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The rapture is a mystery, that is for sure !

I'm looking for the second coming of Christ in glory !

It gets me very happy !

The word rapture is not in the Bible; in any version.

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Where in the book of Revelation do you find the "raptured saints" mentioned ? No where does Revelation specify the rapturing of the saints.

Hi Tatjana,

Please note that are still some years left before the antichrist is revealed based on Daniel 11:13, and this is after the wars in Daniel 11:6-12 have taken place. I believe that the opening of the second seal will be the beginning of the wars that are written in Daniel 11:6-45, since even with this 'virus' the world is still at peace.

I think you are right and that we are seeing the beginning of the reign of the anti Christ right now

Hello Marie,

You are exactly right, this virus is fake, along with other viruses. The mask wearing, social distancing, vaccine and anything else the world is enforcing or doing for this virus is satanic, and it appears as though most people have just gone along with it. I think most people know that this virus is fake, maybe even everyone, but most people are of the devil and I believe most people are a part of this lie. I also believe that this virus was the opening of the first seal of Revelation.

Revelation 6:1-2 (KJV)

[1] And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

[2] And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Corona is latin for 'crown'. Coronavirus - 'crown'virus.

The one sitting on the white horse conquers with a bow without any arrows, which I believe means there is no actual warfare. This virus is a 'global pandemic', and has effectively 'conquered' the world: mask wearing, social distancing, businesses being closed etc.

Strong's Concordance - toxon: a bow

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance - 'From the base of tikto; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric) -- bow.'

Toxic comes from the word toxon. This virus could possibly be regarded as 'toxic', or at least the 'effects' of it.

Fabric - mask wearing - these masks, at least the common ones people wear, can essentially be seen as simple fabrics.

Mandated mask wearing - covering the face with a 'fabric'. A large amount of emphasis has been placed on wearing these masks for this virus e.g., people posting pictures with the emphasis being placed on the masks they are wearing. Masks have been required for travel, entrance to stores etc. One cannot buy or sell in person without wearing a mask where masks are mandatory, and it appears that this mask mandate is similar to the mark of the beast,...

JESUS CHRIST IS LORD..... Revelation 20:14

"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."

........ Revelation 6:14

"And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places."

... Revelation 21:1

"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea."

Daniel, may the spirit grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

You are leaving out the perimeters set fourth in the first three verses in Revelation 1-3

.....which shortly come to pass.....

....signified....

.....the time is at hand....

Revelation 22:10 And he said unto me, SEAL NOT the sayings of the prophecy of this book: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND.

The truths in this book had the same meaning 1900 years ago to those readers as it does to readers today and will have the same meaning to readers in the future.

Daniels words were sealed until the day of the Lord (first time, Christ in the flesh; second time CHRIST IN YOU in a glorified body; to those who look for him, as the Holy Spirit). The Lamb of God who only is worthy to open the seals and declare the MYSTERY of his WORKS which is CHRIST IN YOU. TRUTH, RESURRECTION, and IMMORTALITY.

Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his SECRETS UNTO HIS SERVANTS THE PROPHETS.

The answers to Revelation are hidden in the words of the prophets.

Revelation 22:19 Is a warning: are your answer coming from the prophets or a secular mind.

Lamar,

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and BREATHED into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a LIVING SOUL." Gen 2:7

The Hebrew term for a being (nefesh, "being") is often translated "soul," but the word usually refers to the whole person. The phrase living soul (nefesh khayyah, "living being") is used of both animals and human beings.

However, in this instance, we see God who "BREATHED into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a LIVING SOUL."

The Hebrew word for breath (neshamah, "breath") is used for God and for the life imparted to humans, not animals. Its usage in the Bible conveys more than a breathing living organism (nefesh khayyah). Whatever is given this breath of life becomes animated with the life from God,

1) has spiritual understanding ( Job 32:8), and

2) has a functioning conscience (Pro 20:27).

I have a question about the word "Soul", pertaining to a living soul which He made man?... can you break it down what is a "Soul"? Can you reference with scriptures.

(KJB) should be (KJV) and 'pharmakn' should be 'pharmakon'. The 'o' had an accent on it which was removed.

Daniel,

"There is vast different between inspiration and translation"

So what is your point? Of course, they refer to two different things. The Bible was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Koine Greek. How can we English speaking people understand what was written in these languages unless they are translated into English or other languages for people around the world.

