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Fifth seal. Them slain for the Word of God. All dead of flesh are with God and these slain witness of the word. The soul/self & the spirit/intellect return as soon as your flesh is dead. These persecuted in the flesh for their faith in the Word. The elect will all be delivered up to death before him. Which is to say the son of perdition. Satan the dragon. And for them that don't know the word and didn't take the time to seek with understanding by learning the truth, well, its by them and their believing a lie that brings them to their spiritual death. They listen to mans hearts and minds and put their souls in a preachers hands and lost their spirit to the devil. They just didn't take the time to read this letter from our Father giving us warnings on what the future brings. God knows your heart and just try is all He ask and He will help you. Oh, there are more of these fake Christian preachers coming with a flood of lies. Don't feed off men or their books to teach you the word of God, Go to the WORD of God. Don't listen to me! Find out the truth by getting the tools and study. Its life! Or death! Revelation means Unveiling the truth, don't let someone tell you because he looks so religious, " you don't need to read that book of Revelations, why, we are all gona be gone!
God won't let their blood shed slide. Pain will start at the pulpit and anyone miss leading so I say, study! The souls are told just wait a little while until fellow servants join them. That's the two witnesses. God has told satan not to kill anyone when he is here in that half of hour of temptation. Not to touched them that are sealed inside their heads, not a hair on our heads. Satan and his bunch can brow beat us with a stern face. The testimony from the elect who maintain a blank mind and as the Holy Spirit speaks through them makes satan very unhappy when the elect witness against him and his bunch of vipers. God will talk! Listen to what God says! As long as your in the flesh you can be saved. Listen and turn away as the 144000 do and be a child of God. The truth is going to be known. God is truth and love. Men and woman of God will be convinced because because its the Holy Spirit that speaks. God created you because He loves you and your special to Him. Study.

Fourth seal. Death, Satan, son of perdition, who is death and brings Hell with him. That are written of in 2 Corinthians 13,14,15, are his fallen angels are transformed # 3345 disquised as ministers of light telling us bring your loved ones to Jesus, who is turning them over to death, who is instead of Christ, not our Christ and they want them to bow down to a fake god who they, knowingly, are waiting for the true Christ are the ones you drag down to death know he is the devil the false prophet. In other word turning them over to death. He has power over a fourth part. Four corners, the whole earth. To kill
with a sword or a mouth full of lies for that is the weapon used against us. ( Revelation 12:13 to 16 the woman/Elect and out of his mouth is a flood of lies as in Rev. 9:18. Their weapons are lies.) And the hunger is for the true Word of God, with the son of perdition and with the beast. This Greek word beast means, poisonous, venomous, beast of earth, or think harm. Not good. Their like Scorpions of the earth because the scorpions grab their prey by their claws and digest a fluid into their victims using their victims as a stomach because a scorpion has no stomach to digest its food in. The scorpions turn their victims backbone to must and can do whatever they want with their victim. These soft spoken ministers of light will do the same and lead you to antichrist.
This beast is the system of the kenites, the small people, sons of Cain, a generation of people of spoken all through the word giving us warning and even in the Parable of the Sower in Matthew 13:36 to 43 Jesus Himself explains it to the disciples when He was just teaching to them alone. Satan will have his beast system in place to steal the souls of the unlearned. Oh! It looks religious. It takes on the appearance of a church with all its beautiful glitter and it will look like a place of God and people will think they are in a place of God but what lead them to being lost from the truth is from traditions of men who preached out of their own minds and hearts instead of seeking the truth. So, when you see one who comes and heals a deadly wound that saves the world from some destruction and who can work miracles in the sight of men as bringing lightning from the sky and the great falling away, the apostasy happens where people leave their church’s and follow this new political religious leader who is the false prophet, the antichrist, the serpent, that old dragon with his new world order church’s, you will know that it’s time not to buy and sell but to wait for the true Christ to return. Two and a half months period we won’t buy or sell but barter only. Be prepared by watching for the two witnesses.
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3rd seal, the Black horse is a penny a day for a days work. Mainly taxes and food getting to where you can eat. When the head politician and his boys have drained our country broke. Well, its pretty near the point of us as Americans to saying this is the end. They have spent all the money and now they want to bank-rupt the Social Security and buy everybodies vote for a thousand bucks a head. But if they are of the flesh kings that work for world we will know as we watch them get re-elected. Now we know by reading Amos 8:11 that the famine at the end times is not a famine of bread but a famine for the word of God. So who has been straving us? Preachers! It goes dark because we are starving for the word. They love to play church with all their church traditions and it looks so religiously Holy and right and even when the locust are here the pretty whore system looks so religious and pretty it just makes you want to jump right in.that's why it was written that way. But the end of the verse 6 reads, hurt not the oil of our people or the Blood of Christ, or wine. He is our Anointed Christ. I say, wait for the true Christ He is the one that loves you and died so you could live.

