Discuss Romans 14 Page 5

Dear Earl,

I didn't understand your response to the topic at hand. It seemed to avoid the main question about what we're saved from, but that's ok. I hope what I wrote was at least considered. I did see your repeating of your belief that the KJV is a 'Catholic' Bible and that's untrue. And your idea that hell doesn't actually mean hell, but something nicer like a cellar or grave isn't true either. The Bible is already translated accurately by a team of experts who spent years methodically and prayerfully doing it word for word. You're one person claiming the opposite with no evidence for it, so I don't find the attacks on God's word as credible. Not sure what your goals are in attacking God's word publicly on a Bible site, but nonetheless, I'm glad you're here.

You asked: "For what purpose did GOD SAVE YOU."

I don't agree with the terminology "saved" past tense, because we haven't been judged yet. The Bible mostly uses the terminology shall or will be saved. Future tense, not past tense, because we are still living and have freewill to follow Jesus or not follow Him. The choice is ours.

Paul in the Bible said to run the race to the end to receive the prize, not the race was already over. 1 Cor 9:24-27

So I don't believe I have been "saved" from anything yet, nor has anyone else on earth, because we haven't been judged as it says we will be in 2 Corinthians 5:10. It says we "all" must appear to be judged. All means all. I understand some think they can skip judgment based on good behavior, but that's not Biblical. All means everyone. Here's another: Romans 14:12 "Every one of us..." 1 Corinthians 4:5. "Every one" means everyone, including Christians and non-Christians. 1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

But by following Jesus, can we have assurance and confidence in salvation? Yes. Philippians 1:6

If we don't follow Jesus, can we have assurance and confidence in salvation? No. Luke 12:5. Hebrews 10:26

God bless...

Brother Adam:

Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Philippians 2:11 And every tongue should confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

You said when this happens you are saved.

All mankind, at some point in this age or in the ages to come, is going to bow the knee and confess Jesus is Lord, therefore all mankind will be saved.

Romans 14:11

Isaiah 45:23

Man cannot be in HELL and also CONFESSING JESUS IS LORD.

The 7th day was the day GOD rested,and yes that is sabbath( exodus 20:8-11)this is the Mosaic law but we today honor the 1st day of the week to worship as that is the Day Jesus made the new convenant by rising from the grave. We are no longer under the mosaic law but the new convenant which He made us free, he won the victory and defeat hell and the grave, making it possible for us to be with him in heaven when he returns for us. So we worship on this the first day of the week. There is no command that either saturday or sunday be the day of worship. Refer to Romans 14:5-6 and make your own mind.

Such a lovely, encouraging, and helpful post.

The Lord to bless you Alice. God will help you__Mishael

Psalm 27:10

When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.

Romans 8:15

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Ephesians 1:5

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to HIMSELF, according to the good pleasure of his will,

There is no greater commandment from God than we are to love God and love others. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind, and all your strength. The second most important command is this: Love your neighbor the same as you love yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these ( Mark 12:30-31).

The ultimate commandment is to love. When we love God, we trust God, we trust God's Word, and we want to obey all His commandments. We love our neighbor (family, friends, children and strangers), we treat them with gentleness, kindness, patient, hope, support, trust, forgiveness, and we believe in them. In the same way, when we love ourselves, we are positive in our actions and hope, we believe in ourselves, and we believe in our position in Christ. When we love others, we are obeying God's greatest commandment.

Children's needs are small really: a bed, food, hugs and touch, a few special toys, a walk around the block to imprint where they live now, see other children. Assurance that you will never leave them; and that their mother is ok and they can talk to her in prayer. They don't need details unless they ask.

When sin happens, we wait 30 mins for impatience and anger to pass. Discuss the issue, both parties decide appropriate "punishment" calmly. I took a favorite toy and put high up out of reach for an hour so they see it and long to be restored to it. Set a alarm clock.

Yelling hardens the heart and resentment boils inside. Daily, read a few Proverbs & discuss their meaning.

So sorry about your daughter. Such a huge loss, especially with the way she died. This is hard to go through. My prayers are with you. As believers, we just don't think about these things happening to our kids as they grow through childhood since they are being raised in a Christian home. It is confusing, because we do not know why God allowed this to happen when we have tried our best to bring them up God's way and provide a loving faith filled environment for our children.

When awful things happened to my sons when they hit the teen years, I was blindsided, having thought that God would keep them due to the way we believed. I learned to pray every day for them since then. You are blessed to have two younger children, but surely you miss your daughter every day and grieve for her. Commit yourself to pray to God help. Grieve before Him. He will comfort you day by day. Pray for your other children more diligently than ever before.

