Linda, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
I AGREE AND BELIEVE everything Jesse said in his comment to you. I will expand MY BELIEF a little more.
I BELIEVE that Christ; with the elect, are and will judge the world (Satan's kingdom that Christ took back at HIS resurrection). ( Matthew 4:8-9) ( Revelation 11:15) ( 1 Corinthians 6:2) ( 1 Peter 4:17)
I BELIEVE the parable of the workers; those called to work in God's vineyard, are the elect. Those called in the first hour are the apostles and others that took part in Pentecost. Since that first hour other workers have been called; till the present hour. Ourselves now being judged by the word of God; by our brothers before us, they being ONE IN CHRIST; have also become THE WORD, the BOOKS. ( Revelation 20:12) ( Revelation 20:4)
Matthew 19:28
Romans 11:31-32
Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of the creature WAITETH for the MANIFESTATION of the Son of God.
Romans 8:21 Because the creature ITSELF ALSO shall be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption unto the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Revelation 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me. thou must PROPHECY AGAIN before many peoples, and nations,and tongues,and kings.
I BELIEVE at the departure of this body we will be given THE FULLNESS OF GOD; which also will be HIS BODY, OMNIPRESENT able to judge others as he now judges us.
God knows who the 144,000 are, and I'm sure they are righteous souls. The 2 witnesses from both houses of Israel are there to document anti-Christs crimes for trial, as required by the law.
Too many people think that Elijah and Moses are the 2 witnesses, which goes to prove how easy it is to be a slave to what someone else believes.
Too many people believe in a pre-6th trumpet, day of the Lord rapture. Rapture is not Bible doctrine. Luke 17: 34-37 Jesus describes those being "taken" at the day of the Lord's visitation. They ask him, Lord, where are they taken? Jesus says you will find the bodies where the vultures are gathered--(they're dead).
However, at the 7th trumpet, the few who make it through the great tribulation are given an air lift to Christ. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 is how it's done. From an earlier question, Revelation 10:7 has a connection to Rev 11:15, providing resolution to the mystery.
I want more too. I'm sure 9-11-01 was Rev 9:1-11; the 5th trumpet sees mystery America terrorizing the world with their phony war on terror. It only makes sense that crooked America gets obliterated at the 6th trumpet, Revelation 9:13-21 by the beast. The Gematria screams inside job as well, God knows they love their witchcraft. Small example of the ritual: The Pentagon is 77 feet tall, it sits on the 77th meridian, and on 'September Eleventh' (77 Reduced Ordinal) was struck by fight 77, 77 minutes after takeoff, traveling at 530 mph (77 feet per second). World Trade Center = 77 (Full Reduction).
Ephesians 5:25-27, "as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."
What the Apostle Paul was speaking of in this passage has a dual application. He speaks about Jesus loving His Bride (the Church) by giving Himself for her. So we have not only had our hearts cleansed by His death & being forgiven by the Father, but He has sanctified us (i.e. set us apart as a Holy people) & cleansed us by washing us by the Word. Just as water baptism (a once only act) gives the believer a visible, practical testimony to himself & others of God's Work in Him, so to, the washing by the Word of God continues to be applied to that new regenerated heart, continually washing away the dross from one's life (the doubts, fears, sins, lies from the Devil, etc.). For those who seldom attend to God's Word, are usually those who seldom find full victory over these things in their lives. All this did Christ do for us & continues to do so by His Spirit, to the end that He might present us to the Father, a holy, glorious Church.
I know of this teaching: that water baptism is no longer valid. It is an old teaching that assumes that both water baptism & the Lord's Supper were instituted for the sake of & the establishing of the Church (& if taken further, that all spiritual gifts have also ceased). Once the Church formed, established & strengthened by the apostles, the 2nd Century Church onwards, then moved forward in faith alone, attending only to the study of the Word, prayer, fellowship, & sharing the Gospel. I can understand that point of view, but don't find any authority from the Bible to do so, as both water baptism & breaking of bread are very special events in the life of a believer, if observed properly & done sincerely.
Are we to be washed in the word (new testament) since Jesus died for our sins and we are saved by our faith and Gods' works, not by the works of water baptism? I have been told we no longer need to be water baptized, only faith and doing ministry.
Apostle Paul explains the best teaching as it pertains to the Sabbath in Hebrews 4. The Sabbath in Genesis 7 is prophetic and must be stied with Revelation 10:7. The Sabbath given unto the children of Israel was codified into the Law of Moses. The Messiah, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ showed forth how to keep the Sabbath, doing the work of God. Daniel 7:25 is the 4th kingdom upon the earth which is Rome/Europe.
