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There are multiple ways to prove God exists. Our own human conscience proves that God exists. It is our human nature to know what is right and what is wrong. Even if we don't know God, or don't believe God, it is God in our conscience within each of us to reason right from wrong. How would we know right from wrong if not?

Here is Paul explaining this in scripture:

Romans 2:14-15

For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;

God Bless.

Larry For the wages or payment for sin broken fellowship is death, but the walk bu the spirit is life and peace

matter what, and there is no respect of persons Romans 2:6-11y

Hi Alex; After reading what you wrote I agree that there is a spiritual Israel, the Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 2:29 all Christians are circumcised in their hearts and are Jews, meaning all people regardless of color or nationality, male or female, we are now the heirs of the promises of Abraham. Galatians 3:29 However, I do not agree that God has or ever will have a grandson, The Holy Ghost is God in the doctrine of the godhead Colossians 2:9 and all Christians are his children, not his grand children.

I am Amazed! The amount of conversation on this web site that focuses on hell and condemnation and what will happen if you don't believe is remarkably opposite of what attracted me to God. I am reminded of Romans 2:3+4

especially 4 where it is the GOODNESS OF GOD that leads you to repentance which is a change of heart towards the

one that did the good. I'm aware the Jesus taught about the consequences of unbelief but that was NOT all He talked

or preached about. He taught of how God is a loving , forgiving, tender merciful, all knowing, graceful, and full of

peace and life giving. He didn't dwell on the stuff of the enemy, when I've had the privilege of sharing Gods Word

most of these lost already are in hell [figuratively speaking in their minds the darkness of unbelief] then you love

them into the truth. 2 Corinthians 4:1-6 remember we plant and water in Love and God gives the increase also

judge not for thou shalt be judged. I know some one now that BELIEVES if she makes a false move GOD WILL PUNISH

HER and that's a lie, and she's born again! How can you reach out to others when your in a state of mental terror

thinking any little error you'll be judged for that's torment not freedom in Christ. That's what others taught her

is the way it is, somebodies got to be wrong and it isn't my Loving Father and that's the GOOD NEWS of FREEDOM

BY JESUS CHRIST! First announcement of angels to Shepherds regarding His birth PEACE ON EARTH GOOD WILL

TOWARDS MEN THIS IS GODS WILL. Last 1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men saved and to come to a knowledge

of the truth. The word will is Thelema primary objective or desire! The enemies desire is the opposite he doesn't

need help.

PROMISED ISRAEL

In the Old Testament a gentile could become an Israelite by being circumcised in the flesh.

TODAY a gentile becomes an Israelite by being circumcised in the heart.

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly: and circumcision is of the heart, in the spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but God.

Dear GiGi again. In Jesus Name i have experienced the opposite of what you say, for all eight years.

If we follow The free will we have, and live in it, is from the dark ones. But its thru He have give us a free will and we NEED to pray " i dont want my free will " take it away dear Jesus! Those ppl who will follow Him need too crucify the flesh. And keep theyr tongue tied, and thoughts as well. We are on our way, and Learning from Him the Holy Spirit.

Ill promised God I would read the scriptures for as long as I lived, and ill see many hidden meaning in Scripture today. But then That was a real pray after God Fathers hearth! :D And the day come when He open up the Scripture for me. The words was like fire and the letters moved around for a sec or two.

And no flesh can be saved without Him

John 15:5

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Soo those time i go and tell somthing like heavenly to other ppl, they fall short because they do not understand.

And in that it comes arguing and all kinds of evil. Soo when ill sheer something here in web site. I do understand that some ppl can speculate and may not believe it is true. But i promise u its thru all of it.

Romans 2:

4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first,

and further :p In Jesus Name

Part III God's Great GRACE Departure

B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming continued

The Second 'prophesied' Coming

Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From Things That DIFFER

God's PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly 'Mystery!'

1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!

CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From Heaven! Ephesians 1:19-23 Colossians 1:18 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel, And With The Trump of God! 1 Thessalonians 4:16

3) JESUS CHRIST, Who Is God, Will Bring With Him, those "asleep In JESUS," who Were With Him In Heaven! 2 Corinthians 5:6,8 Philippians 1:21,23 1 Thessalonians 4:13,14

4) CHRIST Descends With One archangel, Will resurrect those asleep (in 3) First, and Then, we "which are alive and remain (which Is A Mystery)," will be changed/all "incorruptible, And Caught Up together (rapture) to meet The LORD in the air (Not all the way to the earth), in the twinkling of an eye!" 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 1 Corinthians 15:52-53

5) CHRIST "Gathers His Body To HIMSELF, to Take them To Heaven" (Opposite of earth)... 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 1 Corinthians 15:49 2 Corinthians 12:2 2 Corinthians 5:1,2 Ephesians 1:3,20 Ephesians 2:6 Philippians 3:20 2 Timothy 4:18

6) ...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body, By The Head Himself!... Romans 2:6,16 Romans 14:10-12 1 Corinthians 3:6-11 1 Corinthians 3:12-15, 1 Corinthians 4:5, 1 Corinthians 6:20 2 Corinthians 5:10 Ephesians 6:8 Colossians 3:24-25

to be continued in:

Part IV God's PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure!

Your Freedom Your Will Your Choice

The one thing that attracted me years ago to the word was the Love of God shown by Jesus Christ, and in

Romans 2:4 second half its the goodness of God that leadeth thee to repentance[ a change of mind leading to a change

of heart]. According to 1 Timothy 2:2 Gods will is to have all men saved to be saved and to come to the knowledge of

the truth. In John 3:16 which is familiar to most if not all of us, God so loved the world that he gave[it was his will to

save his creation includes all men] his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have

everlasting life. 17 he that believeth on him is not condemned, but he that believeth not is condemned already.

The reason is stated next because they loved there own deeds or works which were wrong being blinded by Pride

greed lust literally loved themselves at the expense many times of others lives that's evil. So don't tell me I'm

doing anything wrong I've got everything I want so why should I change. They loved there deeds and are blinded by

2 Corinthians 4:4 the god of this world still what you sew is what you reap and they are without excuse. 1 John 2:15+16

can dim the Glow of Gods light in us if we allow it also be not quick to condemn

or judge, we at one time were there. We plant and water in Love but Father gives the increase. Jesus Christ spent a lot more time teaching principles of our Fathers love and

walking with God than the end result of unbelief because Gods desire is to have no one join or taken down by

His Arch enemy. Weare indeed the preservers or the Salt until we are gathered together. Just some heart

Earl,

Sorry, it took me a while to study your posts. Scripture is clear; the lake of fire is real and it was prepared for Satan and his angels, Matthew 25:41. Those whose name is not in the book of life will be cast into this lake of fire, the second death, this is the death the saints will be spared. According to scripture we all will be judged and our reward will be given, good or bad according to our works Revelation 22:12. Each of us will have different rewards, some lights will be brighter than others, Daniel 12:2-3 and whether in the lake of fire, the punishments may be also judged accordingly.

My understanding is we do not get a second chance for salvation after this life in this flesh, Hebrews 9:27. We have this, there are evil and good people that live and have lived and those who did not have a chance to hear of the word of God, this may show how they will be judged at the white throne judgment, Romans 2:12-15 (this is my understanding of this), but those who have heard and rejected it, Katy bar the door.

I must humbly disagree, I am not in the lake of fire, we will be judged with fire, 1 Corinthians 3:11-15. The Bible has symbolic wording but represents real things, people, kingdoms, etc. I am sorry I can't follow interpreting the scriptures by allegorizing all, I feel we turn all scripture into parables.

