exceedingly in Egypt, and in the way of desert they were living as brute beasts, and the idolatry of Egypt was in their heart. So to walk among them, GOD established the Law: The 1st: Thou shalt have no other gods before me; no image, no bow down to them; not take my name in vain; keep the sabbath day;Honour thy father and thy mother:not kill; not commit adultery;not steal;no false witness, and not covet.

    No, God's Standards, showed not the nature of sin by the Law. Sin would be to disobey GOD, this is correct. Nor GOD's Standards showed the condition of the human heart, the Law would never do that. Actually, GOD laid down the moral Law and just required obedience, that's it. The sin would be to disobey GOD.

    You say they were inability to fully meet the Law's demands. No, it' was not about inability to obey Law's demands, even Paul said that "the Gentiles, which have not the Law, do by nature the things contained in the Law, these, having not the law"; So Israel, that was the body of Moses, with the presence of GOD among them could perfectly to LITERALLY obey the Law. The battle was between GOD X the Devil in having the dominion of the people.

    About the Bible's letter it"is NOT a stumbling block;it is the very(written)Word of God,given by the Spirit & enabling that Word to be applied to the believer", BUT only if it as long as it be interpreted by the Spirit, otherwise, if interpreted by the letter, it is a stumbling block, yes, and it kills exactly as the Devil did- Genesis 3:1- and they died by the letter and die to this day, including the gods- Psalms 82:6-7 combined with Isaiah 41:23.Take a look.Very deep
  • Goodgraft - In Reply on Psalms 82 - 1 year ago
    "So I'd say "watchers" fell before Eden"

    I see no reason to dispute that.

    Whenever it was that they rebelled against The Most High, it seems that they are still on the job of deceiving the nations.

    Please come quickly Lord Jesus! And soon!
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Psalms 82 - 1 year ago
    There is no doubt that God has allowed fallen angels to rule over nations as the book of Daniel makes clear regarding Persia and Greece specifically; with the angel Michael.

    My question specifically would be WHEN these angels fell. The story of the watchers is in extrabiblical literature. I would tend more to think that they were part of the spiritual order and society that existed sometime AFTER Lucifer fell and took the angels with him; which clearly happened BEFORE Adam fell after the serpent incident in Genesis. The period between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 where the ORIGINAL creation occurred and then in verse 2 it was void and in a chaotic state probably was when there was an original flood or disaster in the earth because of the trade with violence; etc mentioned in Ezekiel 28.

    Satan himself has been given the role as a usurper; temporarily squatting as it were on territory that originally was to be under God's total rule and delegated to man in the garden to take care of. Apparently it is in the Divine plan to allow him and his henchmen to control nations and regions concurrently and to ultimately bring about the Messiah and end in Armageddon where the appointed time and judgment occurs.

    As for reasoning here it is likely to test men; to see if they will follow their own judgments and imaginations and continue therefore in spiritual blindness or believe through a supernatural move of the Spirit the Gospel truth which is revealed only to those predetermined in His plan ( Deut 29:29). Overcoming therefore is the flesh; world and the Devil; all three are conquered through Christ's atonement. Some things in the interim before Christ comes back are delegated to the church in this time period and to those of faith previous to that and in the Tribulation. Prayer is a major key in holding back evil and the Lord temporarily holds back judgment until the fullness of times; as Romans states regarding the Gentiles.

    So I'd say "watchers" fell before Eden
  • Goodgraft on Psalms 82 - 1 year ago
    When the Lord divided the nations at the time of the Tower of Babel ( Deuteronomy 32:8). And claimed (the as yet future) Israel as His own ( Deuteronomy 32:9). He assigned other Elohim, members of the Divine Council, (congregation of the mighty), ie created intelligences, (angels) as stewards over the other nations.

    Those lesser gods, (because there is only ONE Most High God), did not fulfill their purpose in protecting and preserving the knowledge of the one true God and leading men back to Himself. But rebelled instead, by leading the people of the nations into idolatry and the worship of themselves. Thereby forcing God to judge and condemn them to die like men.

    It is those Elohim that God is speaking to in Psalm 82. Not human judges or rulers.

    That is my opinion which is based upon the teachings of the late and highly respected biblical scholar Dr. Michael S Heiser.

