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Revelation 6: 16 lets you know that the 6th seal, scroll and earthquake, lead into the great and dreadful day of the Lord. The world is about to change for the worse.
Armageddon, as you sighted, occurs at the end, when Jesus returns, as prophesy is complete.
I hope that helps,
God bless
You state it is God the Father who comes down to open the seals. I only see what it says in Scripture: Revelation 5:1-7. This says the Lamb took the book, from Him that sat upon the throne, to open the seals. Revelation 6:1 begins to denote the Lamb beginning to open the seals. I don't know where you get the "Father opens the seals"? Where does it say this?
Yes there is only ONE God. The Creator of all. I worship Jesus Christ just as I worship the Father. I was saved by praying to Jesus Christ not just "God". Which I did, only praying to God, for twenty years feeling my prayers were not heard. Even the elders around the throne of God fell down before the Lamb.
So all power, authority, honor, and glory has been given to the Son. He is sitting on the Throne of God the Father. Many people fell at His feet when He walked the earth and He never told them not to as we see other angels do. The only way to the Father is through the Son. John 5:21-23, 1 John 5:11.
One question I would like to ask: Who is our Savior God or Jesus Christ? Titus 1:3-4, Titus 2:10, Titus 2:13, Titus 3:4, Titus 3:6.
"Trinity" is only a man made word meaning three in ONE pertaining to 1 John 5:7. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Another question if I may ask: What Spirit do we receive from above? The Spirit of God, the Spirit of Christ, or the Holy Spirit? The vatican has much more against it than just the "trinity" which is in Scripture. The devil is the father of lies and knows the best way to lie is mix lies with truth. Making it even harder to denote one from the other.
I follow what it says in Scripture not what any "man" teaches.
I have been tempted by the devil right after the Lord coming to me. It actually has made me stronger.
It seems you believe in a "rapture". Can you explain you thoughts on that with Scripture?
I appreciate your reply and look forward to your answers to the couple questions.
God Bless.
5:3 When they - The men of the world say.
People's Bible Notes for 1 Thessalonians 5:3
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety. When the thoughtless are persuading themselves that there is no ground for apprehension, then sudden destruction cometh upon them. Then destruction shall come as suddenly as the pangs of childbirth.
Room Comments:
"Faith Matsuoka on 1 Thessalonians 5:3
It seems to me, as I study, that "Peace and Safety" will come after a time of war. And I feel that it will be when the Anti-Christ comes on the scene and promises it. And then the Tribulation begins. What do you think?"
[Matthew] comment on 1 Thessalonians 5:3
"That is true. When the little horn, from Syria, rides into Jerusalem on a white horse, he will confirm a covenant with many for seven years. Immediately after that Jesus will open the second seal of Revelation 6:3 and they will not escape."
Mishael:
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It's plain to me that God himself spoke for himself until Jesus was born , then God said this is my son listen to him . At the baptism of Jesus .
Jesus is the express image of God . But that's as close as we can get . Jesus never said I Am God not once . Why because it would be not true , he always referred to God as father , not taking the fathers place . Yet He was equal in many ways yet less than the father by his own words . My father is greater than I . And the father gave him all things , Jesus Did not have those things until God gave them to him . Not hard to understand.
How did God use Jesus to speak to Abraham ?
Genesis 17.1
Genesis 22.16 ,17,18
Just a few serious problems with your theology.
Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had open the SIXTH SEAL, and , lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon turned to blood;
This was fulfilled at CHRIST death and resurrection. This prophecy is in:
Joel 2:3 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD COME.
The one hundred forty four thousand in Revelation 7 are the Old Testament saints that were raised with Christ at his resurrection.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints WHICH SLEPT AROSE,
Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves after HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the HOLY CITY (New Jerusalem) and appeared to many.
These Old Testament saints all died in FAITH; but, was never able to receive the promise of eternal life until Christ resurrection. This is shown in:
Hebrews 11:39 And all these, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise (eternal life).
Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some BETTER THING FOR US (eternal life), that THEY without US should not BE MADE PERFECT (accomplished by the death and resurrection of Christ).
YES, thy along with John and all other saints now IN CHRIST are MINISTERING SPIRITS; to us, HERE and NOW.
Hebrews 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, SENT FORTH to minister FOR THEM WHO SHALL BE HEIRS OF SALVATION.
This is the role of ALL IN CHRIST at the time they are GLORIFIED.
1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
The Bible is the inspired Word of God, to all people.
To rightly understand it and be able to live it daily: we must be born again, as Jesus tells Nicodemas in the Book of John, Chapter 3.
This website has a link page. Below the link you used to come in here, is a link named: Become a Christian. It tells you how to become a Believer in Jesus. To understand all spiritual truths.
Mishael
As you grow in Trust, sins that hurt your mind and heart; just confess them. Own your participation and give it all to the Holy Spirit. He will take all that pain and darkness away forever. Even if it's about someone who hurt you deeply. Give those memories to the Person who can wipe it clean. Some memories are harder than others.
