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  • Duncan - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Yes, we are living in what is written in the book of Matthew 24 and the book of Romans 1:23.

    As Jesus said No one knows the day nor the hour. So keep watch by reading and walking with God day and night.

    Please read both Books and let the peace of God and our lord Jesus Christ be with you Amen.

    Matthew 24:36

    "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Christina, James 4:7 says, "Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." How do you resist the devil? Like Jesus did when he was tempted in the wilderness. He did not argue, He quoted the scripture, and the devil fled each temptation.

    The Word of God is our armor against Satan, our bullets, I like to call it.

    Shoot as many as you need at him when he tempts you with unnatural relations. I give you Romans 1:26,27, 1 Corinthians 6:9, and Jude 1:7. Prayers going up.

    Bless you!
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thanks 'Prosperity'. To answer your three questions:

    a. Romans 9:3-5. Paul says what he did in this portion because he was speaking about his brethren by blood, i.e. Israel - not brethren by faith in Christ. Here in these chapters, Paul is relating what the Jews should have gained, if they had accepted Christ, but had lost their position because they wanted to hold to the Law & not come to Christ (which can only be by faith). So the Roman believers, & there could have been believing Jews amongst them as well, needed to hear this message that salvation has come to them because of the "fall" of the Jews & acceptance by God of Jew & Gentile through His Son.

    b. Romans was written to believers in Rome ( Romans 1:6-8); the Corinthian Epistles to the Church/saints at Corinth ( 1 Corinthians 1:2); Ephesians to the saints in Ephesus ( Ephesians 1:1); and the Thessalonian Epistles to the Church in Thessalonica ( 1 Thessalonians 1:2-4). So, in the Churches there would have been the Jewish diaspora as well as Gentiles, and together Paul considered them as the Church, the beloved of God.

    c. I see no problem with the content of Paul's letters to the largely Gentile Churches there. It's as if I preached in a Pakistani Church of what God was doing in Pakistan among Muslims, also about believers living the Spirit-filled life, & the need to share their faith, & also that my heart continued to be for the salvation of Muslims. Would I be wrong to share that so that the Church might be informed & encouraged to pray? So Paul was sharing with the Roman Church that one day all Israel will bend their knee to Jesus & be saved. Shouldn't the Gentiles rejoice in this wonderful time of salvation of the Jews, through whom the Lord Jesus came & ministered to? But if any today in the Church despise Israel, then maybe, yes, they could take umbrage to such news.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    It is true that the Roman Epistle was directed primarily to believing Gentiles, but when we read the whole letter, we see that Paul wanted to bring out the doctrine of Justification by Faith and its ramifications - and this he did in a systematic manner unlike his other epistles. And if one is to properly handle such an important doctrine, then one would have to appeal to where it all began: with God's chosen people, Israel.

    The Law was given to them ("the law of righteousness", as Paul calls it in Romans 9:31), but they failed to apprehend it "because they sought it not by faith" (v32). But the Gentiles on the other hand, "attained to righteousness" (v30), not having been given the Law, because they attained it by faith.

    Had Israel found righteousness by faith (i.e. through Christ, Who ultimately was their "stumbling stone" (v33)), maybe much of what Paul wrote in Romans chapters 9 to 11, would need not be shared with the Roman believers. But what Paul did share, serves to show how Israel, who was in such a privileged blessed position, lost it; and their loss was the gain of the Gentiles. The Roman believers can now better appreciate the Gospel brought to them & the salvation received through Christ, when they know that "through their (the Jews) fall, salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy" ( Romans 11:11). To a Church that neither Paul nor Peter founded, this was an important history & spiritual lesson to the believers: why the Gospel had to be brought 'first to the Jew & then to the Greek' ( Romans 1:16), and that it is by faith alone we all stand (Jew & Gentile) & not by the "works of the law" ( Romans 9:32). From this brief explanation, I hope you can appreciate Paul's need to share this part of Jewish spiritual history in his discourse with the gentiles.
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 7 - 2 years ago
    Hi Estelle, the trinity (or Godhead) is mentioned in verses like 1 John 5:7.

    The Godhead is mentioned in verses like Romans 1:20.

