Discuss Revelation 11 Page 3

  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jordyn

    You are saying"a thousand years is symbolic" by ignorance,Peter Apostle previously warned to be not ignorant as you manifest yourself be. To speak of the Word of GOD -the Word is GOD - , first of all it is necessary to have the Spirit of GOD, understand? The natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of GOD, neither CAN HE KNOW THEM,because they are spiritually discerned.

    You said"one day could also be as a million years",but according to the Word of GOD what you said it is FAKE,a misleading interpretation contradicting what the Holy Spirit said by Peter Apostole- 2Peter 3:8, and also contradicting what Moses said in his pray to the Lord GOD- Psalm 90:4- ,saying:"a THOUSAND YEARS in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past".Yeah, the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of GOD:neither can he know them,because they are spiritually discerned.

    Your thinking is from a human perspective,a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective.Your interpretation and misleading message is similar or even the same as Genesis 3:1,and is good for nothing,if not for it exclusively be burned with everlasting fire.

    The kingdoms of THIS CURRENT DEVIL' s WORLD are become the Kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ, - Revelation 11:15- , and the dragon, that old serpent,which is the Devil and Satan,he will be chained,and will be cast down,even in this current millennium,into the bottomless pit for a thousand years,that he should deceive the nations no more,till the thousand years should be fulfilled.

    I saw thrones,and Judgment was given unto them that were sat upon the thrones:I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of JESUS,and for the Word of GOD,and they will live and reign with Christ a THOUSAND YEARS.The rest of the dead will not live again until the thousand years be finished.And when the thousand years expire,Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,and shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth.
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    JESUS left so clear, saying: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Matthew 28:18

    So, in this current millennium, the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the LORD's Day, all things in whole world are under JESUS's control, nothing random happens, understand?

    Matthew 25:31-34 and 41&46

    31 When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels(true believers- Luke 20:35-36.Take a look) with Him, then shall He sit upon the throne of His glory:

    32 And before Him shall be gathered all nations: and He shall separate them one from another(this will be literally be fulfilled from now on), as a shepherd divideth His sheep from the goats:

    33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

    34 Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world: ( Revelation 11:15-18. Take a look.)

    41 Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels(messengers):

    46 And these shall go away into EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT: but the righteous into life ETERNAL.

    The EVERLASTING PUNISHMENT was previously determined to start in this current time, precisely in this beginning of the seventh and last millennium, so it will NEVER END from now on, it's for EVER.

    When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the DESOLATION thereof is nigh. Woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in these days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and WRATH upon the people. These are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

    Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory- Luke 21:26-27.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Lisanne

    Now,in the beginning of this seventh and last millennium or seventh and las Day,the Lord's Day,who is in the command of the history is JESUS,nothing will random happen,as He said: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth- Matthew 28:18. By the way, He is the heir of the Earth. JESUS prophesied, saying to the Jews: - Matthew 5:43-47 -->43 I am come in my Father's name,and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER(AN IMPOSTOR/A FALSE MESSIAH)shall come in his own name,him ye will receive.

    That said, the manifestation of false Messiah should happen in this decade but before 2030, and FIRST he will give his Power, and his Seat (in Jerusalem), and great Authority to the MAN Beast of sea established by him in Rome, and it for forty and two months-the FIRST half of the last week, week 70th- Revelation 13:5-, and JERUSALEM, the hly city, will be / is given unto the Gentiles, and the holy city shall they tread under foot 42 months- Revelation 11:2. JESUS warned: Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled- Luke 21:24.

    The fullness of Gentiles ENDS in the middle of the last week, week 70th, and then the Abomination of Desolation set up. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth(Israel-the clay, the dry land) and of the sea!(the Gentile nations) for the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    Daniel 12:10-12

    10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

    12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

    Rev.16:15

    Behold,I come as a thief.Blessed is he that watcheth,and keepeth his garments,lest he walk naked,and they see his shame.

    Get ready
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    Revelation 13:4-6

    4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the Beast (unto the Beast of sea who was established by the dragon in Rome), and they worshipped the Beast (of sea), saying, Who is like unto the Beast? who is able to make war with him? ----> Michael is.

    5 And there was given unto him(unto the Beast of sea that the dragon established it in Rome) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies;

    and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (the court will be given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months- Revelation 11:2- . JESUS warned: Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled- Luke 21:24)- Get ready

    6 And he -the Beast of Rome - opened(will open) his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. (the dragon will give to the Beast of Rome his power, and his seat-in JERUSALEM-, and great authority- Revelation 13:2.

