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5115. toxon

Strong's Concordance

toxon: a bow

Original Word: , ,

Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter

Transliteration: toxon

Phonetic Spelling: (tox'-on)

Definition: a bow

Usage: a bow.

crown (krown)

1. Any structure, normal or pathologic, resembling or suggesting a crown or a wreath.

2. DENTISTRY That part of a tooth that is covered with enamel, or an artificial substitute for that part.

Synonym(s): corona [TA] .

[L. corona]

Medical Dictionary for the Health Professions and Nursing Farlex 2012

corona Any structure resembling a crown.

Collins Dictionary of Medicine Robert M. Youngson 2004, 2005

Precious friend, The Word Of God's Truth assures us we can have Confidence in our and loved ones' death, who are In CHRIST!:

"We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, AND to be present With The LORD." ( 2 Corinthians 5:8). Scriptural Confirmation:

Conscious "souls IN HEAVEN":

(1a) In heaven, John says: "I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for The Word Of God" ( Revelation 6:9)

(1b) "And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O LORD, Holy and True, dost Thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?" ( Revelation 6:10) "crying with a loud voice IS consciousness, Correct? More Confirmation:

(2) What about the "members of the Body Of CHRIST, Today, who depart from the body, in death" to be "asleep In JESUS"?

Are they not "With CHRIST, In Heaven," as Paul states?:

a) "For to me to live is Christ, and to die IS GAIN." ( Philippians 1:21)

b) "For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and TO BE WITH CHRIST; which is FAR BETTER:" ( Philippians 1:23)

c) who Exactly, does "[CHRIST] God Bring WITH HIM" At our Great GRACE Departure?:

"For if we believe that JESUS died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in JESUS Will God BRING With HIM." ( 1 Thessalonians 4:14)

"[CHRIST] WHO Died for us, That, Whether we wake OR sleep, we should LIVE TOGETHER WITH HIM!" ( 1 Thessalonians 5:10) Amen? Hope this helps!

Please be Richly Encouraged And Edified!!

DARTS

2 Samuel 18:14

Then said Joab, I may not tarry thus with thee. And he took three darts in his hand, and thrust them through the heart of Absalom, while he was yet alive in the midst of the oak.

2 Chronicles 32:5

Also he strengthened himself, and built up all the wall that was broken, and raised it up to the towers, and another wall without, and repaired Millo in the city of David, and made darts and shields in abundance.

Job 41:29

Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

Ephesians 6:16

Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

DARTS

2 Samuel 18:14

Then said Joab, I may not tarry thus with thee. And he took three darts in his hand, and thrust them through the heart of Absalom, while he was yet alive in the midst of the oak.

2 Chronicles 32:5

Also he strengthened himself, and built up all the wall that was broken, and raised it up to the towers, and another wall without, and repaired Millo in the city of David, and made darts and shields in abundance.

Job 41:29

Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.

Ephesians 6:16

Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

NOTE: the word Corona is not in the Bible. You can Google, but

If you are referring to the Sun or the corona virus, there are 3 scriptures that DO name China and the Middle East Palestinian nations as places where plagues have come from:

3 PLAGUES IN THE BIBLE FROM ASIA & MIDEAST

Revelation 9:14-18

Matthew 24:14

Isaiah 49:12

China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, and Corona virus; which has killed before. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet.

Can you provide proof of this please? I can't find anything. All translations mention nothing of darts or corona.

Precious friend, Adam, said: "I think the phrase absent from body, present with the Lord is a good example of that [telephone game]. Because if you actually read the verse, Paul did not say what people assume he said."

Of course, The Scriptures Actually Say:

"We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, AND to be present With The LORD." ( 2 Corinthians 5:8). Who wouldn't WITH "Paul's CONFIDENCE, "RATHER Be WITH CHRIST"?

Is there really "soul sleep, UNconsciousness," or, as some extremists think, "annihilation" ["ssua"] when "we are absent from the body."? We Must prayerfully "compare spiritual With spiritual, With The Blessed Holy Spirit As TEACHER" ( 1 Corinthians 2:13), for the Full Picture = "What SAITH All The Scriptures" in this doctrine?:

(1a) In heaven, John says: "I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for The Word Of God" ( Revelation 6:9)

(1b) "And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O LORD, Holy and True, dost Thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?" ( Revelation 6:10) = NO "ssua" here, Correct?

