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3 For thou preventest him with the blessings of goodness: thou settest a crown of pure gold on his head. Re: Verse 3, David, like all of us, was on the path to Hell but the goodness of God prevented that Romans 2:4

I was watching a tv evangelist on tv a few days ago, and he said 90 pct of Christians have never seen or taken notice of this verse, (and I thought to myself "not me"). then, when I checked the verse Rom 2 vs 16, lo and behold I had never seen that verse before in my life to the best of my knowledge, and yet I have read the whole book cover to cover 24 times and the book of Romans so much more.

Romans 2:7-8 "eternal life"=entering God's Kingdom. "Indignation and wrath"=eternal damnation=burning in hell.
Proverbs 9:18"But he knows not that the dead are there and that her guests are in the depths of hell:" Proverbs 15:11, 15:24, 27:20, Psalms 55:15, Matthew 23:33, Luke 10:15, Revelations 1:18, etc, etc. Looks like Gods' theology !!!! Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Amen

James 1:22 "But be doers of the word, not hearers only, lest you deceive yourselves."

For there is no respect of man with God.

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter whose praise is not of men, but of God. Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, but thou art rich and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Psalms 145:20 The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Romans 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life but the wrath of God abideth on him. Romans 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

I like the book of Romans

Bo is correct, praise God! Man's hell is the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience which will soon include world-wide angst, horrors and painful deaths never experienced before. Pray you escape this wrath!! Eternal hell fire is man-made theology tradition inspired by Satan. Wisdom of Solomon 11:26 But thou sparest all: for they are thine, O Lord, thou lover of souls. Luke 2:23 As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord Thank You LORD for Your Lovingkindness, for Your Mercy!

Nolan, God doesn't send people to hell. He created hell for satan and his angels (demons) Satan knows that God loves us and knows that God gave us free will. So he tempts us and tries to make us choose death over life. Hell over heaven. God gave Christ as a way out of hell...because 1 single sin is a choice to go to hell....until we become saved.

God doesn't become happy with our outside look. No one is righteous than the other. God wants the soul and cleanse it, read Read Romans 8:8

This scripture to me, means, it doesn't matter who you are, whether you be rich or poor, President or farmer, doesn't matter to him. We are all equal to him as people. We will all answer for how we lived our lives. One person is same as next, I believe he only sees our souls. I dont think he looks on our outside, I believe all he sees is our souls, and our souls are obedient or unobedience. That's just what I believe.

Nolan, Verse 11- "For there is no respect of persons with God." The context is verses 9 10. The "respect of persons" being referred to is in relation to Jews and Gentiles. Paul is writing this letter for to Jews, and is essentially telling them, "God's judgement v9 , or God's glory v10 , will be handed out to Gentiles and Jews alike- with no favoritism one way or the other." He's saying, "Don't think you'll be treated with less judgement or more grace just because you're a Jew." See Rom 1:8- "all ungodliness" The bible is clear that all men are in need of a savior.

It is a food that nurished the soul men of good will

2:16 Interesting verse that many passover without stopping to think about "my " gospel. Paul 's writings are unique to the church which is the Body of Christ. It 's of the utmost importance that we thank God for this hidden Truth. A Truth seldom taught and seldom heard.

That the only way u can get to heaven is by pauls gospell acording to verse 16

I believe that the last verse concludes the chapter we as men have to humble our selves and give God the glory and honor he is writing to the Romans who seeked power and persecuted the Jews he is giving them a humbling message to change there judgement from there own and look through the eyes of the lord Jesus christ

From my study of this verse i gather that glory and honour to everyone who seek to do "good works ", but all throughout the scriptures it is evident that glory and honour could be ours through our Lord Jesus Christ.

ROM 2-27...The physical circumcision has no purpose today, only the spiritual circumcision of the Heart is meaningful. AMEN!

In this and all references to circumcision in the New Testament St. Paul seems to mean that if a man has ever sinned--and we 're all told by ministers and priests and rabbis?! that each of us has "in Adam 's Fall, we sinned all " . Therefore, a circumcised man may as well not be circumcised in the first place. He has had broken his covenant with God. Whether or not one appears circumcised physically, how one thinks is what counts. Romans 2:25 and Galatians 5:2-3 in particular reiterate this. Thus circumcision is a medical operation that 's often a superfluous waste of time.

ROM 2-9...J.G 's, just want to make a correction in something you said in a comment posted 2 4 15, going off Acts 20:7...you said they had communion with unleavened bread, if you put the word bread into the Greek Lexicon it will always come up azumos or unleavened bread, but that 's not the case in this particular scripture it says they come together to "break bread " now if you look this up using the same Greek Lexicon you see klao 2806 something entirely different, they basically just came together to EAT dinner and listen to Paul preach, NOTHING signifying a holiness about the day, a day of rest, a memorial, a Sabbath, the fact is you are a follower of pagan rome, following after the commandments of man, and not the Commandments of GOD, you think you are saved and are filled with the Holy Spirit but you are wrong again, GOD 's Spirit will not dwell in a vessel of disobedience, by rejecting GOD 's 7th day Sabbath you are rejecting GOD Himself, just like the Israelites did in the wilderness, and they perished in their unbelief. AMEN!!