    Revelation 12:9-12

    9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

    10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

    11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

    12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth(Israel-the clay, the dry land) and of the sea!(the Gentile nations) for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    Get ready
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Bennymkje

    The most important thing is what JESUS said: Luke 20:35-36

    35 But they which shall be accounted WORTHY to obtain that world (next world-the Kingdom of GOD- Revelation 11:15-18, among other biblical references), and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

    36 Neither can they die any more: for they are EQUAL unto the ANGELS; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

    Revelation 5:10

    10 And hast made us unto our GOD kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

    Matthew 5:5

    5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

    Act 1:9-11

    9 And when JESUS had spoken these things, while they beheld, He was taken up; and a CLOUD received Him out of their sight. ( Matthew 17:5-5 While JESUS yet spake, behold, a bright CLOUD overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

    10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

    11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same JESUS, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    Mat.5:5-Blessed are the meek:for they shall inherit the earth.

    Rev.5:10-And has made us unto our GOD kings and priests:and we shall reign on the earth.

    How can the meek inherit the earth?

    Zechariah 4:1-6

    1-And the angel that talked with me came again,and waked me, as a MAN that is wakened out of his sleep.

    2-And said unto me,What seest thou?I have looked,and behold

    (1)a candlestick all of gold

    (2)with a bowl upon the top of it, and

    (3)his seven lamps thereon, and

    (4)seven pipes to the seven lamps,which are upon the top thereof:

    3-And two olive trees by it,one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.

    Interpreting the above Scriptures:

    1-Candlestick is the Church(Rev.1:19)of the LORD-His body;

    2-with a bowl upon the top of it:-the bowl is for storing and conserving the oil produced by the two olive trees to the Candlestick-that is for the anointed Church of the LORD;

    3-and his seven lamps thereon:the seven lamps are the seven Spirits of GOD-Rev.4:5;

    4-and seven pipes to the seven lamps which are upon the top thereof(the 7 lamps are 7 spirits of GOD-they are placed on the top of the pipes to enlighten the Church of the LORD,mainly in this time of Apocalypse-END of the times,and establishment of GOD's Kingdom: but NOT by might,nor by power(not by human power),but by my Spirit,saith the Lord of hosts,as is written in Mat.5:5 combined with Rev.5:10)

    4-So I answered and spake to the angel that talked with me, saying,What are these,my lord?

    5-Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me,Knowest thou not what these be?And I said,No,my lord.

    6-Then he answered and spake unto me,saying,This is the Word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel,saying,Not by might,nor by power,but by my Spirit,saith the Lord of hosts.

    Revelation 11:15-18

    15And the seventh angel sounded;and there were great voices in heaven,saying,The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,and of his Christ;and he shall reign for ever and ever.
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    Romans 8:19-21

    19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

    20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

    21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    The Word is GOD, self-executing. Believest thou this?

    Could not this man -JESUS- which opened the eyes of the blind, have caused that even this man should not have died?

    Take ye away the stone. Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of GOD?

    1 Thessalonians 4:13-17

    13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

    14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will GOD bring with Him.(GOD is Life)

    15 For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the Trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:(According Daniel 12:2-3)

    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds(the same cloud that was seen by the disciples- Acts 1:9-11), to meet the Lord in the air(in the 3rd heaven that will be established from now on): and so shall we ever be with the Lord.(in he 3rd heaven, which will last a thousand years- Revelation 11:15).

    The Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely- Revelation 22:17.

    20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother GiGi

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    You said that you "don't know if the angels can see the Father, or if for all eternity they saw the Godhead in the Son even before He was incarnated".

    Remember that John the Baptist was an angel( Isaiah 40:1 to 14 reveal who is his person combined with Malachi 3:1), angels are born by the Power of the Word of GOD, by prophecy, even our Lord JESUS affirmed this( Matthew 11:9-10), and John the Baptist, the angel of the Lord, knew JESUS before His birth, as even he testified: John the Apostle wrote about the testimony of John the Baptist, saying: John 1:18 - 18 No man hath seen GOD at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him.

    By the way, we must know with certainty through the Word of GOD that the TRUE BELIEVERS will be angels of GOD from now on, by the transformation and changing of the nature of them all, the Word of GOD will do it in the true believers, do you understand? Because they was born from GOD-from the Word-the Word is GOD- Philippians 3:20-21 combined with 1 Corinthians 15:51-55 and Romans 8:18-25, Believest thou this?)

