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  • G.Newman on Revelation 12 - 13 years ago
    (1)first sign, wonder translated. Going to be two wonders or signs.Mother Israel and 12 Zodiac Job 38:32 Mazzaroth translates 12 signs speaking of Zodiac(vs2) birth of a new age(flesh)(vs 3) satan and his political structure. This structure has 7 and I think the next when he is kicked out by Michael to earth satan has 10.( Vs4) satan stole a thrid of the stars/children of Gods( Job 38:7) and parable of the sowerMatt. 13:36-44. Satan always trying to kill Christ or stop the plan of God. (Vs5) Christ will rule with a rod in this we see He rose from the cross.(6) this Mother is Israel-Mary- elect taken care of by God. Given solar in days.stay out of Isreal at the time cause the next verse of satan gets kicked out and he shows up their for 2 and half months of the 5 months spoken of in chapter 9. (Vs8) satans out on earth didn't win but woe to the earth(vs9) some of satans names.some of the rolls as an actor but not all of them. Tyrus, meaning little rock in Ezekiel 28 is one.
  • Christian on Revelation 12 - 13 years ago
    I saw this in the sky last year- Jesus wasn't yet on the horse.
    We all know what it means.
    Revelation -It is a story of love... "Give testimony of your healing and they overcame him(satan and illness)
    by the blood of the Lamb by the word of their testimony and they did not love their lives to the death. -I've witnessed this heal cancer, etc. Don't be afraid. References to fear not are made 365 times in the bible. He really is a God of such a great magnification of love that I can only pray that you be able to feel just a drop and be quenched for eternity. Don't believe anything the press or any media says about Jesus or God unless it is good. In Jesus.
    PS. Your sins were/are forgiven.
  • Jeff on Revelation 12:4 - 13 years ago
    ISIAIh 41 BRING forth your IDOLS did they PREACH to you see they can’t speak they can’t DO ANYTHING all they do is cause confusion. spalms 115 and spalms 135 thier IDOLS are FALSE cant speak can't hear cant smell and those that make them shall become like them. Jeremiah 10 they nail their IDOL down like a scarecrow it can’t move can'...t speak can’t move must be carried these are nothing but the WORK of CON men. john 10 jesus christ sais his sheep hear his voice and another voice thy will not follow and if another person tries to preach to them they WILL FLEE from him. jeremiah 5 the priests bear rule on their own authority what will you do when your judged my word is not inside them. Now here is the kicker john 5 son of man voice goes back in time mathew 16 jesus christ claims to be the son of man.‎1 cor2 mind of CHRIST preached internally and john 16 sais the spirit of truth comes in the future. Ezekiel 13 lying prophets of ISRAEL my word is not inside them saying god sais god sais god sais wrote hoping mankind would CONFIRM their WORDS. all of this is EASILY verifiable.
  • Aaron Smith on Revelation 12 - 13 years ago
    Lewis, I have been interpeting this exact thing since the 1980's When I was a young man...The woman clothed with the sun...is the statue of liberty with the sun behind her head and it is the fact that the US has made its living feeding the world with wheat and produce...you need the sun for vegetation! For instance, I'm a barber so I am clothed as a barber. The moon under her feet...We are the only country to step foot on the moon..Russia never stepped foot on the moon! Wow..That in itself should be enough to convince anyone and finally a crown of 12 stars. Exactly 12 American astronauts stepped foot on the moon and we have the majority or crown of the 12 tribes of Israel within our country there are less jews in Israel than there are in the US.