I believe God, who was, is, and is to come, who was dead, but yet alive, our almighty God our right now God, who lives, breathes, moves, inside all nations of people, no matter what condition their mind is in He, God has no respector persons. He love,an has mercy on the just, and the unjust amen. I believe in our living God,Jesus Christ our Saviour, amen!

ROM 2-5...That 's fine, you have chosen your path, it is flawed, and devoid of any truth, I am not trying to convert you, remember you were first to remark on my comment about the Sabbath, intruding into my space! GOD will judge the world, not me, so if you desire to twist God 's word, and follow after the LIE! the roman catholic church has promulgated for centuries, that 's your business. But as far as Africa is concerned their equally those that journey distances to observe the 7th day also, those obedient to the Commandments of GOD PRAISE OF GOD OF HEAVEN AND TRUTH AND PRAISE HIS HOLY SON AMEN!!

Christians everywhere worship Jesus Christ on Sunday, Savior, King, and friend who sits at the right if God the Father. Christians don 't worship the day of Sunday but it seems like you are making Saturday an idol, RNM. The Sabbath was for the Jews, alone. We were made to glorify God not a day. We do need to set aside that day for primarily worship. These days in the world, you see many businesses open on Sunday. Why? For money. Where is their faith? In Mark 2:27, Jesus says the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. You are making the sabbath a god. That is wrong. It is cultish. Acts 20:7,When the disciples worshipped on the first day of the week, they had communion with unleavened bread, from the greek word azumos. Not apros, necessary food as you suggest.

RNM, Yes, in Acts Paul went into the synagogue on the Sabbath to preach the Gospel. The Lord 's Day is Sunday. And yes, the Bible talks about Christians gathering on the Lord 's Day for worship and communion. They did it every Sunday. There are a lot of people that are not enchanted but are devoted to Christ. Some believers in Africa walk miles and miles to worship our Lord and Savior Jesus without complaint to meet with other believers on Sunday. God smiles and blesses them. Yes, we all have to work out our salvation with fear and trembling but we also are commanded to rejoice evermore and pray without ceasing! Praise God!

ROM 2-3...There is no commandment from God or His Son that has in effect changed the Sabbath, if so I would be following also, Acts 20 highlights the communion of the disciples at evening meal while Paul preached, which was his custom to do every day, but focuses on the power of the Holy Spirit in Paul, by bringing life back into the fellow that fell to his death, nothing more. I 'm sure a drunk driving down the road feels happy and secure to! But being led by emotion and not the truth is not of GOD. All the first century followers of Christ up until A.D.45-50 were totally Jewish, a little closer attention to the scriptures is proof of that. And as far as the Sabbath not being mentioned, in Acts 16, 17, and 18, it was common knowledge, it wasn t 't changed, just modified. Sunday observers are caught up in a sorcerer s enchantment of sorts demonic at its core, originating from Simon the Sorcerer, which is mentioned in Acts chapter 8, but historically founding the Roman Catholic Church that changed the Sabbath from the 7th to the 1st day, because it is in following Mithraism and the worship of the Sun. We all half to work out our own Salvation with trembling and fear, but I would rather side with GOD and His Son, and the Truth. AMEN!! "

Christians in the first century started out worshipping on Sunday. Acts 20:7. Jews practiced the Sabbath. I will follow the example set by the early Christians, not the Jews. Thanks and God bless you RNM. Another important part of worship that no one talks about is instrumental worship. Musical instruments were brought into worship in the 600 's. Many church leaders said it was wrong but it was done anyway. Luther spoke out against it. People did it anyway. I know God wants worshipped in spirit and truth. I feel happy and secure worshipping God on Sunday. The apostles were filled with the Holy Ghost. They would have spoke up in Acts about the 7 the day. They did not because Sunday was the Lord 's Day and The Day to worship.

ROM 2-31...Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest:...The whole of the reformation collapsed over this one key point the 7th day Sabbath, they got everything else right but that. Just like in todays world, the protestant church has it mostly right, except for that one key point, the 7th day Sabbath, I am not obsesses with this day, but I feel that it is a "grey " area. Even though I am convinced of it, the New Testament is filled with scriptures expounding the seriousness of being Obedient to GOD by keeping the Commandments, therefore it is for us to keep the 4th Commandment the 7th day, Holy to GOD, aside from all the rules that was nailed to HIS cross .. and to continue on with the truth of the scriptures in Malachi 3:6--I am the LORD, I change not. or Hebrews 13:8--Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, and today, and for ever. SO, what you are saying, GOD does change, and HE is a liar, according to your beliefs. I JOHN 2:4 HE THAT SAITH, I KNOW HIM, AND KEEPETH NOT HIS COMMMANDMENTS, IS A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.... I do not go, belong, am affiliated, or have been indoctrinated into any church, just for the record! I know their are others like me, but its a small following:... MATT 7:14-Becuase strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Like I said Years ago, break out of the fog of delusion, repent, and worship GOD in truth. GOD IS IN COMMAND, PRAISE HIM, AMEN!!

When Constantine issued an edict in the fourth century for Christians to worship on Sunday, they had already been doing it for 300 years. The very first Christians worshipped on the Lord 's Day, Sunday. There are stories throughout the 2 millinieums of forced baptisms, persecutions, etc. It does not take away from the fact that the early Christians worshipped on Sunday. The purpose of the original 7th day worship was for the Jews to remember when God brought them out of Egypt certainly not for Christians today. Heaven forbid. Unless, you are Jewish of course.