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Hi Peaches,

This mark will be freely taken, it will not be disguised and whoever takes it will know what they are doing, like you said who will you worship?

In Revelation 13:11-18 the second beast/the false prophet is the one who makes an image of the first beast, and forces people to receive this mark, and if not, they are killed. The mark of the beast is said to be diverse things, a literal mark, a computer chip, symbols, and more, something like this was done in the past.

It may be like the Decian persecution in 250 AD under Emperor Decius. The decree ordered sacrifices had to be performed in the presence of a Roman magistrate, it was a signed and witnessed certificate, issued to that effect. People had to perform a sacrifice to the Roman gods/image, or idol for the well-being of the Emperor. A great number of Christians were put to death for refusing to perform the sacrifices.

Many others apostatized (falling away) and performed the ceremonies, and others went into hiding. This picture language appears to identify those who had given either mental assent or extended the right hand of fellowship to this evil conglomerate power. These compromisers thus were able to prosper economically. By way of contrast, those who did not receive the mark were unable to go into the marketplaces and hence suffered hardship, illustrated in the form of economic deprivation.

Something like this could be the mark of the beast although I believe it will be an actual mark. Like the ones in the past who gave in and took the certificate so they would not be killed, one will give up eternal life for a few years in this corrupt world. If we are living when this starts, we must stand strong in our faith regardless of what we face, God will give us the strength.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Preacher of Truth

You asked: How does Satan deceive this whole world? Rev.12:9

Revelation was written in the first century of Christian Era, at that time the Devil had already deceived mankind for around 4000 years, even JESUS was tempted by the Devil I suppose in Neguev, but Satan still had not 7 heads; The 7 heads was still in the embryo.

But now, in this current time of Apocalypse, around 2000 years AC, the body of the Devil will be completed with 7 heads, and 10 horns, and 7 crowns upon his 7 heads.His new name now is red Dragon-Rev.12:9-,and his TAIL drew (shall cast down)the third part of the STARS of heaven to the earth.(STARS? who are the STARS? Job 38:4&7 combined with Daniel 12:3).

When the red Dragon-Rev.13:11-gives his POWER,and his Throne in Jerusalem,and great Authority to the Beast of sea, upon which rides de great whore-the Roman Catholic Church-then the holy city will be trodden by the Gentiles- Luke 21:24 combined with Rev.11:2, and he will join Catholicism and Judaism(iron and clay- Daniel 2), then the body of Satan/the Dragon will grow exceedingly, but it will grow even more with the adhesion of evangelical churches whose angels are fallen or spiritually dead, these will form or constitute the TAIL of the Dragon, these will believe in the false messiah, the Beast that will rise from the earth(Israel, the clay, the dry land), a false lamb, a false messiah- John 5:43-47 combined from Revelation 13:11, then the Red Dragon's body will be complete with his 7 heads, 10 horns and a TAIL. By the way, the origin of the false messiah is of the 10 tribs of Israel,especifically of the trib of Dan- Genesis 49:17.

He will exercise all the power of the first Beast before him,will cause the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first Beast(of sea)whose deadly wound was healed.

And he will do great wonders,so that will make fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,and will deceive them that dwell on the earth by the means of...

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Thanks David0921. We've already discussed Revelation 13:8 & Hebrews chap 4 & we've noted the different ways that we understand those passages. So, I'm not "ignoring or denying the efficacy of Christ's Atonement extending to the foundation of the world", but stating that the Atonement was not applied to those pre-Cross UNTIL the Sacrifice was made. Of course you cannot agree to this because you understand that Revelation 13:8 means that Christ's Death took place (maybe even mystically) before His actual coming to Earth. So this is where we're at.

So yes, 'no one in the OT could ever be saved nor could they ever keep God's Laws perfectly'. And that is why God instituted the sacrificial system, so that His people might still continue to live on Earth & still be accepted by Him, even receive His Forgiveness. If there was no sacrifice to appease & hide God's Wrath for sin & disobedience, then immediate death & consignment to Hell was certain. But they were kept in His Love & Care, looking forward to that glorious Day when the Lamb of God would far surpass any of their feeble temporary sacrifices & make atonement for their sins completely & forever. Hence, the 'holding station' of those righteous ones confined in Hades, pending the completion of the Work of the Cross, to which you also disagree. Onto Page 2.

