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Jesse Not disputing your reasoning but an atheist will never admit to the God and Father of our lord Jesus Christ there safe statement will always be some kind of Higher power, but in reality they are without our God because there God is Romans 1:21-23 they elevated human reasoning I.E. what they imagine God to be in their minds. In reality a true atheist will tell you they don't believe in any so called control power. Its not a trick questions but there are a few correct answers.

Hello Heidi,

Thank you for sharing this quote from Mike Allison. I am not sure who he is but I would like to just comment on what he is saying. I agree with him that there are billions who have not heard the salvation message. But I'm not sure if he's trying to put a guilt trip on believers because we are not out there trying to reach everyone with the gospel message? Maybe I'm just reading it wrong. I am all for evangelizing and reaching people with the gospel message, but only as the Lord leads us to do, not us doing it in our own human effort, which I don't believe the Lord blesses. ( Psalm 127:1).

What I'd like to share about those who have never heard the gospel of Jesus, is that in Romans 1:20, it says "For the invisible things of him (That is, of God), from the creation of the world (The time of creation up till now), the invisible things of God, and please notice the clarity, it says they are clearly seen. There's no confusion!

And there's a clause at the end of verse 20 that is an apposition to invisible things. Apposition means equal to. When it says for the invisible things of Him, I ask myself what does he mean by that? He says even his eternal power and Godhead. But then I see the conclusion that says that they are without excuse. Could "they" be the ones who have never heard the gospel message? I believe so.

The word excuse is the word APOLOGEA, where we get our word apologetics from. It is a legal term that means defense. So people have no defense whatsoever. What Romans 1:20 tells me is that not one single human being will stand before God and say "I didn't know!" Psalm 19:1-4 tells us that creation itself testifies to everyone born into this world that God exists.

I'm not against witnessing Christ. We should be praying for the Lord to lead us into those opportunities. But as far as reaching everyone, they've already been reached through creation that there is a God. And in the end, God has a plan to reach every single person on the earth!

HI Rebecca.

I agree with sister Dianne. Ephesians 2:8. For by grace are ye saved ( through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:)

I would like to add a verse or two.

1 John 2:2. And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation ""to every one that believeth;"" to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

I suggest getting an understanding of Romans 5:1-21. Romans 6:1-23.

and James 2:14-26.

God bless

Sir Here's a few Romans 1:24-28, Genesis 19: Story of sodom and Gomorrah, there's others if interested in Exodus and leviticus.

In reply to Adam's, "... I personally do not believe people go to the Lord upon death, but sleep until judgment day, based on scriptures I've read....." I wish to point out that Jesus Himself told us what happens to ALL people upon death, Luke 16:19-31 AND ESPECIALY the rich man's request to send Lazarus to his father's house to preach the Gospel BUT Abraham rebukes and responds that they would not believe a simple beggar EVEN THOUGH he knew the truth and died in it. Bible students believe the rich man was not named because the people at that time knew him before his death. Jesus would not speak these things if they were not true. He wants us to be content and with HOPE (not a wish but rather a firm belief) in death. If the rich man was able to identify Lazarus across v26: "... a great gulf fixed.." then I believe Lazarus was also able to identify friends and family on BOTH SIDES of the "gulf", ALL waiting for the final judgement, Revelation 20:11, "And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them." AND Revelation 20:15, "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." - this is the SECOND DEATH, it is eternal. For as long as we will be with Christ, so they will be with satan (his name is not worthy to qualify for the capitalization of the s). Amen.

The world cannot understand the distinction between "hating sin" and "hating sinners". I hate Roman Catholicism (because it leads their believers to hell) BUT I love Roman Catholics AS COMMANDED by God.

I consider it foundational doctrine for anyone from unbelievers to born again . God Bless Includes how to get Born Again Romans10 :9+10

I've been reading Romans lately and think it's dense with spiritual meat. It explains many topics believers often struggle with like works and faith. God bless!

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel

Matthew 1:23

"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3,

John 16: 7-15]

To REFUSE this knowledge, is to reject the Son of God, and his provision. Read all those scriptures before you decide. Jesus doesn't brainwash anybody. Ask His followers.

Mishael

Wesley's Notes for Joel 2:28

2:28 Afterward - After the return out of Babylon, after the various troubles and salvations by which these may know that I am the Lord. I will pour - In extraordinary gifts on the first preachers of the gospel, and in various graces to all believers. Upon all flesh - Before these gifts were confined to one particular nation; but now they shall be ENLARGED to all nations, and all that believe. Shall prophesy - This was in part fulfilled according to the letter in the first days of the gospel; BUT the promise means farther, by pouring out of the spirit on your sons and your DAUGHTERS, they shall have as full a knowledge of the mysteries of God's law, as prophets before time had. Shalt dream dreams - This also was literally fulfilled in the apostles days. But it may mean farther, the knowledge of God and his will, shall abound among all ranks, SEXES and AGES in the Messiah's days, and not only equal, but surpass all that formerly was by prophesy, dreams, or visions.

