Discuss Revelation 21 Page 2

  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Jim:

    Isaiah 62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy thy sons (both men and women) MARRY THEE ...

    Revelation 21:9 .... I will show you the bride (both men and women), the Lamb's WIFE .......

    Repent means to change ones BELIEFS.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Jim:

    The church IS NOT a building made of brick and mortar,where earthy husbands and wives go, those churches are were the DEAD worship the works of their hands.

    Revelation 21:22 And I saw no CHURCH therein, because the LORD God Almighty and the LAMB are the CHURCH ......

    The DEAD attend church 2 hours a week, the LIVING are IN CHURCH 24/7.

    The carnal mind is ENMITY against GOD.

    God BLESS YOU, as the Spirit of truth destroys your carnal mind
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Amen Bro dan:

    All men DIED (take up your cross and follow me in death), a NEW CREATION arose, the BODY of Christ, the bride, Christ's wife: and Christ being the HEAD of the BODY.

    1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN (new birth, being RAISED as the body of Christ, and Christ as the head of that body) doth not commit sin, BECAUSE his SEED (the word of God, truth, life) remaineth IN HIM (this mystery, Christ IN YOU), and he CANNOT SIN

    WHY can't we sin: BECAUSE

    Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL put my SPIRIT (the Spirit that raised Christ) IN YOU, and I WILL CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and TO KEEP my judgements and DO THEM.

    It's not our works (in that day they will say, did WE NOT): we do nothing it's all the WORKS OF GOD.

    Revelation 2:26 .... and KEEPS my WORKS .....

    Isaiah 26:10 ....TOGETHER (as ONE), with my DEAD BODY shall they ARISE .....

    Revelation 21:5 ..... I MAKE all things NEW ......

    John 17:22 And the GLORY that thou GAVEST ME, I have given them, that as WE ARE ONE, that may be ONE .

    Christ was RAISED with eternal (IMMORTAL) LIFE, we are joint-heirs of that eternal LIFE

    1 Timothy 6:16 ... Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY, dwelling in the light .....

    1 Corinthians 15:53 ....this mortal MUST PUT ON IMMORTALITY ....

    1 Corinthians 15:38 ... and to every SEED ..... HIS OWN BODY ......

    1 Corinthians 12:27 ..... ye are the BODY of CHRIST ......

    God BLESS YOU!

    God BLESS YOU!
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    God's plan for the nations (conclusion)

    As for the eternal new heaven and earth it seems verses indicate there still will be nations although some seem to merge with promises from the Millennium. However; Revelation 21:24 says: And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. So it is clear that there will be nations still in some geographic sense; although no more sea and the heavenly Jerusalem will clearly be the dominant vista wherever you roam on this new planet.

    Jesus stated from the O.T. that the Temple was supposed to be a place of prayer for all nations ( Mark 11:17). This surely will be fulfilled in the future!

    There are nations that are said not to know God. Isaiah 55:5 shows that they will wake up at the end of the Tribulation as well as return captives (see Isaiah 49:22-25). They also shall bow down as kings and queens to worship God ( Isaiah 49:23) and take care of children. These are wonderful promises to show even from the wicked Tribulation some even in royalty will be saved! We see an interesting prophecy in Ezekiel 39:2 that a sixth part of the Gog army will remain; I would deem it likely many of these people will repent; although a remnant it will probably be a fairly substantial number of those remaining at the end of the Tribulation (also we don't see those in that invasion who appear to have the mark or fight God). This and other verses show various campaigns which lead up to Armageddon; and perhaps linger on until Christ and His returning saints establish control to rule and reign.

    It seems pretty apparent that with all nations against Israel ( Zech. 12:3) in the end so that mainly they will be reprobate with the dead being as dung on the earth ( Jeremiah 25:33). This is a sobering thought; thankfully in Israel 1/3 make it through the fire but 2/3 die ( Zech. 13:9). Some say this is harsh but compared to the stats from the whole world it isn't
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jema:

    Revelation is all about the revealing of Jesus Christ, his creation become the exactness of himself, Christ. All accomplished by the WORKS of the cross of Christ.