Lean on friends and accept help. Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. I really don't think we can ever draw as near to Him as is possible. e will be your strength through this time. He is the Mighty One. God's blessings on you and your family.

Good morning Jennifer, I'm so very sorry for your loss. 2 Timothy 1:12 b this load is to heavy for you, commit it to Christ, and He will carry your load. I have proved it true. Isaiah 53:4,5 and Matthew 11:25-28. Give yourself time to mourn, but when thoughts crowd in with "if only, would've ,should've, say no! That's God's business, He will carry you and give you strength for your small children. He will carry you close to His heart like a shepherd does a lamb, leave it with Him He is able. You are in my prayers.

Dear Sister Jennifer,

So sorry for the loss of your daughter. Please trust in God, read your bible and He will strengthen you, and your faith will grow, and He will give you rest during this time of heavy burden. Here's some bible scripture that you may find comforting:

Matthew 11:28-30

28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Psalms 147:3

"He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds."

Psalms 73:26

"My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion for ever."

Psalms 34:22

"The LORD redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate."

God Bless.

Hi Jennifer Gods knows your need better than anyone else, also he knows your heart, these are for the mind to heal, He sent His Word and healed them. Romans 5:1+2 Peace with God, greatest cargoes of life come in over quiet seas.

Romans 8:28-39 more than a conqueror and nothing [think about that] can separate us from the Love of God which was in Christ Jesus our lord. You and God are not at odds anymore he is your Father and fathers meet the need of all His Children.

1 John 3:1+2 Beloved now are we the Sons of God, also 3:20-22 he's there to answer prayer and needs during confusion quilt, condemnation, because he knows we will deal with this stuff.

2 Timothy 1:7 Anything opposite of these three is not of God.



Change your mind change your heart

Put on in the mind Colossians 3:15-17 also Colossians 1:11-14 and Ephesians 3:14-20 notice how many times Christ is mentioned. We were saved by confessing Romans 10:9+10 and at that time we received the spiritual power that raised Him from the dead that why Paul wrote Christ in us the hope of Glory

Ephesians 4:23-32 Putting on the new man in the mind that's why I said change your mind change your heart. Proverbs as a man thinketh in His heart so is he.

Philippians 4:6-9 Be careful for nothing means anxious in verse 6, now verse 13 notice through Christ again that's the power that works in us.

Colossians 1:11-13 we are strengthen with might and we have been made partakers of the saints in light its incredible.

We have been made more that conquerors through Him that loved and loves us and those scripture are part of that. There are over 400 promises in Gods word to us who believe we can only do whar we know and act on.

Prayerfully this helps.

Hello, it really doesn't matter what man thinks, but what God says, correct? So, if you believe and trust God then go with God's word. Here's the problem: people are falsely assuming they're 'saved' before they're even judged. It doesn't say in the Bible we're saved before we're judged, but after. The judgment is to determine salvation. So, you have many here claiming they can't lose their salvation. But that won't occur until after this life. So, they are taking verses that are for that and assuming they apply now. But read the Word closely, Paul said we can have assurance of salvation. Not that we're saved and can do whatever we want with no consequence. Paul said to run the race to get the prize. But people here are thinking he said 'you already have the prize, so don't run any race, and enjoy the world.' It says don't conform to the world.

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Hebrews 6:4-6

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

2 Peter 3:17

Luke 8:5-18

1 Timothy 4:1

2 Peter 2:20-22

Dear Ruben,

I do not know what you are going through, you did not give a lot of detail and that's ok, but may I just speak the plain truth. If you are truly being called back in the fold, the road back may not be short or easy. We cannot just say a prayer or two and everything will be hunky-dory again. Please do not compare what you are dealing with to Job, our words can come to be if you know what I mean.

We must all work out our path of salvation, Ezekiel 18:20 Romans 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

Read Luke 15:11-32 Are you there yet? The word of God is our only defense against the principalities and powers of evil and believe me, they do not let go easily and they can be quite vicious. Spend every spare minute in His word and prayer, truly repenting, not holding on to anything, if it is any kind of obstacle let it go, even if you lose it all. Revelation 2:5

We must truly admit and understand what we have done. Jeremiah 2:19 We must know it may take time and not at all be easy. Hosea 5:15 When we truly have repented without any doubt, He will return Jeremiah 3:22 2 Hosea 14:4

Jonah was a great man of God, but he backslid from the will of God and went in his direction, not Gods. Look what God sent him to get his attention and change his direction. You can do it but do not get discouraged if things get worse and the temptations, not from God, but from the adversaries trying to hold you back. Turn adversity into strength, for what we lose in this life is nothing to what we will lose in the life to come. Mark 35:8 that's not just our physical life, it is the life we choose to live.

