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The subject of prophecy is complex and as a new Christian 40 years ago something that was often on my mind. The basic crux of theory as to the last generation was that 1948 with Israel becoming a nation in a day ( Isaiah 66:7-8) which was prophesied meant that that was the beginning of that generation. Well; it is 2022; and with Psalm 90:10 pretty well showing the length of a generation being 70 years or 80 at most we are already going to go to at least 2029 before the 2nd coming. (Interestingly the second part of the Psalm 90:10 about "labor and sorrow" do sound like labor pains; but also could just show the natural end of life for the individual.

Anyway; some say that the fig tree parable assures us of 1948; or perhaps 1967 when Jerusalem was recaptured. That was under the assumption of a 40 year generation when I was a young Christian. Many forget the second part of the prophecy about ALL the leaves ( Luke 21:29 and other gospel passages). This would tie into the land of "unwalled villages" with the Ezekiel 38 war as well; and the prosperity in the land. It would seem that oil and natural resources are beginning to be the "hook in the jaw" for many-whether Russia is Gog; or Turkey and other nations who may fit the bill better. Anyway; it seems that Psalm 83 who discuss the surrounding nations (such as Palestinians) and perhaps Syria would show a war with the surrounding immediate neighbors; and the Gog/Magog the outer perimeter. Probably; the Gulf nations will have prosperity first for a time after Israel begins to expand their borders; and share the economic prosperity with other nations. The peace treaty ideas starting a few years back seems to have the beginnings of Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 11:39 "dividing the land for gain" with all the land and money brokering. It could all happen between the first and 2nd seal but it seems it will be before that.

For now; judgment begins with the House of God. ( 1 Peter 4:17). Keep the faith! Agape.

Dear "Tracy Hill", It was God who triumphed over death when He raised Jesus from the power of death, three days after Jesus died on the cross at Calvary. Jesus appeared to the Resurrection to many people. And the disciples had to wait in Jerusalem. After He ascended to heaven. Easter is about Jesus' death, 40 days later came Pentecost and then came the Holy Spirit. We know all this. Acts 2 In short.

But I think you're thinking about where in the end times we are now. Dear Friend, The apostles also believed that they were in the end times. So we are not confused, but looking ahead and knowing that we are now closer than ever. Repent, beloved, and be baptized of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you and all your house will be saved Amen.

My advice, Read Revelation dear. And get your own opinion, ask Jesus to open your mind to the kingdom of heaven and gain insight into the secrets that are from the very beginning of the Earth.

Romans 8:1-11 God bless us all in Jesus Name.

My question is part are we at now in Revelations unfolding to the resurrection and the end of the world?

It has definitely happened. Instances where it happened include:

The northern kingdom of Israel suffered it during the latter end of its existence.

2 Kings 6:24-30

The southern kingdom of Judah suffered it during the Babylonian conquests that kept increasing the number of those being led into captivity. Ezekiel was a captivity prophet.

Ezekiel 5:10

Extra biblically, the Donner party is a famous case of famine driven canabalism.

Revelation includes famine and death by hunger as two of the 4 horsemen. Revelation 6:5-8. It is likely horrors like canabalism will occur.

Richard,

The end-times are strictly 5-6-7 seals and trumpets that unfold within a generation. We're staring down the sixth seal/sixth trumpet, our demise, not past seals that don't apply. The context is off.

There are resurrections, but no man made "rapture", Ezekiel 21:1-4 "both the righteous and the wicked die". Luke 17:34-37 "Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together"; they are dead.

Revelation 6:9-11 The fifth seal saints were told when their brethren, the 144,000 Revelation 11:7 who died like they did; that judgment of those on the earth will be done at the seventh trumpet when time is up. They OT saints were told to rest "a little season", which lasts from the fifth seal through the seventh trumpet. At the end of the thousand years, the devil is loosed "a little season" as well, Revelation 20:3 God and satan have balance because the devil is a counterfeiter.

Daniel 9:27 is about the last week of the 70 week prophesy.

Jesus received 3.5 years of power the first half of the week and was cut off in the MIDST of the week. Then, at the sixth trumpet, day of the Lord, comes a beast surprise attack on Israel (both houses), at which time anti-christ places the abomination that makes desolate (nuclear for one, invasion for the other), beginning his 3.5 year reign of terror. At the seventh trumpet, Jesus Messiah is standing on Mount Zion with His army of resurrected saints.