Christians assert that the originals are inspired and translators do their best to convey the words and thought from one language to another. Any and all translations are not inspired, although some King James Only advocates claim that the KJV is just as inspired as the autographs.

I don't believe that quibbling over Bible vs. Scripture or Testament vs. Covenant is worth any time or effort.

I'd like to see the "errors" you claim are in the translation you've referred to.

I believe that this fake virus was the opening of the first seal of Revelation.

The word pharmacy comes from the Greek word pharmakeus, which comes from pharmakon meaning 'magician' or 'sorcerer' in Strong's concordance.

Revelation 9:20-21 (KJB)

[20] And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

[21] Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries (Strong's Greek 5333 - pharmakn), nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Revelation 6:1-2 (KJB)

[1] And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

[2] And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Corona is latin for 'crown'. Coronavirus - 'crown'virus.

A bow but with no arrows. Conquering with a bow without arrows, which I believe means there is no actual warfare. This fake virus is a 'global pandemic', and has effectively 'conquered' the world: mask wearing, social distancing etc.

Strong's Concordance - toxon: a bow

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance - 'From the base of tikto; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric) -- bow.'

Toxic comes from the word toxon.

This fake virus could possibly be regarded as 'toxic', or at least the 'effects' of it.

Fabric - mask wearing - these masks can be essentially seen as simple fabrics.

Mandated mask wearing - covering the face with a "fabric". A large amount of emphasis has been placed on wearing these masks for this fake virus e.g., people posting pictures with the emphasis being placed on the masks they are wearing. Masks have been required for travel, entrance to stores etc.

There is vast different between inspiration and translation the latter of the two is man's using his own life experience and his ability to translate the the scripture(Bible), which have several errors in it writing that the sceptics utilizes for silly argument.



Now, first and foremost, as the apostle said,"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. "

For example: number one, Bible, it only can be found on the cover, now, lookup the definition for Bible and Scriptures and you decide which is the most appropriate name for the book. And the book have two covenants, old and new, and not testaments, for the latter is distraction to the true meaning.

Four Horsemen: Book of Revelation, Zechariah and Book of John (Patmos)

The four horsemen are described as Satan's army, Conquest, War, Famine and Death. One of the horsemen, Famine, deceives Satan with the intention of working for the side of good.

Four figures in the Book of Revelation who symbolize the evils to come at the end of the world: They are often called the four horsemen of the Apocalypse=

The figure representing CONQUEST rides a white horse

WAR rides a red horse

FAMINE, a black horse

PLAGUE and PESTILENCE, (world pandemic) a pale horse. They are often called the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Personally, I believe conquest is the subverting of world governments or political power. The Antichrist goal is to produce one world government and one world religion. Also, one world money system, which the Beast will use to deceive people into taking his Mark into their foreheads or hands: in order to buy and sell goods.

Different Bible translations say of Matthew 24: plagues, pestilence. Our society calls it world pandemics. It's a disguise for the truth told to us 2000 years ago.

All these things are happening together in THIS century; Jesus told us these are the signs of the last generation of people.

Keep watch on world money systems changing to create the One World Money System. Such as bitcoins and other manipulations. Don't fall into the trap thinking governments cannot possibly de-value the money, gold, silver and precious stones, minerals.

Revelation 6:1-8

Mishael

Earl,

At the resurrection, we know about those dead in Christ, and about those who make it to the end, everyone is lifted up at the same time. I like the details of the saints below, do you know them?

-Like these:

Revelation 6:9-11 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.



-Who are their "fellow servants" also their brethren that were killed like they were?

These:

Revelation 11:7-12 .........(12)"And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

The 144,000 are the two candlesticks and the 2 olive trees that stand before God. They finished their testimony and are killed. They ascended to heaven in a cloud at the 7th trumpet to join Christ.

Missiles targeting N. America, Europe/allies will initiate the 6th trumpet (war) on earth. The allegories and metaphorical language describe what happens; the verses I gave you stem from the 6th trumpet, the closest scriptures to it.

I don't need to know the precise details about the devil being booted out of heaven when there's 16+ prophets in my head. I have a plethora of Biblical resources available that afford me resolve. I am satisfied knowing the the day of the Lord starts at the 6th trumpet, and anything beyond that is splitting hairs.