    And as you stated we are represented by an eagle we invented airflight and we have been around for 250 years. Rev. 12-18 is mostly a prophesy of the Church w/jewish christians backed US...then backslideing and becoming a whore then the utter destruction of US....and 9/11 is the desolation made by the abomination standing in the holy place...At this time we as believers should be fleeing to the mountains away from the US. Soon the 5th will fall the (5th us president to be assassinated and then the vice pres will be six and an election and the seventh and finally the antichrist "new world order" is the eight rev.17... rev 18:1-19 is 9/11/2001 and 18:21 is the total destruction of the US and the start of the Great Tribulation...This will occur on sept.30 2020 according to daniels timeline in daniel 12, Use the 4 june 485 bc (daniels vision written) add 1200 years 90 days, = 31 aug 715 AD (the Al aqusa mosque finished)Islam does not believe jesus is our sacrifice!,+ 1305 and 30 days = 30 sept. 2020...Jesus is the one waiting and coming! The Statue of liberty will be destroyed by an Astroid, Comet or NEO
  • Lulabell on Revelation 12 - 13 years ago
    well, the woman is the spiritual church, and I believe the 12 stars are the Holy apostles and prophets the foundation of the church, and the man child is when we are born into the church when we receive the gift of the holy Ghost we are caught up to heaven , remember the church and jesus christ are as 1, and the dragon is wroth wth the woman and makes war wth the remnant of her seed, which are the ones that the lord promises, our children, and those afar off, and whosoever the Lord will call.
  • James on Revelation 12 - 13 years ago
    Michelle,
    May the Peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you!
    That was the Our Lady Mary talking to you in your dreams. She wants to tell you something important. She is not the God of the Catholics, like many of our Protestant brothers believe we practice, but she's is the most perfect example of a servant of God carrying out the will of her Son and God.

    God Bless you,

    J.
  • Lewis atkinson on Revelation 12 - 13 years ago
    a lady clothed in the sun and the moon under her feet,and a crown of twelve stars on her head,i believe is a description of the USA the lady is the statue of liberty clothed in the sun rise every day of the year,the US have had human feet on the moon,the crown of twelve star is a representation of the US support of the nation of Israel,the two wings of the eagle given her to fly to the wilderness,our national symbol, the bald eagle,the wilderness represents the founding of the republic of the United States of America,a time,times and a half, just a guess 250 years approx. her seed would rule the nations with a rod of iron US foreign and economic policy,the child caught up to heaven to the throne of God is representative of the principles of our founding fathers.that have been forgotten and dismissed by revisionist historians the beast discribed with seven heads and ten horns,is an economic system devouring the world and will bring the ultimate destruction of the earth and all inhabitants stopped only by the pending return of Christ to rule on earth, just an observation....
  • Chris on Exodus 20 - 13 years ago
    Lou - The Old Testament is there for more than remembrance, it is still in effect. We are still expected to obey and follow the Old Testament Laws, statutes, and Feasts - even under grace. This is stated throughout the New Testament, it's how you show your faith and love - by being obedient.
    1 John 5:2-3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
    1 John 2:3-4 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
    There are many, many others as well, but you get the idea. In fact, a real clear example is the book of Revelation.
    Revelation 12:17 ... And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
    Revelation 14:12... Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
    Revelation 22:14... Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
    The devil (dragon) wages war during the Tribulation Period with those that keep the commandments AND have faith in Christ. The saints are those that keep the commandments AND have faith in Christ. True belief requires BOTH.
    I'm hope this helps, and clears up some of the misconceptions about the laws being done away with.
  • Chris on Leviticus 11 - 13 years ago
    In addition to the many verses quoted earlier about obedience, I would like to add a few more:
    1 John 2:3-4 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    1 John 5:2-3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
    Revelation 12:17 ... And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, AND have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
    Revelation 14:12... Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, AND the faith of Jesus.
    Revelation 22:14... Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
  • Bless Grace on Matthew 24 - 14 years ago
    Jesus were given his disciples and followers specific commands, a kind of worldwide works that individually should follow,if truly they are an obedient followers. This is about the preaching work about the Kingdom of God and discipleship making. Please read Matthew 24:14 and Matthew 28:18,20

    But most people around the world still do not know what is the Kingdom of God? And which among many religions are truly followers of Jesus, since Jesus himself warned that "many" will confess him as Lord but "will deceived many"- Matthew 24:4,5

    The safest things to do is to stay at home and wait someone to knock on our door. Why? Because Jesus had specific command to his true followers, at Matthew 10:5-11 Jesus commanded his follower to " Preach the good news of the kingdom of God through house to house method, village to village and city to city." Also read Acts 20:20

    Yes, if we are truly determined to obey Jesus command, We should stick to his "specific" teachings and wait until we meet this kind of people, right on our doorway. Ask them like, " Do you know what is the Kingdom of God?"

    Here are some truth about the Kingdom of God:

    When Will
    God’s Kingdom Come?

    “LORD, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” ( Acts 1:6) The apostles were eager to know when Jesus would establish his Kingdom. Today, some 2,000 years later, people are still eager to know: When will God’s Kingdom come?