(2) So, what about the "members of the Body Of CHRIST, Today, who depart from the body, in death"? Why are they not "With CHRIST, In Heaven," as Paul states?:

a) "For to me to live is Christ, and to die IS GAIN." ( Philippians 1:21)

b) "For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and TO BE WITH CHRIST; which is FAR BETTER:" ( Philippians 1:23)

c) who Exactly, does "[CHRIST] God Bring WITH HIM" At our Great GRACE Departure?:

"For if we believe that JESUS died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in JESUS Will God BRING With HIM." ( 1 Thessalonians 4:14)

Only One Conclusion: we depart, in death, ie: "absent from the body, AND [IMMEDIATELY Are] present With The LORD JESUS CHRIST," Correct, Adam? Thus:

"[CHRIST] WHO Died for us, That, Whether we wake OR sleep, we should LIVE TOGETHER WITH HIM!" ( 1 Thessalonians 5:10)

Please be Richly Encouraged And Edified!!

The word bow translated down in the roots means

Poisonous dart, and the word crown means Corona

He conquers with a virus and a vaccine

Misheal,

Sixth trumpet Jesus has given us the season, and the time of day that anti-christ will attack Israel. (thief)

Seventh trumpet Jesus no one knows, but anti-christ only has 1260-1335 days. (Messiah)

What does 1988 say for the rapturists?

The next event you should be looking for is ( Revelation 6:14), the sixth seal is going to crack backwards from vs 14 - vs 12.

Dianne,

Look at this piece of the mystery, then tell me about it.

Revelation 7 begins with the 144K being sealed for 42 months (vs 4), immediately after this (vs 9) 42 months have passed, and the 144k are in heaven (vs 14). These 144k are the only firstfruits ever spoken of. Their purpose is far greater than what they are given credit for simply because they are concealed in allegory.

( Revelation 7:4) And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

vs 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with WHITE ROBES, and palms in their hands;

vs 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Two witnesses are the 144k in heaven ( Revelation 11:12) ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17) ( Revelation 14:1-4)

There's more to reveal between the 144K and the fifth seal saints:

( Revelation 6:9-11) And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And WHITE ROBES were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

A little season = fifth seal-seventh trumpet

( Revelation 7:13) And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in WHITE ROBES? and whence came they? (fellowservants)

144k = ( Revelation 7:15)

Ronald L Whittemore,

There is a literal Beast & Babylon established in our time, they are two kings, and you should know who they are before one spoils the other. You will know them by their fruit. You haven't thought Revelation out in modern day terms, symbolism throws you off. It will be much easier to place the abomination of desolation in America ( Isaiah 47) while simultaneously, Israel suffers ( Revelation 6:12) and invaded from all sides by the beast army ( Ezekiel 38:1-17). Science can create earthquakes, like HAARP. How else is anti-christ going to do what Napoleon and Hitler couldn't do?

satan cast down from heaven? Didn't Jesus say satan was the god of this world? Jesus returns to take control of all kingdoms from satan, right? So, how is satan thrown to earth when it is already his domain? Isn't that allegory? Doesn't the Letter lets ( Joel 2) satan lets Jesus (day of the Lord) lets the beast take Babylon with violence?

Let's be honest, If I was posting as Jesus, and tore down every ill conceived doctrine you held dear, would you take heed, or would you curse me for insulting your brand of Christianity?

Dianne,

I will give a near-future tell: US/Israel will bomb Iran's nuclear facility ( Revelation 6:14).

I can't give a date, but there will be some time inbetween it and ( Revelation 6:12).

Hey, wait a second here, why does the vs 14 scroll come before the vs 12 earthquake with the sun black and moon blood? That is a riddle of itself

If what I say doesn't happen, I will take a vow of silence, apologize in hand sign. If it comes to pass, I will rub it in so much that you will welcome the 6th trumpet. Another riddle.

why does elijah not open the seal in heaven? reply 8min back

OASEAS IS A GOOD NAME FOR YOU, on an island to yourself with a strange Bible. These words help me from jumping out the window like a banker.

"What does the Word of GOD say? There was a multitude of angels in the Garden of Eden and there was also a ruler in Eden, a Cherub. They all rebelled against GOD - the Word is GOD - and they corrupted themselves as is wwritten in Jude 1:v.6-7: 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate(celestial/spiritual estate), but left their own habitation (they left their celestial nature), he -GOD- hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the Judgment of this great Day. (the LORD's Day)."