    Our Lord JESUS said: Luke 20:35-36-

    35 - They which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world (next world-the Kingdom of GOD- Revelation 11:15-18) and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

    36 Neither can they die any more: for they are EQUAL UNTO THE ANGELS; and are the children of GOD, being the children of the resurrection.

    Matthew 25:29 - For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.

    Matthew 25:4-6

    4 - The wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

    5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and SLEPT. (Similar Genesis 2:21-25)

    6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; GO YE OUT(yes, GO OUT)TO MEET HIM.

    Come up hither- Revelation 4:1

    Hallelujah, praise our GOD
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Giannis

    In my understand and vision you need to re-study what you wrote for good self-correction. Remember: JESUS said: John 14:28 - 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is GREATER than I. I highlighted this detail in my prior post.

    And about the person of the Holy Spirit I said and explained also he is the lesser among the three. By the way, in Revelation 11:4 JESUS called the person of the Holy Spirit as God of the earth.

    Surely, as you said, "we must go with faith, just accept it as it written".

    GOD bless and be careful
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    God's anger (part 2)

    God is angry with the nations as well as individuals. Revelation 11:18 begins a discussion of God's wrath and it is accomplished when the winepress is trod alone by Christ ( Isaiah 63:3) which mirrors Armageddon as described in Revelation 19; but also the campaign of the Exekiel 38 war and the nations God destroys in the process.

    In such a topic; of course we see other attributes of God balancing things such as wrath and anger with patience and longsuffering of the Lord; for instance. In all this discussion it is important to see how a balanced picture of our Lord brings a better focus as to who He is. We can't just focus on anger or there is no hope for His love; but the same holds true for those who only want to hear "encouraging" verses in scripture. As famously stated we either have all of Christ or we have in reality none of Him. We must take the whole counsel of the Word of God rather than cherry picking what we want as context gets thrown out the window at best with that mindset; and at worst whole doctrinal truths are cast aside. Such is the action of such deists as Benjamin Franklin apparently. The flesh really doesn't even comprehend God's love; for human love and its vicissitudes clearly can't be trusted ( Jeremiah 17:9) as our heart is desperately wicked and who can know it? God judges impartially and is not a "respecter of persons" ( Romans 2:11-16; Acts 10:34). He is entirely righteous and no one can argue with Him once judgment comes. As Psalm 2 states we should "kiss the Son" while He is in the way so that His anger doesn't make us perish (verse 12; loosely translated). God's terms are having Christ as our mediator and High Priest because He can't look upon sin ( Heb. 9:15; Habakkuk 1:13). God will thankfully bring His own people to completion and hence the new heaven and earth will have nations of righteous people serving God; both the survivors of the Tribulation and Resurrected/Raptured saints.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Jesse

    It's a pleasure to hear from you,brother.

    As I quoted in my prior post,JESUS shewed unto His disciples His HANDS and His FEET- Luke 24:40.

    You think that "Scripture does not give us that", but remember that our GOD said to the Serpent-> GEnesis 3:13-15 combined with Job 13:27:

    13And the Lord GOD said unto the woman,What is this that thou hast done?And the woman said,The serpent beguiled me,and I did eat(i.e.the woman believed in the interpretation of the Word of GOD by the man of sin,son of perdition,called Serpent in Genesis.Today, i.e.in this time of Apocalypse,he is called red Dragon- Revelation 12).

    14And the Lord GOD said unto the serpent,Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed...and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: (man was made of the dust",so once man fell deceived by the woman deceived by the man of sin,and still is until this current time, who is the son of perdition,in the beginning called Serpent.

    In fact,all mankind was made/produced into the belly of the Serpent, EXCEPT JESUS,of course,my oldest brother,the firstborn among many brethren- Romans 8:29.By the way, GOD has a lot and countless sons,but there are two who are lawful GOD's sons,not by adoption-JESUS and the Comfort,the Paraclete,the Ancient of days.

    15And I-GOD- will put enmity between thee and the woman(now the Church-the body of Christ-,and between thy seed(sons of Devil) and her seed(sons of GOD, true believers);it shall bruise thy head,and thou shalt bruise His heel.

    Remember,JESUS said- Luke 20:35-36:

    35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world(the next world-the millennial GOD's Kingdom- Revelation 11:15-18),and the resurrection from the dead(dead? Colossians 3:3-7.Take a look), neither marry,nor are given in marriage:

    36 Neither can they die any more:for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God,being the children of the resurrection ( Colossians 3:3-7 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:17 and 1Corinthians 15:51-55).
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jordyn

    Your thinking is from human perspective, a stumblingblock, not from GOD's perspective- Matthew 16:23-23.

