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This chapter gets into the trials and tribulations of the saints (v. 4); and the subsequent judgment of God in verse 6. One can't help but wonder how great the accumulated sins from the dawn of the church age until now is; and how it factors into wrath once it finally transpires.

(see Rev. 18:5).

Verses 7 through 10 make it clear that indeed the return of Christ; destruction of enemies (in Armageddon and judgment in hell); as well as our promotion ruling and reigning on earth in the Millennial period (verse 10) factors in. There are 3 passages that state every knee shall bow and every tongue confess ( Isaiah 45:23; Philippians 2:10 and Romans 14:11).

We are not to seek vengeance ( Romans 12:19). However; we are doing God no favors by attempting to dampen down a character attribute that He has; in this case rewarding His saints and punishing the wicked. Perhaps those who being persecuted are the best examples of those who understand the need for Divine justice. The saints under the throne in Revelation certainly aren't scolded for asking "how long" ( Rev. 6:9); with response in verses 10-11. With Paul and the churches under heavy persecution at this time this was a necessary statement; and the frequent reminder to endure until the end. In order to warn others of the wrath to come; we certainly must believe in eternal judgment and a literal hell.

If we think people simply cease to exist (or are annihilated) it dumbs down the message and doesn't help anyone to have full conviction of sin ( John 16:8-11).

Romans 14:10,11,12,

Matthew 25:31-46, 1Peter 4, Matthew 12:36, Romans 2, James 2, 2Peter 3:7, Jude 1, Revelation 20,

2Peter 2:9, 1John 4:17,

Hopefully these are helpful in your learning

Dear "Wade Harrids" Acts 2:38 are words that many are saved by, and are my favorite words. It also says that: If there are any pp who doubt whether they should be baptized with water, they usually repent, as they understand the word here. Amen

Personally, i believe that a water baptism is a covenant of good conscience with the Lord. This is also confirmed by one of the Apostles in:

1 Peter 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Amen.

Personally, i also think we can change the tactics with water burial/baptism. Because many shy people don't actually get baptized. Because of the white apron they will dress with. Shows the most delicate things a person has.

A proper baptism must take place in the person's own everyday clothes. You could probably say that they should be freshly laundered in that case. In the sea under the sky it is not so difficult. But there is probably chlorine in the baptismal font.

God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ John 7:10-24

Can you explain Acts 2:38

Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, Exodus 22:22, Psalms 146:9, Deuteronomy 24:17, Proverbs 15:25, Zechariah 7:10, Deuteronomy 24:20, Jeremiah 22:3, Deuteronomy 26:12, Malachi 3:5, Romans 14:12

Tonya,

Thank you for reaching out with your question. Romans 14:12,13

Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

2 Corinthians 5:10 - For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Revelation 2:10 "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life."

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

1 Cor 9:24-27 run the race

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

2 Peter 3:17

Luke 8:5-18

1 Timothy 4:1

2 Peter 2:20-22

Hebrews 3:12

Galatians 5:4

1 Corinthians 15:2-8

2 Peter 2:20-21

Romans 11

Hebrews 6:4-6

Important to read all scripture in its full context, not just cherry pick. When reading in context its obvious from countless passages, parables, teachings that God wants us to obey him! Satan deceives believers into assuming doing evil is ok; it's not.

Hi dear "Phil Hosey" yes he said it to the Jews. Exodus 8-11

But it is probably good for a person to take / get a day off. Do not slave around and be bound to earthly things. And we have taken Sunday off for many years now. The authorities are behind and take away all Christian holidays these days. The ones we have at least had for 2000 years!

That which you have faith for live in it, see it and be in it. For everything you do that is not of faith is sin. Romans 14:23 And if your profession dictates Sunday work day, what are you going to do then be fired?

Here Paul writes to the Galatians, stern words. But they are for us too. Galatians 3. Then do everything to the glory of God and remember that the law crucified Jesus when He rose again on the third day. Jesus loves u, love you in Christ. It fulfills the whole law, Amen Stay strong in Gods word.

I suppose this is what you are meaning.

Acts 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I (none); but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.

I Timothy 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. (6) But godliness with contentment is great gain.

Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

James, brother in Faith of Jesus Christ our Savior

John 13:34,35, Matthew 22:39, we all are to love one another

James 1:27, 2Timothy 2:24, Catholic have hospitals for wounded, known for helping widows & orphans, yet we all should be humbly teachable

Matthew 25:31-46,

Romans 14:4, GOD will judge ultimately, Romans 14:12,

These scriptures alert me: Jeremiah 7:18, Jeremiah 44:17-30 not to worship Queen of heaven, not to give offering either,

Matthew 23:9, call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father which is in heaven. Matthew 23, please read whole chapter, it actually corrects several Christian churches & leadership titles.

John 14:6, Acts 4:10-12,

1Timothy 4:1-3, false to teach forbidding to marry, 1Corinthians 7:28, 1Corinthians 7:2-6, by leaving these out of teaching & allowing into ministry, only the supposed abstainer may have perpetrated the horrible stain in that part of the Church today.

Hopefully these are helpful in this discussion

There are several reasons someone asks this question. I'd like to address the core of your question. If you're having situations in your life that seem impossible, please remember GOD can do impossible! He "said" & the entire Galaxy came into existence, Genesis 1, the Bible is full of GOD's miraculous compassion, 2Kings 7, notice there was a horrible time with horrible actions, 4 leperous men, (usually cast out away from other's because of it) they were in a seemingly hopeless situation. Yet GOD had already made provision for all the City.

GOD cares for us even more than He does the sparrow. 1Peter 4:12-14, 1Peter 1:7-13, hope to the end. 1Peter 2:19-25,

Psalms 139, Matthew 10:22, endure to the end. Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not kill."

With that said, instead seek The Savior,John3:15-16, Jesus Christ understands Luke 22:40-48, Matthew 26:36-39, Hebrews 4:15

John 17, Jesus overcame so we can endure through by His example, Revelation 3:21, Romans 12:21 to live is good. 1John 4:4, John 16:33, Hebrews 2:17,18,

We all have to live our own lives & will give account. Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:12,

I hope, if you've suffered such a tragic, sad loss, that GOD gives you comfort.

I pray in either situation. GOD gives you direction, hope, encouragement, faith & comfort. Stay in HIS Word.

Hopefully this is helpful. Please let us know if you need prayer.

Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, Philippians 2, Romans 14:12, 2Peter 2, 2Timothy 2, whole chapters relevant

Also note 2Timothy 2:19, sealed, but commanded depart from iniquity

Hebrews 3:6-19,

John 13:34, Romans 12:10,

Hopefully these are helpful

Yes, according to the Bible. It also depends on one's definition of "saved" and when this event occurs. Are people saved while still on earth instantly after they say their first prayer, at some point later, or are they saved after they are judged by God Himself? What does the Bible say...

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race" (not the race was already won.)

2 Peter 3:17

Luke 8:5-18

1 Timothy 4:1

2 Peter 2:20-22

Hebrews 3:12

Galatians 5:4

1 Corinthians 15:2-8

1 Corinthians 4:5

2 Corinthians 5:10 whether "good or bad". People are sorted at this time.

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

OSAS believers: "Ok, but a Christian would never do that."

Christians no longer have freewill to sin?" Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

"OSAS: But no one has ever done that."

Sadly, many Christians fall away. Look at "ex-Christian" on Reddit with 107,000 members. Very prominent pastors have denounced faith and later denied Jesus is Lord.

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Hebrews 6:4-6

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

God bless and pray for wisdom and truth.

Please read Psalms 37, Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:12,

Take heart sister, GOD knows & it's all through the Bible that HE cares about how people are treated. Especially in HIS Church: Matthew 23:13

Matthew 23, Mark 7:6, John 15:18, Matthew 7:15-27,

Read Also: Romans 12, whole chapter

Hopefully these help & encourage you, also guide you to keep on smiling & blessing,

The scripture that keeps coming to mind is: Romans 14:1-19,

Hopefully these are helpful

Hi Lynne,

There have been many discussions about this. People differ in opinion. James 1:5, I ask you pray for wisdom & discernment of truth.

Why do you ask, this question like this?