2nd seal open. The red horse and power given to him was to take peace. Meaning with out the true Christ there is no peace. Remember this is speaking of spiritual death in this Book, mainly, until the last 20 minutes and then the flesh with died in a hail storm. This is a great sword of lies and deception. We know that from the Book of Daniel 11:21 the vile person (antichrist) obtain the kindom by flatteries. That 22 that this is a flood of lies.23 him and his will work deceitfully and small people, his tares the kenites.24 and read this, satan,he shall enter peaceably. And it goes into how he buys souls by spreading the spoil and riches. Skipping forward to 30. For the ships of Chittim, yepper! That's the Elect. Yeah! We do. We go against him. The Elect will make him grieve. And at the end it say "them" that forsake the Holy covenant are the kenites. Then with the antichrist playing god they take away the daily sacrifice, communion. Why? You don't have to take communion our christ is here. No he isn't. Just like the rapture churches will tell you, "you don't need to read.Revelation, we are all gona be gone,we are gona fly away". I`ve heard that lie because I grew up with a rapture. My Mother told me the same thing growing up, but instead of listening decided God was right. He said eat and consume the Word of God. Going to Jeremiah in chap.4: 9 This is a rotten bunch in that day and as you read 10 you see that God didn't promise the wicked any peace. They thought they were living high on the hog and had peace but there is no peace without the Prince of Peace. And 11. That dry wind is a destroyer wind of bad spirits. So we read in Mark 13:7 when you here wars and rumours of wars,be ye not troubled. He means it because satan comes in peace to decieve many, "all" the world. The elect will stand. They know their Shepherds voice. And have studied the Word. Just don't fight and when given up blank your mind and let Father do the talking.

These seals start off a five moth period shorten from seven years for the elect sake. Read chapter 9 God said it twice. Jesus said it was like the time of Noah. Noah and his family were on the flood 5 months. Jesus said He foretold us all things. Revelation are inserts. To understand them I will have to see where I can find it so you can see but its some chapters are to heaven and some to earth. I think I read it in the companion Bible appendixs? I`ll check on it. But Revelation show many views to understand the way of what will happen. When I think of Revelation I think of its meaning "take off the cover" to reveal and enlighten. Like a batch of papers to a tressure hunt and you have to put all the meaning together and seek for truth.