I have a feeling Revelation 6:12 will trigger the invasion of Israel. The same earthquake spot from the crucification, and 70 AD Roman invasion. The 6th seal leads into the 7th trumpet. The timing will be impeccable.

America and Israel get fleeced at the day of the Lord as destruction from the Almighty. God brings the beast Russian army with 10 toes forth to do His will against Babylon ( Ezekiel 38:4-7). In vs 7, Russia protects its allies, so expect 'Jacob's time of trouble' soon after US/Israel bomb Iran's nuclear facility ( Revelation 6:14). God has commissioned HIS beast army to annihilate the whole house of Israel within 1 hour. God says the terrors will be upon my people!!! ( Ezekiel 21:12).

A little further down, Ezekiel 21:18-20 identifies two lands chosen for destruction: Ammonites (US) and Jerusalem (Israel).

I will die a happy man knowing that America and Israel got stuffed before they succeeded in ruling the world for a thousand years from Israel, like our savior Jesus Christ will. It couldn't happen to two kinder, gentler nations. Reap the worldwind, pay the piper.

I dont know the answer but there are other meaning of the woor for bow. A bow on his heir. It also mentions a crown. That might be the reason not mentioning of the arrows. He might the King. Not sure if that what it means.

want to learn more about the four horseman

I would say to post 8 to 12 scriptures throughout the day on Facebook and Instagram (Actually read the scriptures you are posting). Go in consecutive order meaning that if you do the book of John start at John 1:1 and for each hour or every 2 hours post 1 scripture. So do John 1:1-8 for the whole day and the next day do John 9-16. If you happen to miss a scripture for that day don't try to make it up, Just do 8 for the next day from where you left off. Another thing you could do is you can post scripture of the day or scripture of the week and post it 8 to 12 times each day. Facebook allows you to use different backgrounds so this will break up the monotony. I would say join a Facebook group or a few groups and post the same scripture to each group for that hour. This way you are sowing seed or watering a seed. You are telling other people about Jesus Christ - The great commission. Lastly I also wanted to point out that if you did Not want to use Facebook. then use your thumb or finger in your traditional bible or phone bible app and computer bible app, and place your thumb or finger over each word in the bible, do this for up to 8 scriptures. you can do more if you wish. this will help to make sure you are reading at a slow pace so it will be meditation. You can say this out loud or say it in your head if you wish or you can even whisper each word. A good place to start would be Psalm 119 because that is the meditating chapter. Lastly ask God to help you to meditate in such a way that is pleasing to him.

I cannot memorize! I have found that reading scripture and learning it, while investigating it , the holy spirit will "sanctify" you, and replace your sinful flesh with the holy spirit! Along with the power of the spirit, you will learn patience, and longsuffering.

Thank you so much for making this KJV of the Bible and its WORD so available to us. It allows Holy Spirit understanding by the quickness that one can relate Scripture verse with all other relevant Scripture verses. I would love to have you help me spread the Word of God through a unique memorization program which fulfills verses in Psalm 1:2 His delight is in the law of the Lord and in His law doth he meditate day and night; and Psalm 119:11 Thy Word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

In these end time days, there are too few Christians memorizing Scripture. No wonder Christ ponders the question, Luke 18:8 I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?" I will be 95 on July 21, 2021 so I have a lot to accomplish before I go to be with Him!

Hades in Greek, or Sheol in Hebrew, is generally defined in these three ways:

a. the Grave. A place of bodily rest & decay. Acts 2:29-31.

b. a place of punishment for the wicked. Luke 16:20-23; Matthew 11:23.

c. a temporary place for the righteous dead. Luke 16:23-26. The Luke account seems to indicate that hades had two areas separating the righteous from the wicked in death. But after Jesus' death & resurrection, the righteous are no longer held there, being justified by faith, for which the Cross provided the means now which they didn't have before Christ's death.

Hades will always oppose Christ's Church ( Matthew 16:18); it must be distinguished from being just synonymous with death ( Revelation 6:8); it will one day be destroyed ( Revelation 20:13,14); Jesus has the 'keys' to it ( Revelation 1:18); & it is remains now only a temporary place of the unbelieving dead, as the Apostle Paul believed that Hades would not be his destiny, but Heaven ( 2 Corinthians 5:8).

Hopeful, may the Spirit grace you with his (spiritual) knowledge and his (spiritual) wisdom.