RLW

Hello GiGi, What I meant was that there is only one gospel that can save mankind today, and that is the gospel of grace ( Acts 20:24 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4 That Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again the third day. Appropriated by faith alone apart from the Mosaic law ( Romans 3:20,21) The gospel of grace and doctrines for the body of Christ, the Church, was a secret ( Romans 16:25, Ephesians 3: 1-11) hidden in the mind of God until revealed to the apostle Paul. In other words, between the time God called Abraham and the calling of the apostle Paul, there was no message of salvation to the Gentile world ( Ephesians 2:11,12). The gospel of grace is most clearly defined in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 " Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures: And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. Paul's Gospel: The apostle Paul Holy Spirit inspired of course, repeatedly referred to the gospel of grace as "my gospel"( Romans 2:16, 16:25 Galatians 2:2,7: 2 Timothy 2:8) Paul could say this because the gospel of grace was in fact revealed to Paul alone and he was chosen by the ascended and risen Lord Himself to be the apostle of the Gentiles( Acts 9:15, Romans 11:13) These new revelations came approximately10 years after Pentecost ( Galatians 1:1,11-12;17) All mankind during the age of grace will be judged according to Paul's gospel. " In the day that God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel" Romans 2:16 Paul warned mankind twice in Galatians, anyone that preached any other gospel then what was revealed to him by the ascended Lord Himself will be cursed " Please read Galatians 1: 8-9 KJV

DALE E STAHLBERG,

From the first Adam, all have sinned Romans 5:12. Even without the law we have sinned, there are people in this world that do much evil and there are people in this world that do much good and neither have never seen a bible or heard of Jesus. From the first Adam, not only death was passed, every person is born with the knowledge of good and evil, it is written in our conscience. With or without the knowledge of the law, one may choose to either do evil or do good.

We see in Romans 2:12-15, read the entire chapter. Jesus first came almost 2000 years ago, the Messiah for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then by the grace of God, the gospel of Jesus was given to all the other nations. Millions of people lived and died before He first came, are they doomed to eternal death? Millions since have never heard of Him, are they doomed?

What we should contemplate, will we that have heard the gospel of Jesus be held to a higher standard of judgment? We see when Jesus sent the disciples out to tell people the kingdom of heaven is at hand, what it would be like if they rejected it. Matthew 10:14-15.

Many see the great white throne judgment is only for the lost, but in my understanding, scripture does not support that. We have Daniel 12:2 John 5:28-29 Matthew 25:31-46, and more, and the parables. After the one thousand years, Revelation 20:11-15. All the rest of the dead small and great, raised from the dead, they will be judged out of the books and one of these books is the book of life, and whoever was not found in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. Would the book of life be needed if all were lost? God is a just God and we can trust in His word.

This is my understanding, may others have another view.

God bless,

RLW

The two marks defining the people of God (Israel) were Circumcision & giving of the Law. No other people or nation received those directives from God ( Genesis 17:10,11; Leviticus 26:46). In regards to the Law, they were to learn God's requirements for a familial relationship to Him, to their society, & in their personal lives. For circumcision, they were to be marked out in a way distinct from any other (different from any body markings, cuttings or disfigurement of the heathen, even if there was an accidental loss of an organ or an appendage). And of course, the Apostle Paul spoke of this in Romans 2:25-29, connecting the two directives together - that one couldn't be without the other to the Jew - and since the Law couldn't be kept perfectly, true circumcision then must be of the heart & not of the flesh to count before God. I wonder whether what was given as a Mark of distinction & also for hygiene purposes, was also to alert the Jew that this seemingly unnatural act (of circumcision) was to point him to what the apostle now learned as a believer.

And this practise of circumcision continued, not only within Judaism, but also Islam. Yet as much as Islamists (Arabs) might have their heritage back to Seth, yet "in Isaac shall thy seed be called" ( Genesis 21:12 & Romans 9:6-8). And this rejection of Ishmael by God will always keep those adherents at odds with the "seed of Isaac", & will most likely figure in those awful days of devastation that lie ahead.

Brother Adam, maybe our definition of FREE WILL differ. FREE would dictate that; that WILL, would have no CAUSE making it occur other than yourself.

Man makes CHOICES thousands or time a day; but those CHOICES have a CAUSE:

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh in you TO WILL and TO DO ....

They is never an effect without there first being a CAUSE.

God is sovereign and the CAUSE of everything.

Romans 2:4 Man repents be CAUSE of the goodness of God

Philippians 1:29 You BELIEVE be CAUSE Christ CAUSES you to believe.

Galatians 1:20 You have faith be CAUSE Christ GIVES you HIS faith.

John 6:44 No one comes to Christ with a CAUSE, the Father draws that person to Christ.

