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  • THE ENDS OF THE EARTH - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I hope this is what you were looking for. I know people say things like, "I'll love you to the ends of the earth."

    I'm not sure it's the same as scriptures. This is just a little slice of a larger pool of scripture. You might enjoy learning how to use the SEARCH ENGINE out on the red page where you come into this website.

    Even just remembering a part of a scripture, it will do its best to find everything with that hint.

    Acts 13:47

    For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ENDS OF THE EARTH.

    Romans 10:18

    But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world.

    1 Corinthians 10:11

    Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

    2 Peter 3:7

    But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

    Revelation 1:7

    Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

    Revelation 5:3

    And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.

    Mark 16:15

    And he said unto them, Go ye into ALL of the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

    Mishael
  • S Spencer. - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Part 9.

    The faith of Christ.

    Galatians 2:15-16.

    We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

    Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by "THE FAITH "OF" CHRIST", even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

    Who's faith? CHRIST FAITH! We were lacking faith it had to be given to us! Ephesians 2:8-9.

    Some have objected to this interpretation, saying that faith (pistis) is feminine, while that (touto) is neuter. That poses no problem, however, as long as it is understood that that does not refer precisely to the noun faith but to the act of believing. Further, this interpretation makes the best sense of the text, since if that refers to by grace you have been saved through faith (that is, to the whole statement), the adding of and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God would be redundant, because grace is defined as an unearned act of God. If salvation is of grace, it has to be an undeserved gift of God. Faith is presented as a gift from God in 2 Peter 1:1, Philippians 1:29, and Acts 3:16.

    Boy is that humbling! We can't produce faith, there is nothing to boast on that either!

    That is why some say you can lose your salvation, and no one is saved until the Judgement.

    THEY'RE NOT SURE. "VOID OF CHRIST FAITH"

    Just believing is his name don't cut it either.

    John 2;23-24. "Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many "BELIEVED IN HIS NAME", when they saw the miracles which he did. But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men,

    You have to believe in his work, through the Holyspirit. (FAITH OF CHRIST)

    Romans 10:9. That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and SHALT BELIEVE IN THY HEART THAT GOD RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD, thou shalt be saved.

    1 Corinthians 1:18.

    See part 9.

    James 2:14-26.

    God bless.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Page 2.

    Then to 1 Peter 3:21. Again, we see Peter use the phrase 'good conscience', as he did in verse 16. As a 'good conscience' is important to the believer in his confident stand against the forces of evil against him, so also is a 'good conscience' that water baptism provides in his spiritual stand before God & the world. God already knows who belongs to Him (those expressing repentance & faith) - water baptism is immaterial. Water baptism is solely for the benefit of the new convert, for 'conscience-sake'. And obedience? That is the responsibility of the one leading the sinner to Christ ( Romans 10:13-15), to obey the command to follow through with baptizing the convert - not for the baptizee to initiate or obey.

    So, I trust that you can see that my understanding on water baptism is simply an event post-saving faith & not contributing to it - an act of identification & clear conscience only. If not, then not only an outward action is needed to secure salvation, there are also many false Christians out there who are yet to be baptized, or physically unable to go into the waters, on their death bed, or neglected by the Church. And we can't make excuses for these poor souls, since 'baptism is (as you believe) necessary for salvation'.
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Paul and Silas's jailer asked them in ACTS 16:30 ..."Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" Their answer was as simple as this in ACTS 16:31 ..."Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved..." Simple as that.



    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13
  • E. - In Reply - 2 years ago
    "if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9

    ".....everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Acts 2:21

    Father please have mercy on them, us and all in need. Thank you and praise you. In your holy name I pray Lord Jesus. Amen.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Albert.

    Neither Cain, Abel, or Seth was perfect, this is why there was a need for a blood sacrifice. When we look at the book of Hebrews we find out that they were instructed to bring a sacrifice in that manner. Hebrews-11-4. "Faith comes by hearing" Romans 10:17.

    So Abel's sacrifice was offered by faith because he had faith in what was preached to him and he showed that by his offering.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer. on Romans 8:1-11. - 2 years ago
    Part 1

    Here is a very important truth that is not discussed often and one that can tie a lot of loose ends.

    What does works of the flesh and the works of law have in common? And how does it contrast Fruit of the Spirit. And what does baptism "Not water baptism" has to do with it?

    When talking about salvation we like to consider verses like John 3:16. Romans 10:9. and others. But what does born from above spoken by Jesus in John 3:7 means and how should the new birth effect the believer in a way the old nature could not?

