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  • Vince - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    To Susan Hicks,

    Biblically the first SECOND in a day is considered a whole 24 hour. So even though Jesus was crucified and buried Friday evening, that's 24 hours, all day Friday. He laid in the tomb the whole day Saturday, "SABBATH." He rose from the grave early Sunday morning, a whole 24 hour. A day biblically is 24 hours. Hope you see. God bless you
  • Vince - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    The word "MIDST" is not the same as the word "MIDDLE." Midst means amongst and middle means middle. Back to the garden of Eden again. When God said to Adam, "the tree in the midst of the garden," God here is showing Adam that this tree in particular, amongst the other trees.

    So yes, Friday is amongst the days of the week. Not the first day nor the last day, those 2 days, Sunday and Saturday, have their special positions. Jesus rose early in the morning, not at sundown. Hope you see. God bless you
  • Vince - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Everyday starts by a second, then to a minute, then to a hour and so on. At that very second a day starts, it's considered an entire day according to the Bible. This is why God says to Adam, "in the day you eat," meaning the whole day. The very word day means 24 hours. God bless you
  • Darren Croft - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Ron,

    "the 6th trumpet the 2nd woe. If we read Revelation 11 and Revelation 12 it was the third woe the final woe"

    You misspoke. The 7th trumpet is the 3rd woe.

    I must say this is a defining moment. You almost had me...



    Revelation 12:12 will just have to wait a little season. Rev 12:12 will be given robes like their fellow servants.

    God Bless America
  • Stewart - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    That is confusing. I'm new.

    I and I's is logical.

    Thank you

    Bless you!
  • Susan Hicks - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    How do you possibly get 3 full days starting from Friday-Sunday? God grief Good Friday has got you sussed.

    fri/sat @morn

    sat/sun @morn

    sun/mon @morn = 3 full days or 72 hours

    How can that possibly be right, and how can you teach that. You are guessing!!!
  • I and I - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    The Israelites day ended at sundown. So, Monday at sundown became Tuesday morning about 6 pm.

    You have to take into account that Jesus was crucified before the "high sabbath" (feast of Unleavened bread), which was separate from the weekly sabbath (Friday at sundown through Saturday at sundown).

    JESUS WAS CRUCIFIED IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK = Wednesday ( Daniel 9:27).

    The Roman soldiers had to remove His dead body from the cross at sundown, Wednesday, by Jewish law.

    Jesus was resurrected Saturday at sundown, at the end of the weekly sabbath, beginning Sunday (Sunday is the 1st day of the week).

    Listen to this: "Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils." Mark 16:9
  • Charlene Cozart on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    How does the Bible liken us to Elijah
  • Ron - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Hi, Stewart, This is hard to show in a short post but here goes. Good Friday has been a tradition for many years. If we go back to the 1st Passover which this Passover should match the lamb was taken up on the 10th of Nisan and sacrificed on the 14th. We must keep in mind the Jewish day begins and ends at sundown. Jesus fulfilled the feast of Passover so, it was the same as the first. We see in John 12:1 Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead. The next day Jesus rode into Jerusalem. That would be 5 days until Passover that would be as called today Palm Sunday, Sun.10th of Nisan, the next day Mon.11th, Tue.12th, Wed.13th, Thur.14th of Nisan the Passover day. The next day is Fri the 15th the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread which is a holy day.

    Jesus said he would be in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights. Some say Fri, Sat, Sun. on the third day. Ok, first we know Jesus was crucified on Passover day but Passover day is also a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread because that is a holy day and no work could be done except to eat. John called it a high day. When the sun went down Wednesday13th it became Passover day the night of the Lord's Supper. In the garden, the betrayal, arrest, trial, and crucifixion all were done before the sun went down that started the 15th, the night they ate the Passover. Remember the days start and end at sundown.

    Fri.day15th=1day Sat. night16th=1night Sat. day16th =1day Sun, night17th =1night all equal 2 days and 2 nights Jesus rose before the sun came up.

    Thur. day=1day Fri. night=1night Fri.day=1day Sat night =1night=1night Sun night=1night Jesus rose befor the sun came up. All = 3 days and 3 nights.

    I hope this was not too confusing but if you read in Exodus the first Passover will help. Many think they ate the Passover meal on the 14th but it was eaten the night of the 15th, that is part of the confusion. Ron
  • Carleton - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Supported!
  • Sacha - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Thankyou Skip ,i really enjoyed reading your post on belief ,the unbelieving are not going to be in the best place or in the best company according to Revelation ch21 v 8 ,thanks again .
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Louis,

    Man's turning point from the beginning has been, "Do I believe God?"

    God gave Adam ONE commandment. Eve was deceived but Adam chose to rebel, which is the evidence of unbelief.

    The entire plot line of The Bible shows God pursuing man and man's responses.

