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"For by Grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God. Not of works lest any man should boast". So we know from these verses that our Salvation is by Grace not works. It also cannot be by both Grace and works because Grace and works are opposites. As the apostle Paul tells us again, "And if by Grace then is it no more of works otherwise Grace is no more Grace. But if it be of works then is it no more Grace otherwise work is no more work." ( Romans 11:6) So unless your willing to call the apostle Paul a liar we have to conclude that our Salvation is only by grace, not by works. Jesus doesn't decide our Salvation, we do. We decide whether we want to believe in Jesus and confess Him as our Lord and Savior. It's a conscious decision we each need to make: Confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God hath raised Him from the dead. You do not need baptism to be saved. That's all a part of the works trip religion.

Hi Debra: You had asked, What is the Church Jesus built called according to the Bible? The Answer- The Body of Christ. Read Chapt 3 again and vs 6. Most Christians have not been taught how too rightly divide the word of truth, Tim 2:15 I know i was one of them for 20 years i read the bible over and over again and found to many contrdictions and beliefs in my so called church, so decide to leave and search it out for myself and found a great discovery of the scripture of 2nd Tim 2:15. The question is where did God place his division? It all starts with Acts Chapter 9 Sauls Salvation and his Gospel of Grace. Who we know today as the Apsotle Paul. His letters are written for us today and his letters expalin what God is doing today, we are not in the old testament or in the gospels that is all for the Jews and his promise of the kingdom and we Gentiles were never part of the Jewish Covenant that God made to them, it was through there fall salvation is come unto us. Romans 11:11

Romans 11:25 and MUCH MORE!

Patrick may i suggest you go to Grace Bible Ambassadors on YouTube and they will send you a 29 page booklet, (Jesus wasn't talking to you!!). You will learn more than you think you know.

I did. You can follow along in teachings for every page. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:15

"Divorced Israel" you say? Romans 11:1" I say then, Hath God cast away HIS PEOPLE? GOD FORBID. For I also am an ISRAELITE, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.rn2 God hath NOT cast away HIS PEOPLE which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,rn3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.rn4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have RESERVED TO MYSELF seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.rn5 EVEN SO THEN AT THIS PRESENT TIME ALSO there is a remnant according to the election of grace."rnALWAYS ISRAEL!!

Romans 11:2 Context

1I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 3Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.KINDLY STUDY ROMANS 11; DANIEL 9.

Romans 11:24 Context
21For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. 24For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? 25For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery

1Corinthians2:9-16 But as it is written eye hath not seen nor ear heard neither have entered into the Heart of Man the things which God hath Prepared for them that Love Him but God hath Revealed them unto us by His Spirit for The Spirit searcheth all things yea the deep things of God for what Man knoweth the things of a Man save the spirit of Man which is in him even so the things of God knoweth no Man but The Spirit of God Now we have Received not the spirit of the World but The Spirit which is of God that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God which things also we Speak not in the words which Mans wisdom teacheth but which The Holy Ghost Teacheth comparing Spiritual...

Revelation 22:16.

Eric, you have a true understanding of scripture! Kudos to you! To God be the glory!

My goal is to bring everybody together over the freedom of religion, by coming together over unbelief. As Gods anointed, I say about Romans 11:32, where he says, "For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all" I say then we all can say yeah right! Abreviated, that's Y. R., which can be used in our english language, Y - Yeah, R ouR Right to see things differently! The letters can be formed using our arms up for Y, then down, hands cupped around left eye with the loop of the R. Right hand down first. Then high five the next person, or just high five the sky, all to the count of five. See Zephaniah 3:9 and Micah 2:6 7 about the spirit of the LORD. Ps46.

Hi Adam, Of course Christians sin and disobey, I was speaking of salvation--not sin or disobedience. Are you suggesting that the Holy Spirit is weaker in a Christian than Satan's power? Born again Christians are bought with a price and belong to Christ. Are WE capable of forcing him to disown us? The gift of salvation is irrevocable, as are all God's gifts. Romans 11:29 OSAS

I also forgot Gal.4:5 , Cor 10:12 there are many ways to be cut out there are more many more passages throughout the whole Bible,people have a mixed concept of truth

yes there are some that are wishy washy, some feel they are born again but John 3:5-9 , Matt: 7:22 and the Romans 1, I would say the whole chapter to be honest shows us the way to any other way is to err