Prof. Veith. In depth study of Revelation. In 1798, France recognized the United States of America as a world power. The 1st beast is the Vatican,and the 2nd beast is the United States of America;[ military & federal reserve ] There are 2 popes. The white is the Vatican which is visible to humanity. The Black pope is in the shadows,but visible if you know what to look for. [ symbols,numbers,astrology,gematria,ect ]. The black pope and his army are the jesuit order. When the C.I.A. and the F.B.I. were 1st established both men were trained jesuits. ALL secret society's, freemason's , knight's templer ,counsel on foreign relations,the buildeburg group,club of rome,scientology,moormans,ect..all whorship lucifier . But God. ALL those that are born again through the power of the Holy Ghost know that this is not our home. Lord Jesus come Quickly.........God Bless

More than opinion is revelation. Matthew 24 has in part been LITERALLY fulfilled. In the year 70AD, verses 1 and 2 were fulfilled with the destruction of the Temple of Jerusalem and the dispersion of the Jews throughout the world during 1878 years of severe plagues and curses, in addition to insufferable pain, according to Deuteronomy 28:15-68, 53 verses of strong and severe punishments.

Now, verses 3 to 8 are being fulfilled, the beginning of sorrows, and the decay of the Churches with the development of apostasies and iniquities-verses 9 to 14.

Then, the last week- Daniel 9:27- is about to start and with this event the persecutions of the first half of the week-42 months- Revelation 13:5- by the Beast of sea, culminating with the establishment of the Abomination of Desolation for 1,290 days in the second half of the week (plus 30 days)-verses 15 to 27 combined with Daniel 12:11 and 11:v.31. It is the END of this world and a sign of the coming of JESUS: Matthew 24:3 combined with Revelation 11:15-18. Blessed is he who waits and comes at 1335 days- Daniel 12:12 , 45 days after finishing the Abomination of Desolation. GET READY

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Thanks David0921. I'm sorry that I did not address the Scriptures you gave earlier as my comment would have been too long.

So to Revelation 13:8: "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world". I understand that the Lamb of God was to be the Sacrifice for mankind's sins, preordained/predestined even before the worlds were framed together. This verse's central point is that Jesus was brought forth as God's Lamb purely for the purpose of sacrificial death in demonstration of God's Love. Those who now under the Blood (OT & NT saints) are written in that Book of Life, otherwise referred to as the Lamb's Book of Life.

Mark 4:33,34 & Psalm 78:2: "parables". I understand that you equate the mention of 'parable' in these references as having the same meaning. That is not always the case. The parables that Jesus spoke were simple stories people could understand & relate to, but they pointed to the intended picture of the nature of God's Kingdom (which they could not comprehend).

The OT also had accounts given in a similar parable style (as in 2 Samuel 12:1-4; Isaiah 5:1-7; & others). But Psalm 78:2 you quoted (& in others), the Psalmist is not sharing just a story with a spiritual meaning, but some of the history of Israel which he hoped would stir the hearts & minds of his readers to learn from. So there is a difference in the meaning of 'parable', even as the Hebrew word, 'mashal' suggests, & Psalm 78:2 makes no suggestion to Jesus' use of such parables. To Page 2.

Chris,

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of THE LAMB SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.

Mark 4:33,34 And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it. But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.

Psalms 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

Chris,

The efficacy of Christ's payment for the sins of ALL whom He has saved or ever will save extends throughout the history of the world beginning from creation.

The Ceremonial Laws which Old Testament Israel were commanded to observe were "historical parables" designed to teach them, and us, about the nature of Salvation, the forgiveness of sins. Observance of these Ceremonial Laws did not save anyone. And apart from Salvation, there is no forgiveness of sins.

Old Testament Israel did not have the whole Bible as we do today; so there understanding of the Nature of Salvation would not have been nearly as complete as ours should be today. Although Jesus was critical of Nicodemus for not understanding that we must be "Born Again".

But God does not require an extensive knowledge of the Word of God to save because Salvation is 100% the Work of God Alone, i.e. Grace Alone. The Salvation of the 120,000 Ninevites who humbled themselves and repented of their wickedness at the preaching of Jonah is a beautiful example.

