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It seems clear to me now that the Vatican City in Italy is the city did that mystery Babylon dwells in. This is significant today because there is reports that the special forces of the United States took out the lights and Vatican City after thet Capitol Hill laptops were confiscated on January 6th 2020.

Mystery Babylon is all over the world and it's spirit is preventing people from coming to the knowledge of the truth.

I am so vigilant to prt that comes from this wicked and evil city comes from this wicked and evil city it stopped.

Teil 2

This is the image of the beast (that great city), who like Babylon of antiquity, who thinks to usurp church and state craft.

The number eight is a metaphor for the resurrection. The eighth is resurrected from a former head of the seven; the 5th head that received a deadly wound.

(When he shall go into perdition: this will be the final dispensation of this beast with seven heads, that is a metaphor for satan.)

Jesus;

(The resurrection; Jn 11:25) /Isous = 888

by counting the letter values of the Greek transliteration;

I(10), E(8), S(200), O(70), U(400), S(200).

In antiquity the mountain was not only a metaphor for a kingdom, but it was also symbolic of the head of a (river) dragon that was symbolic of a river that flows out from a mountain, after the spring thaw and overflowing its banks, spreading out in the form of the dragon's tail.

The color is scarlet because it is symbolic of the blood of the saints of the Lord.

A woman in prophecy is always a metaphor for a church, in this case (Jezebel) it is the fallen temple of God.

The false prophet, a lamb (Christ like) with two horns, and/but will speak like a dragon (a wolf in sheep's clothing), will be the beast (from out of the earth ... the USA) that will make an image unto the first beast from out of the sea, who received a deadly wound and his deadly wound was healed.

The two horns are a metaphor for two (equal) kingdoms in one, church and state craft.

Medo-Persia also is expressed as having two horns [ Dan 8:3], but one was higher, (Persia) and eventually usurps the other.

This is the image of the first beast from out of the sea (Papal Rome). Once the wall of separation of church and state is lost, then will the second beast from out of the earth become the image of the first beast, who claims the authority of both church and state.

In conclusion, when the wall of separation of church and state is lost, then so too will the blessing that came with this separation be lost.

MYSTERY BABYLON

The seven headed beast of Revelation 17:

"Here is the mind which has wisdom"

The heads are symbolic of seven kingdoms, starting with the beast of Daniel 7;

1st < Babylon

2nd < Medo-Persia

3rd < Greece

4th < Pagan Rome

5th < Papal Rome; the little horn

("that was" & "is not" & "yet is")

6th < "one is"

The woman that rides the beast is in captivity at the time of John's vision, AFTER receiving the deadly wound from the (atheist) beast from the bottomless pit [ Rev 11:7]. This is the beast of THE TIME AND PLACE of John's vision IN THE WILDERNESS.

(Meaning that John is in the wilderness in his vision and not physical on Patmos, and he sees a beast that would come up from out of this wilderness. Read Job 38:26.)

7th < "is not yet come"

At the time of John's vision in the wilderness, this head of the beast was yet to come; this is the beast from out of the earth [ Rev 13:11];

(And he shall exercise all of the power of the first beast...) when this beast will speak like a dragon.



This beast must continue a short time, as per the others before him.

I believe by the testimony of Jesus, that we are now living in that "short time".

The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

{ Revelation 17:8}

:11...even he is the eighth, AND IS OF THE SEVEN, and ascends out of the bottomless pit and goes into perdition.

--There are seven heads at the time of John's vision, five kings/heads/beast are fallen, so this eighth is of the five kingdoms...."that was"...."and is not"...."yet is" AND received a deadly wound; AND his deadly wound was healed.

This wound is the loss of her (the woman/church that rides the beast.) temporal sword (also her captivity), which is the earthly secular world kingdom.

There's a compact list here that will answer your question. You'll have to ask your Pastor which ones your Church observes. Most all of them I think. Mothering Sunday is known as Mother's Day.

Bolton.ac.uk

The "Feast Days" are Jewish remembrance Feasts that they were required to adhere to. These feasts were meant to bring back to memory what the LORD God had done for them during their history. Had the Jews recognized their Messiah & turned from their sins through faith in Him, then those Feast Days would hold no more significance, other than just historical events. Those Feasts looked forward to Jesus Christ Who was their fulfilment.