    In Romans 5:9 Paul was speaking of the salvation of the wrath, NOT of the salvation of the tribulation. It seems you don't know to distinghish between WRATH and TRIBULATION. When Paul, author of Romans, returned to Lystra, and Iconium and Antioch- Acts 14:22-, he said to the believers to exhort the disciples to continue in the faith, because we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of GOD(as is written in Revelation 11:15-18 and 1 Cor.15:24-26).

    Furthermore, you repetidly say in your post the Father WRATHED against His Son, the Christ, the Messiah, what you are preaching will NEVER happended, GOD the Father NEVER wrathed against His Son, so what you wrote is devilish, in fact is satanic. As was revealed to Isaiah "Surely he -JESUS, the Messiah- hath borne our griefs and carried our sorrows, He was WOUNDED for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the CHASTISEMENT WAS UPON HIM (NOT THE WRATH OF THE FATHER AS YOU IN MALIGN SENSE WROTE) and with His stripes we are healed. Yeah, GOD NEVER wrathed against His own Son. By the way, your evil post is a confirmation of what is written the Word of GOD: "he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth"- John 3:31:

    Your interpretation of Scriptures is not different of the man of sin, son of perdition- Genesis 3:1, but equal. GOD forbid us.

    Well, in fact "no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him- Matthew 11:27. It's it.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "Rainwalker

    Your thinking is from a human perspective,not from GOD's perspective. JESUS said: Luke 21:24-And they(the Jews-Israel)shall fall by the edge of the sword,and shall be led away captive into all nations(this part of the verse literally fulfilled against Israel, from 70 to 1948, 1878 years of severe curses and punishments,and plagues- Deuteronomy 28:15-63):and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles(this part of prophecy will literally fulfill in days to come,also according to the Revelation 11:2)until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

    Matthew 24:15 -When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,spoken of by Daniel the prophet( Daniel 12:6-12),stand in the holy place,(whoso readeth,let him understand)

    Daniel 12:6-12

    6And one said to the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

    7And I heard the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven,and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time,times,and an half;and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people,all these things shall be finished.

    8And I heard,but I understood not:then said I,O my Lord,what shall be the end of these things?

    9And he said,Go thy way,Daniel:for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the END.

    10Many shall be PURIFIED,and made WHITE,and TRIED;but the wicked shall do wickedly:and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away (Jesus' sacrifice has already lasted 738,300 days,and now will be taken away),and the abomination that maketh desolate set up(in the midst of the last week of years),there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.(END of this current world of Devil)

    12Blessed is he that waiteth,and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Greetings in Christ JESUS, "Bennymkje"

    "In the beginning God created the heaven(s) and the earth." Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of GOD(the Word is GOD, self-executing), so that things which are seen WERE NOT MADE of things which do appear.

    In the beginning-in JESUS- GOD the Father created the 1st,2nd,and 3rd heavens(this is the next to be established- Luke 20:35-36, combined with 2Corinthians 12:1-4, and Revelation 11:15-18), and the heaven of the heavens. By the way, "the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment (this Day arrived, that is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium) and perdition of ungodly men. NOTE: The heavens which will be burned from now on is the 1st and 2nd heavens, the 3rd will be established, and "unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath"- Matthew 25:29.

    Furthermore, GOD revealed the creation to Moses around 2.500 years after Adam or 1500 years BC. JESUS, the Greater Light- Genesis 1:16- came in the fourth Day, around 4.000 years after Adam. John 5:17 - JESUS said: My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. According Chistian calendar from JESUS until the present time passed more around 2.000 years, so we are living in the beginning of first century of the seventh and last millennium or seventh and last Day, the LORD's Day. Therefore, GOD RESTS DOWN FROM HIS WORKS FROM NOW ON.

    "In the beginning-IN JESUS- GOD -the Father - created the heaven(s) and the earth - earth here is Israel, still in the embryo, and not the planet Earth where GOD sits Himself - Isaiah 40- ,for Israel as a nation was created around 2500 years after Adam.

    John 1:3-5

    The light shineth in darkness;and the darkness comprehended it not. All things were made by JESUS; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello "Jim Miller"

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    Yes, "Excellent exegesis (of) Brother Giannis, yet terriffying subject matter" , but there are more also very terrifying things said by our Lord Jesus Christ for happening in this current time, simultaneously and sequencially after this current period of sorrows that is running, as follow:

    Matthew 24:9-15

    9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

    10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

    11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

    12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

    13 But he that SHALL ENDURE unto the END, the same shall be saved.

    14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then SHALL THE END come.