So once again, there is ONE AND ONLY ONE Salvation for anyone whom God saves throughout the history of the world. And that Salvation is by God's Grace Alone, apart from any obedience to the Law of God.

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Just because there is evil created from it doesn't mean for us not to use it for the Grace to the good for our lives and saving of Souls that's how we can talk we pray stand on the word and ask the Lord to cover us in his blood and partake not in there evil in Jesus name but to answe your question it you ask Google the question what does the king James Bible say about the evil use of AI it'll give scriptures for an answer Revelation 13:14-18 kjb

Hi Brother Carleton.

Thanks for replying.

Jesus didn't come to end the law and make it desolate. He came to fulfill the law and perfect it.

He came to end the Leviticus priesthood where they presented sacrifices that pointed to him.

( Matthew 5:17-18.)

They rejected their king "Which was prophesied" They made their own "HOUSE" desolate. ( A people without a King to set on David's throne )

What the Prince that shall come does is totally different,

In Daniel 9:27 he confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate.

This is the same thing mentioned in Daniel 12:11, (The abomination that maketh desolate.)

This is what Jesus is saying in Matthew 24:15, ( This can't be at the end of Christ ministry because he said it this abomination would be at the end of the world.)

This 3.5 period is called the GREAT tribulation and it's prophesied towards Daniels "THY PEOPLE, ISRAEL.) Daniel 9:24.

You see this played out in Revelation 12:6.

Let's look at who confirms the covenant for 1 week.

Daniel 9:26-27 reads "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: AND THE PEOPLE OF THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

AND HE SHALL CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease....

The Romans destroyed the Sanctuary, Jesus is not their prince.

Jesus didn't confirm this covenant and cause it to cease at his death.

Jesus death BEGINS a covenant!

The covenant in Daniel is a totally different covenant the Antichrist will confirm with Israel and cause the sacrifices to cease midway through the 70th week/Tribulations.

Revelation 13:15

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4.

God bless.

See pt2

Hi brother Giannis

Remember: the disciples questioned two things with JESUS: Matt. 24:3

1 - what shall be the SIGN of thy coming?

2 - and of the END of the world?

We cannot forget the prophetic message, and the warnings of our Lord JESUS, about the two above signs, as follow: Matt.24:4-8

1- Pre-tribulation Period - Beginning of sorrows

(My view: We are already living/ we already entered in this period. I'm awaked.

JESUS listed seven terrible events as the beginning of sorrows, and they are the signs of the END of the world, and JESUS's coming:What signs?

1- Appearance and manifestation of false Christs/false messiah ( John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11-a false lamb);

2- Wars and rumours of war ; (fulfilling LITERALLY);

3- nation shall rise against nation ; (in process / processing)

4- and kingdom against kingdom; (Kingdom of GOD X Kingdom of Devil - Rev.11:15 and 12:7-12- Take a look.) ;

5- famines ; (in process / it's processing)

6- pestilences ; (more recent - Coronavirus-COVID 19. Global cases

Updated Jul 18. confirmed 767,972,197 - deaths 6,950,642)

and

7- earthquakes in divers places. (more recent - Turkey)

JESUS said: 8-all these are the beginning of sorrows.

There will not be any gap between the period of sorrows(Pre-Tribulation)and the beginning of Tribulation, this will be sequential:

2 -THE BEGINNING OF THE TRIBULATION PERIOD

JESUS said: Matt.24:9-16

9 Then shall they(they whom?)deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise(false preachers of GOD's Word (sects, false movements gospel, dead churches-Rev.3:1,etc.)and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound(consequence of the apostate environment),the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall ENDURE unto the END,the same shall be saved

But the worst comes

Jimbob

You asked: Do Believers go through great tribulation?

Yes, they do. Get ready, it will be the last seven years of the Devil's world. It is very important to meditate on our last days of existence in this current system of this devilish world, not because we are going to die, quite the contrary, it is because we will live, we will be alive in these last seven years of the Devil's world, this last period of time of the current world are approaching.