    Able responds by believing God while Cain does not. Genesis 4:3-5

    Noah responds by believing God Genesis 6:22

    Abraham believes God Genesis 15:6

    ...

    And it all culminated in Jesus and is encapsulated in...

    "And they said, BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Act 16:31

    "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt BELIEVE in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man BELIEVETH unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." Rom 10:9-10

    "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have BELIEVED in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" 1Co 15:1-4

    Upon true saving BELIEF in God man's position with God changes. Before BELIEF he is an enemy of God. After true saving BELIEF in God he is at peace with God.

    "For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life." Rom 5:10

    "Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:" Rom 5:1

    "Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy, To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen." Jud 1:24-25 (KJVA)
  • Vince - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Friday,Saturday and rose Sunday morning. A evening and the next morning is a day according to the creation story. So Friday evening to Sunday morning is 3 days. God bless you
  • Vince - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Remember in the creation story where it says "the evening and the morning were the first day" and so on? Well this shows that a day here is evening and morning not sundown and sundown.

    Jesus die Friday evening and was placed in the tomb, that's one day. He laid in the tomb all day Saturday morning and evening, indicating the Sabbath which is absolutely no work; the second day. He rose from the grave Sunday morning, indicating the New Sabbath, the third day.

    Keep in mind the first second in a day is a complete 24 hour day, biblically. Also to keep in mind is a day to God is like 1000 years and 1000 years a day ( 2 Peter 3:8). Since Jesus was crucified over 2000 years ago, that means we are now in the third day of His resurrection which could be the time of His coming any moment now. God bless you
  • Cindy - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    He rose on the third day which was the first day of the week, Sunday.

    The day of His crucifixion has been debated between Wednesday and Friday before He rose on Sunday.
  • I and I - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, before the high sabbath

    Jesus died Wednesday at sundown and was removed from the cross because of the high sabbath

    Jesus was resurrected Saturday at sundown beginning the weekly sabbath.

    From Wednesday at sundown to Thursday at sundown = 1 day

    From Thursday at sundown to Friday at sundown = 2 days

    From Friday at sundown to Saturday at sundown = 3 days
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Stewart,

    "And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and THE THIRD DAY he shall rise again." Mat 20:19

    "For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise THE THIRD DAY."Mar 9:31

    "And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead THE THIRD DAY:" Luk 24:46

    "Him God raised up THE THIRD DAY, and shewed him openly;" Act 10:40

    "And that he was buried, and that he rose again THE THIRD DAY according to the scriptures:" 1Co 15:4

    Friday was the first day, Saturday, the second, Sunday the third.
  • Stewart on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    How many days did it from Jesus' death to his resurrection? Friday-Sunday?
  • Carleton - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Isaiah 35:10 touches the subject.

    And the ransomed of the Lord shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

    I believe this has come to pass in all born again souls.

    :)
  • Louis W Hill on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    I apologize for the misprint of my question.

    This is how it should read: What is the turning point of man's relationship with God?

    No opinions please. Biblical facts only. Specifically Chapter and Verse.

    Thank you!
  • Louis W Hill on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    What is the turning on man's relationship with God?
  • Carleton - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Keep the faith Jerry.
  • Jerry R - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Absolutely true, Carleton !
  • Jerry R - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Carleton.
  • Jerry R - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Carlton.
  • Jerry R - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Thank you for your views, Chris
  • Carleton - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Jesus Christ in the flesh literally fulfilled scripture.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    I like to think of the "first" day of the week like the day of circumcision, a day our hearts and lives are resurrected into a new life and a new walk with God in Jesus. Without question this is a rest for the weary.
  • Chris - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    Hi Jerry. My understanding about the Sabbath is that it was a commandment from God for the Jews to observe. There were stipulations in what they could do on that day & in Jesus' day, the religious leaders added their own rules to it, making what was supposed to be a Holy Day of Rest into a burdensome commandment.

    Even though many Christians believe in 'keeping the Sabbath', whether on a Saturday (Jewish) or a so-called 'Christian Sabbath', I don't accept either, as the Sabbath Day has nothing to do with Christian living. If a council has changed the Jewish Sabbath to a 'Christian Sabbath', then that is unbiblical. If we need to give a name to Christians worshipping together on a Sunday, then I would call it the "Lord's Day" ( Revelation 1:10), the day that believers set aside that was different to the Jews & in line with the Day of Resurrection ( Acts 20:7).
  • Jerry R - In Reply on Romans 14 - 3 years ago
    To: Chris - in reply to Romans 14, and Levi... I agree with both of you concerning Romans 14. Something that has been gnawing at my conscience for 35 years, is that I believe that Lord God was referring to Saturday as the Sabbath. I have read and heard that as far back as 336 AD, in the Council of Laodecia, is when the official Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday. It is not my intention to be disobedient to what is written in Romans 14; but I would like to see responses from both of you; and also Bob H. Thanks and God Bless y'all.


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