    15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) --->2Thes. 2:3-4 -> 3 Let no man deceive you by any means:for that Day (referring to this current Day, the seventh and last Day) shall not come,except there come a falling away first,and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    4 Who opposeth (will opose)and exalt(eth) himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth (shall sit- John 5:43-47) in the temple of God(JERUSALEM, spiritually called Sodom and Egypt- Revelation 11:8), shewing himself that he is God. Furthermore we will see not so far from this present time, the son of perdition shall give to the Vicarivs Filii Dei

    his Power, and his Seat(in Jerusalem), and great Authority- Revelation 13:2.

    And there was (there will be) given unto him (unto the Beast of sea)a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

    Let's be ready,the days will be shortened
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    The Rapture: Imminency and the Feast of Trumpets

    Many are aware Rosh Hashanah is coming between tomorrow and September 17 officially; which is known as the time in Jewish tradition where "no man knows the day and hour". ( Matt. 24:36). Of course even Jesus was said not to know the hour; only the Father so that it could be at any time; but perhaps on some specific feast of Trumpets based on the "last trump" ( 1 Cor. 15:52). Some have argued this means the last trumpet judgment in Revelation 11:15. The argument against that is that things appear to be going on as usual such as in the time of Noah (as we see in Matthew 24:37-39 immediately following the earlier reference). Surely that WON'T be the case after 14 judgments come to the earth.

    As to this year; of xourse we have another interesting development with world leaders preparing to meet and apparently now floating through Saudi Arabia a peace deal for the Palestinians and Jews which they are only observing that; of course will divide Jerusalem. ( Dan. 11:39); and that will be part of the Daniel 9:27 prophecy as well; or the covenant with death and hell ( Isaiah 28:18). This will result eventually in half of the city taken ( Zech. 14:1-2). It is interesting this meeting is timed for Sept 19-20 and they will celebrate world peace early (normally it is Sept. 21 apparently for the World day of peace).

    Let's step back a bit. I remember 40 reasons the Lord must come by 1988 (not sure the author). THAT didn't happen so the last genreation if it began in 1948 for the Lord to return based on Matthew 24:34 was wrong. Fast forward to 2018 and again SEVENTY years later which is as long as a generation can be and still no rapture. For Psalm 90:10 to be right the rapture would have had to happen by 2021 for the Second coming 2028 and STILL no rapture. My thesis is the beginning date is wrong; bassed on several things such as Luke 21:29-31 discussing ALL the trees (perhaps the whole area prospering economically)
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    continuation from above

    Revelation 19:5-9

    5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye His servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.

    6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD omnipotent reigneth( Revelation 11:15 to 18. Take a look).

    7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

    8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed IN FINE LINEN, CLEAN AND WHITE: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

    9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.

    Revelation 11:12-13

    12 And they (the two candlestlicks /two Churches-Gentile and Jewish Church)heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud (like JESUS- Acts 1:9-11-Take a look); and their ENEMIES beheld them.

    13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake(Resurrection???), and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the GOD of heaven.

    1Thes. 4:15-16 ->15 We say unto you by the Word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 The Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    Daniel 12:12- Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.(Oh yes, blessed is he that waiteth,and cometh to the Ineffable, Wonderful, Indescribable, unspeakable day, the day 1.335, Hallelujah!!!, by the way, 45 days after the period of 1290 days- Daniel 12:11.

    GOD BLESS. Get ready
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Daruled

    The Word is GOD, GOD the Father, two thousand years ago the Word -GOD- was made flesh, and the NAME He chose for He Himself was JESUS( John 1:18).

    Hebrews 1:2-3:- 2 In these last days (last two days) GOD has spoken unto us by His Son,whom He hath appointed heir of all things,by whom also He made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of His Glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE OF GOD's PERSON -the Word-...He sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high.

    1 John 5:7 - There are THREE that (TESTIFY)bear record in heaven,the Father(the Person of GOD the Father-the Word),the Word (GOD Son-the Word made flesh-JESUS),and the Holy Spirit-the Paraclete,the Confort- John 16:12-15 combined with Jn 15:26 (who is not a ghost as is written in English language, but a Person, actually the Ancient of Days- Daniel 7:22, and the God of the earth- Revelation 11:4):these three are One.

    By the way, Judgment was(will be) given to the saints of the most High;the time came that the saints possessed(will posses)the kingdom-Dan.7:22-(in LITERAL fulfillment of Rev.11:15to18.Take a look.)