    "Dr. Heiser attained an MA in Ancient History from the University of Pennsylvania, and an MA and PhD in the Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, where he minored in Classical studies. Dr. Heiser received his Bachelor's degree from Bob Jones University and also attended Bible college for three years."
  • Tunney on Psalms 82 - 1 year ago
    Hi, I desire to learn more, so please give your scriptural authority for the following statement you made.

    "To send these two female spirits that were with him from the beginning..."

    GOD, the LORD JESUS CHRIST to give us all discernment to rightly divide HIS word. 2 Timothy 2:15

    Thank you.

    July 2, 2023
  • Donna Stephens - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother SSpencer:

    It's God; the WORD, that says we will be gods.

    Psalms 82:6 I (the WORD) have said, Ye are gods the children of the most high.

    Are these God's words.

    Just because you don't believe those words doesn't make those words not true.

    John 17:22 And the glory that thou gavest me I have given them, that they may be ONE, as we are ONE.

    You believe the Father and son are ONE, and they both are Gods, YET you denied that WE being ONE with the Father and son makes us a god also.

    I don't understand how you can say these scripture mean something else, they are very plain and straight forward.

    God Bless you.
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Gigi:

    I will address all four verses: IT'S PROPHECY

    Psalms 82:5 They know not neither do they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

    Psalms 82:6 I have said ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    Psalms 82:7 But ye shall DIE like men, and fall like of of the princes.

    Psalms 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; for thou shall inherit the nations.

    Verse 5 is the condition the world finds itself in, so Christ prophesies what he will do to correct the condition of the world, this is what he was telling the Pharisees, he was quoting these verses in Psalms 82:5-8.

    Verse 7, he said he will come and DIE like a man, and fall like one of the princes, be crucified.

    verse 8 ARISE (from the grave), O Lord, and JUDGE the earth, and INHERIT ALL NATION, the kingdoms of this world became the KINGDOM of GOD when he was resurrected.

    verse 6 and the children of the resurrection became gods also, to judge the world with Christ.

    Obadiah 1:21 And saviours shall COME (by resurrection) upon Mount Zion to JUDGE the Mount of Esau ....

    You can not know how to judge the world with being the EXACTNESS of CHRIST, this is the WORK of the CROSS, to accomplish the creation of SONS of GOD.

    There was only ONE body that was RESURRECTED, that Body was CHRIST, we are NOW the BODY of CHRIST; a union of wedlock, the husband and wife MADE ONE.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 1 year ago
    GiGi:

    Psalms is the words of Christ: 2 Samuel 23:1-2

    Psalms 82:6 I (Christ) have SAID, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    Jesus himself QUOTED his OWN prophecy.

    John 10:35 If HE (the spirit of prophecy) CALLED them (the children of resurrection) gods, unto whom the WORD OF GOD CAME, and the scripture CAN NOT be BROKEN.

    Jesus is telling the Pharisees, they read and study the scriptures, but have no knowledge of their TRUE MEANING, very little has changed TODAY.

    John 1:5 And the light shineth into darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not.

    You say Psalms 82:6 means gods of this world, antichrist, sons of predition

    Let's see what happens to this scripture when we apply it to mean as you define it.

    I (Christ) have SAID, ye are gods (antichrist, sons of perdition, Satan, gods of this world), THE CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH.

    Let's apply your definition to some other scriptures.

    Deuteronomy 10:7 For the Lord your God is a God of gods (sons of perdition, gods of this world, antichrist)

    Joshua 22:22 The Lord God of gods (gods of this world, sons of perdition, antichrist), the Lord God of gods ...

    I hope you rethink what you are saying about GOD'S WORDS.

    Could it possibly be your not rightly dividing God's Word, maybe Paul was talking about something completely opposite to what Christ was Prophesying.

    My rebuttal is ALSO in LOVE.

    Does the church you attend preach the KINGDOM of God, or is it like most churches and preaches heaven and hell?

    God Bless YOU!
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thanks for sharing the scripture.

    Do you believe this is a metaphor or do you actually believe you were physically crucified with Christ around 2,000 years ago.

    John 15:5 says Jesus is the vine and "ye are the branches." Do you believe you are actually just a branch? And do you believe Jesus is literally a vine and nothing else?

