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I like this book it is interesting I like how God is going to wipe away our tears

1- Are these the same people from Revelation 7:15-17

2- And, are these people only Jews? Or both Jews and gentiles?

My pastor said he believes the 2 witnesses and the 144 thousand will only be preaching to the Jews on earth at that time, but what i have read and what you tell me make much more sense

Hosea 14:5

"I will be as the dew unto Israel: he shall grow as the lily, and cast forth his roots as Lebanon."



1 Thessalonians 2:10

"Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe:"

HOLILY

3 1/2 years: he's setting things in place.

Final 3 1/2 years all hell and mass world murders start.

I have a book by Arthur E Bloomfield: title is How To Recognize Antichrist. It's a good source of timing information. His book, Before the Last Battle is a good one too.

It helps with understanding some of the Book of Daniel.

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How soon after the rapture, does the anti Christ

show up? Days months? I don't think it will be long.

Revelation 14:1

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb (Jesus) stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Revelation 7:4

And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Revelation 14:3

And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

Some of my favorites:

John chapter 16 is Jesus preparing his disciples for difficulty, ending with "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." (verse 33).

Acts 14:22 is an exhortation to continue in the faith through tribulation.

Romans chapter 8 is Paul's testimony on hardship and the believer's victory in Christ Jesus.

Revelation 2:8-11 is Jesus encouraging the suffering Church.

Revelation 7:9-17 shows us a great multitude come out of tribulation, redeemed by the blood of the lamb.

Matthew 19:27-28 The Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel. (How will the saints judge the 12 tribes? Because there will still be flesh and blood beings on earth when the Lord returns).

Revelation 21:1-3 (this is the Father coming down with New Jerusalem) John saw the holy city, New Jerusalem coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Revelation 21:10 John was shown the great city, the holy Jerusalem descending out of heaven from God.

Revelation 6:1-8; 12-17 Takes place during the tribulation on earth, but also speaks of Jesus AFTER the tribulation and the wrath he will bring on earth. (Reference Isaiah 2:10 and Isaiah speaks of this event in Revelation 6)

Revelation 7:1-4. 9; 13-14 the Lord will seal his servants in their foreheads. 144,000 of all the tribes of Israel. He will also save a "great multitude" which no man could number of "all" nations. (These are the people who survived the Great Tribulation, some who will have gotten converted during the tribulation)

Matthew 24:29-31 Immediately after the tribulation the Lord returns.

Revelation 19:11-14;19-21 Heaven will open, Jesus will show up on a white horse. He will judge and make war.

I know that's a lot. I hope that you will read through the scriptures on your own time.

But know this, there will only be a 3 and a half year actual tribulation period, and anyone who is alive during that time will have to try and survive it, unless they are in the place of safety on earth which the Lord will have reserved for his people...and that place is the Wilderness over in Jerusalem.

Richard,

Yes, there will be an opportunity for salvation during the Tribulation Period. Just like Mishael says, there will be evangelizing during that time. God's mercy and grace will extend during this period. And there will also be an opportunity for salvation during the 1,000-year millennial reign of Christ. That's how far God's grace extends.

During the first 3-1/2 years of the Tribulation Period, there will be two witnesses walking the streets of Jerusalem preaching the gospel. Many believe, as do I, that these two are Moses and Elijah. There will also be 144,000 Jews, 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel who will be preaching the gospel. Also, there will be an angel flying mid-heaven non-stop for 3-1/2 years warning people not to take the mark. So the whole world will be reached during that time. Those left behind will be without excuse. They will not be able to stand before God and say "we didn't know." However, they will have a chance for salvation.

If there were no chance for salvation during the Tribulation, why would God's plan be to send two witnesses, 144,000 Jews evangelizing, and an angel flying in mid-heaven warning people? If people cannot be saved during that time, what would be the purpose of preaching the gospel? It would serve no purpose. I mean, why preach a gospel message of salvation if it's impossible for people to be saved?

My ammo is the Love of God. The Lamb could have defended himself but for love he chose to give Life, even his own.

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The Holy Spirit will not be as active. There will be evangelizing by other people who missed the rapture.

The problem is the Antichrist getting his one world money system going; the Beast,

One world church and one world Leader: him. It's going to lead to receiving a Mark in your hand or forehead; to access buying power with your funds. I'd read Forbes. They are the ones pushing this one world calendar that's been in the news. Google that.

Bibles will be outlawed. Guns, I don't know. You'll have to Buy ammo now.

If you think all the current rioting is bad now; multiply that by 1000.

It was reported that in Israel someone re-did all the Palestinians names on maps, renamed to Israel properties. Genesis has the recorded deeds to the land. It is theirs.

No one has taken responsibility for that. It could be Russia & Syria that did that to further turn the world against Israel. Read JerusalemPost newspaper online; daily.

Prophesy teaches that USA will do something that will anger the whole world. That near the end, that Russia will be obliterated by God. China is working with Russia, Syria, Iran. Iran wants to take over Iraq. China is acting like they're the Antichrist but that's not true. Antichrist will most likely have Palestinian ancestry but deny it. He may not be married; doesn't have time for women?