    Since Jesus made the Kingdom the theme of his preaching, you might expect that he discussed this question. And indeed he did! He spoke extensively about a marked period of time that he called his “presence.” ( Matthew 24:37) That presence is closely tied to the establishment of the Messianic Kingdom. What is this presence? Let us consider four truths the Bible reveals about the presence of Christ.

    1. Christ’s presence would begin a long time after his death. Jesus gave an illustration in which he likened himself to a man who “traveled to a distant land to secure kingly power,” or to “secure a kingdom.” ( Luke 19:12; footnote) How was that prophetic illustration fulfilled? Well, Jesus died and was resurrected; then he traveled to the “distant land,” that is, heaven. As Jesus foretold in a similar illustration, his return in kingly power would come only “after a long time.”— Matthew 25:19.

    Some years after Jesus ascended to heaven, the apostle Paul wrote: “This man [Jesus] offered one sacrifice for sins perpetually and sat down at the right hand of God, from then on awaiting until his enemies should be placed as a stool for his feet.” ( Hebrews 10:12, 13) So a lengthy period of waiting followed Jesus’ arrival in heaven. The wait finally ended when Jehovah God made his Son the King of the long-promised Messianic Kingdom. That was when Christ’s presence began. Would humans on earth see this momentous event?

    2. The presence is invisible to human eyes. Remember, Jesus discussed the sign of his presence. ( Matthew 24:3) If his presence were visible to human eyes, would a sign be needed? To illustrate: Imagine that you are traveling to see the ocean. You may see road signs directing you along the way, but once you are at the shore, standing at the water’s edge with the vast expanse of water stretching out to the horizon, would you expect to see a sign with a big arrow pointing ahead, emblazoned with the word “Ocean”? Of course not! Why have a sign to point out what you can easily identify with your eyes?

    Jesus described the sign of his presence, not to point out something that humans could see with their eyes, but to help them discern something that would occur in heaven. Thus, Jesus said: “The kingdom of God is not coming with striking observableness.” ( Luke 17:20) How, then, would the sign show those on earth that Christ’s presence had begun?

    3. Jesus’ presence would be marked by a time of profound troubles here on earth. Jesus said that his presence as King in heaven would be marked on earth by wars, famines, earthquakes, pestilences, and lawlessness. ( Matthew 24:7-12; Luke 21:10, 11) What would cause all this misery? The Bible explains that Satan, “the ruler of this world,” is full of rage because he knows that his time is very short now that Christ’s presence as King has begun. ( John 12:31; Revelation 12:9, 12) Such visible evidence of Satan’s rage and of Christ’s presence has been abundant in our time. Especially since 1914, a year that historians acknowledge was a turning point, has this evidence appeared on an unprecedented and global scale.

    All of that may sound like bad news, but it is not. It means that the Messianic Kingdom is ruling now in heaven. Very soon, that government will exercise its rule right here over all the earth. How, though, would people know about that Kingdom in order to accept its rule and become its subjects?

    The bad news we hear every day proves that good things are coming soon
    Two women discussing Jesus' prophecy

    4. Jesus’ presence is marked by a global preaching work. Jesus said that his presence would be like “the days of Noah.”* ( Matthew 24:37-39) Noah was more than an ark builder; he was also “a preacher of righteousness.” ( 2 Peter 2:5) Noah warned people that a judgment from God was on its way. Jesus said that his followers on earth would be doing something similar during his presence. He prophesied: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.”— Matthew 24:14.

    As we saw in the preceding article, God’s Kingdom will destroy all the governments of this world. The preaching work alerts people that this heavenly government is about to act, giving all an opportunity to escape the coming destruction and become subjects of that Kingdom. The key question, then, is, How will you respond?
    Will God’s Kingdom Mean Good News for You?

    The message that Jesus preached was one of incomparable hope. After the rebellion in Eden thousands of years ago, Jehovah God purposed to form a government that would set matters right, returning faithful humans to the condition that God had in mind for them from the start—life eternal in a paradise here on earth. What could be more thrilling than the knowledge that this long-promised government is ruling right now in heaven? It is not some remote, abstract concept but a living reality!

