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Alex, you are graced with understanding that not everyone yet has been given eyes to see and ears to hear.

Ezekiel 5:1-4 And thou, son of man (Jesus), take thee a barber's razor, and CAUSE (all is of God) it to pass upon thine head and upon thy beard: then take thee three balances to weigh, and divide the hair,

(2) Thou shall burn with fire (for our God is a consuming fire) a THIRD part in the midst or the city (spiritual Jerusalem), when the days of the siege are fulfilled (they were fulfilled at pentecost): and thou shall take a third part, and smite them with a knife: and a third part thou shall scatter to the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.

(3) Thou shall also take thereof a FEW (find the way) in number, and bind them ( the FEW) in thy skirts.

(4) then take of them (the FEW) again, and cast them into the mist of the (lake of) fire, and burn them (the FEW) in the fire (our God is a consuming fire); for thereof (the FEW) shall a fire come into the house of Israel.

Obadiah 21 And saviours (judges) shall come upon mount Zion to judge the mount Esau; and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.

Zachariah 13:9 And I (the Holy Ghost) will bring the THIRD part through the (lake of ) fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they will say, The Lord is my God.

Revelation 9:18 By these three was the THIRD part of men killed, by the fire, and by smoke, and by brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. this the FIRST RESURRECTION.

GBU

Abaddon will make the evil ones pay the price. Abaddon is Gods wrath manifested into a being that will destroy the impure when all the good souls have departed.

who are the 4 and 20 elders found in revelation 11?

A flying roll is mentioned in Zechariah 5:1-2.

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This is not in reference to Rev 9 v7 but Luke 1

Luke 1 v 30 ,31,32,33,34,35

These verses clarify who Jesus is . And when he began as the Christ .

God manifested in the flesh .

Let's not spiritualize Jesus into something else , but except the biblical record shown in Luke ch 1 and other places in the Bible that give this record .

1 John 4 v 1,2,3...

The sin of Eve did not cause a problem.

It was only a problem when Adam sinned.

Rich, could you clarify? I believe that the sin nature did find its root when Eve (& Adam) sinned against God through disobedience. And through them, sin was passed onto all of us ( Romans 5:12): "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned".

Why did sin not enter the world when Eve sinned?

Coronavirus 19-or some subsequent mutation thereof?

Sheila, the passage about the Seventh Seal ( Rev 8:1) involves the Seven Angels with the Seven Trumpets sounding. As you know, all this is a description of the time when God's Wrath (the Great Tribulation) is to come upon the unbelieving world. In Rev 9:1, it's the turn of the Fifth Angel of the Seven, to sound his trumpet & a part of this outpouring of God's Anger, unbelievers are to physically suffer a most horrible agony as when a scorpion strikes a man (v5).

So to have all this happen, the key to the bottomless pit is used to release these demons that are directed to give extreme pain & suffering to those who are not sealed by God. I don't believe that a demon is given the key to open the pit & release the demons, but an angel from God. And Abaddon/Apollyon is the 'king' angel from the Pit (i.e. a satanic angel) who may be instrumental in leading out the legions of demons to accomplish their devastating task on the Earth. So he & they are evil, but God can & does use evil spirits, people, & kingdoms to accomplish His Purposes.

Yet, it's noteworthy that those with the 'seal of God on their foreheads' are to be spared (v4). Christians are not here at this time, as they have been removed to Heaven long before; and Christians are sealed, not on their foreheads, but in their spirits by the Holy Spirit: "ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory." So who are these left on the Earth that have God's Seal on their foreheads? They could be the Elect from Israel who never turned to Christ for their salvation but yet are to be saved through recognizing their Saviour when He returns again & figure in the Millennium reign of Christ on the Earth.

Im confused, is Abaddon, Gods angel or demonic? Why would Jesus give up his keys to hell to a demon? If he is the destroying angel used by God to cause harm to evil people, doesnt that make him good?

And the Jesus and the letter "J" is only 400 years old. As the saying is true Satan deceiveth the whole world.

Revelation 9:20

And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

Malachi 3:16

Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name.

Jeremiah 16:19 King James Version (KJV)

19 O Lord, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

Hello, there's nothing in the Bible saying to not use a musical instrument, but it does say the opposite. David played the harp: 1 Samuel 16:23

Psalm 150:3-4 - Says to worship with trumpet, harp, psalms, timbrell, stringed instruments, organ.

Instruments will be in heaven too- harps. Rev 15:2-3

It says worship in spirit and truth: John 4:23.

Playing an instrument is like serving and sometimes is hard to focus on worshipping God. But the same thing can happen if you're the leader singing, or if you're in audience reading notes or spacing out. So, I think there's a case for each where we need to make sure its done in spirit and truth and done to glorify God, not ourselves or some other purpose. God bless...