The journey of all believers, prepared or no, for the last seven years, and for the last spiritual sufferings of terrestrial life, it will be similar to the departure of the Hebrew people from Egypt. By the way, there will be two BEASTS reigning in the Earth, one Gentile Beast and another Jewish, that is a false lamb, a false messiah, AN IMPOSTOR, as prophesied JESUS- John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11KJV. The 1st 42 months of the last seven years, it will be ruled by the FIRST Beast enthroned in Jerusalem by the false messiah as is written in Rev.13:2 and 5-KJV. The 2nd Beast -the false messiah-will rule the 2nd half of the last seven years. Get ready.

Daniel in his prophecy, warned, saying: Daniel 12:11-12KJV

11"From the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away (yes, it shall be taken away because there was a certain period of time to cease the sacrifice or be taken out of the way, the restraining, by the way, the sacrifice of JESUS have lasted until this current time or around 720.000 days, and now will cease) and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. JESUS warned us: Matthew 24:15-"When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)if not understand, it may complicate, it is what I think), after all it will be 1290 very tense days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days

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The true believer now can never deny the Lord, unlike those pre-Cross who without the Spirit's indwelling, had to be diligent & persevere to gain God's acceptance & salvation.

b. Revelation 13:8. "The Lamb slain before the foundation of the world", speaks to me that it was always in God's Plan that He would, in His Son, the Lamb of God, that He would be the perfect & only Sacrifice for the sins of mankind. Even before the worlds were framed together, Christ had to come & give His Life as a ransom, hence it speaks of an unalterable fact that the Lamb Who was physically slain at Calvary was already planned for death before that time & that when His death took place, His shed Blood would apply to all who turned to the Lord from the time of creation till the final judgement. But until that Blood was shed, the OT folk could only await their salvation (being held in paradise) until 'it is finished' was Jesus' Cry.

c. Election & Predestination. Yes, these terms are applicable to all people in all history, whether to those who would turn to & belong to the Lord & those who reject the Lord, all according to God's Foreknowledge. I believe this 'Foreknowledge' is important here as it tells us that God already knew the path we would take & so He directs our lives accordingly to him or not. I don't see God's determination as just a random selection of individuals; but that all people will know that they are accepted or rejected according to the conduct of their lives & not by any appeal to God for salvation but still being rejected. 1 Peter 1:2, if the Elect are predestined according to God's foreknowledge, I think it's reasonable to believe that the non-elect are likewise rejected, because of it.

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Questions

When did Christ, eternal God Himself, the Lamb of God, complete the payment required for the sins of every True Believer, those whom God would save throughout time?

When was Christ, eternal God Himself, the "Son of God", eternal God Himself Begotten of the Father, eternal God Himself?

Is there any difference in God's Salvation of Old Testament Believers versus New Testament Believers?

How does what we read in Revelation 13:8 that Christ is "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" and Hebrews 4:4 "For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did REST the seventh day from ALL his works."influence our understanding about these questions?

My purpose in raising these questions is the Hope that God might cause us all to search the scriptures afresh regarding God's Judgment and Salvation plan for mankind, praying constantly that God Himself would open our understanding and lead us into truth.

Hi Brother Ronald.

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Sorry for such a delay. In Daniel 9:25 "Messiah the Prince"

What I was saying is it actually SAYS Messiah the king.

I didn't mean to say it's translated king from prince.

On Daniel 9:24-25. I agree with you when you say "These 6 things were determined upon Daniel's people, the lost sheep of Israel, and the holy city, Jerusalem. That's true!

Now here is where we disagree on Daniel 9:24-25. Seventy weeks are determined "UPON THY PEOPLE and upon thy holy city, DANIELS PEOPLE!

These six things wasn't accomplished for Daniels people at the cross because"Daniels people" rejected Jesus as savior.

Daniels people transgression and sin is specific.

They denied their king and savior who came at the appointed time!

This is what Hosea 5:15 is talking about.

"I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.

This is also what Jesus is saying in Matthew 23:39. "For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord".

Of course they saw him again.

What Jesus is saying here is they won't behold him as a nation again until they say blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord!

That affliction will come in the 70th week.

When they turn to him then will those 6 things for "Daniels people" be accomplished.

Here is what I have as the middle of the 70th week. Revelation 13:4-5 "And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months".

In Matthew 24:3 When Jesus pointed his Desciples to Daniel 9 he was answering 2 of the 3 questions they asked him. "and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and the end of the world.

See pt 2.

Greetings in Christ JESUS, Alex

Good question: Why wd this woman keep the commandments when she has the testimony of Jesus.