The first seal is open by Christ (lamb). The guard of the four that guard God`s throne are creatures (not Beasts) and with a thundering voice says, come and see with understanding. Now read, Mark 13 where Jesus explains this, let no man decieve you, Matt. 24, Luke 21. 2nd Thessalonians 2. These books and chapters tell about the same exact revelation that will come to passed. Some use Christian or Christ-man decieving and leading people to the false prophet. I see this as super preachers getting on board for money or just stupit and another are locust preachers here or coming. As 2 Corinthians 11 so let's look at chap. 11 paul is saying in the first verse that he wants to open up his heart and just talk to them/us. And in the 2nd verse is saying he wants to espouse us to one husband and that he may present us as a chaste virgin to CHRIST.3RD verse, but I fear,least by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve ( wholly seduced,had sex). Throught his subtil,ty (slick snake talk) so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.now 4 For if he that cometh preacheth "another" (instead in the MMS) instead of jesus whom we have not preached. And it goes on to say if you listen to other spirits or gospels of good news you may just end up with him. Watch out for super preachers and the falling away to a new gospel that will lead you to antichrist.and if you go on to 2 corinthians 11:14,15 the word transformed is disquised satan disquises himseif looking like rightous but looks like a lamb but is the dragon and 15 is hislocust preachers disquised as ministers. A happy church of hell bound lovers.are coming. Do you really want to jump in the sack with them. Not! Mark 13:17 is a spiritual verse meaning just that because its not of woman having flesh babies, its meaning is jumping in the sack with anitchrist and not waiting for the true husband our Christ. 17. But woe to them that are with child,and to them that give suck in those days. Give suck means to be helping the system that one world system that is satans. Like I said there are four stages of the locust and some are here getting things ready at the end time events. Hey! They preach his fly away doctrine already and beg for money. Now, The sight we will see is satan dressed up acting as Jesus but he has a fake crown that was given to him. Now in this day and time he will problably ware the clothes as politicians ware today and it will be his power that captures the eyes. The way its written is how we know he is a fake king coming with fake crown and poison bow. What will really fools people are all his power,like bringing lighting from the sky. Oh! It looks real and all power comes from God so God is letting us know this satan is fake but looks like the real deal. Joel tells us its God`s locust army. All power comes from God to get His plan done. He wants to know who waited for Him. God let's us know,He let's us know because this bow translates toxic poison. Satan is here to play god and he only wants souls to spiritual death. The wars and rumours of wars must needs be so its the opposit of war and satan wants the world to love him in peace to steal your soul.. When it happens all the world will jump on the wide road to hell, except them that love the Lord and wait. We can broadcast seeds all day & night but to have the living water ( Christ ) to make it grow. It takes God through Christ to hear your love to send the Holy Spirit to you for understanding. Ask Him for the Holy Spirit to give you understanding in the word. Cry your love to Him, let Him know you need help to see the truth. Isaiah 43:26 says let Him know that you have been trying to be good and reading the word and that you love Him. Let Him know your heart is with Him and you love Him and you want the Holy Spirit to be one with your spirit.Remember God held you and formed you and He loves you. He gave you life and we are all His. Each of us are loved by Him. Read that 43 chapter of Isaiah. Now the 2nd seal. Now we know this kill one anothere means Family and friends turning their loved one to death. And this sword as you read the word you know that the sword is the mouth and antichrist blows smoke and lies. In 12:15 cast out of his mouth a flood of lies. Just spotted 13:11 where it speaks of satan "and he had two horns like a lamb" (look just like Jesus)" and he spake like a dragon"(why? Because he was/is the dragon satan).in 16:13 we read the frogs that come out of his mouth . Out of the mouth of the dragon unclean spirit.(lies) the beast.( Lies)and false prophet lies. All three rolls he lies. Talk later

First seal satan comes on a white horse with a fake crown and a toxin bow of poison. To understand the seals and get some view of them, you can go to Matt.24, Luke 21, Mark 13. No peace on earth because the true Christ our Lord is not here yet.

...one more thing about "not judging" (we are to judge rightly)--here's what God says (among other things about judging):1Pet.4:17 “For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?”
Furthermore, the Lord Himself stated "Did I not say thay you are gods?" and the root wood of "gods" means "judges."
If you supposedly "looooovvvvve" so "muuuuuucccch" and don't judge you give license to sinners to continue in their waywardness.

2 Peter 3:16As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are UNLEARNED AND UNSTABLE wrest, as [they do] also THE other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

@Charles...your interpretation is off the mark brother...goodness it has nothing to do with obama and bin laden...september 11 was a black flag operation done by Americans themselves ...Bush and all presidents from Roosevelt are pawns played by the world bank secret sect (false Jews and fakes) Please all note that we are being enslaved in a system that is the synagogue of SATAN and those who can see it and believe in the Almighty and the SON - Messiah will be saved. 911 was a hollywood act to trick the masses to give excuses to stage and continue wars for the sake of mammon- money... Satan is wise and crafty ...WAKE UP PEOPLE.!!! Look deeper Rothchild is a Russian fake jew and the American Media and Federal bank and world bank are run by fake jews...Power to rule is the name of the game using money as the common denominator to promote greed and enslave society. WAR is big business.

revelation revealed some truth to me, truth that i did not know.