Turkey, by description, is one of 3 nations in the beasts confederacy that gets plucked up by anti-christ. He takes the nations surrounding Israel, and ironically, mirroring the 'greater Israel project'.

The fifth trumpet started tribulation

The sixth trumpet starts the great tribulation.

The seventh trumpet Jesus, returns to destroy the sixth trumpet army.

Alex N,

The saints are in 7 Chapters of Revelation, hidden in allegories. You see them in passing, but can't ID them. The saints are overlooked, and are the building blocks of the next age.

In Rev 7:1-8 they are being sealed before the great tribulation. In the next immediate set of verses, 9-14, we see them again, after the great tribulation, resurrected and standing around the throne in heaven.

The fifth seal saints, Revelation 6:9-11, were told to wait for their fellowservants (144,000 saints) to die in judgment of those on earth.

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Who knows any of it?

Interceding on behalf of others is called intercessory prayer. It's not a quick kind of prayer. It's standing in another's place and praying on their behalf. It's done in a closet, which means we do not boast.

Scripture tells us that Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father, and ever lives to intercede for The Saints: those who are saved and those who will be saved.

We join our prayers with Jesus's.

Intercession is prayer that pleads with God for your needs and the needs of others. But it is also much more than that. Intercession involves taking hold of God's will and refusing to let go until His will comes to pass.

Intercession is warfare -- the key to God's battle plan for our lives. But the battleground is not of this earth. The Bible says, "We are not fighting against humans. We are fighting against invisible forces and authorities and against rulers of darkness and spiritual powers in the heavens above" ( Eph. 6:12).

Intercessory prayer takes place in this spiritual world where the battles for our own lives, our families, our friends and our nation are won or lost.

My comment:

There is strength in numbers. Five people in a church room interceding together can make a huge difference. Not only do we BIND evil, we LOOSE the power of heaven to fight for, release captives (to sin), heal the sick, release blessing according to Gods will.

This subject requires some book reading to prepare. We need more people to learn of this kind of prayer.

They made a movie about it, some years back. Walmart might have it? The War Room

Mishael

There is no man who can stop Him. Perhaps Jesus' High Priestly Prayer John 17 can. Remeber they two was One.

Just a muse on the next big attack, in these end-times....just my thoughts to pass time.

If the fifth trumpet, Revelation 9:1-11, was 9-11-01 the war on terror,

will the sixth seal, Revelation 6:14, open on 6-14, or June 14th?

The US govt is crafty smart to choose relevant dates for military campaigns.

Whenever Revelation 6-14 happens, it should serve as notice that the sixth trumpet is coming.

What patriot (man) can stop the judgement of God?

Ronald,

You talk my language, we share the same interpretations. I told you a while ago that Christ had the first 1/2 of the week, and anti-christ had the second 1/2 of the week. The seven years prophesy is spread out over 2,000 years. That made sense to you, so instead of sticking to your own idea, you adopted it.

5th trumpet: ( Revelation 9:1-11) was 9-11-01. It was the US army that came out of the smoke like locusts to kill those without the seal of God in their foreheads (Muslim's). The US army didn't hurt any tree or green thing because the dessert has none (vs 4). The war on terror is over, troops are withdrawing ( Isaiah 33:1). We are awaiting the 6th seal, watching Revelation 17 simultaneously play out.

6th seal: ( Revelation 6:14) I see US/Israel attacking Iran's nuclear facility, a nuclear reaction, moving mountains. Scroll = mushroom cloud. Iran is the only recognized nuclear power in the ME, Israel's arch enemy, they have been talking about bombing Iran for 40 years, and they are always 6 months away, so the claim has merit.

Then, after a waiting period, there is a calm, a day with blue skies, and then the beast Russia strikes ( Jeremiah 15:7-9), changing the world forever. This is the day of the Lord ( Ezekiel 21). In the self-same hour that Babylon is taken. the earthquake opens up Israel to the beast invasion ( Revelation 6:12). This scripture is telling ( Luke 21:20-24) when Israel is attacked, where is the US to defend them? The US received ( Matthew 24:15). The beast, and his false prophet, China, will rule the world, fight bitterly, and eventually succumb to Christ Jesus at the last trumpet.

If we are in the end-times, shouldn't these prophesies manifest themselves before our eyes? Shouldn't they make themselves known? Yes, to those with understanding.