1st we have Luke 16,

Then we have Paradise mentioned 3 times, in: Luke 23:39-46, 2Corinthians 12:2-4, Revelation 2:7,

Out of the Grave: Ezekiel 37:12,13, Matthew 27:52,53, John 5:28,

Judgement : Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, Romans 14:12, 1Peter 4:1-5, Matthew 12:36,

Jesus being the 1st born: Romans 8:29-39,

Hopefully these are helpful

Sons of God:

Galatians 2:20

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

2 Corinthians 6:16

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people

Psalms 43:4

Then will I go unto the altar of God, unto God my exceeding joy: yea, upon the harp will I praise thee, O God my God.

Psalms 56:4

In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.

Job 34:12

Yea, surely God will not do wickedly, neither will the Almighty pervert judgment.

Ephesians 5:17

Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

Stay in the Kingdom of God:

Romans 14:17

For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

1 Corinthians 4:20

For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

The Obedience of Prayers:

Thank you my fellow believer. I have looked them up. My prayers include Israel visit in the near future. I may attend one of his concert.

Enjoy the kingdom of God.

Romans 14:17

For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Dear D W I, am not a fan to ppl who always see what other ppl do. In Peace :) but what am afraid for is: Too be sleepy, so if its The Lord or not, i try always to remember too wake up. Like tonight, from northen Europe. The birds are not in sleep eighter.

But then ill think of the web site KJV and my heart lifting up in the high, not sky yet. Here on the web with all my brothers and sisters i feel like home, yes indeed. A good place too be.

Jesus will never leave anyone behind.

But our brother Paul talk alot of sleepy ppl in

1 Corintihans 15:6 15:18 :15:20 and may other places example in 1 Corintihans 11:30.

Jesus talk about He will wake Lasarus up. Here i read a lot of sleepy/dead ppl who Jesus will wake. Or humbly am i wrong?

Stay strong in the word of God, love u in Christ.

Revelation 21:7 To him that overcometh shall inherit all things.

Romans 14:17 The Kingdom of God is not meat and drink but rightness and peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Not sure how after we inherit all things some may not have access to all of God's eternal Gift.

Romans 14:7-12, Philippians 2:1-11, Matthew 7,

Hopefully these are helpful

Brother Jesse:

Revelation 13:5 And there was give him (man) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him for forty two months.

One thousand two hundred ninety days. Forty two months. Three and a half years. Christ ministry on earth.

Daniel 12:11 And from the time daily sacrifice shall be taken away (old covenant) and the abomination THAT MAKETH DESOLATE SET UP, there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days.

Revelation 11:15 The seventh angel sounded (Christ's resurrection), ....saying, the kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ: and he shall reign for the age of the age.

John 19:30 .....It is finished ......

Hebrews 2:8 ....we see NOT YET all things put under him.

You commented the other day that just because we don't believe, doesn't make it not so.

Christ said he speaks as if all things are done.

We should look at his words as if all things are done.

Hebrews 4:3 For we which believed (his words) do enter into rest ......the works were finished before the foundation of the world.

Philippians 2:11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Romans 14:11 For it is written, AS I live saith the Lord, Every knee shall bow, and every tongues shall confess

to God.

It's this lake of fire (for our God is a consuming fire) that CAUSES Confession to salvation.

I'm out of characters, give your rebuttal and I will respond.

God Bless YOU!

Suze

Hello, I don't think Mishael checks this comment section. l read your question, I will give you my opinion, an example I went through & scriptures I find relevant. Hopefully these are all helpful.

1st if we're personally bothered in our spirit about something it may be the HOLY Spirit telling us it's wrong. Ephesians 4:30, John 14:23-26, 1Corinthians 2:10-16,

2nd if we're doubtful, is that also indication it's wrong? Romans 14:22-23, scripture in context, whole chapter: Romans 14,

3rd, is this were loving GOD, hating your ._.__ comes in? Are we willing to serve GOD over love of family? Luke 14:26,

4th, Luke 14:27, not being a cross you put in your pocket, around your neck or on the wall: Micah 5:12,13, Deuteronomy 18:9-14, Nahum 1:14, Deuteronomy 4:14-20, Deuteronomy 4:23-25, I even have personal conviction about wearing a cross, since I accepted JESUS as my Savior at young age. Something just bothered me inside about it spiritually. Even though some were special "Christian" gifts. & many people wear them.