    It's hidden in symbols; as you study Mosses and the Prophets, those symbols are explained; yet, often they are explained by another symbol, keep studying, Christ will reveal himself to you, you will come to understand you died with Christ on his cross, YOU and Christ arose TOGETHER, a marriage, you BECAME ONE.

    The entire word of God is about the kingdom of God, a kingdom of priest and gods, the IMAGE of their high priest, Jesus Christ, they are going to judge the nations with Christ.

    Joshua 22:22 The LORD GOD of gods, the LORD GOD of gods ......

    Exodus 7:1 And the LORD said unto Mosses, see I HAVE MADE THEE (Mosses) a god to Pharaoh ....

    God made Mosses a god to JUDGE Pharaoh...... this is going to happen again ..... this time no Canaanites will be left in the land

    Zachariah 14:21 Yea, every POT (we are the pot; the body, Christ the potter) in Jerusalem and in Judah SHALL BE HOLINESS unto the Lord of host: and all they ( Revelation 19:9) that sacrifice shall come and take of them (the pots of Christ), and SEETH THEREIN (be judged) in that day there shall be NO MORE CANAANITE.

    Zachariah 12:8 ... and the house of David shall be as God, and the angel of the Lord before them ........

    Psalms 126:6 He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious SEED, shall doubtless COME AGAIN with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him.

    Revelation 21:26 And they (the pots of God, the body of Christ) shall bring the glory and the honour OF THE NATIONS into it.

    The saints are going to Judge the earth, ALL JUDGEMENT was given to CHrist; you cannot be a judge and NOT BELIEVE, you were made ONE with Christ by his resurrection.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Jim Miller - In Reply - 1 year ago
    "Thank you I will have to investigate this further...

    Below is a little of what I found on the subject.

    The terms "Book of Life" and "Lamb's Book of Life" are used in Christian theology to refer to a concept found in the Bible. However, it's important to note that there is some variation in how different theologians and denominations interpret and use these terms.

    1. **Book of Life:** The "Book of Life" is a term used in several places in the Bible, including the Old and New Testaments. It generally refers to a heavenly record or register in which the names of the righteous, the faithful, or those who belong to God are written. For example, in the Old Testament, Exodus 32:32-33 mentions the Book of Life. In the New Testament, Revelation 20:15 mentions the Book of Life, which is associated with the final judgment. Those whose names are found in the Book of Life are seen as those who will inherit eternal life.

    2. **Lamb's Book of Life:** The term "Lamb's Book of Life" specifically appears in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament. It is often associated with the idea that those who belong to Christ, the Lamb of God, have their names written in this book. Revelation 13:8 and Revelation 21:27 are the primary verses where the Lamb's Book of Life is mentioned. Those who have their names in the Lamb's Book of Life are considered to be the redeemed and saved.

    In some theological interpretations, these terms are used interchangeably to refer to the same concept, while in others, they are seen as distinct but related concepts. The interpretation of the Book of Life and the Lamb's Book of Life can vary among different Christian denominations and theological traditions.

    In summary, both terms refer to the idea of a divine record in which the names of the saved or righteous are written. The specifics of how these books are understood and their significance in salvation can vary depending on theological perspectives."
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother Richard:

    What is CHURCH doctrine?

    It certainly is not what man teaches.

    Christ is the CHURCH, you are either IN CHURCH (in Christ, in TRUTH) or you're not IN CHURCH, it has nothing to do with buildings made with the hands of men.

    Revelation 21:22 And I saw no CHURCH therein (the Holy city): for the LORD God Almighty and the LAMB are the CHURCH .....

    2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through subtilty, so your (carnal) minds should be corrupted FROM THE SIMPLICITY that is in Christ.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Oseas - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Daruled

    Who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth- John 3:31. Your earthly and devilish verbiage and chatter is good for nothing, what matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, self-executing, understand? By the way, be sure that your satanic spiritual guide( 2Corinthians 11:12-15) will be cast down into the bottomless pit from now on, day by day, understand?- Revelation 20:3.

