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Romans 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. There are a lot of promises to the believer in the Bible as well as to the Jews concerning the city of Jerusalem. The Jews had a hard time grasping that anything could ever happen to that city. What they missed was those promises were based on them responding properly to God's grace toward them. God gives us all the tools for that not to happen. The man that owed the ten thousand talents was saved by grace, but he ended up falling from grace because of his response to it.

"If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door."

Genesis 4:7

"That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel..."

Matthew 23:35 KJV Crown copyright in UK

Continued from previous.

What should be asked and a great concern is what should salvation look like in a believer because many shall be deceived.

First of all shall you continue in sin?

Paul answers that here in

Romans 6:1-4.

We have been REGENERATED, REBORN, Given a new heart and ready to present Christ work through us. Titus 3:4-6.

We have eternal life now that can bare fruit such as faith ect...

This is what James is saying in James 2:17-18.

What James is saying is he's going to show that this gift is in him by his works. You see a Christian is saved UNTO good works. Ephesians 2:10.

When you are saved, you are baptized into Christ. It is he that works in you. Philippians 2:13.

Also;

Philippians 1:6. Being confident of this very thing, THAT HE WHICH HATH BEGUN A GOOD WORK IN YOU WILL PERFORM IT UNTIL THE DAY OF JESUS CHRIST:

If you can loose your salvation all these scriptures means nothing.

Here's another scripture often used.

John 14:15. "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Well look at the next verse.

Vs 16. "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, THAT HE MAY ABIDE WITH YOU FOR EVER; This Love is a fruit, so who is causing you to Love Christ? CHRIST SPIRIT, The HG.

Most people say you can loose your salvation also believes you can earn salvation which you can't do. And if they hold to that it's sad to say but the scripture says they have fallen from Grace. Galatians 5:4.

I believe this means comes up short.

Now if you come up short you will hear this. "And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:23.

I never knew you can never be told to a believer because of this verse. "My sheep hear my voice,.... AND I KNOW THEM,.... and they follow me: John 10:27.

Now if a person have habitual sin in their life, Chances are you're not saved. And you can't loose what you don't have.

I hope this helps.

God bless.

Hi Renee.

In a way you we lost our salvation win Adam sinned. Romans 5:12. There is no way we can redeem ourselves. Isaiah 64:6. Without focusing on what the filthy rags are, have you ever tried cleaning with one? Our salvation is not in our hands. Our salvation and Sanctification is in the Lords hands.

If our lack of perfection couldn't achieve salvation, how is our lack of perfection going to keep salvation? or obtain it again if we lost it.

If you have ETERNAL LIFE you have it NOW.

John 10:28. And I give unto them eternal life; AND THEY SHALL NEVER PERISH, NEITHER SHALL ANY MAN PLUCK THEM OUT OF MY HAND.,

When we are saved we are sealed.

Ephesians 4:30. And grieve not the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, WHEREBY YE ARE SEALED UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION.

It's God spirit in you, you may and will grieve him but he will never forsake you. Hebrews 13:5.

God bless.

The first thing is to accept Christ in your heart & believe that He is Lord & confess with your lips & then let the transformation begin by studying His word & building a relationship with Him. This will allow you to die to self & begin to live for Christ through Christ -Noone knows whether you will be saved or not but Christ but you continue to allow Christ to transform you into the vessel that He created for His purpose & I think you will be on the right path. God bless you in your walk with CHRIST. i know the bible teaches to be blameless in all of our ways & put on Christ like character. Ask for forgiveness when you have wronged & be sincere because the Spirit knows when you are not sincere. Hope this helps.

Hi Renee,

This is a common question and that's even one of the FAQs: Link

My question is if it was impossible for Christians to lose salvation, then why did Jesus warn His followers so many times to avoid sin? They were literal Christians in that they literally followed Christ around and remember all the challenges and parables He spoke? Most involved being separate from those thrown into the fire. Jesus never said to relax and don't worry, and enjoy the world, including sin, because there's no consequences anymore. One would think that satan would say that. That doesn't mean people earn heaven by works, as it's only grace, but being allowed into heaven is conditional on being a legit follower of Christ, meaning actually doing what He says! James 1:22. And sadly most people won't make it, and probably many of them think they're 'good' and entitled to get in, and some may even call themselves Christians. Matthew 7:21-23

Also, if all you have to do to get to heaven is just believe, then why does the Bible say this? James 2:19. The fact is that satan is roaming to deceive people, even among Christians. Is he deceiving people into being 'gooder' than they need to be or is it more likely he is deceiving people into assuming rationalizing evil and assuming they're saved when they are actually disrespecting and spitting on Jesus? Hebrews 10:26. This should deeply scare some people and they should feel it in their heart if this applies to them.

Instead Jesus kept warning Christians and everyone over and over and challenging them. Paul also was frustrated with some of the Christians who were going astray and read what he wrote in his letters to them. Paul said to run the race to get the prize. He didn't say the race is already won, so go sin as much as you want. There's lots of scripture echoing this, but these are easy to find and there's lists in that page above too. Also the idea of being able to commit horrible sins as a Christian and still go to heaven contradicts scripture in blasphemy of the holy ghost, because it clearly says no one will be forgiven of that.