    Now, God’s appointed King is ruling in the midst of his enemies. ( Psalm 110:2) In this corrupt world alienated from God, the Messiah is fulfilling his Father’s desire to search out all who want to come to know God as he really is and to worship him “with spirit and truth.” ( John 4:24) The hope of living forever under the rule of God’s Kingdom is available to people of all races, ages, and social backgrounds. ( Acts 10:34, 35) We urge you to take hold of the marvelous opportunity before you. Learn about God’s Kingdom now, so that you can enjoy living under its righteous rule forever!— 1 John 2:17.
  • Garyloyd newman on Genesis 4 - 14 years ago
    Genesis 1:31 was the end of the 6th day. God populated the earth with the various race`s and that included white,black,brown,all. On the 7th day He created Adam and Eve for the blood line that Christ would come through. If you also look at the word "life" in verse Genesis 1:20 the word can be translated to Souls and we know the orient has a beginning ahead of the rest of the world. Cain just took a wife outside the garden. We know who the tree of life is. God said let us make man in Our image after our likeness,He didn't leave Himself out. Do you think God would of sent us down here if He wouldn't come down Himself OUR? Who was there? His sons of course,as it is written in Hebrew,it`s "Elohim" that means God and His Children. Jesus said when you have seen the son you have seen the Father. In Isaiah 45:18 He created a beautiful earth for us in spiritual bodies. We were happy! Then in Revelation 12:4 satan stole a third of God`s children, stars. Revelation 12 is an outline of the Bible. Ezekiel 28 tells us satans pride took over in him and he tryed to steal the mercy seat,Throne of God. God got mad and in Jeremiah 4:22 and on tells us of the first flood. No Noah`s boat and family,no bird or twig left to flay and the waters in that flood didn't receed, it was Water Gone! That's why in 2nd Peter 3:5 to 7. In 6th that world that was overflowed with water Perished. But Peter says, this earth I'm standing on is kept in store,reserve unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. The 4th word in Genesis says "was" but its hayah#1961 in the Exhusted Strong`s Concordance and can only be translated in the Hebrew to "become" so it became without form and void, where as in Isaiah 45:18 God establish the earth and created Not in vain He formed it to be inhabited. The word in Genesis 1:28 REPLENISH.! 2nd time around. In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Love JESUS and you will make it. God bless you all that love our God and Saviour. Oh! Check Isaiah 45:21. Have a nice day.
  • Michael Perry on Genesis 6 - 14 years ago
    @justsomeguy151

    Once again I must assert that this verse is not referring to fallen angels. Take a look at the Book of Enoch as compared to the rest of the Holy Scriptures. The Holy Scriptures often repeat themselves, however the Book of Enoch mentions things that no other book even bothered to mention. It also uses words such as "Ages" and the "elect". When I read things like that, about the "lord of the ages" or how the "elect" will be blessed...well, let's just say that those words scream the illuminati.

    It is written: "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:24 KJV. Yet, the Book of Enoch says this "The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect ⌈⌈and⌉⌉ righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked ⌈⌈and godless⌉⌉ are to be removed."

    Open your mind for a minute and try to think why this book hasn't been accepted into the Canon. It's just like the rest of the Apocrypha - Vastly different from any other Canonical book.

    The Book of Enoch also makes references to several angels. Here are some angels of note: Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel. However, Michael and Gabriel are the only angels mentioned in Canonical text. Uriel and Raphael, however, are mentioned in the Apocrypha. Putting the Apocrypha aside, how can we be led to believe that Uriel and Raphael, if they were real angels, weren't even important enough to mention in the rest of the scriptures if they play such a huge role in this supposedly important book? And, remember that Michael is actually Jesus Christ, for the name Michael actually means "He who is like GOD", therefore the only angel mentioned by name in the Canonical texts is Gabriel.

    Also, you keep bringing up the existence of giants. I never argued against their existence. The Bible clearly states that they existed.

    The Bible also assert's that Enoch existed. I never said he didn't. I also never said he wasn't a prophet. But you can't take the ONE cross reference between The Book of Enoch and The Book of Jude and just jump to the conclusion that The Book of Enoch is a Holy Book and that the early church rejected it because they were either misinformed or they were trying to hide something from the people.

    You also make mention of Jude 1:6. How can one assume that Jude 1:6 is talking about the "fallen angels" from the Book of Enoch? Did you not forget that one-third of the angels in Heaven fell with Lucifer after they tried to stage a coup against the throne of GOD? I would assert that THESE are the angels that Jude is referencing here. It mentions this in Revelation 12:4 - "And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven, and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her child.”

    You also mentioned this: "all cultures have a version of the "gods came from the sky and gave us knowledge" stories. the aztecs, the egyptians, the mayans, native americans, the dogon..."