    The KJV doesn't have the word trinity, but "Godhead" and uses 'we' and 'us' plural in places even though God is one. Galatians 3:20

    Some unfortunately use this as a weapon to attack who God is, so its worth noting that the word Bible isn't in the Bible either, but that doesn't mean it isn't one. The KJV doesn't have the word demons, but that doesn't mean there's no demons. It doesn't have "labor", "encouragement", "suicide", "anxiety", "honor", but they are still real and true subjects discussed within. So for any onlookers with questionable motives in their heart, this busts one of the most common strawman arguments dishonestly made against God.

    God bless.
  • Joshua - In Reply on Romans 1 - 2 years ago
    Revelation 2:5

    5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

    James 4:8

    8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

    Revelation 3:3

    3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

    Acts 3:19

    "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;"
  • Anonymous - In Reply on Romans 1 - 2 years ago
    Matthew 6:9-10

    Betty:

    You want your prayer to always be answer:

    Matthew 6:9 After this manner always pray ye:

    Matthew 6:10 ....THY WILL BE DONE....

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Colossians 2:27 ...this mystery .....Christ in you ....

    1 Corinthians 12:27 ....ye are the BODY OF CHRIST .....

    John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come (the life of Christ in you), he will guide you into all truth .....

    God Bless you, the body or life and truth.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Romans 1 - 2 years ago
    That is refreshing in a way. There are obvious guidelines; such as the book of James elaborates on (not praying to gratify the flesh and not being double minded). A large part of communication with the Holy Spirit involves us trusting God for all things whatever the apparent outcome; which in the short term frequently is not seen clearly. We also heed to the scripture in Hebrews about Christ being the High Priest ever interceding for us. In other words; He perfects the communication so that it is a clear presentation to God; which of course would involve His understanding of the perfect will for those good works prepared for us from before the foundation of the world. Normally; I would share the scriptures themselves but I am afraid with all the tabs on my computer I'll wipe out this page should I look them up now.....

    As important as it is to be God honoring; as well as us meditating on the scriptures day and night so that we can formulate thoughts and learn to know the ways of God so we are mindful of His will for our lives; it isn't good to be too restrained either; as to content or time frames for organized corporate prayer. A good principle is to look to the needs of others before ourselves; and that is largely through discernment and not being overly obsessed with our own family; friends and lives. It also involves finding those who are walking Godly lives as resources and AVOIDING those who are tampering with false doctrines or have a lifestyle of sin in terms of the same. We don't want someone invoking an evil spirit to our favor.

    It is good to be ready in season and out for not only evangelism but being available for prayer. People have different giftings; and it shouldn't be a pride thing; but sadly most have no idea when they are endowed with say; and unusual unction of faith.

    And sometimes prayers are answered either right away; or much later suddenly this occurs. We need to ever heed the Spirit in all we say and do.

    Hope that helps.
  • Betty Greenlee on Romans 1 - 2 years ago
    I am not a person who knows a lot about how to pray...How do I pray?
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Jacqui,

    I agree with you that this forum is an open forum for people to express their beliefs. It is also a forum for discussion which Giannis and Adam, myself and you are doing when we reply to a post.

    I believe like Giannis and Adam in this way:

    In Scripture the word "Godhead" is used 3 times: Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, and Colossians 2:9.

    The Greek words, Theoion, Theoites, and Theotis are used for this word. It means ALL that constitutes Who and What God is. So the what denotes His nature or essence (GK. ouisa) and the Who denotes the three distinct persons within the one Godhead where all three possess the same Divine Essence totally (100%) and equally so (no degree of difference between three of how much of this essence they each possess. They all three possess this essence completely, to the fullest sense, and eternally.

    Jacqui, this is classic Christian teaching within the Christian church for 2000 years. You can go to site like: Got Questions, Compelling Truth and others to understand what God's essence is and how He can be one God, yet three persons, but not three Gods with divine essence.

    I believe what has been classically taught in the church from Scripture that God is purely Spirit. He is not made of matter in His essence. He created all matter. Jesus, in His human nature is made of matter, but before He became man, He was always Spirit like the Father and the Holy Spirit. He still possesses this Godhood (essence) but also still possesses his humanity, too.