I have a question concerning musical instruments in our worship today.. I have read and study one view on this and it is something that I have never studied before and had never even heard in all of my church going years. There are those who believe that instrumental music is not authorized for the New Testament worship of God today. I have read all the scriptures supporting this but it has come from one source. What is your commentary on this subject and do you have scripture to validate your stand? I have read the new Testament and have not found the use of musical instruments mention when the disciples gathered to worship. How did it come to be acceptable in our worship services if it was not authorized by God for his worship to him according to the gospel of Jesus? I would just like to hear another view on this subject but know that we are worship God in spirit and in truth. We are to do the will of God, and not what is pleasing to us. When we gather together for worship we are to worship according to His purpose and by his authority, according to the New Testament. The Israelites were commanded to worship with music in the Old Testament, but no mention of instruments were mentioned in the new Testament.

And you are right there is no little sin or big sin. The bible say in Romans 6 : 23. "That the wages of sin is death and the gift of God is eternal life". So how ever you wage it if you sin it is sin their is no sugar coating it, or to say it is a white lie it is still sin and sin can lead to death...

And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

We think the corona virus is bad ,wait till revelation 9 starts as God word says incurable diseases long suffering and no death,for those who does not have the seal of GOD

Revelation 16:12

The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.

Revelation 9:16-18

The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur, and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

Matthew 24:14

And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Isaiah 49:12

Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of Syene."

China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet.

Google Past Pandemic LIST

It will have World death totals by country.

I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't act like past flu's.

I didn't know there were any scriptures of China in the Bible. I looked it up as a lark.

It would be helpful if Bible scholars in here would look up the ancient names of those scriptures mention of places in China. What are their names now?

Revelation 16:12

The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.

Revelation 9:16-18

The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur, and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

Matthew 24:14

And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Isaiah 49:12

Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of Syene."

China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet.

Google Past Pandemic LIST

(That has World death totals)

I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't act like past flu's.

I didn't know there were any scriptures of China in the Bible. I looked it up as a lark.

I'm taking it more seriously now. Here you may have to pay a 250.00 ticket if you get ratted out for not wearing a mask. :(

That was before I searched for China.

I have to honor scripture that seems to bear this out. Your thoughts?

Revelation 16:12

The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.

Revelation 9:16-18

The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur, and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

Matthew 24:14

And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Isaiah 49:12

Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of Syene."

China gave us SARS virus, Corona virus... what was the one before SARS? I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet.

2 Timothy 3 Last days people described

2 Peter 3. It's all going to be burned

Isaiah 51:6 Heavens shall vanish like smoke

People this is the 3rd down in the 4th quarter. If you love your life...your wife, kids, relatives, friends....GET SAVED NOW!!

John 3

It's going to happen faster than 1 eye blink.

After that, it's over. No more time.

You are eventually Going to meet Antichrist or his evil government agents. First all Nicey nice. Has good answers. Then His real face shows through. It looks like Death.

I get so tired of preaching to people hard of hearing. COPY those scriptures down on the inside cover of your Bible. I hope you have one?

B COLE,

Revelation 9:1 tells us that when the fifth angel sounded, a star fell. In Revelation Chapter 1, we know that the stars represent angels. So a star fell from heaven. Secondly, the word fall is in the Perfect Tense. So he sees a star which has already fallen. He didn't see it as it was falling. He saw a fallen star, a star that had already fallen from out of heaven unto the earth.

And to this angel, this fallen star, was given the key to the bottomless pit. Notice that it was given to him. He did not possess it. He did not have authority over it. We know from Revelation Chapter 1 that Jesus has the keys of Hades and of death. The Lord holds all the keys to all of these places.

Now the bottomless pit is the word abyss, ABUSSO in Greek. And it is interesting because it is believed that around where Babylon used to be, and in fact, it was the place where Saddam Hussein was caught, but they believed that there is a shaft that goes down into the heart of the earth. And this shaft is closed up on the top.

And this would be the place that Peter told us about in 2 Peter Chapter 2:4, that there are angels who are reserved in chains of darkness, ready to be revealed.

And so this star who had fallen was given the key to the bottomless pit. This star is none other than Satan himself, and the creatures that will be released from this pit are going to be two-hundred million demons unleashed upon the earth.

But concerning this star who had been fallen, back in Isaiah 14:12-15, we have recorded for us the rebellion of Satan. It is called the "five I wills," where Satan said I will be like the most high, where he expressed his rebellion towards God.

And it is at that time that he lost his first domain. He lost his first position with God.

Who was given the key to the bottomless pit

Well,having read everything that takes me back in 2014 when I had a revelation and I asked myself for years what it really met and why would God show me something so poeerf like that,me,a tiny young woman of 25years by that time

I found myself in an endless garden ,it had fruits ripened and attractive, it had homosexuals, it had bars,clubs swiiming pools every luxurious place was in that beautiful garden ,people happy dancing, others smoking ,drinking having sex in broad day light,i admired to go that side and enjoy too.