    Why should that make a difference? All of those civilization believed in pagan forms of worship, not Judaism or Christianity. What they believed has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion at all, nor does it have anything to do with the Bible.

    "as for the book of enoch being a lost book. in ethiopia it was never lost. they have had it since forever. so the book was NEVER lost."

    The Book of Enoch was considered to be a lost book for over 2000 years until 1773, when James Bruce returned from Ethiopia with three copies of it. Could it have existed for those 2000 years? Maybe. Did the church know about it or have it in their possession? No. Therefore it was lost to GOD's people.

    Enoch was a prophet, but he didn't write this book. It's nothing but a farce - something to take your mind away from the truth, from the way things truly are, the things that truly exist, and, most importantly, GOD.
  • Chosen Vessel of the Remaining Bride on Proverbs 8 - 14 years ago
    Please read and understand:

    There remains no excuse for those people who do not realize that God’s image is masculine and feminine. All of God’s creation generally declares the masculine and feminine image of Elohiym. It is clear that out of Adam came forth a female Adam who was genetically bone of his bones, flesh of his flesh (see Genesis 2:22-25). The masculine Adam and the feminine Eve reveal the image of the spiritual Father
    (Melchizedek) and Mother (Holy Spirit/El Shaddai/Shekinah). The removal of Adam’s rib to make a woman is a reflection of how Elohiym became masculine and feminine. Out of Adam came forth a female Adam (Eve) who was equal in all things. Adam was only perceptually first amongst his feminine equal, since Eve was always within Adam and is Adam. This same paradigm reflects the presence of Elohiym. Out of subatomic negative darkness of God the Father came the positive light of God the Mother (Holy Spirit), who are the atoms in all things. The Father (subatomic darkness) seemed to be first amongst equals. In the heavenly sense of the earthly parallel, the Holy Spirit, who came forth from the eternal subatomic darkness, always dwelt in the intangible eternal body. Accordingly, the eternal body of darkness became masculine (darkness) and feminine (light), just as Adam became genetically male and female. The feminine Holy Spirit has her reflection in the feminine part of creation. She is our heavenly and earthly Mother, whose greatest image is seen in the form of Eve. Our universal spiritual parents are Elohiym. Elohiym (Gods, plural) said, “Let US (God the spiritual Father and spiritual Mother) make man (Adam and Eve) in OUR image (masculine and feminine), after OUR likeness” (see Genesis 1:26, 27). This reveals how the invisible things of Elohiym are clearly revealed by the things they have recalled. Wisdom is personified as a woman in Proverbs 8:1. Wisdom is none other than the words of the feminine Holy Spirit. The feminine Holy Spirit is the Glory of the masculine part of Elohiym. God has possessed Wisdom (words/thoughts of the feminine Holy Spirit) from the very beginning of Elohiym’s ways (see Proverbs 8:22). Wisdom was set up (came forth) from everlasting (darkness of God). Thereby, Wisdom came out of God (everlasting), as Eve came out (Adam’s rib) of Adam (see Proverbs 8:23).

    The people of today who sin against Wisdom (Holy Spirit) by rejecting present truth have freely chosen to be forever lost (see Proverbs 8:36). When a person rejects present truth (this new doctrine), he or she is rejecting the latter-day words of Wisdom (Holy Spirit) and committing the unpardonable sin (see Matthew 12:31). To swallow an abomination is to believe that Elohiym is not masculine and feminine, as reflected through their greatest earthly image (Adam and Eve). Man and woman are the final reflection of Elohiym. There are three that bear record in heaven: the Father, the word (two-sided scroll of life), and the feminine Holy Ghost (Mother), as alluded to in 1 John 5:7. The Father being Melchizedek and the word being the Son and Daughter, then the Holy Ghost/Shekinah is the Mother. There can be no son or daughter without a father and mother. Accordingly, the Holy Spirit is the eternal Father’s feminine equal.

    Revelation 12:1: And there appeared a great wonder in
    HEAVEN; a WOMAN {image of the Holy Spirit} clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a CROWN {Queen of heaven} of twelve stars:
  • Michelle on Revelation 12:4 - 14 years ago
    I drempt of this scripture last night... Rev 12:4 I had no clue of what it was until I read it just now and I still don't understand why I it appeared in my dream all night.
  • Rhonda Hannah, Dotson on Revelation 12 - 14 years ago
    It is true


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