    If those are the metaphors they obviously are, why do you assume ye are gods is not a metaphor in Psalms 82:6? Isn't that cherry picking something to suit your chosen narrative? In the same sentence it also says ye are children, so if this was honestly applied you would then be a literal child? Otherwise its just cherry picking the gods metaphor which could be considered intellectually dishonest. Are Gods children? Do you really believe there's more than one God, despite what so many other scriptures say?

    Even the same author of Psalms only 4 chapters later says there's only one God in Psalm 86:10 "thou art God alone". Do you believe this verse just as much the other one you like? How about all the other verses that clearly say there's only one God like 1 Corinthians 8:6, 2 Samuel 7:22, Deuteronomy 4:39, 1 Chronicles 17:20. Why would someone ignore all these but only focus on believing a metaphor in half of one verse is not one instead?

    Shouldn't we be using discernment and reading the Bible with an open heart to what God is teaching us rather than the other way around? Just like kings and rulers are called lords (lowercase to show context), gods does not mean God. Anyone who cherry picks and claims they are a god is really deceived and this comes from satan. Satan loves deceiving people in this way and it has his signature all over it. God bless.
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply - 1 year ago
    GiGi:

    I seldom ever say anything without quoting scripture.

    I am more than happy to have you show where that scripture is not true, but use scripture not what man says.

    You don't believe Psalms 82:6 ye are Gods ..

    You believe Christ is God; ONE with the Father, and the Father is God, one with Christ.

    John 17:21 That they all may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they may be ONE even as we are ONE IN US ....

    Colossians 1:27 ....Christ in you ....

    Why if the father and son are ONE and they are God, would not you believe we are God if we are the same ONE IN THEM.

    Why don't you believe these scriptures, because they don't fit the teaching of MAN, that's why.

    Whose right: MAN or God's WORD?

    Rebut with scripture.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Ruby Lea Read - 1 year ago
    UNDERSTANDING THE POWER OF THE RESURRECTION

    Psalms 17:15 As for ME (Christ), I will behold thy (the Father and God of Christ) face: I (Christ) will be satisfied, when I (Christ) awake (am resurrected, by the Father's SPIRIT), with THY (the Father's) likeness.

    Romans 6:5 For if were be planted TOGETHER (you and Christ) in the likeness of his (Christ) DEATH; we shall also be the LIKENESS of HIS RESURRECTION.

    Genesis 5:1 In that DAY (the day of the LORD; ALL MEN died with Christ and all MEN were resurrected with Christ) that God created man ( BY the resurrection), in the LIKENESS of GOD created he them.

    Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth THY (the Father of ALL ( Ephesians 4:6) SPIRIT, THEY (all men) are CREATED; thou renewest the face of the earth.

    Ezekiel 1:5 And out if the MIDST thereof (Christ) there came forth four LIVING CREATIONS, And this was their appearance, they (the new creation) had the appearance of A MAN (Christ).

    Ezekiel 10:10 And as for the for their appearances (the LIVING CREATIONS), they four (the new creation) had ONE LIKENESS, as a WHEEL (Christ) in the MIDST of a WHEEL (Christ).

    Colossians 1:27 ..this MYSTERY (of his resurrection) ... CHRIST IN YOU ..

    Romans 8:28 For whom he (the Father of ALL) did foreknow, He (the Father) did predistinate (by the resurrection of Christ) to be conformed to the IMAGE (God) of his son, that he (Christ) might be the FIRSTBORN among many (cloned by his resurrection) BRETHREN.

    Psalms 82:6 For I (the Father) have said, YE (my new creation, by your brother's resurrection) ARE GODS, the children of the most high.

    John 10:35 If he (our Father, the WORD) called them (the new creation, by resurrection) GODS, unto WHOM the word of GOD CAME ( Hebrews 9:28), the scripture CANNOT be BROKEN.

    Luke 20:36 Neither can THEY (the new creation) DIED ANYMORE (you died with Christ on the cross): for they are EQUAL to the ANGELS ( Isaiah 63:9...and the ANGEL of HIS (Christ in YOU) PRESENCE SAVED THEM.

    Do YOU BELIEVE God's WORD?
  • Ruby Lea Read - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 10 - 1 year ago
    Virgil Birkenfeld:

    PROPHECY:

    Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit WITHIN YOU, and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep MY JUDGEMENTS, and DO THEM.

    You DIED with Christ, YOU WERE RAISED with Christ, this is the POWER OF THE RESURRECTION.