Get you a red letter Edition of a King James Bible and begin reading in the New Testament; work your way to the back. Books of Proverbs and Psalms, offer Wisdom and Comfort. You are now, Gods beloved child. You are loved unconditionally. Lean into Him for your strength. All of heaven rejoices in your new beginning. Learn what Jesus is like. Come back here with your questions as you learn. Listen to some Greg Laurie videos on YouTube. He has a kind heart.
Pray this prayer to get started.
Dear God, I believe in you and that your Son, Jesus Christ, is Lord. I believe in His sacrifice for my sins and His resurrection from the dead. I repent and ask forgiveness for my sins and I'm deciding now to follow you. Please, come into my life THROUGH THE GIFT of your Holy Spirit. It is in the Lord Jesus' name that I ask and receive, Amen."
The Bible says doing these things with sincerity means you are a Christian (Christ follower) and will have eternal life in heaven.
"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13
Use caution in trusting your feelings, as feelings change. Stand on God's promises- they never change.
As you grow in Trust, sins that hurt your mind and heart; just confess them. Own your participation and give it all to the Holy Spirit. He will take all that pain and darkness away forever. Even if it's about someone who hurt you deeply. Give those memories to the Person who can wipe it clean. Some memories are harder than others.
Get you a red letter Edition of a King James Bible and begin reading in the New Testament; work your way to the back. Books of Proverbs and Psalms, offer Wisdom and Comfort. You are now, Gods beloved child. You are loved unconditionally. Lean into Him for your strength. All of heaven rejoices in your new beginning. Learn what Jesus is like. Come back here with your questions as you learn. Listen to some Greg Laurie videos on YouTube. He has a kind heart.
Pray this prayer to get started.
Dear God, I believe in you and that your Son, Jesus Christ, is Lord. I believe in His sacrifice for my sins and His resurrection from the dead. I repent and ask forgiveness for my sins and I'm deciding now to follow you. Please, come into my life THROUGH THE GIFT of your Holy Spirit. It is in the Lord Jesus' name that I ask and receive, Amen."
The Bible says doing these things with sincerity means you are a Christian (Christ follower) and will have eternal life in heaven.
"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." 1 John 5:13
Use caution in trusting your feelings, as feelings change. Stand on God's promises- they never change.
If by that you mean, 'Was God deficient in any way by Him sending out His Word to be clothed with flesh & live on the Earth?" I would say, No. If that same Word which was given to the prophets to utter to the people & by that same Word God spoke to the people by His Son ( Hebrews 1:1,2), then Jesus is & always has been God's utterance to the sons of men.
One could also ask, 'By God sending forth His Spirit to do His bidding both in the heavens & Earth, is God changed by such an absence or deficiency of that Person from within His Being?' Clearly, No. God is Spirit - His sending forth His Word or His Spirit would not mean an absence in God's Deity or Holiness, rather that both the Word & Spirit are vitally & inseparably connected to the Godhead. And this is obviously what man is unable to replicate because of the limitations of our finite being.
In like manner, that Word made flesh, also exemplified in human form, God's Love, Grace, Truth & Holiness. Without Jesus amongst them, the people not only wouldn't have had God's Lamb sent for their salvation but would not have seen that God had indeed come amongst them (Immanuel) to visibly show them His Heart of Love for them; & that Love took Him all the way to the Cross. That He has gone all out to secure their hearts for Himself - but they rather called Him a devil & crucified Him. What will their end be?
( Psalms 110:1-6) Affirms the divinity of Jesus and His part in God's plan.
1 (A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.
3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.
4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.
5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.
verses 5-6 God calls Jesus "The Lord at thy right hand", and could have easily said "The God at thy right hand". God reminds us of sixth trumpet Jesus' day, the biggest one-sided battle ever, none like it afterwards. The Lord uses kings and armies of the earth to do his will, to fulfill scripture till time is out.
He is all human and all God.
God spoke of the Word to become flesh (future) in Genesis 3:15
"15 And I will put enmity between thee (Satan), and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (Jesus Christ) shall bruise thy head (Satans legal power), and thou shalt bruise his heel. (the nail through Jesus's feet)."
When Jesus died for the sins of all mankind on the Cross, he fulfilled the Old Covenant, and ratified the New Covenant, with his blood sacrifice as the Lamb of God. Satan didn't know that or he would have prevented it.
Jesus was resurrected on the 3rd Day. Satan was stripped of the power he had stolen from First Adam. Second Adam is Jesus. Satan has no authority over Gods born again children. Only what we give him by sinning and not asking to be forgiven. 1 John.
Jesus descended into hell's prisons, took the KEYS of Death, Hell and the Grave; out of Satans hand. Then Jesus emptied hell.
The Godhead (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) live outside of Time; and they Live inside of Time.
"In Beginning," ( Gen. 1:1) is when God began the ticking of Time.
We might crab at God, "Why did YOU let this disaster happen?! God has a will, He gave free will to mankind to use for good or evil; as a Created being, Satan has an evil will. He does all the things we blame God for. Isaiah 14:12-16
We all need to remember that. Be wary and pray daily to God: Thy Will Be Done.