    Here's just a few reference verses.

    Galatians 2:16. Galatians 5:19-21.

    Galatians 5:22-24. John 15:1-6.

    John 3:7.

    There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

    That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

    For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

    Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

    So, then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

    But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

    And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

    But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Romans 8:1-11.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Kenneth,

    Jesus did not say it in those exact words, but it is true that a person must repent and ask for forgiveness in order to be saved. Romans 10:13 says, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." That's a promise! If a person with a repentant heart genuinely calls out to Him and cries out to Him for mercy and to save them, He will do it. Jesus said in John 3:3 that "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." The word "again" in the Greek text is literally the word above. It is not PALIN, which is the word for again. It is the word ANOTHEN, which means "from above." What Jesus is saying is that if a person is not born from above (A Spiritual birth), he is not able to see the Kingdom of God.

    Paul says in 2 Corinthians 5:17 that you become a new creation when God's Spirit comes into your spirit. You become a new person. So a person must be born of God's Spirit in order to enter into heaven. In fact, Romans 8:9 tells us that if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His. The connection here is that a person must belong to Christ in order to enter into heaven, and the evidence that a person belongs to Christ is that they have His Spirit living in them. A person belongs to Christ if they have His Spirit literally dwelling in them (Permanently). I enter into heaven not because of who I am, or what I've done. I enter in because one day when I stand before God, He will see His Son in me.

    God Bless!!!
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Acts 2:38 states to repent and be baptized for the remission of sins; and then you will be filled with the Holy Ghost. On the surface it may seem that not only is baptism required; but also it along with repentance is needed for forgiveness. Clearly; this is not the case as is seen from John the Baptist himself who told the Pharisees to repent BEFORE the baptism was given. At that time the Spirit did not dwell with us permanently after salvation after it did after Pentacost and the upper room experience.

    This could be compared in a way to confessing with our mouth that Jesus Christ is Lord to be saved. ( Romans 10:9-10). Believing in the heart is a necessary condition; lest we simply have a mantra that is some intellectual acceptance of Christ as Lord; who He actually is to every person; whether or not they have been given a new heart post conversion or are still unregenerate.

    The clear example is the thief at the cross. ( Luke 23:39-43). He didn't have time to be baptized; but clearly Christ was going to be with him in paradise. Therefore; baptism is as an outer confession; it demonstrates our public affirmation of becoming part of the Body and Christ and symbolizes in some ways the death; burial and resurrection in our own lives mirroring that of Christ; our head. It is clearly a command; hence it should be done ASAP after conversion. One could say that if a person does NOT seek to be baptized and goes on a long time without it it is likely there is no evidence that they have truly repented. If we love Him; we obey His commands. ( John 14:15). Obviously we should test ourselves to see if we are in the faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5-6); or as a Pastor see if there are any fruits indicating true repentance ( Matthew 3:8; etal). Matthew 5:19 shows if we break the least of the commandments and teach others to do so we shall be least in the Kingdom of Heaven. That should be a sobering warning of losing rewards for disobedience for elders and laypersons alike
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Texsis. I couldn't place "bold" in that reference you gave (which doesn't exist of course), but the word does appear in Romans 10:20. Then in the 1611 Edition of the KJB, we can find "bolde" in a couple of verses ( Proverbs 28:1 & Philemon 1:8). In all these instances, the meaning remains unchanged, regardless of whether modern or olde English is read.
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Godwin: If you have been born again ( Romans 10:9-13), God is there with you whether you feel His presence or not. Matthew 28:20 "...lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

    Our walk in Christ is by faith, not by sight or by feelings or sight. 2 Corinthians 5:7

    "(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)"

    God Bless you!

    Romans 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."
  • Chris - In Reply on John 14 - 2 years ago
    Here a few Margaret (you can hover over each one to read the text).

    Matthew 9:38; John 17:20,21; Acts 26:18; Romans 10:1; 1 Timothy 2:1-4.
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Pius Joseph JD, The only thing that will send you to hell is rejecting Jesus Christ as Savior. In remorse for your sins and willing to repent of them, ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins, and He will give you a new heart.

    This is what the Bible says about being born again.

    "As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



    "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

    "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



    "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

    God bless you!
  • Ronnette on Romans 10 - 2 years ago
    Colossians 2:2

    That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

    Colossians 2:3

    In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

    May we all grow in grace and charity.

    Romans 15:13

    Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.

    All God's people said AMEN.
  • Chris - In Reply on Isaiah 58 - 2 years ago
    Page 2.