    Unfortunatelly, Your thinking is from a human perspective,a stumblingblock,not from GOD's perspective.Who is of the earth is earthly,and speaks of the earth- John 3:31-who is from above is above all.

    JESUS said:He that believeth on me,as the Scriptures-the Bible- hath said,out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water- Jn 7:38.And more:Search the Scriptures(the Bible);for in them ye think ye have Eternal Life:and they are they which testify of me- Jn 5:39.

    JESUS said to the Devil:Man shall not live by bread alone,but by every word that proceedeth out of the MOUTH of GOD-Mat.4:4. By the way,GOD who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,Hath in these last days(last two Days or two millenia)spoken unto us by His Son,whom He has appointed heir of all things,by whom also he made the worlds-Heb.1:1-3

    Be careful or get ready

    The Word is GOD,self-executing
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Zechariah 3:8-10

    8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the Branch.

    9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.

    10 In that day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.

    These passages are deep with prophetic meanings. Christ (or the Branch) will bring the atonement; and allow fulfillment for Joshua and his fellowservants (part of the assembly inclusive of all saints) through the sevenfold spirit of God ( Revelation 1:4).

    The stone that is engraved perhaps is signifying a new covenant like the one in Exodus 32:16; or is like the seal of the Spirit

    in Ephesians 1:13; or 2 Corinthians 1:22.

    Verse 10 is cross referenced by Micah 4:4 and other passages; indicating the Millennial promises for Israel which likely extends to the whole world at that time.

    Here we see the reference to the two olive trees with the golden lampstand and the explanation. This parallels Revelation 11:4 as seen at the end of the chapter in verse 14. This chapter seems to imply Zerubbabel and Joshua as being the individuals in question here; while Revelation stronly suggests Elijah will return in the Tribulation ( Malachi 3:1). The second individual in my opinion based on Hebrews 9:27 could be Enoch; others have suggested other possibilities.
  • Richard H Priday on Zechariah 2 - 1 year ago
    Zechariah 2:1-2 state:

    I lifted up mine eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand. Then said I, Whither goest thou? And he said unto me, To measure Jerusalem, to see what is the breadth thereof, and what is the length thereof.

    These verses seem similar to Revelation 11:1-2 but in this case the city itself is being measured; not just the Temple.

    Verses 3-5 state: And, behold, the angel that talked with me went forth, and another angel went out to meet him,

    And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein: For I, saith the Lord, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her.

    This wall of fire seems to indicate conditions during the Millennium; but there are also some parallels to the conditions before the battle of Gog and Magog as Ezekiel 38:11 states "And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates..." Some question if this is one event or also is indicative of the event at the END of the Millennium in Revelation 20 (or perhaps both).

    Verse 6 through 8 state: Ho, ho, come forth, and flee from the land of the north, saith the Lord: for I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heaven, saith the Lord. Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon. For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye.

    This parallels verses such as Isaiah 49:12 "Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim." Starting in verse 9 of that chapter we see captives being released; again likely an event after the Tribulation.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Greetings in Christ JESUS S Spencer

    Yes, JESUS is our Kinsman redeemer. But according to the Word of GOD, there is a great mystery.

    There are actually two redeemers: the main Redeemer and a secondary or subordinate redeemer.

    The main Redeemer ( Ruth 4:4) is a Jew -JESUS- of course. Who is the other secondary redeemer or subordinate to the main redeemer, as revealed in Ruth chapter 4? And what is the inheritance of each of the redeemers? By the way, the secondary redeemer told the chief Redeemer-JESUS: What day thou buyest the field of the hand of Naomi, thou must buy it also of Ruth the Moabitess,... And the kinsman said, I cannot redeem it for myself, lest I mar MINE OWN inheritance: redeem thou MY RIGHT to thyself; for I cannot redeem it. Therefore the kinsman said unto the secondary redeemer, Buy it for thee. (Great mystery)

    Job 19:25-29

    25 I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the LATTER DAY upon the earth(that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last milennium, the millennium of Christ and of the Judgment Seat of Christ)

    26 And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see GOD:

    27 Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another...

    29 Be ye afraid of the Sword: for wrath bringeth the punishments of the Sword, that ye may know there is a Judgment.

    Revelation 11:18 - 18 And the NATIONS were (will be) angry, and thy wrath is come(GOD's wrath comes), and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest DESTROY them which destroy the earth. (This prophecy will fulfill LITERALLY from now on. Get ready you all)
  • Oseas - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 5 - 1 year ago
    Dgjot

    About your question:Matt.7:1-2 and Luke 6:36-37

    In my view,the preaching of the Gospel of GOD's Kingdom was beginning to be announced by JESUS,followed by the Apostles and disciples of the Lord,not to judge,but so that those who believed would be saved by knowing the Way,the Truth,and the Life.

