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The word Sabbath can be found over 100 times in the OT and over 50 times in the NT. The Sabbath (sabbat) is the seventh day of the week, on which we are to "rest," in remembrance that God created the universe in six days and "rested" on the seventh day ( Genesis 2:2). The word "rest" (katapausis) refers to resting both the body and the spirit. We renew our body by resting it and not working, and we renew the spirit by spending time with God's Word, with God, and by worshipping God.

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In Genesis, God numbers the days 1, 2, 3, 4, etc., through the month. Nowhere in the Bible are the days ever given names. Naming days was an early pagan practice. The Bible only says that ***Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the Sabbath of rest*** holy to the Lord ( Exodus 31:15). The Sabbath can be any seventh day.

Scriptures such as Romans 14:5-6 and Colossians 2:16 give Christians freedom to observe a special day. God requires that we have a Sabbath day of rest. He also desires that we worship and serve Him continually, every day, not just on the Sabbath.

Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you ( 1 Thessalonians 5:17-18).

We are commanded to Honor the Sabbath

For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: "On the seventh day God rested from all his works." There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience ( Hebrews 4:4, 9-11).

We are commanded to honor God and the Sabbath, but the Sabbath CAN BE ANY DAY of the week we pick to meet together. But the Sabbath is not the only day to worship the Lord. We should be worshipping the Lord DAILY.

Comment: WORK 6 days and REST on the 7th. If it falls on a week day, you rest on the next day.

Hi Norman,

I think all Christians struggle with the temptations of sin. Paul wrote about his struggle: Romans 7:19

In my opinion there's a difference in a Christian genuinely trying to follow Jesus and occasionally messing up and getting a little off track...

VS.

A Christian who assumes he's saved, because grace, and now feel entitled to sin as much as he wants, because grace. He used to follow Jesus, but doesn't really think about it much anymore. He calls himself a 'good person' by his own standards. He enjoys the world, enjoys indulgences (sin) and rationalizes it as being OK. Then puts the world first pursuing fun, money, status, and following Jesus becomes a lower priority. He assumes he's going to heaven, because grace and his actions don't matter anymore and he's a 'good person'.

In my understanding, the Christian who knows he's a flawed sinner and desperately needs Jesus's grace and follows Jesus and tries to emulate Him and apply His teachings is on solid ground. The fact that someone cares and is thinking about it is a heathy sign: Luke 12:5. Sounds like you fit in this category. Remember Paul killed Christians and was forgiven, so no sin other than blasphemy is too great to be forgiven, if genuine repentance.

But the Christian who already assumes he's all good, and uses grace as a license to justify committing unlimited sin and following the world instead of Jesus, I believe is in danger.

Jesus warned His followers (Christians) over and over about heaven and hell through His parables, etc. That few people will go to heaven and most will go to hell.

Matthew 7:21

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13

Romans 11

John 14:15

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5

Hi Carolyn. Romans 14:16 shouldn't be forced to mean what you've suggested, about a married man being seen in public with other women. We can't pull out a Scripture & try to make it read something that it wasn't intended to do.

This chapter is speaking of some of those delicate & difficult questions that arose at that time, in respect to the behaviour between Jew & Gentile believers. And these questions centred around food and observance of particular days, rites, etc. The Jewish converts expected that the Gentiles would also bind themselves to Jewish customs & adherence to Mosaic Laws. The matter of circumcision came up in Acts 15:1,2 and Galatians 2:3,4. Here in Romans chapter 14, matters pertaining to food offered to idols, Jewish fasting days, clean & unclean animals, and subsequently, judging another because of their belief & therefore resulting in not walking in love & understanding with each other.

So verse 16: "Let not then your good be evil spoken of", tells us that as Christians, we should be aware that even though we might enjoy our liberty in Christ to do many things that might appear wrong in the sight of others (e.g. Jews, or those weak in faith or unlearned in the Scriptures), we should abstain from doing so, if it means that strife & controversy arise leading to unkind words exchanged & separation from each other.