    Romans 10:2-5: "For I bear them record that they (Israel) have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them."

    Again, "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth". To all who put their trust in Jesus, Christ's coming ended the Law that should have brought righteousness but failed. Nothing wrong with the Law - the problem was with man. The Law failed to achieve it - but faith in Christ & a new birth did, ending the demands of the Law that only brought death.

    And there can't be any syncretism, coming under both the Law & under God's Grace. We cannot be justified by the Law - even keeping or trying to keep one Law & still claim Grace. Galatians 5:4; Romans 4:13,14. And the keeping of the Sabbath is just one of the ten Laws. Whoever wants to keep the Law is bound to keep them perfectly (all ten of them) James 2:10 - and there remains no avenue to claim Grace when under the Law.

    May we walk in the Spirit, obeying the Spirit, that the righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us ( Romans 8:4) and not bound to the letter ( Romans 7:6; 2 Corinthians 3:6). The Sabbath Rest is not found in a day set aside for physical rest, but in a Person Whom we have sanctified in our hearts & lives. Blessings.
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Alex

    My thoughts about this.

    Firstly just to mention that the original text uses the word attract instead of draw. Attract is a more powerful word than draw. How does God attract people to Jesus? The answer is by showing Jesus' love to people. How does God show Jesus' love to people? By His only Son's sacrifice for the salvation of people. Does God's love attracts all people to Jesus? The answer is no. Most of people do not want to know anything about Jesus and the salvation He offers. ( Matthew 7:13-14, John 5:40). And here is where the free will of people comes in. God will not force anybody to accept His offer. You either accept it or you don't. Now how do people get to know about God's love? Is God actually going to tell them Himself or use an angel for that? No, this task is for us to do it. See what Paul says in Romans 10:14-15

    " How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

    And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!" So it is our responsibility to bring the Good News to all people. We are the tools that God wants to use for this task. So let us make ourselves ready for this ministry. GBU
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Romans 8 - 2 years ago
    Part 7.

    Why does a God of love allow evil? Because He is a God of LOVE.

    So Great a Salvation

    So, how practical is Christianity? The Bible presents an infinite Creator with the very attributes we would expect when we examine the things that are made. And God, as a personal Being, in order that He might have a love relationship with us, gave us the capacity of choice. In order that we might have a practical revelation of His love, His wisdom, His power, His glory, He became one of us in the person of the Messiah, Jesus Christ.

    In order that we might not suffer the penalty of our evil choices (sin), He, like a loving father, paid the penalty for our sins. He allowed his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to be murdered on a Roman cross (arguably the most evil act in the history of the universe, if He is indeed God's Son). But this act of great evil gave rise to an even better state of affairs, and the greatest act of love in the universe: paying the penalty for the wrong choices we make, which were the result of the way He created us in the first place! In the cross of Christ He has provided a full pardon from the consequences of the evil in our lives. Consequently, we cannot look to God and declare that He is unfair. Far from being a devil, in this examination of the problem of evil, God becomes the hero of the plot and the solution to the problem of evil. And it all hinges on LOVE. Indeed, God is love.3 What must we do to receive this pardon?

    For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

    If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9.

    God bless.
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Mike, Born again believers walk by faith, not by sight or feelings. There have been times when I didn't feel His presence, but by faith I knew He was with me because He promised never to leave us. You must have faith. I can't stress that strong enough.

    2 Corinthians 5:7 - (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

    Trust him, believe His promises, lean on Him no matter the situation or your feelings, or your own understanding.

    Proverbs 3:5-6 - Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

    If you are not born again, read the following.

    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello, you will likely get different opinions on this, so my recommendation is to just read the Bible with an open heart and open mind and pray for wisdom and understanding before, during and after. There's a link on this site that says Become a Christian which has a lot of verses you can read and then read the entire chapters and books for broader context.

    My interpretation of the scriptures is that if we decide to legitimately turn from our old evil ways and follow Jesus while intentionally trying to follow Him and avoid sin, then that process is being born again. John 3:3 It is the process of becoming new in Christ. I believe this is a huge commitment and a serious change in someone's direction in life. I think people who dismiss this as unimportant are at risk of not legitimately being born again. I think most Christians dismiss following Jesus as just a box to check so they can then go back to enjoing a life of sin (and inadvertantly following satan). Most people do this and most will go to hell. That is a fact that Jesus warned us of over and over. And much of the gospel are warnings to both nonbelievers and believers- especially Christians not taking Jesus seriously. Matthew 10:28.