Whatever happens it will happen quickly like it is now. Genesis 6:3, Luke 19:42, Galatians 6;16-17, 1 Peter 3:20; Psalms 78:39 to end. Read all that Bob.

Why would any of you neglect to be born again and risk going to hell, you and your family?? Can you watch yours or someone else's child be beheaded? If you don't take the Mark, you'll be beheaded. If you do take it, God will have to send you to hell.

What are you thinking? Can anyone hide from God and Antichrist? All this you see is going to be BURNED. 2 Peter 3:10-11. It'll make global warming look like a marshmallow roast. Super quakes, Wormwood Asteroid/star, super volcanoes!

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Hey Richard look at this

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

These died refusing to worship the beast and take the mark 666. They are with Christ and will live with him for the thousand year intro to the kingdom.

I would find another church if the pastor is that ignorant of scripture.

Will people be saved during the great tribulation? I heard a minister say that anyone left on earth after the rapture are finished.

Thanks

Noah and his family entered into an ark of safety prepared for them before the flood, effectively removed from the then world's destruction. Later, they were restored to a new beginning. Jesus has gone to prepare a place for his people.

Lot and his daughters were removed to safety from Sodom before the LORD rained brimstone and fire on the cities. Sadly his wife looked back.

Our word "rapture" is derived from the Latin "rapiemur", used in the Vulgate translation of 1 Thessalonians 4:17 for "caught up" or "snatched away".

Enoch is our prototype for rapture in Genesis 5:24 and Hebrews 11:5 (translated that he should not see death...).

Another precedent: 2 Kings Chapter 2 tells us of Elijah being taken to heaven by a whirlwind in a chariot of fire.

Song of Solomon Chapter 2 relates a king calling his bride to come away with him from her hidden place, much as we can imagine Christ calling his Church out of this world.

!st Corinthians 15:51-52 declares the mystery that some will not sleep (bodily death), then promises all of us will be changed into the incorruptible and immortal.

Truly no man knows the day or hour, but the book of Revelation does not mention the Church on earth beyond the third chapter. In Revelation 7:9 an innumerable multitude of the saved out of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues stand before the throne praising God. After this the wrath of God falls upon the inhabitants of the earth, which wrath the Church is not appointed to (1-Thessalonians 5:9).

In verse 10 highlights the great amount of love that Jehovah God and Jesus have for us. We know we can't earn nor do we deserve salvation but it is only because of Jehovah's underserved kindness that we can share in the loud shout of praise mentioned in this verse. So it is important for us to express deep appreciation for Jehovah God and Jesus and to help others to do the same.

James 1:19-20, James 3:18

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Our country is being attacked from inside by numerous different groups. We need God more than ever. All that our fore fathers fought and died for us being corrupted. I am requesting as many prayers for peace to be returned to America as well as many of the American people to turn back to God as possible! Pray for our people and country. GOD BLESS AMERICA! Thank you!

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From 2005 to 2016, the veteran suicide rate rose by an alarming 26 percent. In the past, these heroes were too often overlooked by our leaders, who sent our troops to fight in foreign lands without taking care of them once they returned home.



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More than 6,000 veterans die by suicide each year, taking their own lives at a rate one-and-a-half times that of other Americans. Female veterans are at an even higher risk, with a suicide rate of more than twice that of other Americans.



From 2005 to 2016, the veteran suicide rate rose by an alarming 26 percent. In the past, these heroes were too often overlooked by our leaders, who sent our troops to fight in foreign lands without taking care of them once they returned home.



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Prayer for repentance and protection for my family

Renee,

If you are studying and following God's Word don't be surprised when the devil fights. 1 Peter 4:12 says "Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you."

If you're children are grown you cannot change them but you can pray for them and try to counsel them using Scripture. If they're still in the home get in the Word together and deal with the issues that you are facing. Finally, I would ask you a question that I ask myself daily. What are you focused on? If you're focused on worldly things (a husband, money, career, etc) that God doesn't want you focused on it will make things hard. If you focus on him then you'll be able to rejoice no matter what.

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Pray for God's guidance for America's leaders starting with president Trump on down to the lowest position. Thank you

Pray for a friend of mine Eric who is deployed to another country and is very worried about his financial situation that everything will work out and he will be able to come back to the U.S.

The world will not be right until all come back into the order set for all creation by the father of all creation the sooner you wake up and get real to that and show your children that the better off you will be stop looking for a fake magic to save you there will be no salvation for any of creation until all creation comes back to the order set for all creation by the father of all creation! The house is going to fall unless the people rise and come back to the order! That is the whole of the prophecy! Repentance is to come back to the order set for all creation by the father of all creation that you all deny for the system's of the ruler's of this world! Time to wake up to reality so you can fix your family!

First,giving God all of the praise and honor I do believe the word of God and standing on it I sometime don't understand what"s going on in my life. Its like as soon as I go through one trail after, another I am doing all that I know to do. I do so go before the lord. I ask him what ever area in my life that's not pleasing to him to please show me.I am standing on his word for my home, my children's. My baby is a little mixed up about her identity. My oldest have no respect, neither do her children's for me.I would love for God to bless me with a godly mate,and yes I have ask.Spirit Fill and love the lord. Financially bless as well, a stable man of god. A praying man believe in the holy ghost and laying on hands.