However, I do agree with you that a married man should be careful in how close he gets to other women: the time he spends with her or the places they meet for discussion, since that meeting, though maybe perfectly harmless & genuine, may easily be misconstrued by another. In that instance, I would use 1 Thessalonians 5:22: "Abstain from all appearance of evil." And if you need to share this with a man (a husband?), the Scripture can be used as part of a 'loving' discussion to the pitfalls in such an association, as well as a misunderstanding or gossip by others.

Carolyn

""Let not then your good be evil spoken of:" I thought this meant if you are a married man you shouldn't be seen in public with other women even if you say they are just friends."

What should I say to him? He gets angry if I tell him he is wrong.

"Let not then your good be evil spoken of:" I thought this meant if you are a married man you shouldn't be seen in public with other women even if you say they are just friends.

BSP - Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

Hi Norman,

I would just read what God says and ignore what man says. If you click on these or hover over them you'll see what each Bible verse says. It's clear to me what it says and means and is interesting how some others word hard to try to make it mean something else. 1 Peter 5:8

Matthew 7:14

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

People have freewill to choose good or evil:

Psalms 25:12

Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

Psalm 119:30

Luke 16:13

Proverbs 3:31

Fear God:

Joshua 24:14

Psalms 25:12

Proverbs 1:29

Seek God:

Psalms 63:1

"I'm not a bad person". Everyone thinks they're good, including the wicked.

Romans 3:23

Mark 10:18

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Hello Chris,

If you agree that your definition of a Christian is different, then what is your definition? What exact criteria makes someone a Christian in your view?

My criteria is: believe Jesus Christ, repent/confess sin, and be baptized. Matthew 10:32, John 3:16, Luke 5:32, Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16. A Christian is a Christ follower, which is an action. It is an ongoing activity and responsibility to follow Jesus and obey Him and strive to live a holy life. It takes great effort to do this avoid sin. Look at Paul's struggle in Romans 7. John 14:15. Romans 12:2, James 2:26, John 8:11.

The gentleman I previously spoke about did all the above and is a Christian, but you said he wasn't. Why not? In your view is a Christian not a Christian if he sins just once, or twice, or does it depend on the sin?

And Jesus's followers were indeed Christians. A literal Christ follower is as true to being a Christian as you can possibly get. They literally followed Him around all day, listened to His teachings, believed Him, tried to emulate Him. Judas and Peter both denied and betrayed Him as Christians, because they had freewill to do so, just like Satan had freewill in heaven to do what he did, and just like so many Christians do today, by leaving, denying the faith, committing sin.

What is most sad is this Christian I referred to living in sin right now is doing so because of messages he's been told like you're telling. He's been brainwashed into believing he is already saved and he can now do whatever he wants- that it's impossible to lose his salvation. And now he's enjoying sin and doing all kinds of evil, because he was told he's saved and in the book of life. Christians who think they can get by with committing unlimited sin are completely ignoring what Jesus said. ( John 14:15). That's like slapping Jesus in the face. Romans 14:13. We are to not cause others to stumble.

Kathy, you asked where in the Bible it says that salvation can be lost and someone was kind enough to respond and show you exactly where. Some of the questions were already answered on the reply.

I will go ahead and reply to your specific questions again in hope that this could be a genuine question.

>If salvation can be lost, by what means?

Luke 12:10 says blasphemy of the holy ghost is unforgiveable. That means if someone chooses to commit this sin, Christian or not, they will not be forgiven and will go to hell.

Hebrews 10:26

"For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,". This means if a Christian continues in unrepentant sin they are in danger of having no grace to save them.

>Those scriptures you gave are misquoted.

No, they are not misquoted. When you hover over them they show the 100% correct scriptures. When I referred to them I highlighted the portion of scripture being referred to by using elipses... For proper context one should read the whole chapter and book.

>Here you have my salvation but you practiced free will and sinned so I retract your salvation.??? Really?

Is this an emotional argument being presented against the Bible? You will have to take that up with God. Luke 12:10 is clear and there's not much room to interpret it any other way. I'd be quite surprised if Christians who have denounced the faith, turned their back on God, who hate God and have chosen to commit unlimited sin, are welcomed to spent eternity with God in heaven. Likewise, what Jesus said in John 14:15 is clear. If someone doesn't obey, that means they don't love Jesus. Do you expect ho doesn't love Jesus go to heaven?