First, the testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy. She is clothed with the Sun, the Greater Light , sent in the fourth Day or around 4000 years after Adam, that is JESUS. JESUS said:My Father worketh hitherto, and I work- John 5:17KJV. I and my Father are One- John 10:30. Under her feet the Lesser light, the Holy Spirit, also sent in the fourth Day, gives her sustention / sustenance, furthermore, the woman is already crowned under the doctrine of the twelve Apostles chosen by our Lord JESUS.

Yes, the dragon (the man of sin, son of perdition, the Beast of the earth- Revelation 13:11 combined with 2Thes. 2) was (will be) wroth/wrath with the woman, he will persecute the woman which brought forth the MAN child -the ancient of days - the Lesser Light - and to the woman is given two wings of a great eagle -the OT and the NT -, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished - nourished by the OT and NT, the commandments and testimony of JESUS -, for a time, and times, and half a time (42 months), from the face of the serpent- Revelation 12:14KJV.

And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth(earth here is the clay- Isaiah 64:8, the dry land) helped the woman(will be 144K???), and the earth(Jewish believers) opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon (a strong DELUSION that will be sent by GOD-2Thes.2:11-12 combined with Revelation 13:11-18) cast out of his mouth.

Let us get ready, it is midnight, the bridegroom comes; let us go out to meet Him, all of us need to arise and trimmed our lamps. But wait, only lamp is not enough to walk now, it's necessary / essential to have oil, otherwise, the lamp will go out, but at midnight? in full darkness and nocturnal terrors?

Be careful

God is in complete control of everything. Jesus Christ has all power and authority in heaven and in earth.

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.

The Jews, God's chosen people killed Jesus for several reasons. They were blinded so that Jesus could be crucified and we could be saved.

Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy

It was god's will for them to be blinded so we the gentiles could obtain salvation. It was god's plan before he created the world.

Revelation 13:8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

As far as god's name. He has many different names in many different tongues. Jesus Christ is good enough for me. Once you receive Jesus Christ as your personal savior you will receive his spirit... the holy spirit into your heart or soul.

Lucifer is the god of this world. He has been given authority down here and his job is to kill, steal, and destroy. He is a liar and the father of lies and a murderer. God gives people a choice... Choose him which is the way, the truth, and the life and the only way to father Abba or you can choose the devil receive an unclean spirit and eternal damnation in the lake of fire. I choose New Jerusalem and eternity to bask in the glory of the only one true and beautiful and glorious god. In heaven you will feel the love of god's spirit radiating through you for eternity. You won't hunger, thirst, have any knowledge of sin. You will be glorified with Christ and become one with god in paradise. Everything will be made new including you. I would not study anything to do with freemasonry or secret societies or anything that the enemy's side does. It is a shame to even mention the things they do in secret.

JESUS said to the Jews: John 5:43-47KJV:

43 - I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER(AN IMPOSTER - Who's is him?) shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Paul apostle prophesied about that IMPOSTOR, saying - 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 and 9 :

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, (See Revelation 13:11-14)

John 1:11KJV - JESUS came unto His own, and His own received Him not.

Philippians 2:6 - 6 Who, being in the form of GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with GOD:

May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection

Amen

Brother Adam:

What is man SAVED from?

The wages of SIN is DEATH.

What is SIN?

Psalms 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.

Hebrews 10:16 And this is the covenant I will make with them, after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my LAWS in their hearts, and in their minds I will write them:

Hebrews 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

So what is the SIN that results in death.

James 2:7 Do they not blaspheme thy Holy NAME by which ye are called?

Revelation 13:6 And he open his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme HIS NAME ....

John 16:8 And when HE (the Holy Ghost) is COME, he (the Holy Ghost) will reprove the world of SIN ....

So what is SIN that leads to death? ....blasphemy of the Holy Ghost by whose NAME ye are CALLED.

Acts 2:38 .....REPENT (of your beliefs) and be baptised in the NAME of Jesus ......

John 16:9 Of SIN because the BELIEVE not on me (the promised SEED of God), the ROD that CAUSES man to do the WILL of God.

Man does't BELIEVE that Christ came as SINFUL FLESH (you and I and all creation): and DIED on the cross.