My prayer is for you to have the strength you will need.

RLW

Hello, this question was just asked yesterday, and probably every week on this discussion area.

Here's verses about it:

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Here's a previous discussion I found via advanced search and selecting discussions.

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More verses:

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

OSAS believers: "Ok, but a Christian would never do that"

"Christians no longer have freewill to sin? Is that true?"

Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Hebrews 6:4-6

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

2 Peter 3:17

Luke 8:5-18

1 Timothy 4:1

2 Peter 2:20-22

Hebrews 3:12

Galatians 5:4

1 Corinthians 15:2-8

2 Peter 2:20-21

Genesis has to be read slower. God created everything necessary for all creatures and man to be able to eat herbs, grass, nectar, meats, etc. Every creature right down to a snail or smaller, had exactly the perfect food.

Romans 14:2

For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth HERBS.

Romans 14:15

But if thy brother be grieved with thy meat, now walkest thou not charitably. Destroy not him with thy meat, for whom Christ died.

Romans 14:17

For the kingdom of God is NOT meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

1 Corinthians 10:31

Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.

Colossians 2:16

Let NO man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

1 Timothy 1: 1-4

Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the LATTER TIMES, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of DEVILS

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

3 FORBIDDING to marry, and COMMANDING to ABSTAIN from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

4 For every creature of God is good, and NOTHING to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

See, everything God made is good for us. In an agricultural society, people are very active and work off extra calories.

Not so much now in high-Tech society. If we eat too many calories, it stretches the stomach and the ribs and we walk leaning backwards.

My only comment is: I pray the Lord's Prayer over my food faithfully, because of things like covid and flu, ecoli, wisteria etc. I'm not paranoid; I just want to enjoy mealtimes. :D

Hi Michael,

Just one verse in the Bible is all it takes to refute the OSAS theory:

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

But there's so many more verses too. Paul is the one who said we can have assurance of salvation, but what people often do is the remove the contingent part- this requires us to "follow Jesus!" A Christian is an active Jesus follower. It's a pursuit that involves effort and transforming oneself. Not being slave to sin, but to righteousness. People want their cake and to eat it too, by not following Jesus, enjoying unlimited sin, but also demanding salvation like a spoiled, self-entitled brat. Some Christians even deny this reality. But Jesus already addressed that:

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Believe it or not, there are even people who don't want to do good. They claim that it's 'bad' to do good works. One should ask, did Jesus say that? If not, does that idea come from God or satan?

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

I think people would slander Jesus today for doing good works, just like they did back then.

Here are more verses (too many to even paste here):

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Hebrews 6:4-6

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not 'party' or sit on sofa.

Pray to God to know the truth.

Why are we not now - in the present, living out Isaiah 11:6-9? - Which tells us that the coming Kingdom will be free of harm. Isaiah 65:25, Hosea 2:18, Ezekiel 34:25, Romans 14:17.

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away.

It seems to me there is absolutely no reason to slaughter any sentient beings other than to fill our stomachs with rotting flesh. This practice does not paint a picture of the peaceable kingdom in the garden of Eden. Animal husbandry is barbaric-inhumane-void of compassion.

"Compassion, in which all ethics must take root, can only attain its full breadth and depth if it embraces all living creatures and does not limit itself to mankind." Albert Schweitzer

"I believe in my heart that faith in Jesus Christ can and will lead us beyond an exclusive concern for the well being of other human beings to the broader concern for the well-being of the birds in our backyard, the fish in our rivers, and every living creature on the face of the earth." John Wesley, Christian Theologian.