I've also heard an illogical argument claiming that real Christians can't or won't deny Jesus, as if they no longer have freewill. If this were true then there wouldn't be "ex-Christian" social media forums. Prominent Christian evangelists have denounced the faith before. Satan is real and can deceive Christians.

>Salvation at judgement?

Romans 14:12. 1 Peter 1:13, 2 Corinthians 5:10, 2 Peter 2:9

Hi Andrew, that's not what that verse means. Having the holy spirit sealed to you doesn't mean you're stripped of freewill to commit sin and doesn't mean you don't have choices still of who you will follow: Jesus or satan. We're not saved until after we're judged and this doesn't happen until after this life. 1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time." 1 Corinthians 9:24-27, Matthew 7:21

Also blasphemy was mentioned as a warning for a reason. If someone claims Christians are without sin they are not being honest, Ecclesiastes 7:20. And someone claiming they can do whatever they want (sin) and face no consequences are gravely mistaken. John 14:15.

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Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

HIM with WHOM we have to do; v.13 = Every Christian, yea, every single individual, must consider this statement very foreboding deserving pause of deep contemplation. Keep in mind, it falls within the context of ample emphatic warnings against "hardening your hearts in unbelief".

The expression, "to do" is the word (transliterated "logos"; pronounced "LOG-os"), meaning a "word", "saying", "discourse", and/or "declaration".

The expression "to do" translates from the same Greek root as the expression "give account" recorded in Romans 14:11-12: "So then every one of us shall give account of himself to GOD."

Each and every individual saint will stand before the Judgment Seat of CHRIST to explain and "account for" the motives of the lifestyles they lived in the name of Christianity (cp. Ecc. 11:9; Mt. 12:36; 18:23; Rom. 14:12; Php. 2:10; Heb. 13:17; 1Pet. 4:5).

Every Christian individual will answer for themselves without the support of excuses or blame on others. Every individual will either stand to receive his reward, or fall to suffer loss, based on their own merits.

Even demonic tongues are required to confess and give account when LORD JESUS CHRIST confronts them. Compare the actions and confession of Legion when meeting The LORD ( Mk. 5:6-7). Legion "ran and worshiped HIM (LORD JESUS) with the confession, "What have I to do with THEE, JESUS, THOU SON of The MOST HIGH GOD?" (Compare Lu. 4:33-34.)

Additionally, when many of CHRIST's disciples rejected and forsook HIM, HE asked the remaining twelve, "Will ye also go away?" Peter answered with this confession: "LORD, to whom shall we go? THOU hast the Words of Eternal Life." ( Jn. 6:66-68).

Thomas uttered the most poignant confession when he saw LORD JESUS CHRIST after HIS Resurrection: "My LORD and my GOD" ( Jn. 20:28).

Eventually and most assuredly, JEHOVAH GOD HIMSELF declared ( Isa. 45:23) every tongue "shall" actually and factually confess "that JESUS CHRIST is LORD".

Dear Brother Michael,

I will agree that many of the old ceremonial laws, including animal sacrifices, and other old customs that were previously required have been eliminated because they are no longer required in order to receive God's forgiveness, as it was during the old testament days before Christ.

Christ became the sacrificial lamb. God gave us the ultimate gift and total sacrifice of his Son Jesus Christ. And now, through Christ we can be forgiven and saved.

You quoted Paul in Colossians 2:16

"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

True no man can judge another. The judging will be performed by Christ. But this scripture you quoted above does not eliminate the need to follow God's 4th commandment! This scripture simply states they we should not judge one another. You conveniently pulled out the word Sabbath and then you interpret it to mean we can eliminate the need to follow the 4th commandment! I read and understand this scripture in a different way than you. To me, it means if a brother or sister does not keep the Sabbath we are not to judge them.....Christ will judge.

Romans 14:10

"But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ."