    To continue, God, not being made of any matter, does not have parts or components like all creatures have. We have physical parts (hands, body) made of matter, and soul parts (mind, emotions) and a spiritual part. Animals also have components to their essential nature. Take away absolutely life sustaining parts and we and animals cease to exist. Angels also, though spirits, have a component nature. They have spiritual bodies but also, minds, and wills, like us. ...continued
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Romans 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Annette.

    Romans 1:18. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against ALL UNGODLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

    This verse applies to everyone who has not accepted Christ.

    ( the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against ALL UNGODLINESS AND UNRIGHTEOUSNESS OF MEN, who hold the truth in unrighteousness)

    Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

    Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

    AND SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

    1 Corinthians 6:9-11.

    No one will make it to heaven off their own righteousness.

    It is the righteousness of Christ imputed unto us is what declares us spotless.

    Yes we minister to everyone.

    God bless.
  • Adam - In Reply on Romans 1 - 2 years ago
    People accused Jesus of going to eat dinner at the house of a "tax collector." Luke 19:1-10. Jesus spent time with an "adulteress" John 4. He spent much of His ministry around "sinners." We're all sinners.

    But yes, there are verses supporting avoiding people and avoiding trouble. Jesus fled to avoid being arrested/beaten, before it was His time. He left people to be alone to pray. He said He wasn't respected in His own town with His own family. It says this about not being welcomed: Luke 9:5. It says avoid foolish arguments Titus 3:9-11 and avoid divisive people or heretics. It says this specifically about Christians ( Matthew 18:16-17) when confronting about an issue like sin. So it seems the answer is it depends.

    Found this page too which might have more verses: Link God bless.
  • Annette on Romans 1 - 2 years ago
    Are we not to have anything to do with those people or share the gospel because they receive the wrath of God and if you communicate with them does it mean you approve of who they are.
  • Russell cobb on Romans 1 - 2 years ago
    what would be the best bible chapter or book when you have been in a back sliden condition for a while i need some help plz.
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on Romans 1 - 2 years ago
    I find this scripture so empowering God is able to sustain and strengthen His children in Any waiting for a job after one years unemployment I m a drive my eyes are on you Jesus Christ name
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on Romans 1 - 2 years ago
    Yea my rein's shall rejoice When they lips speak right thing Let not thin heart envy sinners But be thou in the fear of the Lord all the day long for surely there is an end and thine expectation shell not be cut off
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    You can check out the following Scriptures, Dave: Leviticus 18:22 (& verse 23: bestiality); Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:26,27; 1 Corinthians 6:9; 1 Timothy 1:10; Jude 1:7.
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 14 - 2 years ago
    This Psalm is focusing on those who would be what we call today "atheists." They are said here to do terrible things; as well as go after God's people. Verses 1 and 3 remind us that there is no one who does good. We see this sort of behavior in the end of dispensations of time when "judgment comes to the full" starting in Genesis 15:16; and it continues to the transgressions of Babylon at the end of the 70 years of captivity as well as the time in Revelation in the example of a few instances.

    Lest we entertain the tought that this state is only for those who deny that God exists; we surely have to realize the admonitions in 2 Thessalonians 2:10 about those who did not receive the LOVE of the truth. Ultimately; as Romans 1 and Psalm 19 indicate there is enough evidence in Creation that men are without excuse; also including evidence of the godhead ( Romans 1:20). We are reminded that because God does not execute judgment right away men get complacent in Ecclesiastes 8:11.