As Matthew Henry pointed out, God will keep those who are saved till the end. A person who is Truly Born Again, cannot lose his or her salvation. But those, who are like, what Timothy or Titus, say's that there are some who are like clouds without water, they may have been enlightened, but, are wishy washy in their faith, when it comes down to true faith, they are saved always

I agree with the vine , but I was referring to the message in Roman's 11:17 and Paul being a Jew was speaking how we are grafted in and to read all about Abraham is truly amazing, how God picked him to be the father to all nations, coming from a pagan land as he did and God spoke to him and told him to travel into a land he did not know and he did by faith. Peace be with you God Bless you

Luke 16:22-25 was just a parable. The Bible is as clear as day where the dead go and is back to the ground until Christ's second coming when they shall be resurrected. Eccl 9:5,6, 1 Thess 4:16,17, Dan 12:2. It was based on what the Sadducees believed that the righteous ascend when they die while sinners burn eternally in hell and there is no resurrection after physical death.

Kindly read John 15:1-6. Jesus says He is the true vine and we are the branches. The branches that bare fruit a retained whereas them that bare not are cut off. Baring fruit is keeping the faith of Jesus and keeping his commandments Rev 14:12. Not baring fruit is the opposite, which most of the Jews did, they believed not whom God had sent which equates to eternal life John 17:3 and hence cut off.

He was God's chosen to be the father of his nations he is the Olive tree

Paul was speaking of the Olive tree which began with Abraham a promise again made by God to him that he would deliver his people the Jew , who bragged about being God's chosen and we gentiles were heathens without God this is what he is referring to here. we are grafted in because of their boasting and denying of Christ . Luke 16:22-25 shows who Abraham was and do not call him unclean, God's heart

Salvation to mankind was first foretold by God Himself in Genesis 3:15. There was no Abraham at that time. Abraham was a Chaldean a pagan but chosen by God to be the root in the lineage of Christ coming.But the Isralites rejected Christ and for their unbelief they were cut off. We were grafted in because of believing in God as John 1:12 says, we became the children of God.

God made a promise to Abraham he being the olive tree, the Church his people would be saved, by their boasting of being God's chosen we gentiles being heathens would never be worthy of God's grace, why God broke branches off, so we should live grateful,humble and walk in faith, giving thanks to the Father always , die to our fleshly ways so we may be saved, don't be boastful we can be cut off

Paul spoke of it being Abraham's tree, God made the promise to him, that his people will be his people and we are only grafted in by unbelief and should never boast in that fact be grateful, for we are of wild olive trees and Abraham's was the pure olive tree GB

On the second paragraph of this chapter's commentary, I beg to differ. One Abraham is not the root but Christ is. We are are grafted in Christ as the olive tree for He alone is Holy and hence if the root be holy so are the branches. Second we are saved by grace hence made heirs through the faith of Christ and not Abraham, Abraham was mere man like the rest of us. John 1:12, we are children of God.

The olive tree analogy is speaking only of Israel and Gentiles who became part of Israel. That has to be the case since the body of Christ never had or has conditional salvation, but Israel did. To truly understand this chapter one has to know all the rest of Paul's epistles. Israel, the body of Christ and the little flock of faithful Jews are separate entities.

In it's context, Romans 9, 10 and 11 is to and about the nation of Israel, how they had it's standing with God, how they lost its' special standing when they rejected Christ and how they will be born again during Christ's second coming. They were born the first time in Exodus 4:22 when they were delivered out of Egypt and received the Old Covenant, they will be required to be born again.

Yahweh's? Salvation is for: All that are Called( John 6:44) Called Not Only Jews But Gentiles Also---I Will Call Them My People( Romans 9:24-33, 10: 1-21) Being of The Blood line Does not Guarantee Salvation( Romans 2:28-29) Through their Fall Salvation is Come Unto The Gentiles to Provoke Them to Jealousy( Romans 11:11) All Nations, Kindreds, People and Tongues, Stood Before The Throne( Revelation 7:9

Amen, Alex Jesus said you Must be Born Again. Very easy to see there is no debate or what we think it’s MUST.

Verse 33: there is no end to what we can learn about Jehovah God’s thoughts, words, or ways.

As silly humans we try to rationalize, dispute, make arguments, make our own private interpretations , But in verse : 33--- O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! is the answer, we will never understand his ways.---There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the LORD..

Romans 11:33-36 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.