We will all eventually be judged by Christ. I will continue to believe and strive to follow God's 10 Commandments, including the 4th Commandement: Keep Holy the Sabbath. God's 10 commandments will always exist, until heaven and earth pass.....this is from the mouth of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 5:18

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

You have quoted the apostle Paul in scripture regarding the Sabbath, and I am quoting Jesus. If there is a conflict between them I will respectfully defer to Jesus.

God Bless

what a mighty purpose we have in Him

and what a mighty privilege

A Ministry of PRAYER

2 Corinthians 5:18-21

And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the MINISTRY OF RECONCILIATION: to wit, that God was in Christ, RECONCILING the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us THE WORD of reconciliation. Now then WE ARE AMBASSADORS FOR CHRIST, as though God did beseech you by us: WE PRAY YOU in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Hebrews 2:17

Wherefore in all things it behoved him (Jesus) to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make RECONCILIATION for the sins of the people.

Ezekiel 45:15

And one lamb out of the flock, out of two hundred, out of the fat pastures of Israel; for a meat offering, and for a burnt offering, and for peace offerings, to make RECONCILIATION for them, saith the Lord GOD.

Daniel 9:24

.....to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make RECONCILIATION for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Leviticus 8:15

And he slew it; and Moses took the blood, and put it upon the horns of the altar round about with his finger, and purified the altar, and poured the blood at the bottom of the altar, and sanctified it, to make RECONCILIATION upon it.

2 Chronicles 29:24

And the priests killed them (animals), and they made RECONCILIATION with their blood upon the altar, to make an atonement for all Israel: for the king commanded that the burnt offering and the sin offering should be made for ALL Israel.

Comment: We are priests through Jesus. Our prayer life is important. We are bold through His righteousness. Be strong and faithful to pray.

Mishael

Jerry

i don't see anywhere in this tread where someone said the the sabbath was moved to Sunday, in fact we Adam said made it clear "Sounds like gathering on the first day ( Acts 20:7) of the week to worship is being confused with observing the Sabbath." in other words we're not saying that.

We're saying they gathered on the 1st day of the week.

following Christ is a 24/7 lifestyle that the Holyspirit moves you to do, not the 10 commandments, so yes Saturday is a Holy Day and so is the other 6 days. I also don't see where I or anyone said the 10 commandments was abolished, but I gave you Colossians 2:14-17 (KJV) Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

What Paul is saying here is what he said in Romans 7:9.For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. And Romans 8:3. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

And where did we judge you?

Romans 14:4. Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

GOD BLESS

Hi James,

As I can't tell exactly your detail of "stand up for the Lord". Of coarse we are to keep our faith and hope till the end and never deny our Lord as in 1 Peter 3:15-17.

The state of this world is much worse than many can plainly see. The things done behind the scenes are far worse than many people would believe. The deception going on in this world is huge.

If you are implying maybe it's time to stand up and take our world back by force? I believe we are past that and that is what the "powers" of this world want. As their plans of "divide and conquer" are again deeper than any really know.

I myself have come to peace with what is going on in this world. The only thing that matters, to me anymore, is being with the Lord Jesus Christ and our Father. Even though the earth, and the things in it, are so beautiful it is all vanity. We are all going to perish, our physical bodies, one day and to me that is my destiny and what I wait on daily. To be with the Lord where He is. Not in this world full of evil that is deeper than many know.

I believe staying peaceful no matter what happens is a way of showing the Spirit of Christ in you. Did Jesus Christ or any of His Apostles fight when they were arrested, persecuted, then put to death? As I'm sure you know, no. They stayed innocent and when put to trial just let the Holy Spirit flow in them when asked questions. As Christ probably was the most quiet in His persecutions. 1 Peter 2:21-23.

So as I just felt to write you this reply to show that violence is never the way and nothing good ever comes from it. It is better to stay innocent than to get involved with fighting. Of coarse this does not mean "don't speak the truth" or keep quiet when you see something wrong. Just don't let anger get you riled up too much. God knows everything that is going on. 2 Corinthians 12:9-10.

My reply to you is from the heart. Keep the full armor of God, Ephesians 6:11-17.