    We are reminded here in verse 6 of the treatment of the poor of Proverbs 21:20 where "a fool and his money are soon parted." Some; thankfully will repent when humbled enough; sadly others not as Revelation makes all too clear. The last verse once again looks forward to the salvation of the nation of Israel; related to the last days return of His people. Israel for now is far nationally from repentance; and it won't fully repent and come to the true Messiah until the Lord is returning ( Zechariah 12:12 and surrounding verses). Let us all test our hearts to make sure that we are worthy to escape all the things that are to come to pass and to stand before the Son of Man ( Luke 21:36 see also Rev. 3:10).
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 12 - 2 years ago
    We are reminded of James once again in regard to the tongue and how dangerous it can be. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways ( James 1:8

    There are also prophetic overtones once again; such as the character of the Antichrist in Dan. 11:32. We also see in the first verse that godly and faithful man fails and ceases. That reminds us of what happens when the restrainer is removed in 2 Thess. 2:6. Verse 4 seems to show a world thinking that they are without leadership (small lord). The verse about silver tried in a furnace of earth; purified seven times reminds us of the seven year Tribulation as well as the concept in Leviticus 26:18 for God's people.

    Verse 7 shows preservation from this (possibly the last) generation. That could indicate a deliverance FROM the wicked; or THROUGH the Tribulation when the wicked reach their apex.

    God knows how to preserve His children as we see the concept in 2 Peter 2:9 (also translated dtemptations) also it is clearer in Romans 1:16-17 where we are kept from the "wrath to come." Verse 5 reminds us that as Christ said "the poor will always be among you." ( Matt. 26:11). It appears that children will be restored according to Isaiah 49:25 as well as literal releasing of prisoners in Isaiah 51:14; although other verses can be applied to Christ freeing us from the prison of sin such as Isaiah 61:1-2 quoted by Christ.

    These verses could have been penned by David with some of his own personal situation on his mind at least; but these broad promises certainly go beyond just being applied to David's situation as the Spirit inspired these passages in Psalms as in all scipture.
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Kay, Romans 1:20. The existence of God's creation means there is a creator. This says we are without excuse. All we have to do is open our eyes. If there's an intelligent creation then there's an intelligent creator.

    We are incredibly complex human beings with very advanced features we don't yet even fully comprehend ourselves. Explosions from nothing don't create life. Explosions to life can't be replicated, and no one has ever witnessed it, so evolution theory is unscientific.

    All life is advanced and is designed to adapt. Naturally some use that as confirmation bias to draw conclusions for what they want to believe (to deny God), but there are no transition species between animal kinds. People have lied about this in the past in order to justify what they want to be true. DNA is a complex language we haven't even figured out and has the blueprint of each being in every cell. It heals itself and does amazing things. To believe all this happened from an accidental explosion violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. So, the theory of evolution violates science. Also, most people ignore the fact that evolution would have simultaneously required plants and animals to evolve at the same time coincidentally making food for us and symbiotic dependency, and "evolving" in male and female pairs. Scientific impossibility, but fun speculation for many based on bias and wishful thinking. We, and everything around us reflects an intelligent creator, God.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Romans 1:18-32,
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Terri I will pray for Robert and Lilly.

    Dear Heavenly Father, We lift up Robert before Your throne tonight and ask that You do the work of salvation within Him by Your Holy Spirit and the true preaching of the Gospel, Father, no one can come to salvation unless You draw them to You through Jesus. So, we ask that You draw Robert to be reconciled to You. I pray the same for my sons Brian, Robert, and Kevin.

    Father, we lift up Lilly before Your throne and ask that You deliver her from drug abuse. We ask that You draw her to You also and bring your salvation to her through Your Spirit and the Gospel of Jesus. Help Terri to know how to follow the promptings of your Spirit to witness to these she loves and deliver to them the Gospel of Your Son, Jesus, Who is our Savior. Help Terri to believe that the Gospel preached is empowered by the holy Spirit to bring on to faith in Jesus and His work of salvation for us. ( Romans 1:16). Give both Terry and I the courage to speak the Truth of Jesus in the Gospel message to our loved ones. Create the opportunities for us to do so, Father, for we know You love them as You love us and desire for them to be saved. We ask all this in the name of Jesus. Thank You Father, for Your answers to these our prayers. We leave them with You tonight and trust You. Amen.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Delmarie,

    This is an interesting question. Most people believe that there is an 'age of accountability for children and disabled people who do not have the mental capacity to deeply understand their need for a Savior. But they are still sinful persons and in need of salvation. Thankfully, Jesus' sacrifice on the cross covered the sins of all mankind. The sins of young children and disabled person are already paid for. Should they die before they can understand how to be saved, most people would say that in God's mercy and grace, they will be saved. God is in control of their lives. He knows their limitations and since these are either developmental and/or from some sort of brain damage, He allowed it to be so. He loves these people. Jesus said not to keep the children from coming to Him when He was ministering to crowds and the children pressed forward to be close to Him. He said "Such are the kingdom of God" due to their simple faith. Marl 10:14-15. Here Jesus is saying that the children who came to Him are saved. So, we can be confident that when we share Jesus and His Gospel with a little child or disabled person, He will save them due to the inherent power in the Gospel message ( Romans 1:16).