    I personally don't believe anyone is "saved" until we are judged, and I don't believe judgment day happens until Jesus returns. And I believe it will all happen on the same day, because it says 'day of judgment' over and over. Not days, or weeks, or years of judgment. This contradicts what a lot of people want to believe that they go instantly to heaven upon death.

    So, my belief differs from popular Christian interpretations which says people are already "saved" if they respond to an altar call, or touch the TV and pray while at home, or invite Jesus "into your heart". These words aren't exactly found in the Bible from what I have discovered.

    When I read about salvation it appears to be future tense- after judgment. Romans 10:9, 1 Peter 1:5. 1 Corinthians 9:24. God bless.
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Joy, if you have been born again, He is your Father and your Friend.

    How to be born again.

    "As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



    "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

    "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



    "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13
  • Ronnette - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Isaiah 44:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Behold, all his fellows shall be ashamed: and the workmen, they are of men: let them all be gathered together, let them stand up; yet they shall fear, and they shall be ashamed together.

    Jeremiah 6:15 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.

    Psalms 119:80 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Let my heart be sound in thy statutes; that I be not ashamed.

    Romans 10:11 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

    Psalms 25:20 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    O keep my soul, and deliver me: let me not be ashamed; for I put my trust in thee.

    Psalms 119:6 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.

    Job 19:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    These ten times have ye reproached me: ye are not ashamed that ye make yourselves strange to me.

    Psalms 119:116 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Uphold me according unto thy word, that I may live: and let me not be ashamed of my hope.

    Proverbs 12:4 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    A virtuous woman is a crown to her husband: but she that maketh ashamed is as rottenness in his bones.

    Psalms 31:1 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    (To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.) In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust; let me never be ashamed: deliver me in thy righteousness.

    2 Timothy 2:15 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
  • Mark Valesano - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 5:11 - 2 years ago
    Good morning, Alex N. I think I become more amazed every day at the willingness of people of the faith (Christians) to ignore Scripture. Church discipline, judging, or any other topic that poses a 'problem' or uneasiness for us should be avoided at all costs tends to be the rule of thumb. What is Peter writing about in 1 Peter 4? Judgment must begin in the house of God. What do you think that means? Read the verses preceding it. God's house should always be a house of order. I'm not declaring it's perfect, of course not, for it's full of those of us doing our best to follow Him every day. Again, it's about those who declare a lifestyle of sin and still want the security of God's forgiveness and Heaven at the same time. God doesn't play that and never will. Jesus can't be your or anyone's Savior unless He's your Lord ( Romans 10:13). Don't forget the man Jesus healed at the pool of Bethesda in John 5, read the admonition Jesus gave him in v. 14. God makes us responsible for the gift of His salvation or healing. That's what repentance is all about.

    As for the woman 'caught' in adultery, somehow they forgot to bring the man forth that she was with. I think when Jesus stooped down to write on the ground, Deuteronomy 22:22-24 may have been what He was writing. Sad how people always try to catch God on a technicality to serve their purpose or beliefs.

    The Bible declares that we should study to show ourselves approved unto God, a worker that needs not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth ( 2 Tim. 2:15). Trust me when I say that I make myself transparent with the Bible class I oversee. I point more fingers at myself than anyone, because I know that no good thing dwells in me save for Christ and His Spirit. The other part of my responsibility is to point to those who want to compromise their walk with God of the dangers that they are subjecting themselves to. I encourage you to reread 1 Cor. 5 and 6, Gal. 6:1-10, and 2 Tim. 3 (especially v. 5).
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Gigi.

    I haven't read much of there material, Hardly any of Alex material, once I see my name then I just read maybe the first line and that's it. I'm very familiar with him and I'm sure it's just a repeat of something I've already heard from him.

    But I will read and perhaps engage if he or Earl gave an answer to what I've asked several times.

    "If a every sinner goes to heaven whether they believe or not why is it that they work so hard to pitch their point of view. Why is it so important to them that there message is accepted when salvation is never at stake?

    We believe what we preach is vital to salvation and ones salvation is at stake pending on ones belief.

    Romans 10:13-14. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    How then shall they call on him in whom they have not BELIEVED? and how shall they BELIEVE in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? THEREFORE WE PREACH.

    Secondly concerning this business of fire. Have either used this passage of scriptures? If not I wonder why.