Three days later Christ ONLY arose; and all creation were joint heirs with Christ's resurrection, all creation bears the NAME of Christ, because they were made ONE with Christ, blaspheming that name leads to DEATH.

The whole world is DEAD in sin (UNBELIEF).

God bless you

Ronald.

Part 2.

This section I will go back to Daniel 2, Daniel 7 and Daniel 9.

In these chapters notice the consistency in the players involved. "The beast, little horn, Prince of the people that shall come being one of them. We will trace this character back to revelation.

Daniel 2:32-45 Daniel interprets King Nebuchadnezzars dream, this is the history of the reign of the Gentiles nations from man's viewpoint with the metal images mixed with clay. ( BABYLON, MADO-PERSIA, GREECE, ROME.)

In Daniel 7 we see the same material presented differently.

You see the same material as a series of beast. This is a vision from Gods viewpoint.

Revelation 13:1-4 connects the beast in Daniel 7 to the Antichrist.

In Daniel 2;35-44 we see Christ destroy 4th and final kingdom and its ruler and set up his own everlasting kingdom.

( Daniel 2:44.) And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

( Also see Daniel 7:14.)

This haven't happened yet, and it didn't happen at the cross.

There's still not a kingdom or a King in Israel as described throughout the OT. And there is NO peace!

When studying these chapters, we see the little horn/beast rises out of these 10 horns/kingdoms.

Daniel 7:8-13 describes the end of this last and present empire.

Revelation 19:19 amplifies. that. Hasn't happened yet.

CONCERNING THE SACRIFICES.

There will be sacrifices in the kingdom. Isaiah 56:6-8. Zechariah 14:16. Jeremiah 33:15-18. Ezekiel 43:18. Ezekiel 46:24. Ezekiel 40:1-49.

Sacrifices never took away sins.

The sacrifices in the OT pointed forward to one who would come and take away sins and the sacrifices in the Kingdom will point backwards to the one who came and took away sins.

The Antichrist will present himself as Christ and the start of the expected Kingdom.

God bless.

Ronald

I agree The word confirm does not mean make, it shows us the covenant already existed.

However that fits the antichrist and his mission. Anti here means "instead of" and it can also mean against.

The Jews is still looking for their Messiah till this day and that's the primary role of the Antichrist.

Jesus hints at this in John 5:43.

So let's parallel the notion with other scriptures concerning him.

2 Thessalonians 2:4

"Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Revelation 13:8-12.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

If any man have an ear, let him hear.

He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

These verses along with Daniel 9 emphasizes deception by the Antichrist.

Goodnight brother.

Mark of Cain vs Mark of the Beast

According to Genesis 4:15; a mark set upon Cain was to cause vengeance to anyone who would attempt to take his life. Compare this to the Mark of the Beast in Revelation 13 and we find some interesting parallels.

First; Satan was a "murderer from the beginning." ( John 8:44). It is no surprise that the first child of Adam was to be attacked after Adam and Eve fell. Having failed the test of God he let temptation rule over him and slayed Abel his brother. Satan is also said to steal and destroy ( John 10:10) along with his lying. We see the progeny of Adam and Eve being destroyed; along with stealing from the parents being able to give an inheritance and Abel receiving it.

Later on in Genesis 4:24 Lamech tries to gain vengeance by his declaration of seventy times seventy for himself for his own violent actions. Kind of like the opposite of forgiveness for the same in Matthew 18:21-22.

The apparent resurrection of Antichrist from a deadly wound as well as being able to kill the two prophets that tormented men will inspire him to declare indestructibility as well as being able to effectively fight against God. He will likely convince men that he can live forever by merging with AI; and likely the DNA of the Nephilim or something to that affect will be part of that plan; as it was in Genesis 6 when all the descendants of men were destroyed for that reason (see Genesis 6:8-9 on Noah being perfect in his generations). Hence at that time we saw no repentance except for Noah; his wife; his 3 sons and their wives.

Whatever the case men will be unredeemable once they take the mark ( Revelation 14:9 and other passages). That will be the fulfillment of 2 Thessalonians 2:11 where people willingly reject the truth and believe The Lie.

The verse on those who dwell on the earth ( Revelation 11:10; also see Revelation 6:10 and other passages) indicates the sea of lost humanity. Revelation 13:8 concludes this for all unsaved.