    I think that we should definitely take every opportunity we can to share Jesus with children, disabled persons, mentally ill persons or anyone else who is impaired from fully understanding the way of salvation. There is saving power in the Gospel. The Holy Spirit uses it to create faith within the one who hears it or reads it. We can be assured that He will do so in these young ones and others mentioned.

    As to what happens to children or disabled people who do not hear the Gospel, I can't really say for sure as I am not aware of what the Bible says about this. Maybe someone else will have better knowledge about this to share.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Psalms 10 - 2 years ago
    Dear Angela,

    I hope that you will know our Lord Jesus Christ more and more with each new day He give you to live in this life. It is Jesus Who leads us to the Father, and the Holy Spirit Who leads us to Jesus, and the Gospel of Jesus Christ that activates the working of salvation in one's life. Not Mary, not any saint, nor any other means. Jesus is the ONLY Mediator between the Father and us ( 1 Timothy 2:5. Jesus is our ONLY Savior ( Hosea 13:4; Isaiah 43:11) Mary attested to this in Luke 1:47 in the Magnificat.

    Romans 10:8-12 says that if we confess with our mouths that Jesus is Lord and believe in our hearts that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. And in Romans 1:16 Paul say that he is not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes.

    Angela, you do not need to appeal to Mary or anyone else but Jesus for salvation and all of your spiritual needs. He is our all in all. Mary was a humble woman. She was eager to agree to being the mother of our Savior. God chose her. She is special for that. But she is not involved in saving us in any way. God could have chosen another woman to conceive our Savior. But there can be no other as our Savior but Jesus. I think Mary was a godly example for all of us. She no doubt was meek and did not wish to bring glory to herself. She knew her role and standing before God. She did not seek more than being an obedient servant of God. She would not wish to have all of the (misguided) adulation given to her. She knows that all of the glory, honor, and praise is reserved strictly for our Triune God. He alone is God and worthy of our worship. Turning to Mary for help is like turning to any other pagan idol, as the Israelites did with the golden calf or the cakes baked to the "Queen of Heaven" (Ishtar), or the Asherah poles to the idol similar to Ishtar.

    Angela, much of what the Catholic Church teaches about Mary go back to very ancient times after the flood.....
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on Romans 1:16 - 2 years ago
    In Jesus name a prayer Amen
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Cort. I would encourage you to read Romans 1:18-32: a long portion but which the Apostle Paul gives a selection of sins that people commit, sins if unrepented of, are deserving of God's Anger & Punishment.

    And particularly to your question, verses 26 & 27 can be read. Here, we read of how some men & women have distorted the expression of love & God-appointed male & female behaviors to that which was never in God's Design for us. Homosexual relationships are unnatural, sinful, angers God & deserving of His Anger.

    But, as with all sins that we commit, there is forgiveness when we repent of our sins before God & turn away from engaging in them. The Bible tells us that when we confess our sins, the sins that has led us off the path that God has set for us, God will accept our sorrow & will forgive us. And this He does because Jesus gave His Life for us to pay for our sins ( 1 John 1:9). Since God accepted Jesus' Sacrifice as payment on our behalf, we can be confident that our sins will be forgiven, even to those who have led unnatural lifestyles & engaged in unnatural relationships.