As I made a step,I heard voices I looked up,i saw 3 angels only faces were human the rest was covered in white garments in a white cloud one was Michael the leader ,but he was very angry the voice told commanders them, Go down in the garden, wipe away anything that is contaminated, any one that has eaten of that fruit of poison not even a small grass will u leave as long as it's contaminated.

I saw them destroying that side I desired to go to,nothin was left except there's was a fruit dome near me and I wanted to bend pick it eat it,but one angel said to Michael, Look back,someone is getting contaminated, Go destroy her,I never picked it,he flew back up,I woke up.

For long time,it disturbed me,it's here in 2020,I see that revelation happening and it's powerful.lets pray and turn away from evil go.the days are dark and we need to be pure when that angel of death comes to take

Repent: The meaning for those with eyes to see and ears to hear:

Acts 3:19 REPENT Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your SINS sins may be blotted out, (change your mind on SIN)

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, REPENT Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of SINS sins,

Acts 8:22 REPENT Repent therefore of this thy WICKEDNESS wickedness,

2 Corinthians 12:21 And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not REPENT repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed. ( repent uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness )

Revelation 2:21 And I gave her space to REPENT repent of her FORNICATION fornication; and she repented not.

(IS FORNICATION A SIN OR A CHANGE OF MIND?)

Revelation 2:22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit ADULTERY adultery with her into great tribulation, except they REPENT repent of their DEEDS deeds.

Revelation 9:21 Neither REPENTED repented they of their MURDERS murders, nor of their SORCERIES sorceries, nor of their FORNICATION fornication, nor of their THEFTS thefts.

Continuation...

In the 7th Seal, the Trumpets are introduced. This Seal signifies the last days of the Great Tribulation of Matthew 24. The Trumpets sound at the very last hour of the Tribulation. Then the Bowls of the Wrath of God are found in the last Trumpet. It is that last hour that is referred to as The Day of The Lord or Day of His Wrath. See 14:7.

In any case, Genesis 37:9 is a reference to people, more specifically, Joseph's brothers. Now, although the reference in Judges 5:20 appears to be to Angels, it is more specifically a reference to earthly Kings at war.

In Revelation 22:16, Jesus refers to Himself as The Bright and Morning Star.

Joel 2:10 seems to be speaking of more than just stars. It is speaks of the powerful and influential, whose luster, whose brightness, whose power, appeal and influence are diminished by the army of God. But who is that army? It is an army of people.

Again, who is the star in Revelation 9:1?

I hope this answers your question. But keep in mind that in everyday speak and historically, we sometimes refer to prominent people as stars, too.

Thanks for asking. It would be good to hear your opinion on this also.

Carlos Ramirez Trevio

A study of the metaphorical reference to stars in the Bible, shows that stars are iften a reference to people, not just physical heavenly bodies, such as stars, meteors, planets.

See examples in:

Revelation 1:20

Jude 1:13

Nahum 3:16

Judges 5:20

Revelation 9:1

Thapelo, indeed Gen 1:26,27 says that we were made in the Image of God. That is, His only Creation that received a spirit, able to reason at a higher level, to articulate in words what is in his heart, having "set the World in their hearts" (Eccl 3:11) which means, we have the privilege of understanding so much of God's Creation so our worship might be returned to Him. No other living creature has these divine qualities, yet no other creature has done the evil that man has done to God's World.

So, you believe correctly, that God is a Triune God: Father, the Son & the Holy Spirit. Likewise, man was created in three parts: Body, Soul & Spirit. The Body signifies the outer structure/form; the Soul is the life given to the Body ("& man became a living soul" ( Gen 2:7); the Spirit is by which we are able to function above animals, whether in our minds, in morality, discernment, speaking to our Creator or allowing Him to speak to us, etc. Animals don't have a spirit; when we die, "our spirits shall return to the Lord Who gave it" (Eccl 12:7); of course, many of those departed ones will not enter Heaven because of their treatment of God's Son & His Sacrifice for their sins. We hope that your heart & life has been wonderfully changed by God's Spirit & you daily enjoy the Triune God working in your life & giving you His Grace.

It is said that man was created in the likeness of God. I believe God is a tribune God. Man is created in Flesh and Spirit/Soul. Which is the third part?

The greater the crime against Gods elect the greater the force that caused it,these forces are called antichrist,they Opposed Jesus and God,through there own freewill of choice and actions,started a war in heaven and were banned.
Sent to earth because they could not go back,invisible to us, they use humans against humans.In History the worst event is a direct parallel,to the ones powering it.(and the good)
Hitler and his crew were standouts.previous chapter says the 'power was in his mouth',power to persuade and influence with Words,speeches,the text also mentions,a bad feather in the wing of the eagle' and more. Thankfully, bottom line..
Those that stand with God and Jesus will be fine.