    You are now the BODY of Christ, everything you say, will to do, or do is CAUSED by the spirit of TRUTH and LIFE WITHIN YOU.

    Very FEW BELIEVE God's word.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God (spirit) which WORKETH IN YOU, both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery .....Christ in you .....

    Matthew 7:14 ...narrow is THE WAY .....FEW there be that FIND IT ....

    John 14:6 ....I AM THE WAY .......

    1 Corinthians 12:27 ...Ye are the BODY OF CHRIST .....

    FEW BELIEVE God's word.

    Psalms 82:6 I (God himself) HAVE SAID, ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    Your the dwelling place of GOD, your are doing the very will of God 24/7.

    The question is? Do you believe God's word?

    God Bless YOU, as our Father brings us to TRUTH.
  • U4YAH - In Reply on Psalms 82 - 1 year ago
    Very good. You have found out that this is the judgment of those who followed a different WAY that is not the way of the most high of all gods.

    Yes. The context reveals the intent and the identity of whom this judgment is about.

    Before reading this any further, I request that anyone reading this would ask in the name of Jahshua for his God, Jah, To send these two female spirits that were with him from the beginning fo righteous discernment; to try the spirits for a revelation of truth, by praying for knowledge.

    [ "Lack of knowledge is killing my people." (Hosea) Call Wisdom your sister and Understanding your kinswoman [ " I was his daily delight in the beginning" ])

    Context with meditation is the key In this Psalm for knowledge.

    God/Jah is there with the Angels and he is judging them.

    In Hebrew the Angels are defined as: "mighty ones": in scripture Jah is the mighty of David. & etc...

    These gods/angels/mighty have become Apostate/Rouge against Jah.

    Unlike the faithful Angels/mighty ones, they became worshiped by the people called Heathens/Pagans/Gentiles.

    We are also clued in that these are Angels by a verse later on that these eternal beings shall die the same as man, who lost his eternal life by the eating of the forbidden fruit in his garden of Paradise on Earth, to the"East of" Eden.

    They are worshiped by men and have another WAY/Religion which pleases their god/Angel. Their doctrines are in error of the WAY of Jah.

    In his judgment of them, Jah presents evidence of his WAY, THAT IS NOT part of their judgment & doctrines of their way;

    To defend the poor and fatherless.

    Do justice to the afflicted and needy.

    (To) rid out of the hand of the wicked.

    They walk in darkness because their way is in error causing the entire society(world) of the Earth's foundation of the way of Jah to go a different direction than Jah intended for mankind, that will cause Jah to judge the Earth.

    Jah is speaking to the Angels, their father Jah created them, they are his children
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 82 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 82 "Ye are gods" (v. 6).

    There is a notion these days that states that the Bible call us "little gods" and this Psalm is their evidence for that assumption.

    The scriptures use this term to describe those judges or teachers of the law who were learned in the Torah but as this chapter points out judged for hypocricy.

    Verse 3 shows a theme which is echoed in 1 Tim. 5 starting in verse 3; as well as James 1:27 which also refers to widows and orphans as to the definition of "true religion."

    Verse 6 seems to suggest that these are all children of God; of the Most High. However; the context of most of this Psalm seems to suggest partiality to the wicked and therefore going against God's ordinances. This was a type of Pharasitical behavior that characterized those who would not escape the damnation of hell as quoted in Matthew 23:33. In one sense; of course all those in Israel of noble lineage could follow their family tree to prove that they were sons of Abraham. But again; not all were true children ( Romans 9:7). In one sense we were all created in God's image; more precisely now in the image of Adam. We were all put in the book of the living ( Psalm 69:28). That is different from the Book of Life; clearly. Perhaps the meaning remains ambiguous; the nation of Israel were chosen as a whole but only a remnant truly believed.

    The Psalm is generally a call for men to be wise judges; but also ends with God being implored to act (verse 8). In any event every knee will bow someday to God and to His Christ (as quoted in Philippians AND Romans but also from God being represented in Isaiah 45:23).

    God also allows wicked judgments to accomplish His purposes in the end; refining His people for instance.
  • S Spencer - 1 year ago
    More on this heresy (Man becoming God)

    Part 1.

