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Fonz - Of course v. 4 is speaking of heaven; the NEW heaven 'n earth, not this one. Because v. 1 refers to a new heaven and earth - we just refer to the whole of it as heaven.

In the verse it says "death will be no more"... Obviously it isn't talking about heaven because there is no death in heaven.it speaks about a new Paradise earth.

Lu2677: For God hath not given us The Spirit of "Fear";but of power,and of love and of a sound mind. 2Timothy1:7 / But the "Fearful",and unbelieving---- and idolaters and all liars,shall have their part in The Lake which burneth with Fire and Brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8 / Fear says one needs a Savior! / Let us---come boldly unto The Throne of Grace---. Hebrews 4:16

God is real and loving come to God for he has made Jesus our Savior

One of my favorite passages is Revelation 21:7. For myself, as saved by the blood of Jesus Christ, this is a three-fold promise: 1) I will inherit all things. 2) God will be my God. 3) I will be God's son.

This is for eternity. What an amazing thought. If it were able, even time itself would not be able to keep up with God's love to us.

When the Lord will come in all his glory, He will restore all his people, all his children which love him and believe him. We shall no more be weak, but stronger.The pains, the difficult time we live shall no more have power against us. Jesus will transfer us in his peaceful city: The new Jerusalem, where we shall be comforted, Revelation 21:4.we shall no more be the same, but the new beings which will clothe immortality with The Lord Jesus to a pleasant life forever in the celestial place. That was what Isaiah predicts in the first time. This must encourage us to bind ourself to the Lord, that this prediction be our reward and have his accomplishment in our life. Tell to all men and women to be for the Lord, believing Jesus. Let the Lord bless You. Amen !

Right on LaVonne!!!

People need to quit worrying about when the dead will rise and before or after this 'n that - and look to their own salvation.

Hi LaVonne Re: Pat, I can understand why you might have reason to think these things described have not 'really' happened yet, but what about at the very start of the book where we are told they must shortly come to pass? Also, I don't think you are considering the sort of literature this is, it's apocalyptic. The book is often referred to as the Apocalypse of St. John.

Hi Pat, All believers-saved mankind will be in the first resurrection. The rest of the dead will be
raised after the 1,000 years are finished. Saved mankind from the first resurrection will reign
with Christ for that 1,000 years. Rev 20:5,6. I take this scripture literally. Nothing like this has
happened yet, the 1,000 years are yet to come, after the Tribulation and The Day of the LORD.

Hi Pat, Rev 20 The believers-saved will be in the first resurrection. That is why they are
blessed

Hi Peggy. It depends on your position on the timing of this prophecy. Some hold that the millennium is still yet to begin. These are usually referred to as Dispensationalists or Futurists. Others that it began at sometime during the first century, close to or not long after John's writing. These as often referred to as Preterists. There are also various other, usually in between, positions.

confused by Rev. 20 we have not gone thru the thousand years yet? Will the dead rise first, or are they to remain dead a thousand years yet?

J: You are right! You are nothing,but you can be changed and made into? You can only answer when someone calls: John 6:44, you can be Baptized with the Holy Ghost and Fire:Matthew3:11,Then you "will know" 2Corinthians 5:17

J, do you have scriptures for your statement, man is nothing and never will be anything?

We must be born again. Jesus said

Man is nothing, and man shall be nothing forever forgetting the tree of life and that's a fact.

In Matthew 22:30 Jesus says "For in the resurrection they neither marry,nor are given in marriage,but are as the angels of God in heaven."

No,it is referring to a spiritual temple according to Ephesians2:20-22,And in Revelation 21:22 the apostle john saw no temple in heaven for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

Mark 12:24-26- we will be like angels(spiritual bodies) and will know, and love those we did. God wouldn't take that from us, but life and relationships will be different from what we comprehend. We can't. Carnal (flesh) thought will be replaced with righteous understanding and pure love, like God's for us (in Heb. called HABAB) It'll be beautiful to say the least.

To Priscilla on Rev.21 -- Read Acts ch. 2, but PRAY first for Jesus to open your (spiritual) eyes. Take note of vs. 37-38.

As far as gender in heaven, Paul taught the saints in Corinth that "ye shall be my sons and daughters" ( 2 Corinthians 6:18). This is very similar to what these verses teach and demonstrate that gender is consistent with what we experience on earth. There will be Sons and Daughters.

Mike Kim, that is a very interesting subject. Rev. 21:7 indicates exactly what you said. I have often considered and wondered the answer to the gender question as it will be in heaven. I tend to think there will be no gender difference between us as spiritual beings but still wonder. We will be like him!

Well,, I'm thinking these chapter are talking about who will enter heaven,, am i right or wrong????seeking help

Male or female distinction is not made. Those who have a heavenly hope await "release from their bodies" Romans 8:23, resurrected as spirit sons of God. And those that will live on paradise on earth ( Psalm 37:11), will have earthly human, male/female bodies.

2 Peter 3:13 "But there are a new heaven and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise..."

In Heaven, there are no female and male. We shall be his son. We shall be called my son like sons of God in heaven, am I right?

If we believe and become rooted and grounded in Jesus we will take joy in our trials and tribulations. We will overcome and rise again the way Jesus did and be glorified in God.

Praise God for His Word. God fulfills His promise to the His people who believes on Him by faith in Jesus Christ. We will dwell with Him in the new heaven and new earth. We will enjoy a perfect state of happiness in a perfect Heaven. God promised this heavenly life in His Word. We must meditate in His Word day and night to ensure we are on our way to the place of eternal life He has prepared AMEN

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This is such a beautiful chapter...ever since I have read the Bible I keep loving this chapter because this is always the way things should have been,very hopeful.