    1 Corinthians 3:11-15. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

    Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

    If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

    If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

    Perhaps because it's already symbolic and very well explained! It won't serve them well in their agenda. This speaks of conditions and works being tried to a already saved person. And it's clear to them as well. In other words it's hard to compromise these well explained verses to benefit them in their theology.

    So their is no Integrity in their reasoning.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    There's Judgment for sinners and There's chastening for believers.

    Ether way I don't wish this on no one!

    Hebrews 10:26-31.

    That's one reason why we preach the cross Continuously! There's blessings and on the other hand There's consequences therefore we preach repentance.

    If there's no damnable consequences why preach?

    We've been given an urge to preach God's grace. OUR MESSAGE HAS VIRTUE! IT IS SALVATION!!

    It has eternal security for the believer! and it has the ONLY escape from Hell. It brings those out of darkness.

    If there is another Gospel out there that don't have repentance, Holiness, no wrath of God and no hell. THEN IT CAN'T HAVE SALVATION. " What are you saved from? And if all go to heaven no matter what. Why do you preach and stand in the way of THE Gospel that we preach? It shouldn't bother you unless we have opposing spirits.

    Here's what that heresy looks like .

    They treat wrath as if it's reward. This is a errored teaching against the effects of the cross.

    It speaks in this manner, "Forget the cross, We needs God's wrath!

    Forget Holllyness, do evil so we can be thrown in the lake of fire and be purified.

    It says Jesus died in vain!

    It says God Love on display when Christ died on the cross was pointless.

    They look at John 3:16. and

    John 15:13, They don't say thank you Lord, They say it was unnecessary.

    There's no preaching forgiveness for sins to those who trust In Christ, It says hell and the punishment reserved for Satan and his Angels is what you need.

    Here's a direct quote from one just a few days ago "

    .....Every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire....thank you Jesus that is what we ALL NEED....His baptism of the HG and Fire.

    That's their Goodnews/Gospel.

    They say this is from God but they can't take that to their local Church. But they come on the site to attack the truth.

    Romans 10:15.

    Mark 16:15.

    God bless."
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    There's Judgment for sinners and There's chastening for believers.

    Ether way I don't wish this on no one!

    Hebrews 10:26-31.

    That's one reason why we preach the cross Continuously! There's blessings and on the other hand There's consequences therefore we preach repentance.

    If there's no damnable consequences why preach?

    We've been given an urge to preach God's grace. OUR MESSAGE HAS VIRTUE! IT IS SALVATION!!

    It has eternal security for the believer! and it has the ONLY escape from Hell. It brings those out of darkness.

    If there is another Gospel out there that don't have repentance, Holiness, no wrath of God and no hell. THEN IT CAN'T HAVE SALVATION. " What are you saved from? And if all go to heaven no matter what. Why do you preach and stand in the way of THE Gospel that we preach? It shouldn't bother you unless we have opposing spirits.

    Here's what that heresy looks like .

    They treat wrath as if it's reward. This is a errored teaching against the effects of the cross.

    It speaks in this manner, "Forget the cross, We needs God's wrath!

    Forget Holllyness, do evil so we can be thrown in the lake of fire and be purified.

    It says Jesus died in vain!

    It says God Love on display when Christ died on the cross was pointless.

    Thet look at John 3:16. and

    John 15:13, They don't say thank you Lord, They say it was unnecessary.

    There's no preaching forgiveness for sins to those who trust In Christ, It says hell and the punishment reserved for Satan and his Angels is what you need.

    Here's a direct quote from one just a few days ago "

    .....Every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire....thank you Jesus that is what we ALL NEED....His baptism of the HG and Fire.

    That's their Goodnews/Gospel.

    They say this is from God but they can't take that to their local Church. But they come on the site to attack the truth.

    Romans 10:15.

    Mark 16:15.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    There's Judgment for sinners and There's chastening for believers.

    Ether way I don't wish this on no one!

    Hebrews 10:26-31.

    That's one reason why we preach the cross Continuously! There's blessings and on the other hand There's consequences therefore we preach repentance.

    If there's no damnable consequences why preach?

    We've been given an urge to preach God's grace. OUR MESSAGE HAS VIRTUE! IT IS SALVATION!!

    It has eternal security for the believer! and it has the ONLY escape from Hell. It brings those out of darkness.

    If there is another Gospel out there that don't have repentance, Holiness, no wrath of God and no hell. THEN IT CAN'T HAVE SALVATION. " What are you saved from? And if all go to heaven no matter what. Why do you preach and stand in the way of THE Gospel that we preach? It shouldn't bother you unless we have opposing spirits.