"I am persuaded you are not insensible to the pain given to every Christian, every humane heart, by those savage diversions, bull-baiting, cock-fighting, horse-racing, and hunting." John Wesley

In Genesis 9:3 God gave Noah the permission to eat animal flesh. This was a concession to man's sinfulness. But when you look at the verse in it's context, it is clear that God is only grudgingly giving humans this permission. "Vegetarianism practiced in the Garden of Eden ( Gen. 1:29-30, 2:16), and the prophecy that natural predators will live together peacefully in the future (Is 11:6-8), suggest that the eating of animal flesh isn't God's ideal." Steve W. Bemke

In the presence of Jehovah

Lino

Oh, we like sheep have gone astray, and He hath laid upon Him, the iniquity of us all. Is.53:6

He gave his life, for us to have, that we might receive Eternal

Life through Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. Oh, that our Country, would turn back to

God our Father, in Heaven. Every knee shall bow, and every tongue, shall confess that Jesus

is Lord and our Savior. Romans 14:11

Lindsey carter,

The Sabbath is and has always been the seventh day of the week, Constantine made a Sunday law in 321 A.D. The Roman Catholic Church at the Council of Laodicea - 364 A.D, this council was held to stop the Sabbath-keeping tendencies in the Eastern Roman Empire. The Council of Laodicea (Nicolaitans), produced sixty rulings, or canons, covering a broad range of topics. Doctrines other than Sunday were written by them and the penalties for not obeying them that has continued until today.

The New Testament tells us that trying to seek justification before God by keeping any part of the law automatically makes us responsible to keep the entire law. You will either stand before God and be judged by the law, or you will be established in the righteousness that comes by faith in Jesus Christ. Consider the following verses.

Read these and show your brother-in-law, ( Romans 3:20-24) ( Romans 14:2-6,13) ( Galatians 3:11-13) ( Colossians 2:11-16) There are more scripture you can find.

Regardless of what you may believe, man does not have the authority to change any law that God made and Jesus Christ fulfilled, especially how they changed it and the reason it was changed, but you cannot call Sunday the Sabbath. We are not to judge anyone for going to a church on Sunday or any day of the week. We are to worship in spirit regardless of where or what day, hopefully, every day. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law".

God bless,

RLW

Hi English Sasha Not getting intellectual here but to explain, the word bema is the original word used for judgement seat, one specific example Romans 14:10 the judgment seat of Christ is the bema where we will stand to get rewarded for what we did for God after we were born again.

We will not be punished for any sins because Christ has paid for those. The original languages used changes the specific meaning of the english translation depending on the context of where the word is used. You can find this information on line in a concordance. Hope this helps In His Service

Responding to you mentioning Hades and releasing the saints.

Luke 16:23

"And in Hell he lift up his eyes, (Note not hades) being in torments,"

Many counterfeits refuse to translate the Greek word "haides". Rather than translate "haides" to the word "hell", the counterfeit will transliterate the Greek word "haides" into the English "hades". By this trick the counterfeit attempts to extinguish the flames of hell. Hades is not "hell". Hell is flames, torments, weeping and wailing, complete darkness - forever. Hades is a new-age place of purification, or a fantasy place in Greek mythology. The Assyrian Hades is an abode of blessedness with silver skies called Happy Fields.

Then you also mentioned that Jesus went to release the other saints but the Bible says he went to minister to the lost souls.

1 Peter 3: 18-22

During the 3 day's before his resurrection.

Christ descended to HELL to Preach to the lost souls in hell who rejected Christ in the day's of Noah.

The generation before and during Noahs time never had the Bible or scrolls of the Laws of God only the very rich and elect few had knowledge of the old time law's.

Because Christ said all will have a chance to repent and to get to now him personally.

Romans 14:11

For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God."

Romans 10:14

How then will they call on Him (Jesus Christ) in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in Him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?

Hello Hui Ning Wu,

I would like to offer another perspective to your comment: "And once you are saved, you cannot lose your salvation no matter what you do!"

I ask, is this true? If true, I would love to commit sins tonight just for fun, because no consequence. Would love to do drugs, have an affair, go to certain clubs to party, maybe even get in a fight, because if we're saved no matter what it wouldn't matter and God would still reward me?

So, is this true that it's from God and not from satan? Before I do that I would first need to find it in clearly scripture and no other scripture would contradict it. So, if I look through the Bible for evidence, I find the following:

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

This suggests grace won't be given until Jesus comes- maybe even after we're judged. But people are telling me I'm saved and have grace now, so which is true? Does anywhere else in the Bible say that?

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Ok, I guess it does. So, we're not 'saved' yet, huh?

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

So, believing alone isn't enough? So, maybe faith and actions matter?

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

But many people are telling me the race is already won and that I can party. So, who is right: God's Word or man's word?

2 Peter 3:17

Luke 8:5-18

1 Timothy 4:1

2 Peter 2:20-22

Hebrews 3:12

Galatians 5:4

1 Corinthians 15:2-8

1 Corinthians 9:26-27 - this suggests 'trying' is good.

Evidence showing I should NOT commit sin. God bless...