    Furthermore, the LAST and main partner of your spiritual guide according Genesis 3:1-, he will be elected soon, that is the LAST Beast to be elected- Revelation 13:1- called Vicarivs Filii Dei, a filii of Devil; he will be cast into the lake of fire - Revelation 19:19-20 - burning with brimstone by the Power of the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD-self-executable- , understand? including their followers, those which he deceived(have been deceived) and received (have received) the mark of the Beast, and they worshipp the Beast making a signal of CROSS- CROSS is CURSE - with right HAND completing the satanic sign on FOREHEAD-AS WAS PROPHESIED- Revelation 13:16- combined with Isaiah 44:20.

    These will be cast alive into the hell's fire from now on- 2 Peter 3:7 combined withn Revelation 19:19-20, even in this LORD's Day, in this seventh and last Day, that is the seventh and last millennium, the current millennium, THE MILLENNIUM OF CHRIST, according the righteous Judgment of GOD, the Judgment Seat of Christ.

    Get ready, for Revelation 21:8 will LITERALLY be fulfilled: "the fearful(the COWARDS), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    Get ready
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    THE WONDERFUL AND GLORIOUS DAY OF RESURRECTION , THE SEVENTH AND LAST DAY - JOHN 11:24 - OR SEVENTH AND LAST MILLENNIUM - THE MILLENNIUM EXCLUSIVELLY OF CHRIST

    continuation from above:

    Now, on this seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium, the world that was promised it would be to come- Luke 20:35-36-the third heaven, the same will be established and will last 1000 years, the first and second heavens(the OT and NT) will be burned up with everlasting fire, and those which believed not in the Word of GOD for salvation will perish for ever.

    By the way, remember 1Corinthians 3:12-15 (quoted below) - , combined with 2Peter 3:7-13. Take a look and understand the prophetical voice, otherwise, you might lose your soul. There is not and will not be any kind of sacrifice for salvation of souls from now on, after Noah, and Moses, the last one was that of JESUS.

    12 If any man built upon the foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

    13 Every man's work shall be made MANIFEST: for -in this Day- it shall (be)declare(d) it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

    15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as BY FIRE. (I suppose you don't know this kind of fire- Isaiah 33:10-14)

    Get ready

    Revelation 21:8 - 8 But the fearful(the COWARDS), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Tdianne:

    Brother SSpencer has given you a perfect explanation of God's salvation, I can't add anything.

    About baptism:

    Baptism is not being immersed in physical water.

    You are baptised into the knowledge of the death and resurrection of Christ.

    Christ died for YOU, you died on the cross with Christ, three days later a new CREATION AROSE, a husband, Christ and his wife, YOU. You were joined in a marriage, you took the name of your husband, you were baptised in the name of Jesus, Jesus is the life and you are his body.

    Ephesians 4:4 ...ONE BODY ..... ONE SPIRIT ......

    Ephesians 4:5 .... One Lord (truth, life, the way), one faith (the faith of Jesus, you life), one baptism (your married name, baptised in THE NAME of Jesus.

    Revelation 3:12 ..... and I will writer upon him the NAME of my God .... and I will write upon him my NEW NAME .....

    2 Corinthians 5:17 .... old things are passed away, behold, all things are BECOME NEW ....

    Revelation 21:5 ..... Behold, I make all things NEW .....

    Revelation 15:3 ..... Great and marvellous are THY WORKS, Lord God Almighty .....

    God bless you
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi David and Gigi

    Thanks for responding, it's been a busy week, sorry for such a late response.

    Part 1.

    Acts 7:35-38 emphasis is on Moses not the Church. besides this gathering/church is the Nation Israel, Not Christ church "that he would later build mentioned in Matthew 16:18.

    Christ have not been crucified yet, so the church couldn't have already been built.

    The church was not built on the sacrifices of goats and calves, nor would it be built while the first tabernacle stood.

    Church definition.

    a calling out that is (concretely) a popular meeting especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both

    As you mentioned, In Matthew 16:18 Jesus says upon this rock he will build HIS CHURCH.