    There are different religions extant which teach that Godhood is a graduated experience (God was once man) and that man can actually attain the level of Godhood. The number of religions which teach this is increasing as more polytheistic, Eastern religions are being introduced to America. Joseph Smith (founder of Mormonism) taught the following:

    "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens...I say, if you were to see him to-day, you would see him like a man in form -- like yourselves, in all the person, image, and very form as a man....it is necessary that we should understand the character and being of God, and how he came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and will take away and do away the veil, so that you may see....and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3).

    Verses used to teach man can become God. The apostle Peter wrote of being "partakers of the divine nature" ( 2 Pet. 1: 4). A careful study of the text reveals the apostle is teaching that we are to acquire traits of God, such as "godliness," "virtue,", etc. (vs. 5-11). Indeed, we are to be Godlike and partake of the divine nature in this sense. Jesus used the word god in an accommodative sense in John 10: 34, 35. "God," as used in John 10 and Psalms 82: 6, is applied to superior people, rulers. Jesus, however, is not teaching that these rulers had become God as God is God.

    See Part 2.
  • PROPHECY - 2 years ago
    Sister Janice:

    Do you understand what it means to produce after their own kind?

    God said let us make man in our image.

    God is Spirit, if we are (Re)created in his image, we also become Spirit (God, in a glorified body, just like Christ)

    Psalms 82:6 For I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    Psalms 104:30 Thou sendeth forth thy Spirit, they are created, thou renewest the face of the earth.

    John 3:6 ... that which is born of Spirit (God) is Spirit (God).

    John 17:21 That they all may be one, as thou Father, art in me, and I IN THEM ....

    Colossians 1:2 ...this mystery ....Christ IN YOU .....

    Romans 8:29 ....predestinate to be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....

    Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus:

    Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    You must be born again: understand what awaits you when you leave this body of flesh.

    1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light ....

    1 Corinthians 15:53 ...this mortal shall PUT ON immortality (Christ only hath immortality, we put on Christ).

    1 Corinthians 15:28 ....that God may be ALL in ALL.

    Ephesians 4:4 ....One Spirit (eternal life)......One Body (creation, that inherited eternal life)

    God bless you.
  • PROPHECY - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Lori:

    Do you understand what it means to produce after their own kind?

    God said let us make man in our image.

    God is Spirit, if we are (Re)created in his image, we also become Spirit (God, in a glorified body, just like Christ)

    Psalms 82:6 For I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    John 3:6 ... that which is born of Spirit (God) is Spirit (God).

    John 17:21 That they all may be one, as thou Father, art in me, and I IN THEM ....

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ....Christ IN YOU .....

    Romans 8:29 ....predestinate to be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....

    Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus:

    Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    You must be born again: do you understand what awaits us when we leave this body of flesh.

    1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light ....

    1 Corinthians 15:53 ...this mortal shall PUT ON immortality (Christ only hath immortality, we put on Christ).

    God bless you.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Wes gave a wise answer on Christmas. Exodus 23:8, Deuteronomy 16:19, Ecclesiastes 7:7, may The HOLY Spirit teach us. John 14:26

    I love to celebrate Christmas, I really enjoy the lights, the focus on our Savior. The generosity in the season. Christmas is a time of year, people remember more their fellow man, needs & wants of others. Christmas time reminds us of the joys of giving & putting smiles on others faces, teaching by love & kindnesses. Surprising a person with anonymous unexpected gifts, giving hope to people in desperation, food, clothing, volunteering, etc. warms their hearts, body & soul & sometimes gives them hope for a better ' tomorrow '. Christmas is the time of year people are more willing to receive from a Christian.....

    We as Believers have an open door at Christmas unlike any other time of the year, to show the World who Jesus is, who the Church is.

    When we remember those most "forgotten by others" showing them, they are not forgotten by GOD, it's amazing how even those around them are affected.

    Deuteronomy 15:7, Job 5:16, Proverbs 19:4, Psalms 69:33, Proverbs 14:21, 2Corinthians 9:9, Psalms 68:10, Galatians 2:10, Romans 15:26, Psalms 40:17, Proverbs 22:2, Psalms 41:1, Luke 14:13, Psalms 74:21, Proverbs 29:7, Proverbs 28:27, Psalms 112:9, Psalms 82:3, Daniel 4:27, Proverbs 21:13, Proverbs 31:10,20, context Proverbs 31, Proverbs 19:17, Proverbs 19:7, Luke 4:18, Matthew 11:5, Mark 10:21,

    Proverbs 19:6, Esther 9:22, James 1:27,

    This Christmas season we really have a moment to help comfort, our nations with love, giving hope through the WORD, to poor in spirit & helping heal wounds. There is much we can give this year, for those in need. I pray GOD lead us even now, to start the giving season early. Romans 6:23, 2Corinthians 1:4, Proverbs 15:23,

    Psalms 31:24, Ecclesiastes 3:1,
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thanks Alex. I agree with parts of your comment, but if your belief is that Jesus mass produces gods like a factory equal to the one and only God, then no, that is not what I believe or is what the Bible says. This may not be your belief at all, but it is of others I've noticed on this forum so I'll explain...