Revelation 2:10 "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life."

2 Corinthians 5:10 - all will be judged, including Christians. Some like to assume they get to skip that as if they have a free pass . It clearly says ALL, not some, and not just non-Christians.

Hebrews 10:26

Salvation is always there for you , but A believer can fall away so far that they don't make the first resurrection, whereby spending the 1000 Millennium on the wrong side of Heaven being ruled instead doing the ruling for Christ.

This would be the first death, and you would still get another chance to come back to God thru Christ before the Great White Throne Judgement, I pray you make the First!

Read scripture, find out what God wants from you,,,

I would like to know if I could lose my salvation? Because I've heard yes and no. But if the answer is yes, what would have to take place for me to lose my salvation? I just want to make sure I'm in good standing when Jesus calls us up.

Thank You,

Renee

Thank you dear Lord Jesus! Much love in Him. Luke 24

I have been reading this specific bible verse for some time now, psalms 91. It has motivated and lifted my spirit in my deepest trial and down time. I will continue to trust, have faith, and believe in God. For he has always come through for me, Amen

I love the lord he heard my cry

And He loves you!! :D

Matthew 22:14

For many are called, but few are chosen.

1 Peter 2:9 - But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

John 15:16 - Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Streetpreacher

I love Jesus Christ

God is the king of the universe

There is a Link out on the red entry page you came in on; BECOME A BELIEVER. Its just below the question and discussion rooms Links.

It really explains what happens when you decide to receive Jesus as your Savior. And what the next steps are. I wish I'd had that when I was saved.

In John chapter 3, Jesus is talking to Nicodemus about being born again. He speaks of the Holy Spirit as the wind. We receive Salvation from Jesus. He sends the Holy Spirit, to live within us.

Water Baptism is a outward expression of what has happened to us. It is wonderful to have everyone witness your commitment to Jesus; family and friends. It's an outward expression of an inward change.

I was water baptized at 13. My Church never taught much about the Holy Spirit. (Southern Baptist)

I met Him 22 years later. He indwells your born again spirit. He teaches you as you read the Bible. Your life will never be the same. All the love you ever craved to be yours, will be there with you each day. He can be grieved or quenched, so that's why we study the New Testament first.

Satan doesn't want us to read the Bible because he knows we'll learn of the freedom we have in Jesus. He'll make the phone ring, people show up at the front door and all kinds of hindrances. Disappoint him when he pulls those tricks out on you.

Come back here often with any questions.

Streetpreacher

Why are there so many churches that teach baptism under Matthew 28:19 and some under Acts 2:38? What is the correct way to get to heaven? So much confusion in this world. What does the Bible truly teach is the correct way?

Favorite Bible verse

Benson Commentary

Job 42:6. Wherefore I abhor myself. The more WE SEE of the glory and majesty of God, the more we shall see of the vileness and odiousness of sin, and of ourselves because of sin; and the more we shall abase and abhor ourselves for it; and repent in dust and ashes - Namely, sitting in dust and ashes. Job's afflictions had brought him to the ashes, Job 2:8, He sat down among the ashes; but now a sense of his sins brought him thither.

Observe, reader, true penitents mourn for their sins as heartily as ever they did for any outward afflictions; for they are brought to see more evil in their sins than in their troubles; and even those who have no gross enormities to repent of, yet ought to be greatly distressed in their souls for the workings of pride, self-will, peevishness, discontent, and anger, within them, and for all their hasty, unadvised speeches; for these they ought to be pricked in their hearts, and in bitterness, like Job.

Observe, also, that self- loathing is always the companion of true repentance. They shall loathe themselves for the evils they have committed, Ezekiel 6:9.

It is not sufficient that we be angry at ourselves for the wrong and damage we have, by sin, done to our own souls; but we must abhor ourselves, as having, by sin, made ourselves odious to the pure and holy God, who cannot look upon iniquity but with abhorrence. If sin in general be truly an abomination to us, sin in ourselves will especially be so; the nearer it is to us, the more loathsome it will appear to be, and the more we shall loathe ourselves on account of it.

Confess your faults one to another; pray that you will be healed.

Mount up on wings like eagles. Isaiah 40:31

Job's story has an happy ending.

Why did job have to repent the bible says job was a righteous man

FOR IT IS WRITTEN!!

A number of times during His earthly ministry, Jesus responded to questions with, "It is written" (7 times in Matthew, 4 times in Mark, 5 times in Luke, 1 time in John). In the Bible, we also read of many time when Jesus quoted the truths of God from the Hebrew Scriptures.

Satan doesn't dispute whether it was written or not. He tries to redefine the word of God.

as seen here.

Genesis 3:4-5. and

Matthew 4:3-7, 10.

Notice every rebuke came from Jesus was by the written scripture.

3) And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

4) But he answered and said, IT IS WRITTEN, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. ( Deuteronomy 8:3.)

5) Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,

6) And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. ( Psalms 91:11-12.)

7) Jesus said unto him, IT IS WRITTEN again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

( Deuteronomy 6:16.)

10) Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for IT IS WRITTEN, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. ( Deuteronomy 6:13. Deuteronomy 10:20.)

it's interesting The Lord and Satan goes back and forward over what is written.

They both took the scripture literally! The issue is how to apply it.

With Eve the Devil tactic was to misinform.

With the Lord the Devil tried to misapply scripture.

When the enemy can't remove the scripture he set tares amongst us to distort the ministry in every way possible.

NOTE:

The notion that there is no Hell and there is no Satan comes from the same Evil source that told Eve she shall not surely die.

God bless.

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Gerry:

PROPHECY

Psalms 91:13 Thou (Christ, the old lion) shall tread upon the (young) lion (man) and the adder (the devil, man), the young lion (man) and the dragon (the devil, man) shall thou trample under feet (of Christ, the old lion).

Nahum 2:11 Where is the dwelling of the (young) lions (man), and the feedingplace of the young lions (man), where the (old) lion (Christ), even the old lion (Christ) walked, and the (old) lion's whelp (the young lion, man), and none made them (the young lion, man) afraid.

Job 4:10 The roaring of the (old) lion (Christ), and the voice of the fierce (old) lion (Christ), and the teeth of the young lions (man), are broken,

Job 4:11 The old lion (Christ) perisheth for lack of prey (when Christ subdues man, the young lions, under him), and the stout (old) lion's (Christ) whelps (young lions, man) are scattered abroad.

Genesis 49:9 (the tribe, children of) Judah are a (old) lion's (Christ) whelp (young lions, men), from the prey (devouring the young lions) Thou (old lion, Christ) art gone up, he (Christ) stooped down, he (Christ) crouched as a (old) lion, and as a (old) lion (Christ) who shall arouse him (the old lion, Christ).

God Bless YOU!

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Hopefully it continues.

Hopefully this information is helpful

I feel there is a significant detail that is possibly a detail that the LORD wants to show you. You may want to independent research about lions. I would be interested in what you find relating to what the LORD shows you!

Psalms 91, lions Psalms 91:13,

1st I must thank you, Thanks for bringing me back to this Psalms it's Powerful & encouraging!

Hear are more scriptures on lions within the scripture. Several of GOD's people were delivered from lions.

I understand it to mean, any lion just incase we question "what about a young one". Here's a scripture about "._._.an old lion,who shall rouse him up?' Genesis 49:9,

Young lion : Numbers 23:24,

these also mention a difference between: Job 4:8-21, Job 28:8, Job 38:39, Psalms 17:12, Isaiah 30:6, Isaiah 31:4,

Ezekiel 19:3, Amos 3:4, Micah 5:8,

Victory from lions : Judges 14, 1Samuel 17:34,36, 2Timothy 4:17, Daniel 6,

But also used against a Prophet that disobeyed GOD's specific orders : 1Kings 13,

Hopefully these are helpful

Why does it mention lion and young lion whats the difference

I need a bible

Yes! the Angels are present even though you may not see them when you believe in the Gospel. They are holy spirits who minister under God and are messengers and deliver God's people from danger just like how Psalm 91:11 says.

Dear brother/sister

I disagree with your comment about baptism as a condition for salvation

Please read Mark 16:15-16 .(there are other verses too)

" 15 - And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

Does baptism saves one if not born iagain? The answer is No.

Does new birth saves one if not baptised in water afterwards? The answer is still No.

One has to go through both of them to be saved (my opinion ...)

There is a difference between baprism in water and baptism in Spirit. The former you do it yourself, the later God does it.

Also there are different opinions between christians about baptism in Spirit, that are:

a. One is baptised in Spirit when one believes in Christ, that is when one is born again.

b. when one is baptised in water

c. baptism in Spirit has nothing to do with either new birth or baptism in water. It is independent of those, but has to be either at the same time or after new birth.

Anyway I think baptism in water is essential for salvation. There are exceptions to this only when one is impossible to be baptized, like the other thief on the cross next to Jesus, or when one has no time left to live, etc

GBU

This is an ongoing subject that gets wrangled routinely.

When you come to Jesus for salvation, BEING BORN AGAIN ( John 3), Jesus will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.

Water Baptism is a wonderful ceremony, to be shared with your Church and family. But it does not save you. You have to give your life to Christ and take His Life into your heart, mind, and soul__by asking to be baptized by the Holy Spirit.

Anyone can walk into a church and be baptized. Call and make an appointment first. It'll be private if that is your aim.

Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist, because it was a prophesy. A lot of people got baptized that day.

The best Baptism is the day you realize that the Holy Spirit is seated on the throne of your heart, and speaks to your heart with the still, small voice. He's teaching, comforting, warning when you're about to sin some way. He tells you about Jesus__if you will get into the Bible and read it every day. Start in Proverbs. Lots of practical information in there. Isaiah is prophetic scriptures about Jesus. Matthew to 1-2-3 John are Jesus's life on earth. Revelation gives you a special blessing for reading it. Every time you do.

By every means, grow up in Christ.

Refuse to be a ( Revelation 3:14-22) kind of Christian. Be hot.

I love you in Jesus, Mishael

Reply to Corey Banning.

What does Psalm 91 have to do with baptism?