Ronald,

You are on the right track. I will add that Revelation 6 covers 6 seal events prior to the day of the Lord, 6th trumpet. Uniquely in ( Revelation 6:12), the 6th seal earthquake becomes the 6th trumpet moon to blood, and sun to sackcloth of hair (from smoke of attack on Babylon), at the day of the Lord.

The tell is vs 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Christ said the attack on Babylon would be a surprise, on a normal sunny day. There must be a small amount of daylight between ( Revelation 6:14) and ( Revelation 6:12). From the vs 14 "scroll" to the 6th trumpet, just past Revelation 6, could be a year, a month, a day and an hour? ( Revelation 9:15). It is very interesting.

Chris,

Don't forget that no matter what, anti-christ receives 42 months of absolute power. Christ had 42 months, anti-christ gets 42 months.



Ezekiel 38:1-17 is within the 6th trumpet time frame, and vs 18-23 speak of the 7th trumpet. Ezekiel 39 is a continuation. Revelation is choppy, many sections read backwards in time. ( Revelation 6:14) has to happen before ( Revelation 6:12) because vs 12 describes the "iconic" day of the Lord smoke.

Keep your mind on Christ, and good things will happen. Till tomorrow.

Chris,

I study in with wonderment, no fear, but I know what you mean.

The judgment is against Babylon, and the rest of the world, but specifically 2 lands. The world past the 6th trumpet will be a curse.

When America receives the abomination of desolation ( Isaiah 13, Isaiah 47, Joel 2:1-11, Revelation 18), Israel is invaded at the earthquake ( Revelation 6:12) and taken.

Ezekiel prophetically gives the blueprint that 2 lands, both houses of Israel (Israel & Judah) are to be attacked by Gog, Esau, king of the north, Russia, and soundly taken.

( Ezekiel 21:19-20)

19 Also, thou son of man, appoint thee two ways, that the sword of the king of Babylon may come: both twain shall come forth out of one land: and choose thou a place, choose it at the head of the way to the city.

20 Appoint a way, that the sword may come to Rabbath of the Ammonites, and to Judah in Jerusalem the defenced.



Anti-christ rules everything. He rebuilds the temple in Jerusalem where he claims to be God. Jesus said, "Israel will be trodden underfoot 42 months by the Gentiles."

( Luke 21:24) And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

( Ezekiel 21:12) Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall be upon all the princes of Israel: terrors by reason of the sword shall be upon my people: smite therefore upon thy thigh.

"smite upon thy thigh" is a reference to Jacob receiving a wound in the 'hollow of his thigh' after wrestling the angel for the birthright. It coincides with the end-times because the great tribulation (6th trumpet) is referred to as Jacob's time of trouble. America is co-lead for the house of Israel. The Ashkenazim (Japheth) in Israel represent Judah ( Gen 10:2-3).

Prepare for the 6th trumpet, judgment day. God's people are in trouble.

T Levis

I noticed you posted Mark 13:24 Please allow me to show you where that scripture fits in. It describes the sixth trumpet, day of the Lord strike. Mark 13:24 kicks off the day of the Lord with smoke. Compare it with these other scriptures describing the same event: Revelation 6:12, Joel 2:1-11, and we see 2 lands (America/Israel) are militarily covered like a cloud: Ezekiel 38:9, Ezekiel 38:16

Everything ties in and quite a bit of it reads backwards in time.

I've spent a few days going through the comments section and I'm really surprised that 99% of the comments are about New Testament protocol. Why are there no Old Testament buffs out there? Haven't you had enough of affirmations, much of it based on faulty doctrine? How is it nobody respects the prophets enough to read them and have an opinion on them? How are you supposed to understand the end times if you don't know the times you live in?

For those that are interested would find a light to know some simple hidden truths, like the earthquake in Revelation 6:12 is the same earthquake described in Revelation 11:13. You would know that if you've taken the time to think it through. Nothing is handed to you, except maybe that one.

If I can't exchange prophetic thoughts in this prophetic time, then my time here will be very limited.

Please see these references: Mark 9:1-7, Matthew 17:2, Matthew 28:3, Luke 9:29, Revelation 19:11-16, Revelation 1:14, Mark 16:5, John 20:12, Acts 1:10, Ecclesiastes 9:8, Revelation 3:4,5, Revelation 7:9-17, Revelation 20:11, Isaiah 1:18, Revelation 6:2,11, Revelation 9:18, Daniel 11:35, Revelation 4:4, Daniel 7:9, Revelation 2:17, Daniel 12:10,

John 4:35,

But Also : Genesis 40:16-23, Joel 1:7, Leviticus 13, Revelation 15:6,

Hopefully these are helpful.