Well. To me angels of the Lord are more than just men, or women, preachers. What about the "angels" of Sodom and Gomorrah who smote men with blindness? As they stated "the Lord hath sent us here to destroy it." What about the "angel" of the Lord who killed 185,000 Assyrians? Revelation 10:1 is clearly not talking about a human being. Also Revelation 12:7-9 speaks of "angels" fighting satan in Heaven. David seeing an "angel" of the Lord standing between earth and heaven. I could go on and on.
If you don't believe in angels and have your own assumption of the things in the Bible. That's fine. I myself believe in angels, Heaven, miracles, etc. Also believing in demons and satan. Having actually experienced things that most people would not believe. But that's ok.
Again I understand we are all different and can have our own views. This isn't to argue. Just to finish, my part, on angels.
Further to Jesse's comment: we don't have specifics on Apostle John's further ministry (v11). We understand from tradition (& not confirmed), that after he was sentenced to the mines on the Isle of Patmos, at which time he received these prophecies described in the Book of Revelation, he was then freed & left there to serve as Bishop of Edessa, in what is today Turkey. He then died an old man - the only apostle to die peacefully. So we don't have details of his ministry, post Patmos, though according to the angel's directive, John's ministry must have been extensive as he may have built upon Apostle Paul's earlier ministry there.
Rev. 10:8-11 is where John was given instruction concerning this little book. We see this same book in Ezekiel Chapters 2 and 3. This book is the title deed to the earth. But it is also the word of God. He's told to take it and eat it. The word of God is sweet to the taste. But the judgments are hard on the heart, and bitter to the belly.
It was always God's intention that God's people eat His word, that the word of God becomes our spiritual food, and that the word of God becomes part of us, and that we speak not just from out of the book, but out of our heart.
We're told to devour it first, not just memorize it or learn it with our mind, but to receive it spiritually, and devour it as the word of God. That's always the way it was intended to be.
So he said prophesy again, and he said you will do so in front of many people. To prophesy means to speak forth the written word of God that He has given to us, nothing added, nothing taken away. In other words, no new prophecy!
I agree with your thought, as it was too placed upon my heart in understanding and was shown also to look at the last chapter of the book of John who is the same person. Lord and Savior Jesus Christ bless you.
He has prophesied before many peoples, nations, tongues, and kings. The Word of God is not for a long ago time and place. It has lived and spoken to us down through the ages.
I thank God for every day whether I thank it is good or bad , think Revelation shouid bring a person closer To God. I try to understand that every one have to know God in their hearts for their self to know God is to love God.
Ronald; I hope you don't mind me jumping in here. I agree with you! A few examples: The fourth and final kingdom would be hard and cruel as iron, but mixed with the miry clay; that's the world right now! Jesus told the Jews, "I came in my Father's name and you receive me not; another shall come in his own name and him you will receive." even him whom they WILL NOT GIVE THE HONOR OF THE KINGDOM!
"..and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings." As we abide in Jesus and learn to overcome and prove true through our persecutions, trials and temptations, humiliations and chastisements; we increase in wisdom and knowledge, so God can send us to preach His Word, and to Prophesy.
Bruce, you are absolutely right, we are living in the great tribulation is upon us now,and people don't see it, always expecting it in the future. The reason they cant see it, is because their spiritual understanding of God word has not been opened, therefore they don't understand what they are reading. GOD BLESS.
Sabbathkeeperandwife, so happy to hear of your wife's healing. My mother has been diagnosed with cancer also, and is also paralyzed in her lower limbs. We are praying that God will do likewise for my mother. All prayers are greatly appreciated.
Matthew 24:22, Mark 13:20, And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. This is why people will be here during the tribulation period, before the Day of Christ comes back. People need to REPENT of their sins, and believe with a true heart our Lord Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for our sins. Amen.
I AGREE AND BELIEVE everything Jesse said in his comment to you. I will expand MY BELIEF a little more.
I BELIEVE that Christ; with the elect, are and will judge the world (Satan's kingdom that Christ took back at HIS resurrection). ( Matthew 4:8-9) ( Revelation 11:15) ( 1 Corinthians 6:2) ( 1 Peter 4:17)
I BELIEVE the parable of the workers; those called to work in God's vineyard, are the elect. Those called in the first hour are the apostles and others that took part in Pentecost. Since that first hour other workers have been called; till the present hour. Ourselves now being judged by the word of God; by our brothers before us, they being ONE IN CHRIST; have also become THE WORD, the BOOKS. ( Revelation 20:12) ( Revelation 20:4)
Matthew 19:28
Romans 11:31-32
Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of the creature WAITETH for the MANIFESTATION of the Son of God.