    Gen 26:4 is regarding the seed and lineage from Abraham. It's talking about people, not gods. He's giving countries to people, not gods, for example.

    If the comment is referring to 'gods' as in Psalms 82:6, Acts 7:40, notice it uses lower case 'g'. The word God is not used in the same manner as the one true God uppercase, but plural lowercase, which indicates a metaphor for His followers having characteristics of His authority. Psalm 82:1 demonstrates the difference.

    If believers can be metaphorically considered 'gods,' how much more is the One whom God has chosen and sent ( John 10:34-36)?

    Before believers start running around assuming they're deities from these few select verses (exactly what satan wants), the scripture must also be balanced with the entire context of other scripture in God's Word, such as:

    Rom 13:1-4 - calls followers the "minister of God", that all power comes from God, but all are subject to God's "higher powers".

    John 17:3

    James 4:7

    1 Peter 5:6

    Romans 13:1

    Romans 12:1-2

    etc.

    God bless
  • PROPHECY - In Reply on Zechariah 13 - 2 years ago
    Dere:

    Salvation is so YOU will never die; but are GIVEN eternal life.

    1 John 5:11 And this is the record, God hath GIVEN to us eternal LIFE, and THAT LIFE is his SON.

    YOU DIED with Christ on the cross.

    YOU AROSE, a new creation, the LIFE of Christ IN YOU: you are the body of Christ.

    1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) ONLY hath IMMORTALITY, dwelling in the light ....

    1 Corinthians 15:53 .....and this mortal (you) SHALL PUT ON IMMORTALITY .....Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY.

    1 Corinthians 15:54 .....Death is swallowed up in victory ......

    Colossians 1:27 .....this MYSTERY .....Christ in YOU .....

    1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the BODY of Christ ....

    Psalms 82:6 I have said, YOU are gods, the children of the most high.

    This is the GOOD NEWS of the gospel.

    God bless you!
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Revelation 3 - 2 years ago
    Dave,

    I'm not sure if your question was about GOD or man. I will try my best to answer it. Ironically " ambiguous " meaning double meaning._._

    I think that GOD's WORD the Bible is clear, when we study, & pray for wisdom. James 1:5,

    1st GOD gave people dominion: Genesis 1:26,27,28, = power, dominion ect. Within 2nd Generation & continued; 1st crime: Genesis 4:6-9, & Genesis 4:23, dominion with disregard for others, even anothers very life. Genesis 6:5, Exodus 1:8,13,16,22, even disregard for life of children

    Even then though GOD doesn't disregard HE repayed. Exodus 12:29, Exodus 13:15, notice the whole chapter of Exodus 12, points to John 3:15,16,17, Again people with dominion & power disregarding life of innocent: Luke 22:1,2,7,20,54,63,64, continued; Luke 23:1,2,15,21,33,34,

    Also: they killed their own children, Leviticus 18:21, Leviticus 20:1-8, that GOD had destroyed nations for that sin! 1Kings 11:7, 2Kings 23:10,

    Jeremiah 32:35, ( how? ) it's unimaginable even to GOD ALMIGHTY ! Jeremiah 7:31, Jeremiah 19:5, 2Chronicles 33:9, 1Kings 11:1-12, Deuteronomy 6:14, Deuteronomy 7:1-8, why? Was it because they destroyed the children, had disregard for innocent lives of their own offspring? Images of GOD

    Psalms 82:6, in context Psalms 82,

    GOD will Judge: Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 18:5,6,10,14, Matthew 19:14, Mark 9:42, Luke 17:2, 2Peter 2:7-9, Psalms 9:7,

    If your question is regarding "us" "believers" Luke 12:32, Revelation 21,

    There will be suffering here on Earth but promises to those who endure, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Revelation 10, 2Timothy 2:3, Revelation 6:9-11,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • PROPHECY - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Brother Luke:

    Acts 1:9 ....and he was taken up; and a CLOUD received him (Christ the GLORIFIED BODY out of their sight;

    INTO MAN: his BODY).