So the believer (both Jew & Gentile) do not "keep the Feast Days" as their purpose has already been accomplished through the Lord Jesus. The Lord's Supper is strictly a memorial 'feast' in remembrance of the Lord's death & resurrection. Though this "Supper" has no direct connection to the purpose of the Jewish Feasts, it is in a sense, a Christian feast that is celebrated whenever we choose to do so, rather than at a specific time of the year (as with the Jewish Feasts). The Jewish Feast looked forward to the coming Messiah & His Sacrifice - the Lord's Supper looks backward to all that the Messiah has done for us at the Cross.

Do we need to keep the feast days? The Lord's super has replace the feast days?

They are confused and lack spiritual discernment. Even the pope and other "New World Order" types (globalists) are in favor of a Biden presidency, instead of Trump - who is a thorn in their side.

I've heard some Christians say they plan to vote for a candidate that promotes mass-murder (abortion). Does anyone have any moral justification for voting for and supporting mass murder?

I appreciate the way you interpret the beast system and their powers. But what are the two rising power of Rev 13:1-10 and 13:11-18? what is the image of that beast? how and in which way are they going to tag world population with mark? many thanks.

The Mystery Babylon IS the Main Stream Media

My understanding is that the little horn is Antichrist. I'm studying Daniel right now.

Scripture speaks that in the end days knowledge will be increased. Let's pray for the Holy Spirit to teach us the truth of these things.

Thank you, Who or what is the little horn? It is mentioned along the way but not exactly listed with the ten horns.

Thanks again.

Sally Berry

I agree Malachi Martin, certainly was a devout man and exposed the evil within the Catholic church in his writings. Thanks for your comment. I appreciate it and it reminds me of Malachi's writings.

To Carleton,

We grew up Roman Catholic. I grew up in a family of nine children and studied for the priesthood and was very active in the church till the time of our conversion. Was an extraordinary minister, lay reader, member of the choir. we were leaders of the marriage preparation course, day of enrichment, cursillo movement, etc.

We self-published the book 'A World Deceived' in 2015 and invested 20k but the first two distributors went bankrupt and since 2018 we have had no distribution. Our communication to the world is strictly through our website. Will mail copies of the book upon request.

Please note that in over 34 years of service we have never collected/received, solicited or requested donations. The gift of 'Life' was freely given and freely do we give to all those that believe ( 2 Kings 5:16; Matthew 6:26; 10:8).

God started to reveal Himself in 1984 and taught us in all things. The gospel we preach is not after man. For we neither received it of man, neither were we taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ ( Gal. 1:12). The gospel we preach and the preaching of Christ is according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began ( Romans 16:25).

One of the first deep hidden mysteries God revealed to us was the Mystery Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth ( Revelation 17:5), which during the last forty years has been clearly exposed. You yourself would be surprised of its identity but during your journey of repentance God would reveal all things, for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid that shall not be known ( Matthew 10:26).

The word 'repent' used in the New Testament was translated from the Greek word "metanoeo", and means to change, transform, to think differently or reconsider. It actually means the changing of spirits - to turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God ( Acts 26:18).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Pray over everything@ Armor up every day

I heard last night that foreign countries OWN over 50 MILLION acres of American farmland. They can ship the food back to their own countries; not here.

Their farmlands are contaminated with pandemic substances. Who really knows.

They sell their home grown food to us. And ship US Grown food to their country. President Trump has sanctioned against the importing of Chinese meat into our country. What happens if the White House turns Blue in November??

Our Country is being ruined by Big Business, Crooked Politicians and run by people with no souls. China exports food to all countries! I've been boycotting Walmart :/. Big help that is huh?

I watched a PBS rescue show about how the Chinese are serving up Turtles in their fancy restaurants; with smuggled Pangolin meats: that can carry Corona Virus!! How sick is that? I wonder if our meat inspectors check that meat?

There are stories on Google about how meat is being SMUGGLED into this country. It's been going on for years. I wish I didn't read those stories....it's bigger than what I've said.

Maybe we should make Congress have them stamp all the products with country of origin?

Everybody just really pray over your food. Ask the Lord to "bless and sanctify it; make it holy for us to consume; and our babies. Pets too. Amen.

Jesus said except He Return and take us with Him, no life would be saved. We gotta trust Jesus with this. It makes me happy that we can put our Trust in God.