In this passage; it would seem that the "sanctified ones" who "rejoice in my highness" would be none other than God's Resurrected Saints arriving toward the end of the Tribulation; to follow in the destruction of Babylon following Christ's triumphant return where He alone will "trod out the grapes" as shown in Isaiah 63:3; and also indicated in Revelation 14:9. There are; no doubt preparatory stages for this; for even in the sixth seal judgment of Revelation 6:12 we see the knowledge of the peoples of the earth of the judgments of both the Father and the Son; and events similar to verse 10 of this chapter. Other verses such as verse 13 could be both seal judgment earthquakes and the later one which comes at Babylon the Great's destruction or indeed at Armageddon. It would seem that there is a destruction of a literal city first; then the whole world system later. Armageddon; the gathering together of all nations also will be associated with people from one end of the earth to another being killed at around the same time as well. Whether the USA is indicated; or what seems to be a new planned mega-city in the Arabian vicinity (30 times the size of New York City run by drones is the claim); we see a push in that region of the world for an ecumenical unification of the 3 monotheistic faiths in the cards being planned by the Pope and others in short order. Still other verses would seem to indicate that Israel's still greater prosperity in gold and silver; and worldwide trade is yet to come-this is probably bolstered further by the tremendous natural gas resources as yet untapped due to conflicting claims of ownership by surrounding nations. The recent Gulf States plans for economic cooperation with Israel and the Saudi's not far behind is another indication of the likelihood that the geographic region of ancient Babylon may once again become a reality as to being a major area of trade. In any event verse 11 and 12 show the worldwide end of the age judgment

A day unto the LORD,

Genesis 1:5, in chronological order of the Bible, maybe not exactly Chronological of actual dates of oldest to newest. 1st reference of day is evening & morning 1st day. Also light day & darkness night. Scientificly can be referenced to earths rotation being a day, approximately 24 hrs. That also in itself isn't completely finite, that's why we have time changes throughout the year spring & fall & leap-year in addition. In that day of creation was the determination as the rotation of the earth? Interestingly the sun & moon were not yet created, Genesis 1:16, therefore was the light from GOD? It does not specify the rotation nor exact hours. Yet classified as "the first day"

Genesis 2:4, it is quoted "in the day that the LORD God made the earth, and the heavens" as you ask? Here may possibly be the 1st time we can differentiate day being a moment of time, because the previous chapter already clarified/classified 1st day, 2nd day, etc.

Genesis 2:17, Genesis 3:5,

Genesis 3:8, this may be the perfect example of clearly being 1 actual moment of a 24hr day. It would be interesting to know the different words used for each example from ealier translations & languages. To really study this more thoroughly.

Genesis 3:17 appears to be the 1st time in our translation & English wording that day is plural in multiple yet it was assumed previous as multiple yet as a single moment therefore classified as "a day" Genesis 5:2,

Again we see it Genesis 5:4,5,

Going further outside of Genesis; Luke 6:22-23, also being a moment not necessarily 1 rotation of earth. Luke 10:12, Luke 12:28, Luke 12:46, Luke 17:24, Revelation 6:17,

2 Peter 3:8,10, reading in context 2 Peter 3,

1 Corinthians 13:9-13, Colossians 1:26, there are principles here that help us understand we don't know everything here on earth in the flesh.

Hopefully this is helpful

Rick,

I appreciate your candid honesty; my associates would've answered that question in defense of America, with glowing patriotic stories of our might. Some answer falsely because of reprisals.

America, the counterfeiter, tried to act the beast in Daniel 7:20, when they took three of their own towers on 9/11. "His look" was more stout above his 10 kingdoms is Russia, the beast, king of the north, Esau, having 11 time zones of stout. 1991's USSR deadly wound that became the mighty Russian Federation, Revelation 13:3

So, after the 9-11 attacks, General Wesley Clark announced this to the world: Global Warfare:"We're going to take out seven countries in five years: Iraq Syria Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan and Iran."