Romans 8:21 Because the creature ITSELF ALSO shall be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption unto the glorious liberty of the children of God.
Revelation 10:10 And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me. thou must PROPHECY AGAIN before many peoples, and nations,and tongues,and kings.
I BELIEVE at the departure of this body we will be given THE FULLNESS OF GOD; which also will be HIS BODY, OMNIPRESENT able to judge others as he now judges us.
Revelation 10:7
1 Thessalonians 4:16
1 Corinthians 15:44
Matthew 24:31
1 Thessalonians 4:17
1 Corinthians 15:32
Philippians 3:21
1 John 3:2
Matthew 13:43
Daniel 12:3
Revelation 21:4, 5
Colossians 1:20
John 10
Matthew 22:10
Matthew 25:34
Isaiah 65:17-19
2 Peter 3:13
1 Corinthians 2:9
Matthew 21:15
Psalm 8:3
Isaiah 65 19-25
Revelation 7:16-17
so much more...
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God knows who the 144,000 are, and I'm sure they are righteous souls. The 2 witnesses from both houses of Israel are there to document anti-Christs crimes for trial, as required by the law.
Too many people think that Elijah and Moses are the 2 witnesses, which goes to prove how easy it is to be a slave to what someone else believes.
Too many people believe in a pre-6th trumpet, day of the Lord rapture. Rapture is not Bible doctrine. Luke 17: 34-37 Jesus describes those being "taken" at the day of the Lord's visitation. They ask him, Lord, where are they taken? Jesus says you will find the bodies where the vultures are gathered--(they're dead).
However, at the 7th trumpet, the few who make it through the great tribulation are given an air lift to Christ. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 is how it's done. From an earlier question, Revelation 10:7 has a connection to Rev 11:15, providing resolution to the mystery.
I want more too. I'm sure 9-11-01 was Rev 9:1-11; the 5th trumpet sees mystery America terrorizing the world with their phony war on terror. It only makes sense that crooked America gets obliterated at the 6th trumpet, Revelation 9:13-21 by the beast. The Gematria screams inside job as well, God knows they love their witchcraft. Small example of the ritual: The Pentagon is 77 feet tall, it sits on the 77th meridian, and on 'September Eleventh' (77 Reduced Ordinal) was struck by fight 77, 77 minutes after takeoff, traveling at 530 mph (77 feet per second). World Trade Center = 77 (Full Reduction).
May God watch over you, Marilyn.
What the Apostle Paul was speaking of in this passage has a dual application. He speaks about Jesus loving His Bride (the Church) by giving Himself for her. So we have not only had our hearts cleansed by His death & being forgiven by the Father, but He has sanctified us (i.e. set us apart as a Holy people) & cleansed us by washing us by the Word. Just as water baptism (a once only act) gives the believer a visible, practical testimony to himself & others of God's Work in Him, so to, the washing by the Word of God continues to be applied to that new regenerated heart, continually washing away the dross from one's life (the doubts, fears, sins, lies from the Devil, etc.). For those who seldom attend to God's Word, are usually those who seldom find full victory over these things in their lives. All this did Christ do for us & continues to do so by His Spirit, to the end that He might present us to the Father, a holy, glorious Church.
I know of this teaching: that water baptism is no longer valid. It is an old teaching that assumes that both water baptism & the Lord's Supper were instituted for the sake of & the establishing of the Church (& if taken further, that all spiritual gifts have also ceased). Once the Church formed, established & strengthened by the apostles, the 2nd Century Church onwards, then moved forward in faith alone, attending only to the study of the Word, prayer, fellowship, & sharing the Gospel. I can understand that point of view, but don't find any authority from the Bible to do so, as both water baptism & breaking of bread are very special events in the life of a believer, if observed properly & done sincerely.
If you don't believe in angels and have your own assumption of the things in the Bible. That's fine. I myself believe in angels, Heaven, miracles, etc. Also believing in demons and satan. Having actually experienced things that most people would not believe. But that's ok.
Again I understand we are all different and can have our own views. This isn't to argue. Just to finish, my part, on angels.
God Bless you David.
It was always God's intention that God's people eat His word, that the word of God becomes our spiritual food, and that the word of God becomes part of us, and that we speak not just from out of the book, but out of our heart.
We're told to devour it first, not just memorize it or learn it with our mind, but to receive it spiritually, and devour it as the word of God. That's always the way it was intended to be.
So he said prophesy again, and he said you will do so in front of many people. To prophesy means to speak forth the written word of God that He has given to us, nothing added, nothing taken away. In other words, no new prophecy!