Jude 6 is not speaking of the Lord's day, nor the day of the Lord; this is the last battle is known as:( Revelation 16:14) "....the battle of that great day of God Almighty." It is the same last battle before seventh trumpet judgment as promised to the OT saints in white robes. ( Revelation 6:11) And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. And alas ( Revelation 11:12) And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

"7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner (IN LIKE MANNER OF THE ANGELS IN EDEN), giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE."

Thank you for leading me to Jude. The angels didn't fornicate in the garden of EDEN, angles have no genitalia. Also, I would like for you to take notice, and tell president Bide to stop DACA because it's evil, says so in the Bible.

( Jude 1:8) Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Richar Craft,

For the fun of it, plug in September eleventh two thousand one as the 5th trumpet, it fits. That puts us just before ( Revelation 6:14) "scroll". See if 9/11/01 makes sense as to how we've reached this current state of tribulation, to where super powers are flexing for battle.

Follow Revelation 9:4: the 5th trumpet army (US) was commanded to not hurt the grass or green thing, or any tree of which there is none in the desert. US + allies killed Muslims who did not have God's seal in their foreheads (non-Christians). That is the allegory of what happened during "the war on terror".

The 5th trumpet Revelation 9:1-11 was 9-11-01 and depicts the (US) under attack, the (US) army going off to battle. It reads allegorically like what happened to this day. The date to scripture are reverse identical. Then, in the second half of the chapter, Revelation 9:13-21, the 6th trumpet (day of the Lord) brings a new, more powerful (Russian) beast army that stomps out the 5th trumpet (US) army.

Constantly think the story through, and in context to shape and refine your views.

Sacha,

Sweet Sweet Sacha,

Perhaps you see a reflection of yourself in what I am not.

Now i will take you deeper when prophets were taken in the spirit, and saw.

Will my Revelation 6:13-14 vision hold true, got a better one? Then you'll be obligated to listen to old Hurty. I can warn you of Revelation 6:12 earthquake, Revelation 18:6 (if it takes 4.5 bombs to destroy Mystery Babylon, the beast will use 9).

You read Isaiah, he describes Mystery Babylon America being overtaken: It's not too hard to see from descriptions who the rogue nation is from the iron and clay. What end-time nation continually causes war? The Arab world will celebrate at their fall. A whole new world is on the way, one that doesn't include America.

( Isaiah 14:6-8)

6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

What will Briton do when they see America (Mystery Babylon) smoking from afar at the day of the Lord? In darkness, you will clothe yourselves in trembling.

( Ezekiel 26:16-18)

16 Then all the princes of the sea shall come down from their thrones, and lay away their robes, and put off their broidered garments: they shall clothe themselves with trembling; they shall sit upon the ground, and shall tremble at every moment, and be astonished at thee.

17 And they shall take up a lamentation for thee, and say to thee, How art thou destroyed, that wast inhabited of seafaring men, the renowned city, which wast strong in the sea, she and her inhabitants, which cause their terror to be on all that haunt it!

18 Now shall the isles tremble in the day of thy fall; yea, the isles that are in the sea shall be troubled at thy departure.

Sacha,

Thank you for always treating me so kindly, and exchanging pleasantries. I have a message for the near future, please lend an ear and measure.

The next definitive Biblical event will be Revelation 6:14, a "scroll" over Tehran. You know they're itching to do it.

Goin' up to the spirit in the sky (spirit in the sky)

That's where I'm gonna go when I die (when I die)

When I die and they lay me to rest

I'm gonna go to the place that's the best

Prepare yourself you know it's a must

Gotta have a friend in Jesus

So you know that when you die

He's gonna recommend you

To the spirit in the sky (spirit in the sky)

Oh he'll recommend you to the spirit in the sky

That's where you're gonna go when you die (when you die)

When you die and they lay you to rest

You're gonna go to the place that's the best

OSEAS,

"GOD said by the prophet Malachi: Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet BEFORE the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD, and he fulfilled His Word in the turn of the FOURTH to the FIFTH Day. By the way, I will also ask you one thing; and answer me: Do you believe in JESUS? What was revealed to Malachi chap.4, my Lord JESUS left clear saying unto His disciples: Matt.11:v.10-12"

Young man, I would care to place a bet that Malachi 4:5 occurs between ( Revelation 6:13-14) & ( Revelation 6:12). Since Jesus had to point him out to the others, few will know who he is this day.

Rick,

We are in the tail end of the 5th trumpet ( Revelation 9:1-11).