"From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. But I said, My leaness, my leaness, woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously." ( Isaiah 24:16) I see a correlation here with Revelation. I see a remnant of God's people singing unto Him; I see Isaiah seeing woe "...the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously." Revelation 6:9-11 says, "And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled." I see in Revelation those who will come out of great tribulation. ( Revelation 7) I think of the Nazi's against the Jews (and other people's as well). When the mass killing began, songs could be heard amongst such evil. Some Jews (and others) may have been heard singing unto God; singing unto His righteousness, holding to their faith and their God; some songs may of been for deliverance. Many went to their death singing both songs. The woe was great when treacherous dealers dealt treacherously with them; very treacherously. In Isaiah, and in Revelation, we see woe, treachery, songs, and great and final deliverance.

First, set up a seven-year time line--draw it out on paper. Understand that Rev. chapters 6 thru 18 are parenthetical; that is, they are 7 chapters apart in terms of the narrative. So chapter 6 goes with chapter 13; chapter 7 with 14 and so on until 19. Chapter 12, which is all about the Nation of Israel, weaves in and out of this parenthetical narrative. Now, getting back to Chapter 6 specifically--and remember I said to put the above chapters on a 7-year time line--one should note that the events in each separate verse in chapter 6 go through this 7 year period/time line to the end of the 7 year tribulaton. Having said that, I want to comment about "not judging": those who are led by the Spirit judge all things and are judged by no man." Have a nice day.

Judge not, blame not, Iudge not, point not, Judge not, Damn not, IUDGE NOT OR SEE NOT and offer Babel speaking nonsense such as this: "By the Grace of God's Wrath, when the Lord Delivers on HIS PROMISE THAT HE IS NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH comes down in anger to Iudge, punish & condemn on His Eternally Perfect Desires that we be Saved to Hell dabble.babble.rabble.blah blah blah"

GOD IS GRACE, LOVE & LIBERTY.

Deceived, the vaile, is upon the mind where: yee Iudge, spread lies, of a God Damner. Thee see, not He, only to thee nose tip. Spread Bless-He, Phemy, into the fight Pyre.

The language of the Bible is ONLY UNDERSTOOD upon Receiving the Divine Light of Grace. Don't See it yet? The put the Book down and work on these: building Love, offering others Patient Guidance & Kind Influence, forgiving others that paves the way to Grace, recalling & giving Thanks for Blessings which paves the way to Loving Admiration of Life in Joyful Gratefulness which in turn births Hope and BE COMPASSIONATE. Do these things and when you're ready, Receive the Light of Divine Grace. THESE THINGS ARE OF THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST.

You IUDGE Yourself.

Sorry Matthew Henry, but understanding the whole Bible fidelities and infidelities, ‘One cannot judge another right nor wrong, because the Lord is the only one that knows if the person knew right from wrong.’ Maybe this is why he ordered us to leave judgment and their punishment to Him. But to see the Picture in a modern world (A Lustful, Greedy, Lying, Stealing, etc… World).
The first white horse referred to america: and he that sat on him had weapons of mass destruction; and a choice of presidency/authority was given unto him; and he went forth conquering to conquer (judging and punishing as truth, liberty, and justice allows).

The red horse referred to Saudi Arabia and power (gathering others that did not want the freedoms americans worship forced on them: Having a god before God, worshipping made idols, taking the Lord’s name in vain, Remembering the Sabbath to keep it Holy, Honor your parents, kill, adultery/fornicate, steal, lie, and/or covet. And with the other citizens knowing this also, Bin Laden had no problem with power to vow, ‘I will take peace from the earth’. His tongue was a great sword.

The black horse (death); and he that sat on him Obama justifying the murder of BinLaden. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say (Obama on national media giving his justification, ‘He took a tooth from us and we took an eye from him’. Thou not hurt Saudi Arabia (Oil and Wine).



Bush had to start it, Obama had to be the big one, but Osama had to be the one that won.
Differ opinions? Well, think of it on a whole picture, all over the world. BinLaden is dead, so they say. The way they handled it, I am certain that american officials are torturing him to get as much info as they can, but it’s too late; he did what he said he would do, not only for our generation, but for all generations in all parts of the world to come. Figure how much he cost america and other countries in security upgrades, uncomfortable time processing and having to wait for hours for conveniences: flying, bussing, subways, and most all forms of public transportations. Compare this to price rises prior to 9/11/2001. The biggest inconvenience is knowing that anywhere and anytime, another abused person will be heard: Suicide bombers, bombs, self-made weapons and larger destruction devises. Then, when one finds another that feels the same, there is a bond. This makes it easier to find others with more of an impact. It doesn’t have to be another air crafted mastermind; it’s done.
Remember, it doesn’t take a high school diploma to learn to read the internet about how to make a bomb, strap it on, or donate it, intending it for a total devastation in revenge to show they are fed up with americas corruption in and on the world. Who is going to pay for all of this, americans every day by all of the natural and great freedoms lost to men that vowed to do exactly what they did!