Mishael comment: (no offense intended). This prophesy is a call of God on people's lives. It's holy and should be treated thus so. It is not a license to behave unorderly in the House of God. You give your life and ministry to the Lord and He will make a way for you. There are no small beginnings, but we need to make some mistakes so the anointing of the Holy Spirit will fall upon The Word being taught or preached. He is your Teacher and "coach". See some examples first. I rather like Iverna Tompkins sermons on YouTube. She came to my church for some days. When the ANOINTING is from God, you can tell.

Lead some Bible studies; get some evangelism experience; all very useful. Study to show yourself approved...unto God! Prayer is your bedrock of strength. The Prayer Room on this website is great, to grow your prayer life.

Get closer to the Holy Spirit.'

Do we know what the abomination is?

Are women allowed to preach the word of god?

God is absolute, he means what he says and says what he means, along with his Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. I don't understand those who are unsaved, in the entertainment industry, government and everyday life, that think it is cool or hip to be no character having people. In Romans Chapter 1:28-32, it talks about how the unsaved person enjoys sinning and sin, and the last verse states how those who enjoy sin and sinning are deserving of death. In the Book of Psalm Chapter 34:16 it says: The face of the Lord are against those that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the EARTH! The Lord also says he's not willing that ANY should perish, but that all come to repentance! The Lord wants people to be born again, saved, sanctified, filled with the Holy Spirit, and all their sins washed away by the Blood of Jesus Christ, but we realize, that this not going to be so, for many, when they stop breathing! (St. Matthew 7:14), meaning, for many. This being said, i have a question, why is it that those who are unsaved, enjoy sinning against the Lord so much, by not having Character! Why do they enjoy breaking the laws of the land? to be accepted by their peers? Why do they insist on telling God, that it's hip or cool to be a sinning fool against him?. Showing that they have no character, and that they are dishonorable? It's not hip or cool to be a person of no character and sinful, enjoying doing wickedness and sinning in the earth! The entertainment industry promotes this, and many of them are MISERABLE behind the scenes in their lives! Because, the word of God does NOT return void! If you are going around as a sinner calling God a liar for ANY reason! telling him that it's hip or cool to sin against him and live a life of no character and dishonorably before him, you will truly give an account to God! and You WILL reap what you sow, NO MATTER WHAT!( Romans 14:12, Galatians 6:7, Psalm 34:16, Romans 1:32) Live right, see good, live sinful, see death!

Repent. You're on dangerous ground.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) performs the spoken word. Action.

God is spirit. The Holy Spirit is spirit.

Jesus is Son of Man.

Anything that is not Truth__is a LIE. We know who the Father of Lies is (Satan).

Lie is the name of a demon. Reading this is going to seriously disturb "it". If you tolerate its presence, it will let others come inside too. Matthew 12

You need to get on YouTube and watch THE AUTHORITY of the believer in Jesus Christ. All of them.

You need to say, The Blood of Jesus has made me whiter than snow. Isaiah 1:18.

Fight this. Rid your house of any contamination: books, alcoholic drink, pharmaceuticals, the Holy Spirit will show you.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

May I suggest you scribble those down on the back pages of your Bible? It comes up a lot.

There may be more...

Hello Dianne. One could ask your question in the opposite way: why didn't Paul admonish & discipline the NT Church for not obeying the 4th Commandment? I can't ever recall reading about that happening. I say this assuming you believe that the Church did worship on the First day of the Week; some Christians today believe that the NT Church still held onto a Sabbath worship.

Also, I could ask: do you see any reason between Jesus & the Jewish people observing the 4th Commandment as a day of rest & attending to religious duties, & then a sudden switch in worship times & styles, post crucifixion & resurrection?

And a further related question, seeing this is question about the Law: did not Paul himself write, in 2 Corinthians 3:6-11, concerning the New Testament (Covenant), that the Spirit of this Testament brought life to all unlike the Letter of the Law which only brought death? That was the purpose of the Law: to show the Jews God's Standards of behaviour & their inability to fully attain to it. Even though the Glory of the Law was tremendous, how much more is the Glory of the Spirit's Ministry. And that which was once glorious, God had chosen to do away with, so that the Glory of the New Covenant energized by the Life-giving Spirit, would excel in Glory. Here, Paul is showing the incompatibility between the Law which was given on tables of stone, to the Law of the Spirit, which is written upon the tables of our hearts; & specifically applied & written to believing Jews ( Hebrews 8:7-13).

Sadly, the Old Testament Law today is still called upon as a measure of one's obedience to the Lord. And sadder still, when that 'obedience' is used against other Christians who choose to observe the 1st Day of the Week as their day of worship (& maybe rest). Let us not judge one another, but that "every man be persuaded (convinced, believing) in his own mind".