So after three NY towers were taken, the US announced it would topple seven countries (7 + 3 towers = 10) in five years, Revelation 9:10. This action occurs all within the fifth trumpet. The US is diabolical and uses the occult to make their every political move, they look in the liver, Ezekiel 21:21

Watch for the sixth seal to start peeling off when America attacks Iran's nuclear facility ( Revelation 6:14). Then we'll be on short time for what God's chosen northern army, Joel 2:11, has in its advanced arsenal. 13 months, 25 hours of coordination and preparation for our visitation.

Sacha,

Would you believe I made a mistake? I did: Revelation 6:14 scroll comes before Revelation 6:12 earthquake. So sorry my kind friend of Jesus.

Very interesting comment Grace. I found it very interesting as to point number 1 and the use of the Lazarus story.

I am not a Bible scholar, not even close. I ask for the God Yahweh to lead me to the truth He will provide for me. Yes, I do not believe all scripture has the same meaning for all believers; it is tailored to the individual.

With that stated, I question the verses used in your first point in that there is no scriptural basis for the story of Lazarus being more than a parable to emphasize the difference in eternity between the believer, even though I find no evidence Lazarus was described as even a devout Jew. But the rich man most likely was due to being rich.

Lazarus being on the bosom of Abraham was a ploy to magnify the revered position of the devout Jew - descended from Abraham. The rich man being separated from Abraham would be the ultimate blow to a Jew - loss of contact with the father of the Jews.

The story of Lazarus has nothing to do with the immediate passing of the spirit to either heaven or paradise. It is simply an allegory to emphasize the correct use of wealth to care for the unfortunate.

This parable has a twofold message to the audience. First, the social position of a person has no relevance to God's view of the individual. Second, neglect of the needs of a fellow human will not go unnoticed by God in His judgment of an individual.

Reread the complete chapter of Luke 16. This is imperative to understand the context and purpose of the story of Lazarus. Christ was speaking of the misuse of resources given to one individual by God in respect to caring for the needs of the unfortunate.

Your use of Revelation 6:9-11 is also interesting in that just when on the judgment timetable did it occur.

I would be most interested in your interpretation of Ephesians 4:9.

I enjoyed your comments, however, I fail to see where the first resting place of the spirit is clarified.

1 Thessalonians 5:23

Precious brother Chris says: "I cannot find a suitable answer for," and asks Great Questions:

Where does the spirit of man go? Ecclesiastes 12:7 cp James 2:26

me: Does the soul also depart? Genesis 35:18

Is there a holding place for such? And where could this place be?

1) Before The Resurrection Of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, the paradise 'hold' was in "the heart {lower parts} of the earth" Matthew 12:40 Ephesians 4:9, Abraham's bosom, across a chasm from the 'torment' hold Luke 16:19-31 cp Luke 23:43

2) After The Resurrection Of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, paradise is now with The Throne Of God {Third Heaven?}, and Body Of CHRIST 'members' Immediately, upon physical death {'sleep' is the metaphor for the 'dead body'} "Depart to be WITH our Blessed God And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST!" 2 Corinthians 5:6,8 Philippians 1:21,23 'Confirmed' By:

3) ...Those 'asleep In JESUS'..." {metaphor for 'resting' in JESUS}, "...Will God {JESUS} Bring With HIM!" 1 Thessalonians 4:14 At our Great GRACE Departure! 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Amen?

4) Is the "sleep/rest" UNconscious? Scripture?: Luke 16:19-31 cp Revelation 6:9-11

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Genius 1:16

Amos 5:8

1 Corinthians 15:14

Genius 2:4

Psalms 115:16 (space) the lack of breathable atmosphere, radiation, medical complications?

Psalms 147:4

Psalms 136:9

Revelation 6:13

Job 25:5

Job 9:7

Job 22:12

Psalms 8:3

Joel 2:10 Eclipse? Ezekiel 32:7 , Isaiah 50:3

Isaiah 13:10

Isaiah 40::22

Hopefully these scripture verses help you better research the Bible & what more it says about Earth, and space. There are more.

Elaine,

The HOLY SPIRIT revealed to me, one day after sometime pondering, that it was: Jesus

That was the Kingdom representation on earth, that suffered violence

& the Violent took Him by force, was it also Prophetic to what was about to happen to Him? & other people that belong to the Kingdom of Heaven? Also the Prophets that suffered violence previously.

John 10:30 -31

Mark 1:4

Matthew 4:17

Luke 17:21

Luke 17:25

Mark 14:46

Mark 14:48 -49

John 18:19

Matthew 20:19

Luke 13:34

Revelation 6:9 -11

Precious 2nd Corinthians 5, Excellent verses about the 'dead In Christ' IMMEDIATELY "in His Presence - Scripture Also Has This:

Php 1:21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die IS GAIN.