    So, this rock that Jesus mentions in which he will build his Church, is a rock of offence and a stumbling block to the Jews, so this gathering "The Church " is not the gathering in the wilderness.

    GIGI

    Galatians 3:29. Is not talking about any promises back to the land here on earth. It's not a Kingdom verse at all. It's about a contrast between Salvation by faith and the works of the Law. That's not a land promises!

    Theme; Galatians 3:1-2.

    Vs 14) That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

    Also, Hebrews 11 is a chapter about faith!

    The new Jerusalem comes down from heaven "After" The Millennium kingdom here on Earth. Revelation 21:1-2.

    Revelation 20:7. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

    See Part 2.
  • BFR - 1 year ago
    Certainly, I can provide some insight into the subject for God-fearing people who are concerned about their loving pets during the rapture, drawing from the verse Adam reply - mentioned, Revelation 5:13.

    The verse he quoted is part of the biblical book of Revelation, a book that contains visions and prophecies about the end times and the return of Jesus Christ. In this particular verse, John, the author of Revelation, describes a vision of worship in heaven. Every creature in heaven, on earth, under the earth, and in the sea is heard praising God and the Lamb (Jesus Christ) with blessings, honour, glory, and power.

    While the Bible does not explicitly address the fate of pets during the rapture or in heaven, some theologians and religious scholars have explored this topic with different perspectives.

    1. No Direct Scriptural Mention: As you noted, the verse in Revelation 5:13 refers to creatures in general, but it does not specifically mention animals or pets. This absence of direct scriptural mention makes it difficult to provide a definitive answer. The Bible primarily focuses on humanity's relationship with God and the salvation of souls.

    2. God's Love and Care: Many God-fearing individuals believe in God's love and care for all of His creations. Since God cares for His creation, it is not unreasonable to think that He would also care for animals, including our beloved pets.

    3. Theological Speculation: Some theologians speculate that since pets are part of God's creation and bring joy and companionship to people, they might have a place in God's eternal plan. They suggest that animals may be part of the new heaven and new earth mentioned in Revelation 21:1, where God will make all things new.

    4. Symbolic Representation: In some interpretations, animals are seen as symbolic representations of God's goodness, beauty, and creativity. They are considered a reflection of His attributes, and in that sense, their presence in heaven is understood metaphorically.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Chowell2

    Jesus proclaimed Himself to be the "Alpha and Omega" in

    Revelation 1:8;

    Revelation 21:6; and

    Revelation 22:13.

    Alpha and omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet.

    It's common to use the first and the last letters of the Hebrew alphabet to denote the whole of anything from beginning to end. Jesus as the beginning and end of all things is a reference to no one but God!

    This statement of eternality could apply only to God.

    It is equivalent to saying He always existed and always will.

    The phrase also identifies Him as the God of the Old Testament. Isaiah ascribes this aspect of Jesus' nature as part of the triune God in several places. "I, the Lord, am the first, and with the last I am He" Isaiah 41:4.

    "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God"

    Isaiah 44:6.

    I am he; I am the first, I also am the last" Isaiah 48:12.

    I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY. Revelation 1:8

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Revelation 22

    14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the Tree of Life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    15 For outside are dogs and sorcerers, and whoremongers and murderers and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    The following is a theoretical summary of what appears to be happening.

    Heavenly Jerusalem; it appears is suspended above the earth during the Millennium (can be inferred from Revelation 21:2).

    Psalm 48 seems to show that it is seen during the Millennium

    2Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.

    3God is known in her palaces for a refuge.

    4For, lo, the kings were assembled, they passed by together.

    5They saw it, and so they marvelled; they were troubled, and hasted away.

    6Fear took hold upon them there, and pain, as of a woman in travail.

    The gravitational affects of the city would cause physical effects such as seen in Isaiah 40:4

    Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

    Further effects would occur with the dropping of the Heavenly City to earth; and thus it would perish by fire ( 2 Peter 3:10) when all the elements burn up. There is no more sea at that point ( Revelation 21:1) which would make sense since EVERY creature dies in the sea during the second bowl Judgment ( Rev. 16:3). We see at the end of the Millenium that there is no more place for the dead (from under the sea or the land) and thus the final Judgment of the unredeemed occurs. ( Rev. 20:11).