Precious Judith: "The Bible says to remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy!" = TRUE! people: "He did not say that the Sabbath is for Jews but for mankind!":

God: "Speak thou also unto the children of ISRAEL, saying, Verily my SABBATHS ye shall keep: for it is a SIGN between Me and you throughout YOUR generations; that YE may know that I AM The LORD that doth sanctify YOU." Exodus 31:13 God TO Israel:

Why are you people not being obedient to God? God said he that worship me must worship me in Spirit and truth! = TRUE, for ISRAEL, In PROPHECY!!

Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

There is NO ISRAEL today, Only The Body Of CHRIST, Under GRACE, According to the preaching Of JESUS CHRIST, According to The REVELATION Of The MYSTERY (Romans - Philemon) What Does God Say TO Paul, in liberty and freedom, for the Body Of CHRIST?:

God: "Who art thou that judgest...One man esteemeth one day above another: ANOTHER ESTEEMETH EVERY DAY ALIKE. Let EVERY man BE FULLY PERSUADED in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto The LORD; and he THAT REGARDED NOT the day, TO THE LORD he doth not regard it...But WHY dost thou JUDGE thy brother?

...we shall ALL Stand before THE JUDGMENT SEAT of CHRIST.For It Is Written, As I live, Saith The LORD, every knee shall bow to ME, and every tongue shall confess to God.

So then EVERY ONE of us shall give account of himSELF TO God...Let us NOT THEREFORE JUDGE ONE ANOTHER ANY MORE:..." Please Carefully/Prayerfully Read/RE-read ALL of Romans 14:4-13

God: "Let NO man therefore JUDGE you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an HOLYDAY, or of the SABBATH days: Which are A SHADOW of things to come; but the body is of CHRIST!" Colossians 2:16-17

Thus, we DON'T JUDGE "sabbath" keepers, as we, FULLY PERSUADED with the Mind Of CHRIST, worship/REST In CHRIST, The TRUE {Sabbath} REALITY 24/7. God Is CLEAR!

Please be richly Encouraged, Exhorted, and Encouraged In CHRIST, And HIS WORD OF TRUTH, Rightly Divided!!

have you not read?

Isaiah 45:23

I have sworn by myself[god], the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Romans 14:11

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

you have to admit it if Paul believed this how true must it be?

Hi Sheila.

I Would like to give my opinion on this,

Being someone brought it to the Church and made it public, After seeing it in the newspaper Maybe an apology wouldn't hurt, There's weaker vessels out there that stumbles when they see something like this, It brings negative attention to the Church and to its leaders.

He's not asking them for forgiveness, He asks God for that, But apologize to the Congregation for the stir it might cause, and the picture he may have painted. Here is the context I'm trying to apply in Romans 14:13-23. Even though in Romans 14. they're talking about meat but you can draw an example out of it.

This is why I'm against a Christian drinking, It's because the World sees it and it hinders your testimony. And weaker Christians stumble, And it hinders his ability to apply Galatians 6:1-8. When he's trying to restore someone. If you have to drink perhaps a safer place to do it is at home.

Maybe here is an opertunity can be taken advantage of to see if someone is willing to Apply Galatians 6:1. in his case.

Galatians 6:1. Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

God bless.

Vs 17 chapter 14. The kingdome of God is not meet and drink, but righteousness joy and happiness in the holy ghost Joy can only be with happiness in the holy ghost her devotion to God makes her plight with the holy ghost untenable.. But can joy find happiness with the holy ghost or heavenly peace.

Sister Kimberly, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Romans 14:8 For whether we LIVE, we LIVE unto the Lord; and whether we DIE, we DIE unto the Lord: whether we LIVE therefore, or DIE, we are the Lord's.

John 6:20 This is the bread that cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and NOT DIE.

John 11:26 And whosoever LIVETH and BELIEVETH in me shall never die. BELIEVEST THOU THIS?

Luke 20:36 Neither can they DIE any more (because they DIED with Christ on the cross): for they are EQUAL to the angels; and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.

Revelation 14:13 ....Blessed are the dead which DIE IN THE LORD from henceforth....

1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy to be destroyed is DEATH.

Christ resurrection DESTROYED DEATH. (For those that BELIEVE)

John 8:51 Verily, Verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my sayings, he shall NEVER SEE DEATH.

Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto to you, There be some STANDING HERE (this was 2000 years age), which SHALL NOT TASTE OF DEATH, till they see the Son of man coming into his kingdom.