God Bless you in these tough times James.

some one slams your right cheek turn the left cheek, today we are being punched in the nose are we to take that or to say its time to stand up for the lord?

Dear Martha, God is manifest in three persons, The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. You are made in the image of God. Spirit Soul and Body. ( 1Th 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.)

Just as you are three beings in one person, God is three persons in one God. Objects in this world have three dimensions. Water can be liquid, solid and gas. It is water. Light can be felt (infrared) seen( visible) and damaging to your skin or eyes(ultraviolet) It is all light.

Yes Jesus is God and has a special function in what is called the Godhead. Acts 17:29

I understand your son's reluctance to work on a day set aside to rest in God. Have him read Romans 14:1-12

Those who are" in Christ", have entered into his rest (sabbath). Jesus said come unto me and I will give thee rest.

Jesus is the sabbath for those who believe on Him for salvation.

Hope this helps.. God bless you richly.

Dear Joan,

I think only a minority of Christians believe once saved, always saved, because the Bible doesn't support that idea. Most people would agree that Hitler probably won't be in heaven, despite going to church when young and possibly identifying as a Christian at one point. Judas was a Christian (a literal Christ follower) and betrayed Him in a huge way, and it's my personal belief that he is not saved. There's countless examples of Christians who unfortunately have turned their back on Jesus and started following the ways of the world or the devil himself. Jesus warned His followers to obey and fear God and avoid sin and obey. People today are making claims that you don't have to do anything at all. I believe God is a fair judge.

This doesn't mean we're saved by effort, it's grace. But Jesus clearly said if you love Him then obey. Christianity is an action requiring effort. Those who are genuine Christians following Christ will be saved, those who aren't are in danger of not being saved. I believe Bible backs this up very well. Plus, one can have assurance of salvation, but no one is actually saved until judgment day. So, people that claim they're saved, and can enjoy sin and doing evil 24/7 are mistaken. That idea only comes from satan. They will call out Lord, Lord and Jesus will not know him, just as the Bible says. Jesus said most people won't go to heaven- narrow is the way. Some accuse others of being legalistic, but they'd probably accuse Jesus of that too: John 14:15.

Just a few relevant verses...

Hebrews 10:26

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32.

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Jesus said not to judge in several places:

Luke 6 37

Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Romans 2:1 |

Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

Romans 14:13 |

Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

James 4:12 |

There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?

Hello Phillip, The Romans scripture may have been Paul trying to prove his point.

Carleton

CHRIST; v.9 = Why did Paul use the title "CHRIST" rather than HIS proper name JESUS, or even HIS royal title LORD in this identification? The answer lies in the soteriological usage of the DIVINE Title.

The title "CHRIST" translates from the Greek adjective root (transliterated "Christos"; pronounced "khris-TOS"), meaning "anointed".

The Old Testament Hebrew MESSIAH and the New Testament Greek CHRIST are synonymous, both identifying LORD JESUS CHRIST (cp. Jn. 1:41).

While the proper name "JESUS" identifies HIM as one of the Three DIVINE PERSONS of The GODHEAD, the title "CHRIST" designates JESUS as The MESSIAH within the TRIUNE GODHEAD. GOD appointed JESUS as HIS solely authorized CHRIST and sent HIS SON to perform the Work of Salvation, and to occupy the Office of the Church's HEAD, Chief CORNERSTONE, and Chief SHEPHERD.

Anointing someone means to apply a liquid or ointment on a surface and rubbing it in. For the literal application, compare how CHRIST restored the blind man's sight by anointing his eyes ( Jn. 9:6 & 11), or how James instructed the Church elders to anoint the sick with oil (Jam. 5:14).

CHRIST's anointing (cp. Lk. 4:18; Ac. 4:27; 10:38; Heb. 1:9) appointed HIM to HIS Offices as the DIVINE PROPHET, PRIEST, and KING much like the Old Testament symbolic act of anointing a man to the office of prophet ( 1Ki. 19:16), priest ( Lev. 8:12; Num. 3:3), or king ( 1Sam. 10:1; 15:1; 2Sam. 2:7).