The statement you have made has some truths and some false . I fear your mixing scripture truths with your false interpretation. We must be very careful when ministering, not to give false statements.

With all my heart I would advise everyone to stop listening to the words and interpretation of man, Trust and seek god, Pray and study his word for yourself.

If you truly desire him and seek him out he will draw close to you and reveal the truth of his word to you.

This is why he sent the comforter (Holy ghost)back after he (Jesus) ascended to heaven.

To teach you , guide you help you in all ways.

To show you his truth.

When we recieve the baptism of the Holy ghost , we are no longer under the teaching of men.

But we are taught by the Holy ghost (spirit of God)

Please don't put your trust in man. Put your trust in god and he will teach you.

Also , you dont have to believe what I have written. I would prefer that you search out for yourselves

what I have said , and if it lines up with the scriptures .

I pray the lords peace and grace

Be upon you always.

Regardless if you believe in God or not, read this message!



All throughout time, we can see how we have been slowly conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that Jesus foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In Revelation 13:16-18, we read,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why's that? Revelation 13:17 states that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it comes together. It is shocking how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. These are notes from a man named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the peoples of the world-a

Whether you believe in God or not, read this message!



Throughout history, we can see how we have been strategically conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that the Bible foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, we will read,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 states that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it comes together. It is amazing how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here are notes from someone named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the peoples of

Whether or not you believe in God, this message is a "must-read"!!!



All throughout time, we can see how we have been slowly conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that the Bible foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In Revelation 13:16-18, it states,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 tells us that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it comes together. It is shocking how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. These are notes from a man named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the peoples of the w

Regardless if you believe in God or not, this message is a "must-read"!



All throughout time, we can see how we have been strategically conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that Jesus foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, we will read,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 states that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it really starts to come together. It is incredible how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here is information from a man named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identi

Thanks Jimbob. The narrative on the anti-Christ in The Revelation has received different interpretations - of which I'm not quite certain which one is best.

Using the Scriptures you've shared, I tend to understand it in this way:

a. Revelation chapter 12 is clearly referring to Satan & his dealings with Israel. I realize that some understand that the 'woman clothed with the sun' is the 'Church', but I don't share this view in light of the passage.

b. Revelation chapter 13. Unlike Satan (the dragon), a beast now arises from the sea. Because of the complex attributes of this beast, it can't represent a single person/entity. Rather, I interpret verse 1 as that of the satanic power that resided within the world's great powers (verse 1: seven heads, ten horns, ten crowns are explained in Revelation 17:8-14), and these exhibit the evil emanating from Satan, culminating in the anti-Christ.

c. Revelation 13:3: one of the beast's heads which was wounded to death & then healed, seems to be the last empire, of Rome, that is for now dead, but will one day revive in the person of the Anti-Christ. So my understanding that it isn't anti-Christ that is wounded & revived, but the Roman Empire, from which he arises. What form this empire takes one can only guess, with other nations in league with her.

d. Revelation 12:9: Satan is indeed "cast out into the earth with his angels", but Revelation 13:1 are the satanic empires of which anti-Christ will emerge ( Daniel 7:7,8 gives us view of this - particularly v8: "the little hornlike the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things").

e. Revelation 13:11: I attribute to the rising of the false prophet, exercising the power of the first beast, doing miracles, making & giving life to anti-Christ's image, killing the disobedient, & requiring the mark of anti-Christ upon all. Here is the unholy Trinity: Satan, the anti-Christ (the healed & restored head of the devilish empires that arose in history), & the false prophet.

Whether or not you believe in God, this message is a "must-read"!!!



All throughout time, we can see how we have been strategically conditioned to come to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that Jesus foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, it states,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 says that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it comes together. It is shocking how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here are notes from a man named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the peopl

Regardless if you believe in God or not, this is a "must-read" message!



Throughout history, we can see how we have been carefully conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that Jesus foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, we read,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why's that? Revelation 13:17 states that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it comes together. It is shocking how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. These are notes from a man named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the pe

Regardless if you believe in God or not, read this message!



Throughout time, we can see how we have been slowly conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that the Bible foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, we will read,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Referring to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why's that? Revelation 13:17 states that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it comes together. It is incredible how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here is information from someone named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the pe