    Christ was taken into (NEW) heaven: MAN the BODY of CHRIST.

    The CLOUD: the Glory and Presence of God ABIDING in, and on, God's temple.

    Exodus 40:38 For the CLOUD of the Lord was upon the tabernacle (temple of God) by day, and FIRE (Hebrew 12:29) by night .....

    2 Corinthians 6:16 ....for ye are the temple of the LIVING GOD ......

    Colossians 1:27 ....this MYSTERY .....Christ in you .... HIS BODY .....HIS TEMPLE .....HIS LIFE ....HIS TRUTH...

    Romans 8:29 .... to be CONFORMED (by the NEW BIRTH) to the IMAGE OF CHRIST ....

    2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the eyes of them WHICH BELIEVE NOT, lest the light of the GLORIOUS GOSPEL, should shine unto them.

    Psalms 82:6 I (the word) have SAID; ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, IS IT NOT WRITTEN in your law, Ye are gods?

    John 10:35 If he called them gods, TO WHOM the WORD of God CAME, the scripture CANNOT be broken.

    Luke 9:23 .... If any man will come after me (the second coming of Christ: IN YOU) let him will DENY HIMSELF and take up his cross (first death) and follow ME (I AM the resurrection).

    Ephesians 4:4 ...ONE Spirit (the Father) ....ONE Body (Man) ......

    Christ the firstborn among many BRETHREN (the image of Christ).

    God Bless you (the body Christ).
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 2 years ago
    Proverbs 19:17,

    Exodus 22:21-27, Exodus 23:1-12, Deuteronomy 24:12-15, Psalms 14:6, Matthew 25:31-46, Psalms 41:1, Psalms 82:3,4, Psalms 112:9, Proverbs 14:31, Proverbs 21:13, Matthew 19:21, Mark 10:21, Luke 14:13,14, Luke 18:22, 2Corinthians 9:9,

    Proverbs 13:7,

    Hopefully helpful
  • PROPHECY - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen, "Grae":

    The Holy Spirit has given you great insight to his word.

    Our knowledge of God never ceases to grow as we spend time in his word.

    1 Corinthians 2:9 ...eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither hath entered into the heart of man, the things God hath prepare for them that love him.

    Job 38:7 When the MORNING STARS .....sang together ....

    Revelation 22:16 ...I am .....the bright and MORNING STAR .....

    Revelation 2:28 and I will give him the MORNING STAR ....

    Psalms 82: ....ye are gods, the children of the most high .....

    John 17:22 And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given them, that they may be one, as we are one.

    God Bless YOU, his body!
  • PROPHECY - In Reply on Proverbs 1 - 2 years ago
    Sister Amanda:

    The purpose of it all, is to bring God's creation to TRUTH.

    Creation is DECEIVED.

    Sinful flesh (man) DIED ON THE CROSS; a NEW CREATION (Christ in you) arose.

    1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ ....

    Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (Christ in you) that worketh both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ....Christ IN YOU .....

    John 17:23 I in THEM, and THOU in ME, that they may be PERFECT (Christ is the only one perfect) in one .....

    Psalms 82:6 I have said, ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    Philippians 1:29 For UNTO YOU it is GIVEN in the BEHALF of Christ, not only to BELIEVE on HIM (the word), but also to suffer for his sake.

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature WAITETH for the MANIFESTATION of the Sons of God.

    Why is creation WAITING?

    Obadiah 1:21 And saviours (God's SONS, Christ and his brothers) shall come on mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau, and the kingdom SHALL BE the LORD'S.

    Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the JUDGEMENT written, this HONOUR hath all his saints.

    Romans 8:21 For the creature itself SHALL BE DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption (death and the grave) into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things have been subdued unto him, then shall the son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that GOD may be ALL in ALL.

    Billions of people; dead and in the grave, are AWAITING the arrival of Christ and his brothers at the resurrection of the dead: to be brought to TRUTH.

    Proverbs 16:6 By MERCY and TRUTH iniquity is purged .....

    BELIEF will judge UNBELIEF.

    God Bless YOU, his body.


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