Colossians 1:27 ...THIS MYSTERY....CHRIST IN YOU....(The First SON OF GOD)

1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath LIFE; and he that hath not the Son HATH NOT LIFE.

Do these scriptures imply that we sleep and await and appointed time; or has our APPOINTED time ARRIVED upon the death of this earthly body.

You don't go to heaven; you BECOME a SON OF GOD. OMNIPRESENT not confined to one location or place.

God is absolute, he means what he says and says what he means, along with his Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. I don't understand those who are unsaved, in the entertainment industry, government and everyday life, that think it is cool or hip to be no character having people. In Romans Chapter 1:28-32, it talks about how the unsaved person enjoys sinning and sin, and the last verse states how those who enjoy sin and sinning are deserving of death. In the Book of Psalm Chapter 34:16 it says: The face of the Lord are against those that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the EARTH! The Lord also says he's not willing that ANY should perish, but that all come to repentance! The Lord wants people to be born again, saved, sanctified, filled with the Holy Spirit, and all their sins washed away by the Blood of Jesus Christ, but we realize, that this not going to be so, for many, when they stop breathing! (St. Matthew 7:14), meaning, for many. This being said, i have a question, why is it that those who are unsaved, enjoy sinning against the Lord so much, by not having Character! Why do they enjoy breaking the laws of the land? to be accepted by their peers? Why do they insist on telling God, that it's hip or cool to be a sinning fool against him?. Showing that they have no character, and that they are dishonorable? It's not hip or cool to be a person of no character and sinful, enjoying doing wickedness and sinning in the earth! The entertainment industry promotes this, and many of them are MISERABLE behind the scenes in their lives! Because, the word of God does NOT return void! If you are going around as a sinner calling God a liar for ANY reason! telling him that it's hip or cool to sin against him and live a life of no character and dishonorably before him, you will truly give an account to God! and You WILL reap what you sow, NO MATTER WHAT!( Romans 14:12, Galatians 6:7, Psalm 34:16, Romans 1:32) Live right, see good, live sinful, see death!

Jeremiah Chapter 18

1 The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,

2 Arise, and go down to the potter's house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.

3 Then I went down to the potter's house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels.

4 And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

Isaiah 29:16

Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

Isaiah 64:8

But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Romans 9:21

Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? (Read the chapter)

Mishael comment: I know in prophesy that Israel is the clay, but so are we.

The Lord is always working on us. In Isaiah 29:16, have you ever felt yourself being molded, pinched, a lump sliced off; and you almost cried, Lord what are You doing?

Ever felt like you were baking in the fire of Gods Love, for you?

Sometimes I wonder, "what is it (me) going to look like when you are finished with this piece?"

1 Thessalonians 5:11

Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

Romans 14:19

Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another.

It's hard to deny what the Bible so clearly says. Here are more verses saying the same thing about salvation. Jesus warned his followers many times through parables that most will go to hell. Judas was a follower until he turned his back on Jesus and sold Him out. He faced a horrible death and likely will go to hell. Christians unfortunately turn their backs on Jesus today- sometimes even prominent ones, including pastors, worship leaders, ministers. The common response I hear is either denial or 'they were never Christian'- then I ask them their definition of a Christian and then usually don't get a response. The Bible says all those things about security of salvation, but you can't stop reading there, this assumes you're following Jesus and many do for a period of time, but then start following the world or satan directly, without even realizing how far they have drifted. The Bible says to fear God. He will judge you and where you will go. Most won't take it seriously, will goof off, live for pleasure and will go to hell. People need to be warned of this so they will actually follow Jesus, and avoid the disaster that awaits. Jesus's parables were quite clear and He pounded that message into people. People who don't follow Jesus's commandments don't love Jesus. They might say they do, believe they do, but they don't if continue in sin.

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

Hi Melvin.

The Sabbath is a day of rest.

Reading your comment it seems you already know that. You have liberty

So go on and rest!!

Romans 14:4-5. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. LET EVERY MAN BE FULLY PERSUADED IN HIS OWN MIND.

Colossians 2:14-17. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

God bless.

Does double mindedness mean that a person is a believer but acting carnally or does it mean that a person is struggling between faith and unbelief? I have submitted a similar question before and have been concerned about this matter for a while. Does anyone have scripture and insights on this?

In my concerns about falling away and having thoughts of doubt and unbelief I have been thinking about the seal of the Holy Spirit and what is written in Romans 14:5. If anyone would please provide insight I would seriously appreciate it.