5th, One day recently, I saw a "Christian" bookstore selling crucifixion nails as jewelry. I cringed. Then I thought if someone was killed, raised again from the grave; would that person eagerly embrace another that had the weapon or thing that tortured & caused the pain & death, hung around their neck? or would they feel multiple emotions triggered by it? I thought of someone wearing a pill, bullet, ect. of a loved one, in resemblance, remembrance.

Luke 14,

6th, sometimes we're an example to others, in these matters set before us as tests. 1Corinthians 10:13,14, James 1:12, 2Corinthians 3:2,

Hopefully helpful

1st off; GOD is highly intelligent and is JUDGE. HE created all the stars and knows them by name. HE knows when a single hair falls from HIS creatures. HE is a heart knower and only judge who is a righteous and just JUDGE. No one will perish that doesn't deserve too ( Romans 14:12). There is no 2nd chances but there are many who never got a 1st chance. It is written the millennium will be a time of teaching. The elect will be able to go to sister/brother/near kin and try to save them.

John 5:25 There will not be 1 soul that will perish that want have a chance to choose to side with GOD or Satan, choice completely theirs.

Revelations 20:6

Romans 14:4, John 13:34,35,

Please read: Isaiah 26:19, Ezekiel 37:12,13, Matthew 27:50-54,

John 12:1, Romans 8, Matthew 9:18-25, Matthew 11:5, Matthew 28, Mark 9:9, Luke 24:46, John 2:22, John 5:19-29, = Matthew 25:31-46, John 11:25, John 11:39-53, John 12:9, Romans 14:9, 1Peter 4, Revelation 1:5-8,

Revelation 20,

Ephesians 5,

Hopefully these are helpful

Kelly,

I will attempt to answer your questions with guidance from the HOLY Spirit. With scripture.

Hebrews 4:12-15, Matthew 25:31-46,

Matthew 3:7, Matthew 16:1, Matthew 16:6, Matthew 16:12,

Romans 14:12, Matthew 18:23, 1Peter 4:1-19,

Hopefully these are helpful.

Well this is hard to answer.

As far as Mose's law is concerned please read in the book of Acts when apostle Paul went to Jerusalem, before being imprisoned there, what apostle James said to him: ( Acts 21:17-20)

v17-And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly.

v18-And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.

v19-And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.

v20-And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:

Pay attention to "Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law." What this shows? I don't think those Jews were not saved. Now whether this is true only for Jews and not for gentiles, I can not answer.

Now if you want to ask what happens in churches that preach that salvation must be accompanied by good works to get saved, my opinion is that as long as people there are reborn again and get baptised (the two necessary conditions for salvation) no matter what else they practise they still get saved (since they do those for God - Romans 14:6-10). God does not held one account for what one does not know but for what one chooses to do against His will. And some more. In my life I have met christians from those churches that surprise me with the good works they do and have met christians from reborn churches that have no interest at all in doing any good thing to help others. God wants us to become good Samaritans. And lets not forget that in the final judgement that is described in Matthew 25:31-45 people will not be sent to hell according to their faith but according to their works, not for what they had done, but for what they had NOT done.

Gob Bless you.

Matthew 12:31, Read in context to better understand what they were doing & who Jesus was talking to. Matthew 12, whole chapter

Romans 14:12, Matthew 12:36, Exodus 27:10,

Hi John. From my understanding of the Word on this subject, I don't connect the Jewish Sabbath (the 7th day), with the Lord's Day (the 1st day of the week). True, there are some who call this day, the Christian Sabbath, but I believe they are errant, as no such special day has been given to us, nor practised by the early Church. When they came on the first day of the week to break bread or collection for the saints ( Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:1,2), it wasn't a Sabbath celebration, but a Christian coming together for worship & fellowship.

Now some believers wish to keep the Jewish Sabbath holy & desist from all work. If that is their desire then so be it, but if one amongst them doesn't keep 'that' Sabbath, there shouldn't be a thought or a snide look or comment to their apparent failure. The one in Christ is free to keep any day for worshipping together & also any day for physical rest (see Romans 14:5,6; & the whole chapter of how a believer should consider others who do things or believe differently from others).