God CAUSES and DOES everything, man is the benefactor of CAUSES of GOD.

Colossians 1:17 ...and by him all thing consist.... even you CHOICES.

John 15:5 ...you can of yourself DO NOTHING...

and his name was blashmd through all the gentiles this makes me think of every time man cusses and says GD. and when i started this i notice how hard it was to say JESUS name around certain ppl and how ppl could not even say his name or read the bible with out getting sleepy. you see we are real close to going back to the days when man takes all the glory for his self and the idols they have made they worshipp and kill the dollar bill they kill and steal and make up sick twisted cults that mock and slander the son they use fear to control humans these ppl use the same tools as the devil to control the world thats why i say we living in the days and we need to be brave and bold to let these ppl know hey i see what you doing i know the devise you have to control the ppl of faiths mind and this is a abomination of man i see and i lay my life down for the truth to up root evil in this wicked world that isnt supposed to be wicked but good no pain no suffer god bless you all.

Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

John 14:26

Hello, if we have no free will, what is the purpose of evangelism? If we have no free will what is the purpose of the gospel? If we have no free will, what is the purpose of following Jesus? Did you have freewill to write your question or did something force you to? Did it force you onto this website and are you a prisoner? When you brush your teeth is a force making you do that?

That's an interesting concept that we have no freewill, but it just seems to fall apart quickly with pure logic. Adam and Eve were given an choice and disobeyed God and received a punishment. Today we are given choices of whether to do good or evil and then are judged after this life according to what we have done. Romans 2:6. If there was no free will, why would anyone be judged?

I believe a movement in our society is against Christianity and they like to claim that we're only clumps of cells and that morality is only relative and that we have no choice when we do wrong. It just seems like a lazy way to rationalize committing sin and defying God. The word says to fear God who can send you to hell. Matthew 10:28. Obviously, if there was zero free will or choice then we wouldn't be continually warned to obey, avoid sin, follow Jesus. No freewill would mean everything is a charade and is meaningless. Obviously that idea is a lie and we do have freewill. I choose to respond vs not respond to this question out of my own freewill and hope to help others and help spread truth to replace lies. God bless...

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"God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided," Lets God "Say It":

Part III

The Second 'prophesied' Coming

Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That DIFFER:

The PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure, According to TheHeavenly'Mystery!':

(1) Immediately After GRACE Has ENDED/ZERO signs!:

CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From Heaven! ( Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17)

(2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel, And With The Trump of God! ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16)

3) God (JESUS CHRIST) Will BringWithHim {those who Were With Him In Heaven},partOf His Own, those who are "asleep In JESUS!" ( 2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13)

(4) CHRIST Descends WithOnearchangel, Will resurrect those asleep{in 3)}First, and Then, we "which are alive and remain," {which Is A Mystery!}, will be changed/all "incorruptible, And Caught Up" together to meet The LORD in the air {NOT "all the way to the earth!"}, in the "twinkling of an eye!" ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:52-53)

(5) CHRIST "Gathers His Body" To HIMSELF, to Take them To Heaven {OPPOSITE of earth}... ( 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1, 2; Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18)

6)...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body, By The Head Himself!... ( Romans 2:6, 16, 14:10-12; 1 Corinthians 3:7-15, 4:5, 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10; Ephesians 6:8; Colossians 3:24-25)

to be continued in:

Part IV God's PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure!

Righteous Judgment

** John 7:24 **

Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

2 Thessalonians 1:5

Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:

Romans 2:5

But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

1 John 3:7

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

Ezekiel 3:21

Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

Matthew 10:41

He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

Matthew 23:28

Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

John 5:22

For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:

Once I got busted by Jesus for judging. We were street ministering; and all the Catholics would drive by the Catholic Church, tip their beers and holler out the priests names. honk the horn at us :/

The Holy Spirit leaned on me and said quietly but no nonsense..DO NOT JUDGE !

All you can do is fall down and say YESSIR!!!