    As for"Judge not lest ye be judged",Paul Apostle explains it better than I do: Romans 14:1-12

    1Him that is weak in the faith receive ye,but not to doubtful disputations.

    2For one believeth that he may eat all things:another,who is weak,eateth herbs.

    3Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not;and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth:for God hath received him.

    4 Who art thou that judges another man's servant?to his own master he standeth or falleth.Yea, he shall be holden up:for God is able to make him stand.

    5 One man esteems one day above another:another esteems every day alike.Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

    6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord;and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks;and he that eateth not,to the Lord he eateth not,and giveth God thanks.

    7For none of us liveth to himself,and no man dieth to himself.

    8For whether we live,we live unto the Lord;and whether we die,we die unto the Lord:whether we live therefore,or die,we are the Lord's.

    9For to this end Christ both died,and rose,and revived,that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

    10But why dost thou judge thy brother?or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?for we shall all stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ.

    11For it is written,As I live,saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,and every tongue shall confess to God

    12So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God

    But now,in the current time of Apocalypse,Judgment is given to the saints of the most High;the saints will possess the Kingdom( Revelation 11:15-18
  • Oseas - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 5 - 1 year ago
    Hi Dgjot

    Praise GOD

    What does the Word of GOD say for this current time, the seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, or seventh and last millennium? The Word is GOD, self-executable, understand?

    Romans 6:2-3

    2 Do ye not know that the saints shall Judge the WORLD? and if the WORLD shall be Judged by you(we), are ye(we) unworthy to Judge the smallest matters?

    3 Know ye not that we shall Judge angels (ANGELS of the Churches: Revelation 2:2; and 2:9; and 2:14-17; and 2:20; and 3:1-3; and 3:7-8; and 3:14-18)? How much more things that pertain to this life?

    Daniel 7:22

    22 ... and Judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the Kingdom.

    Revelation 11:15-18

    15 ... The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the Kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

    18 And the nations were (WILL BE) angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    Get ready

    1 Peter 4:17 - 17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

    18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

    John 2:28 - And now, little children, abide in Him; that, when He shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    David0921

    I work with the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD, self-executable. Daniel 12:10 says: Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    JESUS said: For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. Matthew 25:29. (This will be LITERALLY fulfilled from now on)

    1 Corinthains 13:9-10 & 8

    9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

    10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

    8 ... But whether there be prophecies, they shall fail (be annihilated); whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

    The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever- Revelation 11:15.

    And the NATIONS were (will be) angry, and GOD's WRATH is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that GOD should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

    Get ready
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi David0921

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    Yes, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of GOD: and they that hear shall live, and we which are alive shall be caught up together with them to meet the Lord, and so shall we ever be with the Lord, for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the ARCHANGEL, and with the trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

    And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD(Devil's world) are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever. Revelation 11:15

    And the NATIONS were(WLL BE) angry, and thy wrath is come(GOD'S WRATH has already started), and the time of the DEAD, that they should be Judged, and that GOD should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth- Revelation 11:18.

    Daniel 12:1-3 (combined with Isaiah 26:19-21. Take a look.)

    1 At that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

    2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

    3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

    An another of the disciples said unto JESUS: Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. But JESUS said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. (let the dead bury their dead? What is your understand of this?)
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    More than opinion is revelation. Matthew 24 has in part been LITERALLY fulfilled. In the year 70AD, verses 1 and 2 were fulfilled with the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem and the dispersion of the Jews throughout the world during 1878 years of severe plagues and curses, in addition to insufferable pain, according to Deuteronomy 28:15-68, 53 verses of strong and severe punishments.

    Now, verses 3 to 8 are being fulfilled, the beginning of sorrows, and the decay of the Churches with the development of apostasies and iniquities-verses 9 to 14.

    Then, the last week- Daniel 9:27- is about to start and with this event the persecutions of the first half of the week-42 months- Revelation 13:5- by the Beast of sea, culminating with the establishment of the Abomination of Desolation for 1,290 days in the second half of the week (plus 30 days)-verses 15 to 27 combined with Daniel 12:11 and 11:v.31. It is the END of this world and a sign of the coming of JESUS: Matthew 24:3 combined with Revelation 11:15-18. Blessed is he who waits and comes at 1335 days- Daniel 12:12 , 45 days after finishing the Abomination of Desolation. GET READY
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    To all

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    I'm astonished/surprised by the fact of the readers /students of the Bible don't discern that MAN already existed before GOD said: "Let us make MAN in our image, after our likeness: and ... "

    Yes man already EXISTED, but NOT in the IMAGE of GOD; MAN was only and only made of the dust of the earth whose breath was in his nostrils- Genesis 2:7 and 15-17, and Isaiah 2:22.