3 things will happen before the 6th trumpet ( Revelation 9:13-21)

*We haven't yet reached Revelation 6:13-14 scroll, nuclear facility strike

*We are promised Elijah ( Malachi 4:5) before the day of the Lord

*Leading into the day of the Lord Rev 6:12 strike

We are in the "little season" (5th seal-7th trumpet) as explained to the OT saints.

I sense we have but a short time left till 'Jesus thief' comes to deliver our judgment.

Indeed He is our Lord and saviour. Praise Him who have done everything.

Versus 16 & 17 in Revelation 6 speaks of Jesus the Lamb and his fury, not a separate god (father) and son's (JESUS) fury. This also proves that God is ONE. He indeed is the Father in creation, Son in redemption, and the Holy Ghost(poured out portion of His spirit).

Jamie, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the sixth seal....

Jesus is telling (not literally) the saints in the Old testament (those described in Hebrews 11) to wait a while longer and they would be glorified at his resurrection.

Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

This fulfils the prophecy in:

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD come.

The DAY OF THE LORD came when Christ was crucified and resurrected.

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour was there darkness over all the land until the ninth hour.

Matthew 27:51 ...And the earth did quake ....

John 19:34 ....And forthwith came there out blood...

Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the (old Testament) saints which slept AROSE,

Matthew 27:53 And came out of the grave after HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem), and appeared to many.

This is the one hundred and forty four thousand that are sealed in Revelation 7.

Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

This fulfils the prophecy in:

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away (Christ replaced it with his death) and the abomination that maketh DESOLATE (Jesus had to become your life) set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (42 months, Christ ministry on earth).

Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

There was 45 days of silence between Christ Resurrection and Pentecost then the Holy Spirit was poured out on man (Christ second coming).

Dear OSEAS,

"The battle of Armageddon is to happen now BEFORE CHRIST's COMING,against three unclean spirits like frogs: Rev. 16:v.13-16"

Oh boy, I'm having a hard time believing that the 3 evil spirits engage NOW in the last battle, BEFORE Christ returns. It is my understanding that Christ defeats the sixth trumpet beast army ( Revelation 6:13-21) at His coming.

Mark 13:29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.

Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

"a little season" is the same amount of time given in two distinct events: Revelation 6:11 & Revelation 20:3. From Revelation 6:11 we discover that "a little season" is the time between the fifth seal and the seventh trumpet. This indicates that the devil in Revelation 20:3 has the same amount of time being loosed in Rev 6:11.

Revelation 6:11And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as theywere, should be fulfilled.

Revelation 20:3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Brother Vincent,

Interpreting end time prophesy is challengingto say the least, and to attribute an event(s) to a trumpet(s) in revelation is even harder.

You list events that took place recently. Not to say these events you listed aren't earth moving world events, but what about the fall and rise of the many great empires around the world over the past centuries, these were also great events.

Jesus said that only his father knows when the end time will be, and I believe Jesus.

Many past generations also felt as we do today that the end time is right around the cornerand it didn't happen in their time - and it may not happen in our timein reality it could last another day, another year, 10 years, 100 years, or many more.

Mark 13:32

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

We do need to be prepared..because we don't know.none of us knowonly God!

God Bless

Vincent, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

In your studies of Revelation there are things revealed that can be answered by scriptures in other parts of God's word.

Christ SAYS destroy (crucify) this TEMPLE and in three days I will raise it (temple) back up (to life). He was speaking of HIS BODY.

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no TEMPLE therein (new Jerusalem): for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are THE TEMPLE of it.

Colossians 1:27 .... (revealed) MYSTERY ...CHRIST IN YOU...

This says Christ and the Father are the TEMPLE and that that TEMPLE is in you.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the TEMPLE of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells IN YOU.

Revelation 15:8 And the TEMPLE (Christ) was filled with the smoke of the GLORY OF GOD, and from his power; and NO MAN was able to enter in to the TEMPLE (CHRIST IN YOU), till the seven plagues of the seven angels were FULFILLED.

When Christ was on the cross, the seven plagues of the seven angels were POURED out on him; God wrath for all mankind was poured out ON HIM.

WE can now ENTER the TEMPLE OF GOD (Christ in you).

The seven seals, the seven plagues, the seven trumpets, the seven vials were FULFILLED at CHRIST DEATH AND RESURRECTION.

Every time a person comes to the TRUTH of Christ in you (new Jerusalem) descends from God and LIVES IN YOU.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first were passed away, and there was no more sea.