    God never wants to send anyone to hell ( 2 Peter 3:9), so He is patient waiting for all sinners to come to Him in sorrow, to be made new by Him, & to be received into His family. Yes, even homosexuals who truly turn to the Lord can be changed, given new hearts & minds to serve the Lord in purity & holiness of life.
  • Henry - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Cort. Whoever it is if they don't change their lifestyle and come to God and

    Repent and confess Romans 10:9+10 and believe in their heart and do God's

    Word it isn't going to be a glorious eternity. Sodom and Gomorrah was a clue

    And so is Romans 1:21-28 and a few other places there's the truth. Also nobody

    And I mean no body is born homosexual male or female! God Bless I pray they

    Change their hearts and get softer ones. God is waiting with open arms to heal!
  • Ronnette on 1 Corinthians 4 - 2 years ago
    To the saints on this site:

    1 Corinthians 4:5 speaks volume to us since saints understand the mysteries revealed to the faithful and Romans 1:6 & Romans 8:28. For saints know Isaiah 5:20. We are where we are today. God is so great to allow us to do things in life in our own free will where in the end The Glory belongs to God. God allowed me to have worked with great scientists in America with great heart. I do not need to understand and question everything at the spare of the moment. I just know the paths God lead me in was not to question authorities in the land. God has the heavenly plans and those are what I am and every saint must be very excited about. When you walk in the Spirit of God, you are like in a trance. Next thing you know someone tells you on earth job well done. Not to boast but again and again to Glorify God because He helped you to do job well done. I can control only me and hopefully have a strong influence with my family and friends and anybody that touches my life to follow God as I walk the walk and talk the talk. Even 1 Timothy 5:4 saints take it to heart. All is good with God James 1:17 and all are Your's 1 Corinthians 3:21-23. I know It is easy said and done here on earth. We all have afflictions and to some unbearable 2 Corinthians 6:4. I thank God for the blood of Jesus Christ for that power is in everyone who put his trust, faith and believe in that He will never leaves you. Psalms 91 memorize!

    The Spirit speaks to you 1 Peter 3:13, 3 John 1:11. Be in Spirit so you can 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 1 Thessalonians 5:15. Philippians 2:13 and Ephesians 1:9. Saints, Ephesians 4:29

    There are more heavenly things I can share but I like to inspire you with this testimony Colossians 1:27. Let us all grow in true Charity 1 Corinthians 13:4-8, the bond of perfectness Colossians 3:14. In conclusion 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18. Happy Sunday with the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace to ALL.
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 15 - 2 years ago
    Revelation 15

    This chapter marks what appears to be the Resurrection of the saints of God from the Tribulation which is immediately before the bowl judgments. In that sense surely God's people won't endure the final plagues. This is accentuated by the comment in verse 8; that no man could enter the temple in heaven until the final plagues occurred. There was no more "smoke of the incense of the prayers" mitigating things; and judgment was to be full force.

    It is interesting in verse 5 that the "temple of the tabernacle of the testimony" is mentioned. Certainly; those who gave the testimony to overcome reminds us of Revelation 12:11. We must remember that overcoming any of these things; whether it is the image of the beast (which somehow causes people to be killed ( Rev. 13:15); the mark of the beast and the associated number of his name all takes supernatural strength. Again; we need to remember that ALL whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world will worship the Beast ( Rev. 13:8). This shows the destinies of men from before all time were all predestined as WELL as showing Christ was the sacrificial atonement for that group of people ALSO before time began. By default; this means not only are we all sinners and rebels but that literally we would worship Antichrist if he appeared today; and in our hearts Satan is our father ( John 8:44).

    These harsh realities are the only rational approach to show how far sin has damaged this nation and the earth as a whole. Today; much of what involves the lust of the eyes ( 1 John 2:15-17) is virtual reality; minds are controlled with substances (Pharmakeia Rev. 18:23) and people desperately want assurance that life can continue and the party can go on. The danger is when the Lord Himself gives up people to sin ( Romans 1:24). Truly; Isaiah 24:17 describes the fear; pit and snare upon the inhabitants of the earth after He raptures the Bride.
  • Luke - 2 years ago
    Apostate: One who has abandoned one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause.

    Amos 5:15 Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.

    Psalms 97:10 Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.

    Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is visibly unveiled from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth with unrighteousness [wrongdoing];

    The Fly Away Doctrine is evil, read Ezekiel 13:20


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