You are so correct in why there arent stands made against the meek behavior in this sinful behavior but, I am believing that Jesus died for all kinds of folks and the purpose of holding our tongues or judgment, Jesus also with God hoping they will find the love He has for them? Jesus suffered so we might love and hate the sinner....if we hate the sinner then how can we love and witness to them? Jesus said to the disciples in so many words, go get all kinds and I will do the sorting later. Amen !

Did Paul give permission to Greeks and all Gentiles to worship on Sunday first day of the week, as the Sabbath? If not, then why do preaching Pastors on Sunday preach its ok to break the 4th Commandment?....Jesus worshipped on the Sabbath sundown/Saturday

Ty for your honesty.

Hello Debra. Here's a few for you to look up, both commands & illustrations against deviant behaviour:

Genesis 19:1-8

Leviticus 18:22

Leviticus 20:13

Deuteronomy 23:17

Judges 19:16-25

Romans 1:24-27

1 Corinthians 6:9,10

1 Timothy 1:9,10

Jude 7

Hi Hendrica.

Romans 1:18-20 (KJV) For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

God bless

The times now were probably not much different when Paul preached to the Romans. Also he is clear when suggesting we should not judge these who are living in this apostacy! He comes out against it while at the same time we should concern ourselves with believers in the church! Growing in the knowledge of Christ, converting both Jews and gentiles. I am looking for his judgment at any moment! While satan is teaching hate in our schools harming the children, I pray for his judgment on man!

I am very disappointed that Christians simply cannot report the Lord is speaking of homosexuality in Romans chapter I. Many homosexuals need plain truth, and not a Christian Community whom skirt around this terrible abomination! Many of these people will never change his/her sexual behavior. However, should PLAIN Truth convert, and save one person from eternal hell plain truth is worth the back lash!!

I truly enjoy reading God's Word and having the Commentary view really enlightened some of the verses in the Scripture.

Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, AS WITH womankind: it is abomination.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 - Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (Read More...)

Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, AS he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:26-28 - For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the NATURAL USE into that which is against nature: (Read More...)

1 Timothy 1:10 - For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

Mark 10:6-9 - But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. (Read More...)

Jude 1:7 - Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

1 Corinthians 7:2 - Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

1 Timothy 1:10-11 - For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; (Read More...)

Romans 1:27 - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 1:32 - Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Hi Roy,

As all the replies in this thread are good. I came across this today. Enjoy. Philippians 1:21-23.

God Bless.

Hello, I've heard that repeated a lot, but the Bible doesn't say that.

Paul said he would "rather" be absent from the body and with the Lord. It doesn't say in 100% of all cases, every time, that when someone is not alive that they are with the Lord. Big difference. I personally do not believe people go to the Lord upon death, but sleep until judgment day, based on scriptures I've read. God bless...

2 Corinthians 5:8

Were in the bible does it say "absent from the body present with the Lord"

Dgjot,

I agree with what you are saying.

Although witnessing Christ to others is a good thing, no one should put a heavy burden on us to do so. There are some who even say that Jesus would have come back by now if we believers were out there "doing our jobs."

It should never be about putting a guilt trip on a believer to get out and do their job so that everyone will be reached.

Besides, John 1:9 tells us that the whole world has already been reached.

The word, the Logos, enlightens every person coming into the world. Every single human being born into this earthly life will be enlightened by God to the truth.



There will not be one person that will stand before God that will ever say "Hey I didn't know anything about it." Here is why. I'll give you three scriptures.



Psalm 19:1-4 says that creation, the language of creation goes throughout the world. There is no language that does not understand the language of creation. And creation speaks of the Creator.



So much so that in Romans 1:19-20, the apostle Paul even says that what is known of God is clearly manifest as God reveals the truth of the invisible God to every person.

Romans 10:18 is a verse people will use to motivate Christians to help support missionary work around the world. Unfortunately some stop at Verse 17 when it says faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.

"So we have got to get the word of God out there and reach those people."

Except in Verse 18 Paul says, but I say have they not heard? Yes they have. Their sound went out into all the earth and their words unto the ends of the world.

So it's not up to us to reach everyone. In the book of Revelation, we are told of God's plan to reach every single person.

There will be the two witnesses, an angel will be flying around in mid-heaven for 3-1/2 years warning everyone.

And there will also be 144,000 Jews who will be evangelizing and reaching the list. So God has it pretty much covered!

Hi Sonja.

Leviticus 18:22.

Leviticus 20:13.

1 Corinthians 6:9. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor ( EFFEMINATE, )nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

To begin with, it came into the world as a form of punishment.

Romans 1:19-28. Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Sonja stay with it using scripture and pray often without ceasing,

Study scripture with him often and stay close to him.

Please stay in touch and God bless.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

You CANNOT cancel out these scriptures with Exodus 20:3

Nor the New Commandments that Jesus delivered to us.

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.