Php 1:23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to Be WITH Christ; which is FAR BETTER:

I see no Scriptural 'Reason' to interpret death as 'soul [unconscious] sleep WITH the body in the ground,' some Even believing in 'NON existence' {crazy, eh?}, With Scriptural Confirmation of:

"souls that are Conscious and crying out" ( Revelation 6:9-11) Amen?

Please Be RichlyEncouraged, Enlightened,Exhorted, and Edified!

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You know a generation is roughly 22-33 years, or even a Biblical 40 years in the desert. So 1948 doesn't add up to the 5th trumpet description of war. No doubt WWI & WWII were both for the benefit of Israel, but 9/11 significantly stands alone.

The exact time anti-christ strikes is given ( Jeremiah 15:7). He is the spoiler at NOONDAY, 3 pm, the falling away when Babylon is taken with violence. In the self-same hour, Israel is taken under the cover of darkness, 11 pm local, following the ( Revelation 6:12) earthquake ( Luke 21:20-24). You got the season right, before the harvest.

You are better off discovering these truth on your own, not through worn out published theories. The truth is within you.

What more of a sign do the unbelievers need to be given to see prophesy unfold? You recognize the grizzle, but not the steak: 9-11-01 was the 5th trumpet, showcased in Revelation 9:1-11. It's obvious why are leaders chose that date, the same date Jews remember the destruction of both temples (Tisha b'Av), the assumed date of Jesus' birth. What else could it have been but the beginning of sorrows? The description of the war on terror takes us up to this very day, to the tail end of the 5th trumpet.....so how could you overlook such a catastrophic event that has dramatically changed our world? How can you deny the 5th trumpet order when it has been painfully played out over the past 20 years?

We are currently staring down the 6th seal ( Revelation 6:12-14) leading us into the day of the Lord, 6th trumpet when 1/3rd of the population dies from anti-christ's global attack.

Jesus' return at the time of the end is at the 7th trumpet, approximately 42 month after the 6th trumpet (anti-christ's rule). Jesus, with a new name, soundly defeats anti-christ ( Revelation 11:15).

The Bible has an order of prophetic events that unfold in their given time. If you are looking for Jesus Christ to show Himself in the clouds before prophesy is fulfilled, you are doing yourself and the Word a great disservice. How is it possible for 7th trumpet Jesus (Messiah) to show up before 6th trumpet Jesus (who comes like a thief to lay the land desolate)? Everything you profess has to fit in these established parameters, or you are preaching you own will. If you learn the last 3 trumpets, know where events fit in, you will begin to understand the order of the revelation of Jesus Christ.

The 5th seal saints are the fellowservants of the one hundred forty four thousand sealed saints, also dressed in white robes. The 2 witnesses die in the same manner as their 5th seal fellowservants, and are taken up to heaven ( Revelation 7:9).

( Revelation 6:9-11) And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

I long for the day of the Lord when the haughty get lowered, with a flame on every face. I understand what happens that day, I'm not taken by surprise, unlike those who think it to be a good day. I've had it up to my nostrils with the stench of US and world corruption, murder and mayhem. When God visits the backsliding whole house of Israel, their spoiling and treachery will come to a violent end. Esau, with God on His side, will be brought forth to obliterate Jacob to dust. I bet you've read it many times without understanding that the prophets were talking about us. So the day of the Lord will come, and the abomination of desolation will deliver fire from the south to the north, fulfilling God's Word.

Everything you hold dear about America, Jesus greatly despises. You stand in opposition to those that dwell in heaven. No matter how bold your words are, they fall short of what's written. Mystery Babylon America runs the show with her allies in crime, Europe, otherwise known as Babylon proper. Devices will darken every kingdom. The whole house of Israel used to be the head, but have since transitioned into the tail. When America/Israel bombs Iran's blossoming nuclear facility ( Revelation 6:14), know that ( Revelation 6:12) will soon follow. Do you notice that the 6th seal, vs 12, kick starts the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord? It's gonna be the greatest show on earth, bringing baldness and clean teeth. You should let go of her, come out of her, stop defending her.

( Revelation 6:12) And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

Count me among them that break out in song when America's plot to rule the world from Jerusalem for a thousand years gets its due comeuppance. Good riddance 'greater Israel project'.