Part II (Previous) Gospel of the kingdom

Rightly Divided From ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

Gospel Of The GRACE Of God =

Gospel of the Uncircumcision ( Galatians 2:7; Galatians 6:15; Romans 4:9-11)

Preached first by Paul, then his companions ( Acts 13:38-39; Acts 20:24; Acts 16:31; Romans 3:24)

The Mystery Program for The Gentiles ( Ephesians 3:1-3; Colossians 1:25-27; Romans 16:25)

The preaching of The Cross as Good News ( 1 Corinthians 1:18; 1 Corinthians 2:2; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4)

Gospel to be believed = Christ's Work ( Romans 5:6 Romans 5:8 Romans 5:10; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

Salvation By GRACE Through faith plus nothing ( Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 4:5; Titus 3:5)

Justification by faith without works emphasized ( Romans 3:28; Romans 4:5,16; Galatians 2:16)

Repentance as a synonym for faith ( Acts 17:30; Acts 20:21; Acts 26:20; Romans 2:4)

Involves reconciliation to God and man ( Romans 5:10-11; Romans 11:15; 2 Corinthians 5:18-20; Ephesians 2:16; Colossians 1:21)

Covers Paul's letters Romans - Philemon (Also Acts 9-28)

Not under the law ( Romans 5:20-21; Romans 6:14; Galatians 5:6)

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IMKane, hope this was helpful answering your Great questions.

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!

The Sinners Prayer Whatever you do don't sit and confess all your sin A. because you can't remember them all and B. not needed. Repent and say forgive me then Romans 10:8 -11 Confess with thy mouth action thats necessary and believe in thine heart innermost part of your being or for the sake of explanation your gut. that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth and believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved [absolute tense] God doesn't mess around. verse 10 For with the heart[ again innermost part of your being] man believeth unto righteousness and with the mouth confessing is made unto salvation. or wholeness also look at Romans 2:4 2nd half its the Goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance.

Jaden Confess Romans 10:8-13 but specifically verses 9+10 if you tried to confess all your sins, a. we don't have memory banks that good and b. in Romans 2: 4 its the goodness of God that leadeth to repentance. Prayerfully that answersyour question. god BlesG

Hi Donna I'm going to endeavor to answer this question which is a challenging one. First sin is broken fellowship with God that is the position all mankind is born in. Ephesians 2:1 we are born body and soul no spiritual connection period. Man still has free will thats where he has a choice John 3: 16-20 Gods word is the only true explanation for life the way God meant it to work. No matter if a man believes or not he will still be Judged by his deeds Romans 2:1-16. The only way to get out of the state of sin is believing Romans 10: 9+10. Man is driven by the deeds of the flesh the five senses which is sin until he receives Jesus Christ as lord and Saviour and receives holy spirit and renews His mind to the word his body is captive to the flesh which works against Gods Word 1 John 2:16. So man has free will and some love sin more than God knowingly. Prayer fully this helped God Bless

Amen and Amen, Brother Alex:

The TRUE Israel was ALWAYS the Israel that would be CREATED by the death and resurrection of Christ.

Everything in the OLD; ONLY, pointed to the NEW.

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh (Old Israel):

Romans 2:29 But HE IS A JEW (New Israel), which is one inwardly; and circumcision is of the heart, IN THE SPIRIT, and not in the letter (flesh); whose praise is not of men but of God.

When you are BORN AGAIN, you are no longer a gentile, but a TRUE JEW.

The true house of Israel and temple of God are his SAINTS, his OFFSPRING, his INHERITANCE, his POSSESSIONS, bought and PAID FOR.

Psalms 2:8 Ask of me (my Son), and I (the Father) shall GIVE THEE (my Son) the heathen for thine INHERITANCE, and the uttermost parts for the earth for a POSSESSION.

Psalms 2:9 And thou (my Son) shall break them with a rod of iron; and thou (my Son) shall dash them in pieces as a potter's vessel.

We are the pot and he is the potter.

Christ WILL keep breaking you, UNTIL; you AGREE with him.

Matthew 5:25 AGREE with you adversary (God the Father) quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him (while you are ALIVE); lest at any time the adversary (God the Father) deliver you to the judge (Christ), and the judge (Christ) deliver you to the officer (Death), and thou be cast into prison (the Grave).

The wages of SIN (UNBELIEF) is DEATH. BELIEVING is LIFE.