    Since only the City of God comes down; the rest of heaven itself is presumably somewhere out there or perhaps still in a different dimension where we can dwell. Also; the rest of the earth will still presumably be restored and the Saints will be able to gain access (even if the heavenly city is totally surrounded by the lake of fire).
  • Landry - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother David0921:

    All the saints (elders) in the old testament died a physical death; because Christ, the promised SEED had not yet COME to give ALL immortal life by his resurrection.

    Ezekiel 18:4 .... the SOUL that sinneth it shall DIE .....the soul goes to the grave .....

    The promise in both the Old and New Testament has always been the promise of eternal live, destroying the enemy of man, DEATH.

    Hebrews 11:39 And these all (the saints in the Old testament), having obtained a good report through faith (believing in the coming messiah to deliver them from death), RECEIVED NOT THE PROMISE.

    Hebrews 11:40 For God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect (resurrected with Christ, Christ ONLY is perfect and hath immortality dwelling in the light .... 1 Timothy 6:16)

    Matthew 27:52-53

    All creation was given immortality at the same time: when Christ was resurrected; Christ only was resurrected, creating a NEW CREATION.

    Revelation 21:5 ... Behold, I MAKE ALL THINGS NEW ....

    2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in CHRIST (Christ ONLY was resurrected), he is a NEW creature: old things have passed away, Behold, all things have become NEW.

    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow (God foreknew all creation), he did also PREDESTINATE (by Christ resurrection) to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the FIRSTBORN (Christ ONLY arose) of many brethren (CHRISTians).

    God bless YOU!
  • Landry - In Reply - 1 year ago
    AMEN Brother Ronald:

    You are correct: Daniel is a prophecy of Christ, not antichrist.

    Most don't understand the abomination that maketh desolated. It was SET UP the same time the daily sacrifice was destroyed .... Daniel 12:11

    Hebrews 3:9 But Christ a Son over his own HOUSE, whose house we are .....

    Matthew 23:38 Behold your HOUSES are left unto you DESOLATE ....

    All men DIED, their house (BODY) was left desolate, no life, dead on the cross, then CHRIST ONLY arose.

    All men arose a NEW CREATION; joint HEIRS of Christ, the body of Christ, the life now the SPIRIT of GOD.

    Most don't understand the GREAT TRIBULATION.

    Matthew 24:22 And unless those days be SHORTENED, no flesh should be SAVED ....

    Christ and ALL MEN DIED on the cross, three SHORT days latter, ALL MEN were made ALIVE by the RESURRECTION.

    ALL the wrath of God, that ALL MEN deserved, was POURED OUT on Christ, that was the GREAT TRIBULATION, three short(en) days, for the elects sake.

    The same things is pictured in Revelation, all the 7 plagues and 7 vials had to be poured out before ANYONE could enter the TEMPLE, God Almighty and the LAMB are the TEMPLE .... Revelation 21:22

    Revelations 15:8 ... NO ONE could enter the temple, until the seven plagues were fulfilled ......

    God bless you!
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi.

    That take you have seems familiar.

    Here's a few things in your post that puzzles me.

    Your Quote;

    Revelation 21:1

    And I saw a new heaven, and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth (old covenant)

    Are you saying the first heaven and first earth is the old covenant? If so how do you define covenant?

    Continuing-

    were passed away; and there was no more SEA (whores, peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues)

    Then you continue on and state that

    All men DIED (were destroyed) on the cross with Christ, the Old Law of sin and death was crucified on the cross and the New Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus was RESURRECTED. END QUOTE.

    Are you supporting this doctrine where all men from Adam on throughout history is saved and there is no Hell?

    And by the way, I believe the seas in scripture is often used as the Gentile nations.

    Thanks.
  • Landry - 1 year ago
    Revelation 17:15 The waters (seas) which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues (this is all men, all creation).

    Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven, and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth (old covenant) were passed away; and there was no more SEA (whores, peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues)

    All men DIED (were destroyed) on the cross with Christ, the Old Law of sin and death was crucified on the cross and the New Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus was RESURRECTED.

    Revelation is the REVEALING of Jesus Christ.

    Only one BODY arose at the RESURRECTION, you are joint heirs of Christ resurrection. Christ ONLY hath immortality.

    1 Timothy 6:19 Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY dwelling in the LIGHT (presence of God) ...

    1 Corinthians 15:54 .... this mortal shall put on IMMORTALITY ......

    Romans 8:29 Whom he did foreknow (he foreknew ALL creation) he did also PREDESTINATE (by his resurrection) to be conformed to the image of Christ (being raised together as ONE) ...

    God bless you
  • Richard H Priday - 1 year ago
    Heaven Part 5

    There are details about the heavenly city appearing on earth such as in Psalm 48. This shows the fear of the kings of the earth; and would represent a Millennium event. In earlier posts I have discussed how we will rule much like David under Christ who will be the supreme authority during the 1000 year reign. There are other verses about the earth and its peoples which could encompass promises of either the Millennium or eternal Kingdom.

    I have said before that the eternal nature of the earth seems to be proven by several verses and I had thought that was true about the sun and moon but Psalm 72 seems to indicate otherwise. It would seem to show the end of it at the end of the Millennium; no doubt part of the catastrophic destruction at the time. Ecclesiastes 1:4 and several other verses seem to indicate that the earth in some form remains forever. As to exactly how the new universe will be; or if anything exists other than heaven and a new earth is rather mysterious; however. It is very frightening to think of the lake of fire as being what happens when the elements (or atoms) are dissolved in 2 Peter 3:10; perhaps the lost are in an eternal body that is reduced to some strange broken down elemental state. Revelation 22:15 seems to indicate they are just outside the gate. Somehow it would seem that they are infinitely far away from the saints at that time; however as there will be no more crying on our part as Revelation 21:4 shows.

    These changes no doubt will cause the sea to vaporize; hence no more sea ( Rev. 21:1). All in the sea will die in the Tribulation anyway (except that brought to life in the Dead Sea); see Revelation 16:3; and Ezekiel 47:10 with surrounding verses on that context. Again in heaven we shall behold Him and see His marks as Thomas did; the prophecy in Genesis 3:15 had eternal ramifications. We ever shall be reminded of what He did for us.
  • Nstew - 1 year ago
    Revelation 21:14

    "And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb."

    Given what happened to Judas, who would be the 12th apostle in this context?
  • MountHoreb - In Reply - 1 year ago
    JRay, Suffering is not normal. when Jehovah ( psalm 83:18) created the earth,

    his motives was for man and woman to take care of the earth. to enjoy his

    creation, to take care of the animals. to enjoy the richness that the earth provided.

    he created the ground to give in abundance, so that poverty was impossible. God

    started the earth in the garden of Eden. Jehovah and the heavens was his the main

    authority to mankind according to Genesis 1,2. there were no kings, rulers in the beginning.

    But this happened to mankind: Genesis 3; Genesis 6; Genesis 19; Job 1,2; Luke 4:1-13

    it just getting worse and worse. 2Timothy 3:1-7

    It's a heavenly war, and a invisible war ( Revelation 12:7-13) we humans may not understand but God has revealed it to us in human terms. although the innocent are dying because of 1 John 5:19. WE KEEP THE HOPE AS GOD WANTS US TO: Romans 15:4-6; Revelation 21:3-5

    We continue in the hope. Job 14:14

    IF YOU READ ALL THESE SCRIPTURES YOU WILL SEE WHY MANKIND ARE SUFFERING.

    I HOPE THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 97:1 - 1 year ago
    Psalm 97

    Verse 1 indicates the "multitude of isles" being glad when the Lord reigns. This term has been said to refer to the Gentile nations or the outermost parts of the world. Ezekiel 39:6 and Isaiah 41:5 seem to refer to these parts of the world during the Tribulation with Isaiah 24:15 giving a prophetic indication that even in the fires God will be glorified.