Mishael

I have to agree with Thelma Parker that Jerusalem is MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS. Jerusalem will be the seat of the Anti-christs government. Much of Revelation speaks of the last 3 1/2 years of the Anti-christ's seven year seven year covenant and the second coming of Jesus. THE GREAT CITY or THAT GREAT CITY is the key to understand who MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS is. THE GREAT CITY or THAT GREAT CITY is mentioned 11 times in the Book of Revelation: Rev 11:13, Rev 11:8, Rev 14:8, Rev 16:19, Rev 17:18, Rev 18:10, Rev 18:16, Rev 18:18, Rev 18:19, Rev 18:21, Rev 21:10.These verses can only be speaking of one GREAT CITY. Rev 11:8 says it is where our Lord was crucified. This is definitely Jerusalem. Rev 18:21 calls Babylon THAT GREAT CITY. In Rev 21:10, John is shown THAT GREAT CITY, the holy Jerusalem, the new Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God. Read all 11 verses listed above to see what happens to Jerusalem known as Babylon, the seat of the Anti-christ's government. Also search on line for Catholic Arch Bishop Malachy prophesy that the Pope will be the False Prophet... Cecil Gary

Revelation 17:5

Please review the spiritual truth and the history of 'The Mystery Babylon and Mother of Harlots' on a world deceived.ca

Lora, CONCERNING THE WORD "MYSTERY"

I agree with you, the mystery of God is complex.

I do not agree with you concerning the "mystery of godliness" as it pertains to Scripture you provided, being God Himself. I believe it concerns the Son of God being born of woman ( Isaiah 7:14). Jesus is the One spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:16 and the One promised in Genesis 3:15

I agree with you, Jesus is the way to salvation.

I, however, must disagree with you that God is Jesus and Jesus is God, and again will state that I believe Jesus never came claiming to be His Father.

Jesus came as the personification of the Words of the Father John 1:1-2); and His authority came from the Father; and He lost none of His Father's sheep ( John 17:12)

But Jesus is not the Father.

The word mystery only occurs in the New Testament.

The word "mystery" is the Greek word "musterion" and basically means a "secret."

There is more than one "mystery" spoken of in Scripture.

There is the mystery concerning the DURATION of time of the blindness of Israel ( Isaiah 6:9-10, Romans 11:25).

There is the mystery concerning the kingdom of God which was revealed in parables to the general public, but explained to the 12 Apostles; ( Matthew 13:10-11, 1 Peter 1:10-12)

There is the mystery concerning the fact that "we shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed" ( John 11:25-26, 1 Corinthians 15:51, also look at Philippians 3:14, 1 Thessalonians 4:15, Hebrews 9:27)

There is the mystery of iniquity and lawlessness that is connected to MYSTERY BABYLON of Revelation 17:5-7, (look at Daniel 8:23, Daniel 12:4, Matthew 22:4, Acts 2:38, 2 Thessalonians 2:7)

There is the great mystery or secret concerning the Gentiles being co-heirs in the body of Christ, which was only revealed after the second rejection the King and the Kingdom by the Jews in Acts 28:17-31. This is the secret that was kept secret since the world began and what is being spoken of in Romans 16:25-26, Ephesians 3:1-12, and Colossians 1:24-27.

Revelation 17:10 is all about Papacy. Seven kings are 7 generic names comes after 1798, ie Pius, Leo, Gregory, Benedict, John, Paul, John & Paul. Protestant church fathers always proclaimed that papacy is antichrist system bearing the number 666.All popes are numbered. Thus in the generic name of pius 12 popes reigned and its total is 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9/+10+11+12=78.Like wise Leo- 13 popes =91, gregory 16popes=136, benedict 14 popes =105, john 21 popes =231, paul 6 popes=21, john paul 2 popes=3. And altogether the count is 665 with john paul ii. 8th was benedict 16 and then count became 665+16=681.Benedict resigned and the count returned to 681- 16 = 665. Francis is a new papal name so count is 1.Thus his total count is 665+1=666. From these above we can see that john paul reigned for a short space. Generic count completed by death (fall)of the pope. Rev. 17 :11- And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eight, and is of the seven, and goeth in to perdition. And the eight is pope francis. Catholic bishop st malachy's prophecy confirm this. Francis pope is petrus romanus. The malachy prophecy also predicts that our Lord Jesus will return in that time of his reign. So our Lord Jesus is coming very very soon. Much sooner than we think. Popes are kings because they rule the kingdom of vatican. Beast is referred as political &religious head. Napoleon captured pope pius during 1798 and papacy wounded by sword. Papacy reigned from AD- 538 to 1798 continuously for 1260years.