    Here's what that heresy looks like .

    They treat wrath as if it's reward. This is a errored teaching against the effects of the cross.

    It speaks in this manner, "Forget the cross, We needs God's wrath!

    Forget Holllyness, do evil so we can be thrown in the lake of fire and be purified.

    It says Jesus died in vain!

    It says God Love on display when Christ died on the cross was pointless.

    Thet look at John 3:16. and

    John 15:13, They don't say thank you Lord, They say it was unnecessary.

    There's no preaching forgiveness for sins to those who trust In Christ, It says hell and the punishment reserved for Satan and his Angels is what you need.

    Here's a direct quote from one just a few days ago "

    .....Every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire....thank you Jesus that is what we ALL NEED....His baptism of the HG and

    Fire.

    That's their Goodnews/Gospel.

    They say this is from God but they can't take that to their local Church. But they come on the site to attack the truth.

    Romans 10:15.

    Mark 16:15.

    God bless.
  • D - 2 years ago
    Encouragement for any day...Salvation as it is in the Holy King James Bible:

    There are many uncertainties in this life, but your soul's salvation does NOT need to be one of them. You can KNOW beyond any shadow of a doubt that you are saved and on your way to heaven. "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may KNOW that ye have eternal life" ( 1st John 5:13). We all know that we have to die, but we don't know when.

    What must you do to be saved? You must repent and received the free gift of Grace of God by Faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. Read these verses below to help guide you along with path:

    John 14:6

    "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

    You can't place your faith in a pastor/preacher/teacher, you can't place it in a movement and you most certainly can't place it in a church ministry (although not all have fallen away). You can only find truth and life (Salvation) in Christ Jesus. Whereby we hear this verse:

    Acts 4:12 - Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

    You cannot earn Salvation or get it by works. Many others use legalism as a way to add works to the simple message of Salvation. But there's not a work you can do to get saved. Christ fulfilled everything on the Cross.

    Titus 3:5

    "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;"

    Ephesians Chapter 2

    "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

    So knowing this...how do we get saved, I'll leave God's Word to speak above mine own:

    Romans 10:9

    "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Victor,

    If you are saved, form the habit of daily devotions--praying and reading the Bible, including studying the Gospel of John which teaches Jesus's deity, and what the Apostles Peter and Paul wrote about growing strong in our walk with Christ Hebrews 5:11-6:12, 1 Cor. 3:1-4, 10-15, Eph 4:11-16, 1 Pet. 2:1-3, 2 Pet.1:3-10. When you sin, ask forgiveness and repent from ever doing it again. Jesus's blood is sufficient to cover all your sins. 1John 1:9 "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." Ask Him to search your heart, know your thoughts to see if there be any wickedness in you, and show you the way to walk. Psalms 139:23, 24 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Confess, repent, and your sins will be blotted out.

    If you are not born again, that is, not saved, here is the way to salvation:

    "As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



    "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

    "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



    "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13
  • Daniel Lindenbaum - 2 years ago
    I joined this page as I wished to read about the blessed King James Bible from a basic fundamental perspective. I don't use social media and avoid any "Christian" websites due to the diverse false doctrines. As many have written great words of inspiration and wisdom. I see an equal amount who contribute doctrines which cause discord and a feeling of loss for new believers (denial of pre-tribulation rapture, denial of Heaven after death, denial of permanent Salvation/eternal security, etc). I'd ask this to those here in all transparency and understanding: are we making this a safe place for the newly born again to learn about the Holy Bible with the simple sound doctrines which are taught? Or are we complicating the Word of God?

    2 Corinthians 11:1-6

    Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me. For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles. But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.

    If you're newly born again, the greatest truths you need to know in this Bible are:

    Galatians 2:21 - I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

    Romans 10:9 - That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    God bless you all.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Chris,

    Thanks for adding that! Later after I posted the answer. I remembered I didn't include the amazing gift of Salvation, that we ourselves could not accomplish with out Christ JESUS!

    Okou Agnatius,

    I answered the question as I would have, to someone who had already received the gift of Salvation through believing in Christ. Chris was right to add that! It does cover that issue some in: 1Peter 1, but in my spirit, I did feel afterward that I had not given you the best most complete answer & it bothered me as I was trying to rest.

    Please also see: John 3:15-16, Revelation 19:1, Acts 4:12, Romans 1:16, Romans 10:10, 1Thessalonians 5:8-24, Hebrews 2, Hebrews 5:9,

    John 14:6

    Forgive me, I ask


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