In Job, we see that Satan attacked Job's family first. He stirred up an F-5 tornado against them.
Let's be informed who is responsible for what.
God is Love, God is Good. He has made all Provision for us. He even gave His only begotten Son, so that we may live eternally, IF we accept Jesus as Savior and Lord? Take your SELF off the throne of your heart; and ask Jesus to be the Lord of your Life. Be conscious of WHO has your best interests in his heart. Amen?
Mishael
Titus is giving the respect, honor, and title that's due to our Lord and savior Jesus Christ.
Case closed.
Malachi Chapter 3
4 Then shall the offering of Judah and Jerusalem be pleasant unto the LORD, as in the days of old, and as in former years.
5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts.
6 For I AM THE LORD, I CHANGE NOT; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?
Comment: God corrects. He doesn't change His mind about purpose.
Malachi 3:6 (KJV) For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Being consistent in your reasoning and using the same logic give your take on these things.
As sons of our earthly father we know we were brought into this world by him and after him.
Jesus Christ is from everlasting to everlasting, Pre existence, The ending and the beginning, The Alpha and Omega, He was in the fathers bosom, He said ME and my Father are one, He said if you have seen the me, you have seen the father. He Said he's ""THE"" Almighty. Isaiah called him the Everlasting "FATHER".
Why don't you explain your case against the deity of Christ using the same Reasoning and logic.
OPEN UP AND TELL US WHAT ALL I MENTIONED WHICH IS IN SCRIPTURE MEANS TO YOU!!
WELCOMING A REPLY.
GOD BLESS.
Whereas the Bible in John chapter 1 declares that it was His Word that He sent forth and this Word was clothed with flesh. God's Spirit was still in operation whilst Jesus walked on the Earth. One instance was when Jesus chastised the Pharisees who accused Him of using Beelzebub the prince of devils to cast out devils ( Matthew 12:24-32). Jesus told them this was blasphemy when one speaks against the Holy Ghost (i.e. the Spirit's working). So here we have the Son of God & the Spirit of God at work simultaneously.
And yes, Jesus never said that He was God, but said that He was the Son of God - for that was Who He was on the Earth. But before He was sent to the Earth by God, He was God's spoken Word. If you believe that sending out the Word to become a Man is unbelievable, then how about sending out His Spirit to indwell a man, indeed, innumerable men? Paul even said in 1 Corinthians 15:47, "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven." This second Man, the last Adam, is the Lord, the One sent by the Father from out of the Father.
And Mary was a holy person, but still a sinner. You can be holy too & still be a sinner, simply because you were born with Adam's sin nature. Jesus wasn't born in that manner - He didn't have a sin nature, though Satan greatly desired Him to have one. If Mary was a special creation, then maybe she may be in the same state as the Lord, but she was a fallen human as we are.
You are not the only one to not believe in the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost being ONE. Even though it is in Scripture. If that is your view.
So what about the soul of Jesus Christ and "who" He was/is? He spake what the Father wanted Him to speak though he is not the Father but the Son.
How can anyone say that God, our Father, did not have His Son with Him for any amount of time before Christ was born here of flesh? Is not anything possible with God?
Do you know of Philippians 2:6? Stating Christ was "in the form of God" and "thought it not robbery to be equal with God".
To Glory in the Son is to Glorify the Father.
I know there are different views to this and I don't think anyone here is going to change anyone else's mind. This is not a new topic.
Please don't take my post as harsh. Let us all stay focused on the Word of God and doing the Will of our Father. Which is to follow the way of Christ.
God Bless.
John 1:1 THE WORD WAS GOD. = JESUS CHRIST IS GOD.
John 20:28 - "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."
Thomas called Jesus Christ "God."
Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let US make.."
"us" plural. If not Jesus Christ, who else? Do you believe in a different trinity or other Gods that don't include Jesus?
John 1:2
"The same was in the beginning with God."
Jesus was there in the beginning.
John 1:3
"All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."
That 100% clears it up. Jesus WAS there from the beginning, with God, and WAS God. Not God the Father, but God the Son.
Have you prayed to God and asked Him if what you believe is true and if going to Bible forums and trying to discredit Jesus is ok?
God the father of all things , is Spirit and is not a man or has flesh .
But Jesus his son has flesh . And is God manifest in the flesh , as the Son of God .
Jesus is OF GOD not God .
God is one being the father of all even Jesus . Jesus is the Son of God .
I hope this helps . So much more could be said ...
I and my Father are one (and the same).
That statement is what angered the Pharisees and those seeking Jesus's death, so much; that he was immediately taken to Herod to be put to death.
In the beginning was the WORD, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
And the Word was made flesh (Jesus) and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten (son) of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
If you are born again, the Holy Spirit seals you; He is the Spirit of Jesus Christ. He indwells you. Comforts you. He is your Teacher. He anoints you to understand scripture. He is your Helper. He is gentle, and kind. He reveals Jesus to you.
Romans 1:20
John 3
You must be born again and receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit; to comprehend spiritual truth.
Father Purposes
Jesus speaks the Word
The Holy Spirit (action) accomplishes it