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Revelations 7:10 (KJV)

1. Who are the five fallen kings?

2. What is the meaning of kings with no kingdom?

Genesis 1:6 KJV

(6) And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

The "firmament" or "expanse" is a metaphor about the opening of the hearing ear and the "waters" are people ( Revelation 17:15).

The hearing of the Word of Truth from Heaven among many people divides them: the believers from the unbelievers.

Even the word for "ear" in Hebrew (ozen) means "broadness, to expand".

Job 36:10 KJV

(10) He openeth also their ear to discipline, and commandeth that they return from iniquity.

God opens up our ears to His knowledge that is sent from Heaven via the Spirit. The "firmament" is called "Heaven" for what we hear is from there. Jesus said often: he that has an ear, let him hear

Revelation 3:6 KJV

(6) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

The good news is reported unto us with Holy Spirit is sent down from Heaven

1 Peter 1:12 KJV

(12) Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

Jesus healed the deaf man by looking into Heaven as He opened up his ears. The "firmament" or expanse is the opening up of our ears to God's knowledge from Heaven.

Mark 7:33-34 KJV

(33) And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue;

(34) And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened.

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word/Saying of God who said "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." The "waters" above the Heaven believe upon what they hear while those waters under do not believe. The "firmament" is firm and supports the waters above as they believe in what they hear.

James,

The book of Revelation is the Revelation of Jesus Christ. It speaks of end-time events and the coming judgment, but also gives us a picture of our Lord Jesus Christ coming in glory. As far as what's going on in our country (U.S.), I see a lot of evil, but that is going on all over the world. The things happening here do not fit into the book of Revelation as far as end-time prophecy is concerned. All end-time prophecy centers around the nation of Israel, not the United States.

Revelation 17:5 mentions the phrase "Mystery, Babylon the Great." In Revelation, Babylon is cryptically known as Rome. Chapter 17 gives us the description of the destruction of Babylon which was shown to the apostle John. It describes this woman who is riding the beast. She is called the great whore that sits upon many waters.

In Revelation 17:6, John sees the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. For many centuries, Rome, under the direction of the papacy tortured, burned, and slaughtered many Christians.

Revelation 17:9 gives us the location of this woman who rides the beast. It's a city that sits on seven hills or mountains. Rome is the only city on this earth that sits on seven hills. John is shown the mystery of this woman, Babylon the great, and her future destruction in Revelation 17:16.

The beast is only going to allow the religious system, the prophet, to ride this beast for so long. And the ten nations are going to give their allegiance to this woman. But when the antichrist is through with her, then he's going to turn against her, as well as the kings because they're going to be on his side, and she's going to be destroyed, this religious system.

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

The whore that sits on many WATERS

Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The WATERS waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. ( are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.)

...... Revelation 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

babylon was responsible for the BLOOD of PROPHETS, keep this in mind.

Revelation 16:6 - For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

Revelation 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Mystery Babylon killed the prophets

Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. I do not see Rome here since when did the Lord send prophets to Rome?

Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

the two witnesses of God who confront the false prophet are mentioned here:

Revelation 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jesus, MY LORD was crucified in JERUSALEM, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

NOT in Rome nor in Mecca nor in the USA

...... Rev 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Rev 16:6 - For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

Rev 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Mystery Babylon killed the prophets

Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem. for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

the two witnesses of God are mentioned here:

Rev 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jesus, MY LORD was crucified in JERUSALEM, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt. NOT Rome or in Mecca or the USA

Jerusalem killed the prophets, not Rome, and since babylon killed the prophets = Jerusalem

Ezekiel 16:2 - Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,

Malachi 2:11 - Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.

You are so right in your assessment of what this woman represents.

I would encourage others to read the history of Catholicism from it's conception.

Also note the the comments the Pope of today has made and is promoting.

The whore that sits on many WATERS

Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The WATERS waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. ( are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.)

...... Revelation 18:24 - And in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

babylon was responsible for the BLOOD of PROPHETS.

Revelation 16:6 - For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

Revelation 17:6 - And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Mystery Babylon killed the prophets

Jesus speaking Luke 13:33 - Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

Jesus - Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

the two witnesses of God are mentioned here:

Revelation 11:8 - And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jesus, MY LORD was crucified in JERUSALEM, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt.

NOT Rome nor in Mecca or the USA

i have been praying for this day to come