    Well, only after the fall GOD planned(GENESIS) to make man in His image, but how? GOD is Spirit, invisible. What is the image of a spirit?

    First step: GOD's decision. Genesis 1:26-GOD said(to JESUS, the beginning), Let us make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness( Hebrews 1:3 combined with John 5:17 and John 1:11-13): and let them have dominion over the ...

    2nd step: Execution of GOD's plan: Genesis 1:27 -So GOD created man in His own image, in the image of GOD created he him; male and female created He them. John 1:11-13 and John 5:17

    .

    Remember: 1 Corinthians 15:45-47

    47 The first MAN is of the earth, earthy; the second MAN is the Lord from heaven(is from a celestial /spiritual environment)

    45 The first MAN Adam was made a living soul(whose breath is in his nostrils- Isaiah 2:22); the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

    46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual

    Genesis 1:31

    And GOD saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. (This sixth GOD's Day just finished)

    Revelation 11:15-18

    15...The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever

    ...

    And the nations will be angry, and GOD's wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that should give reward unto the servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth

    GOD BLESS
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    To all

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    I'm astonished/surprised by the fact of the readers /students of the Bible don't discern that MAN already existed before GOD said: "Let us make MAN in our image, after our likeness: and ... "

    Yes man already EXISTED, but NOT in the IMAGE of GOD; MAN was only and only made of the dust of the earth whose breath was in his nostrils- Genesis 2:7 and 15-17, and Isaiah 2:22.

    Well, only after the fall GOD planned(GENESIS) to make man in His image, but how? GOD is Spirit, invisible. What is the image of a spirit?

    First step: GOD's decision. Genesis 1:26-GOD said(to JESUS, the beginning), Let us make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness( Hebrews 1:3 combined with John 5:17 and John 1:11-13): and let them have dominion over the ...

    2nd step: Execution of GOD's plan: Genesis 1:27 - So GOD created man in His own image, in the image of GOD created he him; male and female created He them. John 1:11-13 and John 5:17.

    Remember: 1 Corinthians 15:45-47

    47 The first MAN is of the earth, earthy; the second MAN is the Lord from heaven(is from a celestial /spiritual environment)

    45 The first MAN Adam was made a living soul(whose breath is in his nostrils- Isaiah 2:22); the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

    46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual

    Genesis 1:31

    And GOD saw every thing that He had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. (This sixth GOD's Day just finished)

    Revelation 11:15-18

    15...The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He shall reign for ever and ever

    ...

    And the nations will be angry, and GOD's wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that should give reward unto the servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth

    GOD BLESS
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi David0921

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    Yes, "every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man(JESUS) after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

    The sacrifice of JESUS has lasted around 730.000 days, and has prevented until now the appearance and manifestation of the man of sin, the son of perdition (an ex-cherub). "Who (will) opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God(will)sitteth in the temple of God(in the great city of Jerusalem where our Lord was crucified),shewing himself that he is God.Paul Apostle said:2 Thes.2:6-12:

    6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. (The time is from now on, in his time)

    7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let(but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way, that is the sacrifice of JESUS), until he be taken out of the way.(the sacrifice of JESUS will be take away)

    8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed(a false messiah, AN IMPOSTOR, John 5:43-47 and Revelation 12:11),whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of His mouth,and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:

    9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders

    10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the Truth(they received not JESUS), that they might be saved.

    11 And for this cause GOD shall send them strong delusion,that they should believe a lie:

    12 That they all might be damned who believed not the Truth(they believed not in JESUS),but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    Get ready,stay in Revelation 11:15-18

    GOD bless
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello

    You are right. "flesh and bones cannot be the image of God".

    JESUS said: Luke 20:35-36

    35 - They which shall be accounted WORTHY to obtain that world(next world-Kingdom of GOD- Revelation 11:15-18.Take a look.)- , and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

    36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of GOD( John 1:14), being the children of the resurrection.

    By the way, only and only JESUS was n ot born of the sin, was not of the Devil( John 8:44 & 46. Take a look.)

    Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of GOD - John 3:3.


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