I love this verse....

The black horse in chapters 5 and 6 are evocative of mourning, dark times following the conquest and warfare of the first two horses, and increasing scarcity especially among the poor, who are hit hardest by the increasing costs of food. A denarius (translated as penny in the King James) was a silver coin, and a day's wage for a soldier in the Roman Empire, thus these grain prices paint a picture of toiling all day to barely be able to feed yourself. The rich are rather unaffected by this calamity, as indicated in "see thou harm not the oil nor the wine".

God has blessed me with the gifts of dreams. The black horse was angry - Present only to kill, for he(the horse) has saw what evilist man has done. But God....

i think that if God searches hearts of man yhen man have to search his own heart to make sure that he is real in his own heart.we have be true God and true to our self in order to be genuine in the faith,faith causes us to be justified throuh the blood of jesus.

Chapter 12 is an outline of the scriptures. That thrid of the stars is a thrid of the whole children of God. And Nero is not in chapter 12.

Genesis 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

The stars of Heaven are the martyrs for Christ.
They came from the fig tree of ISRAEL, as they were cast down to the earth.

Then in rev 12:3 we find Nero, the great red dragon casting 1/3 of the stars of Heaven to the earth. Remember he burned the city of Rome, then blamed it on the Christians. The stars of Heaven were the seed of Abraham.

4990 BC THE FLOOD . With the biblical calender in recognition.....COUNT.......THEN ADD,,,MAY,21.2011 IS exactly 7000. beloved be not ignorant.

The Lord doesn't give a time or date of His return. No man knows that. The Lord ask us to see the signs and to be ready. To try and guest our Lords return is just that a guest. Don't try please, you are only tring to rely on our own thought instead of Trusting in our Lord and Savior. Only the Lord knows when He is coming. The angels don't even know the time and date.

Praise God for that.

Garyloyd newman, i would like to know how you got those years (2012-2014) from Daniel. My numbers are off everytime i would just like to know how you got them thanks.

I believe That Satin and his 7000 fallen angels will be cast out of Heaven onto the earth. Satin will appear as the Anti-Christ. Gods Election will be taken by Satin for a world trial and the Election will let God Speak Through Them through His Sprit for the entire world to hear.
The Anit Christ will be on Earth for a 5 Month period then the Seventh Trumpit will sound. The real Christ will appear, We will all be truned into sprit form, every Knee will Bow and there will be a 1000 year period.

Real close! Daniel prediction is between 2012 to 2014. Maybe any harvest time now. Just remember not the first saying he is jesus, who comes as a sheep but is a wolf. Wait for the one that comes and Jerusalem is flatten. Comes with a rod of iorn. Don't be havested out of season wait till September.

If all people could read tis chapter and realise that the King of Glory is coming soon and Heaven is real and also hell is real, its a pity, there's no to be saved after death you receive Christ while still on earth and work for him whgile still on earth be wise people accept Jesus Christ, He is coming soon.

Yes, there will be many a shamed from being deceived. When they see the true Christ coming they will hide their faces.

Them that are deceived by the antichrist who thought it was Christ will have 1000 years to learn before the Great Throne Judgement.

We do need to watch Israel. Mark 13:7 and when ye hear of wars and rumours of war,be ye not troubled; for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet. So, the opposite of war is peace. Right now they have a peace treaty here and a peace treaty there and the U.N, jumps around and wants peace but war goes on and now they say we got to have the New World order to have peace. What I'm saying is watch out when peace comes to Jerusalem. Watch out! The great magician is coming to town who can do great wonders and will put on the greatist show you ever have seen. his sword is lies blowin smoke and the whole world will chase after peace. How else could you get the whole world to follow you. Give them what they want. he sits on the throne and says he`s god