Oseas I have yet to see a reply from you that's all positive and shares scripture like Phil. 4:8, James 3:17, Galatians 5:20, I'm very aware of our enemies tactics and our spiritual warfare, I choose not to give Him any more attention than He's already got besides people need to Hear more about the love of God in Christ. Remember Romans 2:4 its the goodness of God that leadeth to repentance, Jesus Christ taught and displayed Gods Love and light, that was the attraction, not if you don't believe this your toast. Something to consider. He loved the unlovable, I at one time was in that category. By His Grace I've been spared. God Bless

Sister Dianne, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS grace.

God CANNOT be SOVEREIGN and man have FREE WILL, it's impossible. Man would be able to CHANGE what God predestinated.

There have been billions of people that have been born and died, if man has free will why didn't at least one free will himself to NOT SIN.

Man makes hundreds of choices every day, but ever choice you make has a CAUSE and that cause is God:

Ephesians 1:11 In whom we also have obtained an inheritance, being PREDESTINATED according to the PURPOSE OF HIM who worketh ALL THINGS after the counsel of HIS WILL.

Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD that WORKETH IN YOU both to WILL and DO of his good pleasure.

You are born again by the word of God.

This is part of being born again: you AGREE with God; that you do nothing of yourself, all is OF GOD, he shares his glory with NO ONE.

He causes you to believe, He causes you to understand that it is his faith not yours, He causes you to repent, He causes you to LOVE.

Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only to BELIEVE ON HIM, but to also suffer for his sake;

Philippians 3:9 And being found in HIM, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the FAITH OF CHRIST, the righteousness which is OF GOD by faith.

Romans 2:4 ....Not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my spirit WITHIN YOU, and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statutes, and ye shall KEEP my judgements, ans DO THEM.

NO FREE WILL in those scriptures.

Living IN CHRIST becomes quite simple when you are born of TRUTH.

TO: Dianne on Psalms 51

I know God is forgiving, and I joyfully accept His forgiveness. My weakness comes in my inability to forgive myself. The world is constantly reminding me of my wrongdoing. Sadly, the world to which I'm referring is within the church.

Most true children of God has a hard time forgiving themselves, but we must Mark 11:26

(But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.) This scripture is talking about forgiving everyone including ourselves because Romans 2:11 (For there is no respect of persons with God.) I know exactly what you are talking about when you mention the church world, but remember there is no church world with God; ONLY the world and the church! The church starts in you, you are the temple of the living God if you have been Born Again and

1 John 4:4

(Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.) Praying for you

Sissy, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

You will get two schools of thought on what happens to us at the death of our body of flesh.

I DON'T BELIEVE in a general rapture of the church; I BELIEVE we are gathered ONE BY ONE.

Isaiah 27:12

Matthew 24:40

I BELIEVE each believer is given HIS REWARD at the death of our body of flesh.

Our REWARD is ETERNAL LIFE and a BODY LIKE CHRIST. We become the IMAGE of Christ.

Colossians 1:15

Colossians 3:10

Romans 8:29

Every believer will receive the SAME REWARD; but different GLORIES.

Matthew 20:1-16

Romans 2:11

1 Corinthians 15:41

I BELIEVE when we leave our bodies of flesh we begin ruling and judging with Christ in the Kingdom of God.

Revelation 20:4

Obadiah 1:21

GBU

Quote: "The Law and the Prophets

The 2 witnesses (against us and for us) has always been:

The LAW and the PROPHETS. GOD'S WORD."

GOD's Word is not only "The LAW and the PROPHETS". But above of the Dispensation of the Law and Prophets - Old Testament - GOD established the New Testament through JESUS Christ bringing salvation for the lost Jews under the Law and Prophets and for the Gentiles without Law. Romans 2:v.14

Peter the Apostle wrote in his universal epistle: 1 Pe.1:v.3 to12

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:

7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the APPEARING of Jesus Christ:

8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see Him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:

9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

10 Of which SALVATION THE PROPHETS have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

11 Searching what, or what manner of time THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WHICH WAS IN THEM did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the GOSPEL unto you with the Holy SPIRIT sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.