John 6:63 ....... the words that I ( 1 Peter 1:11,the Spirit of Christ or 1 Peter 1:21,the Holy Ghost or 2 Samuel 23:1-2, the Spirit of the Lord or Revelation 19:10,the words of Jesus) speak unto you, they (words) are spirit, and they (words) are life.

The day of the Lord is prophecy about a spiritual day; but, a day in spiritual time is not necessarily a day in natural time ( 2 Peter 3:8).

Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterwards (after the day of the Lord), that I (Spirit) will will pour my spirit upon all flesh......

Since the Spirit (Holy Ghost) was poured out on all mankind at pentecost; therefore, the day of the Lord begin at pentecost and is continuing to this day 2000 years later in natural time; but, only one day in spiritual time.

Second witness:

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon (symbolic of Christ)..... Psalm 89:35-36 And it (the throne of Christ, from the proceeding verse) shall be established forever as the moon, and as a FAITHFUL WITNESS in heaven...... Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the FAITHFUL WITNESS.......into blood before the terrible (wonderful) day of the Lord (pentecost) come.

Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he (the Lamb) had opened the sixth seal, and lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth hair, and the moon (symbolic of Christ) became as blood.....

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

Matthew 27:51 ........and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent.

John 19:34 ...and forthwith came there blood and water.

Revelation 8:1 And when he (the Lamb) had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half hour (spiritual time not natural time)

This time was the time between Christ resurrection and the day of the Lord (pentecost)

Daniel 12:11-12 45 days between vs 11 and 12

The White horse is the LAW Moses if you will, the only one in scripture riding a white horse is God, Ref-Rev-19-21.. The red horse is Christ, the rep- of the blood that flowed , That sword is the Word of God ( the word of God is a sharp two edged sword--- ) Jesus said think not that I have come to bring piece, but a sword and a mans enemy's will be them of his own household..

The black horse denotes darkness Yes, Jesus said word wile you have the light the night comes when no one can work, but think of the set of divine Balances in his hand The Barely= The old Test- the wheat the new Test, see you hurt not the Oil=Faith and wine= Spirit...These horses riders are the revealing of the WORD of GOD...? What is the 4th horse rider a rep-Of,,= You mite be surprised, he is not what you think he is , Ask the Question !!!

While both your positions are plausible, I lean more toward 1), there will be many more poor people and widespread economic hardship during the Tribulation period, yet a few rich will be able to enjoy the luxury goods, the wine and oil. The "Penny" in the KJV is the Roman silver denarius, which was a day's wage for a soldier or common laborer, as illustrated in Christ's parable of the laborers in Matthew Ch. 20. This may be describing a scenario where for many an entire day's earnings will purchase only a bare minimum of necessary food. The concentration of excessive wealth in a tiny percentage of the population and the gradual erosion of the middle class that we see today may be the beginning of this. For the first time in several generations, our children will not be as well off as we were.

A great FAMINE of food worldwide will exist during the Great Tribulation. The normal food producing cycle of planting, cultivation and harvesting will be totally disrupted because of worldwide wars and fighting. And yet the Word of God says, "Hurt not the oil and the wine.". What does this mean? There are two possible interpretations: (1. the oil and the wine represent the wealth and provisions of the RICH during the Tribulation who will provide for themselves from the dwindling resources of the earth in the Tribulation, or, it represents (2. God's provision of the OIL and WINE of His Holy Spirit to those who call out to Him for MERCY in the midst of the HELL and persecution unfolding all around them during the terrible persecution of the Tribulation. Remember Jesus's parable of the Good Samaritan? What did the Good Samaritan pour into the wounds of the man he found dying on the Jericho Road? OIL and WINE. I believe #2 is the correct interpretation of this passage in Revelation 6.

Are you referring to the mentioning of 'beasts' in the Book of Revelation?

If so, we start to read about these 'beasts', otherwise translated from the Greek, as living creatures, in Revelation chapter 4:6. You can read about their description from that verse onwards, but they seem to be located in "the midst & round about the Throne of God", signifying a very real part of the Presence & Holiness of God. Of course, the Apostle John could not see God, as no human can do, so all these visions that John received, were to show him something of the beings & activity in Heaven - and that all there, are in constant worship of the One Who lives eternally & to fulfil His Plans for the World. These 'beasts' are not angels & they are also distinct from the other beings that are in Heaven & that surround the Throne of God.

1 Chronicles 1--16. In this account it speaks of "beast"

What or who are the beast? Who are these beast?