GOD The FATHER anointed HIS SON JESUS CHRIST "with The HOLY GHOST and with Power" (Ac. 10:38), thus appointing HIM the Ultimate and Supreme

+ PROPHET ( Mt. 13:57; Mk. 6:4; Lu. 4:24; 13:33; Jn. 4:44; Ac. 3:20-23),

+ PRIEST ( Heb. 3:1; 5:5-6; 7:24), and

+ KING ( Mt. 2:2; 21:5; 27:11; Mk. 15:2; Lu. 23:3; Jn. 12:15; 1Tim. 6:15; Rev. 17:14; 19:16).

Furthermore, Paul declared that such prohibitions directly insulted GOD WHO considered all HIS creatures "good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is Sanctified by the Word of GOD and prayer" (vv. 4-5).

In summation, the Apostles including Apostle Paul, were in complete agreement over the reality that nothing was inherently unclean for dietary consumption. The only prohibition was consuming the animal's blood described in the expression, "we (the apostles) write unto them, that they abstain from things strangled, and from blood" (Ac. 15:20 & 29). Eating an animal killed by strangulation meant no blood was shed during the killing and the preparation process for eating which permitted the blood to coagulate within the blood vessels.

there is nothing unclean of itself; v.14 = The adjective "unclean" is the same word as "common" in Peter's protest to The LORD: "I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean" (Ac. 10:14). Review the full footnote under verse two.

Yet, Paul fully knew that believers came to their own conclusions based simply on their erroneous individual assumptions and personal preferences rather than on in-depth doctrinal comprehension and wisdom.

Paul may well have been familiar with The LORD's discourse with the scribes and Pharisees over the trivial matter of eating without first washing their hands before handling their food. To this criticism, The LORD replied they hypocritically adhered to false "commandments of men" and enforced them as "doctrines" ( Mt. 15:9).

Here ( Rom. 14:14), the adjective "unclean" describes anything Jewish converts to Christianity might deem ceremonially defiled, thus prohibiting its ceremonial use or consumption. This "uncleanness" included not only the unclean animals prohibited in the Mosaic Laws, but also any meat sold in the markets that idolators previously dedicated to pagan idol deities.

Paul, through DIVINE Inspiration, instructed Christian believers not to consider this meat unclean for dietary consumption. To avoid needless personal concern regarding the meat's prior history, Paul simply instructed, "Whatsoever is sold in the shambles {meat markets}, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake" ( 1Cor. 10:25).

Additionally, in the context of First Timothy Chapter Four (vv. 1-5), Paul condemned any false religion which enforced man-made commandments "to abstain from meats, which GOD hath created to be received with thanksgiving (v.3). Such prohibitions were based on demonic "seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils" (v.1).

Hello again Stewart,

I'm not quite understanding your post to me. Could you be so kind to clarify "2 men say there Jesus." Thanks. God bless you

spent 3 days on web looking at all different theory's,,, dozens of them. 2 men say there Jesus,,,1 of them must be wrong. the pool is poisoned,,,

Hey Stewart, Sorry for any confusion. If you study from Matthew 21-28, Mark 11-15 Luke 19-22 John12-13 This covers after Jesus rode into Jerusalem to when he was crucified. You can study and decide for yourself what day Jesus was crucified. Remember a Jewish day starts and ends at sundown. Here is a few verses may help. Read Luke 22:15-16 and John 18:28. One thought if Jesus was crucified on Wednesday the next day would be the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, that would be a holy day and they could have gone to the tomb on Friday.

The day Jesus was crucified is a discussion that should not cause division or confusion so, let the Spirit lead you and the scriptures interpret the scriptures for yourself, what we do is done unto the Lord.

God bless, Ron

To Stewart.

Take it slowly. It's not meant to be quick. Understanding is like that. Remember Adam and Eve in the garden? They lacked understanding. But after receiving the spirit of evil by eating the forbidden fruit, then understanding started to grow in them. God bless you

To talk about JESUS, is a transcending of all cultures and times. Jesus is not and cannot be only for one people or one race of people. His death on the altar of the cross is for chosen people of all nations and tongues of the whole world. This is the greatest LOVE of all. God bless you