Revelation 21:3 And I heard a voice out of heaven saying, Behold the tabernacle (TEMPLE) is with men (CHRIST IN YOU) is with men, and he shall dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself (CHRIST IN YOU) shall be with them, and be their God.

Revelation 1:3 ....For the TIME IS AT HAND (now, today)

Revelation 22:10 ....For the TIME IS AT HAND (now, today)

God said wars and famine and pestilence and death would be happening all around us while his WORDS WERE BRING FULFILLED IN MAN.

God doesn't unfold his end-game so fast.

The first trumpet was WWI

The second trumpet was WWII

The third trumpet was Korea

The fourth trumpet was Vietnam

The sixth trumpet is fall of Babylon

The seventh trumpet return of Jesus Christ

Have you seen the fifth trumpet?

OSEAS,

Let's use the Bible to define who the witnesses are by association. Their mission is to record antichrists exploits; Jesus said 2 are needed to bare witness. These 2 are the sealed 12 tribes from Israel and Judah. The witnesses are in Revelation 5, 7, 11, 12, 14 & more.

Who are the candlesticks and olive trees?

( Jeremiah 11:16)

The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.

(Zachariah 4:11-14)

11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?

14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

The OT saints were given white robes and told to wait a "little season" (5th seal through 7th trumpet) when their fellowservants (144K) are killed in the great tribulation.

( Revelation 6:9-11)

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

11 And WHITE ROBES were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their FELLOWSERVANTS also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

( Revelation 7:13-14)

13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in WHITE ROBES? and whence came they?

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

The 144K sealed are the two witnesses from each house.

"New Israeli prime minister calls on world to 'wake up' on Iran nuclear deal"

Soon after Israel bombs Iran, the world will have its day of the Lord.

Is this not what you expected to see; thick black smoke?

S. Spencer,

Yes, there is a lot to think about here. The more I know about the millennium, the more I know I don't know about the millennium. It begins a new age and the story isn't understood using common sense. For instance, the saints in the millennium were resurrected, born again, of Spirit, Christ-like beings, so why all the fighting? The plausible answer is they are now fighting the spirit world, and the devil has no place among the incorruptible, and is extinguished forever. I think God made the hereafter descriptions vague because he wanted us to focus on the prophets and the Gospels.

I have trouble with a rapture theory where the church (Christians) worldwide is removed through divine intervention, before the great tribulation, and presumably resurrected. Jesus said you will find the "taken" where the vultures circle over, so they are dead bodies.

-Rapture is not in the lexicon, it's not established doctrine, and if it were established, there would be many detailed accounts of these events. There are none such accounts, only conjecture. I wouldn't call it standing on solid ground.

-( Revelation 6:10-11) The OT saints are asking how long till judgment, and are told to wait till after the sealed saints die, at the seventh trumpet ( Revelation 11:12). This is the first resurrection of the great tribulation saints.

-( 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18) is the one of the most manipulated scriptures assisting rapturists, but this occurs at the last trumpet ( Revelation 11:12).

-As the one hundred forty four thousand sealed of the Christian elite are being sealed, billions of living Christians are raptured to heaven so they won't suffer their appointed death? What is the point?

-Why are living Christians counted among the firstfruits, and not the billions who died in Christ?

-The first resurrection is only the one hundred forty four thousand saints.

-The second resurrection is for everyone else.

Brother Carl, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and his understanding.

Revelation 22:6 ...sent his angel to shew unto his servants the THINGS which must be SHORTLY DONE.

Revelation 22:10 ....for the time is at hand.

NO ONE could be BORN AGAIN until the seventh seal was opened.

Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, an lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood.

This fulfils the prophecy in:

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the terrible and great day of the Lord come.

The DAY OF THE LORD came when John the baptist began preaching the kingdom of God.

Matthew 27:54 Now when the centurion, and those that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the EARTHQUAKE and those things which were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

Matthew 27:47 Now from the sixth hour there was DARKNESS over the land until the ninth hour.

John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there BLOOD and water.

Jesus was crucified when the sixth seal was opened.

Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was SILENCE in heaven about the space of half an hour.

This fulfils the prophecy in:

Daniel 12:11 And from the time the daily sacrifice shall be take away, and the abomination that makes desolate set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred ninety days.

Forty two months, three and a half years, time and times and a half. Jesus ministry in the flesh, ending in his death and resurrection. Then silence until forty five days latter and PENTECOST.

Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the one thousand three hundred thirty days.

At Pentecost THE MYSTERY was revealed, the seal on Daniel's prophecy was opened: CHRIST IN YOU

became possible.