    Verse 2 on clouds and darkness are similar to Solomon's description of God in 1 Kings 8:12 similar to other passages.

    Verse 3 through 5 show the affects on the earth of His coming. We are reminded of 2 Thessalonians 2:8 as well as the battle of Armageddon.

    Verse 4 reminds us of Matthew 24:27 when the Son of Man comes as to His appearing.

    Verse 5 shows us similar references to Psalm 68:2 among other places.

    Verse 6 shows as things are now; God's presence evident to all as we see indicated in Romans 1 and Psalm 19. Man will see His glory when He comes to rule in the Millennium.

    Verse 7 shows that finally idol worship will end when Christ comes back. People will eventually cast forth their idols of gold and silver during the Tribulation judgments as Isaiah 2:20. Perhaps some of that sadly will occur because Satan himself will demand worship and that will eliminate worship of any false gods but also the true God with the mark of the beast sealing people's fate.

    Verse 8 shows how Judah and the remaining nation of Israel will rejoice; which will happen when He is returning as Zechariah 12:10 indicates. Verse 9 shows the majesty of God unparalleled.

    Verse 10 shows how saints are delivered; either from or through disaster.

    Verse 11 reminds us of His light and no longer a need for the sun and moon from Revelation 21:23 but also found in Isaiah 60:19.

    Finally the last verse talks about rejoicing of the righteous and thanks at remembrance of His holiness. Good sentiment for all times or dispensations and the age to come.
  • MountHoreb - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hope this brings you Hope and Endurance: Matthew 6:9,10; isaiah 33:24; Psalm 37:9-11; Revelation 21:4,5
  • MountHoreb - In Reply - 1 year ago
    so sorry to hear this. hope builds endurance. Revelation 21:4,5
  • ChildoftheKing - In Reply on Revelation 21 - 1 year ago
    EX 19:5 Deut7:6-8 2 Samual 7:23-24 Gentiles were engrafted in and chosen too. Romans 11:11, 11:24
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi GiGi,

    Hope you and your husband are well, thanks for your reply, I agree Jesus will return bodily not as a spirit, the glorified body in which He was resurrected, as we will be resurrected, Phil. 3:20-21. This mortal must put on immortality, our spiritual body,

    1 Cor. 15:44-53.

    I know it will be amazing to see Him face to face and as we see in Revelation 21:22-23 the new Jerusalem on the new earth will not have a temple and no need for the sun or moon for light, for God and the Lamb/Jesus will be the temple and the light. John 17:5 I don't know if our minds can even imagine what that glory is, or what it looks like, but we will know when we see Him.

    I wanna be there, don't you?

    God bless,

    RLW
  • GIGI - In Reply on Revelation 21 - 1 year ago
    Hello Admin.

    It would be very much simpler if there was only one person with a given screen name. Sometimes this happens, as I have noticed. But also, I think that some people use multiple screen names, not necessarily to dominate the site, but to give the impression that other people share their same views that some of us have recognized as being aberrant. So, that is another possible reason why some make multiple accounts. It is deceptive and hopefully some of us can recognize it when it occurs. Should we contact admin when we notice this?
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 21 - 1 year ago
    Ronald,

    Please disregard my last message. I just noticed that there is another user on here with the name Jesse. I am not sure if he is new here or not, but having someone posting with the same user's name as mine could cause confusion. I hope this does not happen. Some websites will not accept a user name that has already been taken but I guess it is okay here. Can you imagine multiple people posting with the same user's name, like Jesse, or Ronald? How would we know who's who?

    Anyways, blessings to you, my brother!
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Revelation 21 - 1 year ago
    Hey Jesse,

    I am not sure what happened? I replied to Jesse on a question on the if the Jews were the chosen people. If there is another Jesse I do not see how it was sent to your email. You can see his post 17 hours ago.

    That is strange, even stranger if the other Jesse gets this.

    RLW
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 21 - 1 year ago
    Hello Ronald,

    I am not sure why you are sharing this with me but thank you! Did you mean to send this to someone else?


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