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And yes, Paul did drift into sarcasm as he questioned their wisdom in receiving these false teachers ("suffering (allowing) fools"). They were more prepared to be brought into bondage again, being taken advantage of, even being slapped (v 20), rather than give credit to Paul, to his apostleship & his teachings amonst them. The Corinthian Church was easily led astray, not strong on the doctrines & teachings given to them. If a strong popular figure should arise, they would be easily inclined to give them audience. Paul's letters to them reveal much of his heartache for them.
Romans 3:24-25 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are PAST, through the forbearance of God;
Romans 6:1-2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
God Bless.
Don't let me get in between your conversation which is great. Which we all do to help one another. Just to put my feelings about the couple things being discussed about the Sabbath day and the law.
I wanted to write this a while back as now is my time to post this. We who follow Christ should strive to keep every day Holy not just one day of the week.
About the law I see it as the Ten Commandments are a good guide for us to follow. As none of them are grievous to follow and are all good. Even going through the 613 Mitzvot laws numerous times most are good moral things to follow. Of coarse we are past trying to follow every single one as we are under the New Covenant and Jesus Christ came for us. Things like sacrificing animals, dietary laws(which some may still like to follow), stoning people, etc.
As stated by someone else when Jesus Christ was asked "the greatest commandment". Him giving the two commandments to hang all the law and the prophets. Surrounding true love for God and one another. If we follow true love with a pure heart this truly will guide us down the straight and narrow path to truly want to do what pleases God and others around us. Producing good fruit in the Spirit. 1 Corinthians 13.
Just a couple scriptures I like about the law thing. Romans 3:31, 1 Timothy 8-10.
God Bless you my brothers and sisters in Christ. Have a wonderful day!
Acts 2:37-38 KJV., what Israel(Jews) must do. Acts 10:44:48 KJV., the Holy Spirit(Ghost) given to the Gentiles(Greeks). In verse. 8, Peter commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord(Jesus Christ). Jews and Gentiles were baptized by water in the name of the Lord(Jesus Christ). Acts 15:5-9 KJV., question at issue(Gentiles being circumcised). In Verse 7 Peter is speaking Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. In Acts 2 Peter used the keys(Jesus gave him the keys in Matthew 16:19 KJV.) first for the Jews, and in Acts 10 second, in the house of Cornelius for the Gentiles)(but Paul was distinctively(plainly) the apostle of the Gentiles, Gal. 2:7,8).
Paul speaking( 1Corinthians 15:1-10). Not only being filled with the Holy Ghost, Saul/Paul was baptized with water in the name of the Lord(Jesus Christ).
Saul's/Paul's Conversion: Acts 9:17-19 KJV; Paul's Defense before the multitude: recounts his conversion. Acts 22:11-16; Paul's defense before Agrippa. Acts 26:9-18. In verse. 18, that they may receive forgiveness of sins( Romans 3:23)
1 Corinthians 3:5-8 KJV: 5. Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6. I(Paul) have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase(Holy Ghost) 7. So then neither is he that planteth anything, neither he that watereth, but God that giveth the increase(Holy Ghost). 8. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labor.
1 Timothy 1:1 KJV Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope. Think about this, what is the father's name on a Birth Certificate? What name is the child born into physically? See 1John5:1-20
KJV., being baptized in the name of (Jesus Christ): The Foundation
Dear readers, I have heard lots of sermons that teach that one must repent to be saved. I believe this is a false doctrine because NOWHERE in the whole Bible does anyone teach it. All the Scriptures teach is just believing:-
But what does the Bible actually teach about salvation and about repentance? Here are a few verses:-
John 1:7
The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 6:29
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Acts 15:11
But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Acts 16:31
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Romans 3:22
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
REPENTANCE IS: TO turn from what you were doing wrong to doing it right. Its actually more of a turning. And repentance does not necessarily mean "repent from your sins". In fact in the Scriptures, God repented more than anyone else. Does that mean He is a sinner? NO!! He turned from doing what He wanted to do at first! e.g
Jonah 3:9-10
Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not? And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
No need to be sorry, you have created no havoc. As the "everyone is to be saved" part I don't think I stated you said that. Just that I went through thinking that a while ago. Just in line with "no hell" which is what I think you believe.
About the couple verses you stated for me as an answer to the first analogy I wrote "I just really see it as if we say there is a hell and there really isn't what wrong have we done" which is Christ quoting Isaiah 29:13. Which I can't quite link that to this. Then quoting the end of Revelation about changing the prophesies of the Bible. That is why I believe there is a place of eternal torment or "hell". Because the Bible says so. As you didn't reply to the second analogy in that "if people don't believe in "hell" though it really exists". How this could be dangerous to others in my eyes.
As Adam gave a good reply about to "fear God". This teaching is throughout the Bible as we are also to love Him. Say how you would love your dad but if you do something wrong you may be whipped for it and scared to know it's coming. Though this is much higher as with God. A couple more verses for you Psalms 34:9, Psalms 115:13, Proverbs 3:7, Luke 1:50, Romans 3:18, 2 Corinthians 7:1, Hebrews 12:28, Revelation 19:5.
As I have over forty verses to love God.
To the last statement of "if they told you that they had had a near death or actual death experience that fully validated substantiated and confirmed all their religious beliefs ?" Well, as there are hundreds probably thousands of NDE's and some have no experience at all. I have never heard of someone meeting Buddah, Allah, or Muhammed etc. Though I have seen people converted to Christ from those other religions. Even Atheists who didn't believe. As there are many and all are personal and unique. There are many things that connect with the teachings of the Scriptures.
In kindness.
God Bless.
Romans 3:19-28. Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
2 Corinthians 3:6-11. Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
God bless you.
To redeem means to purchase. We see in Romans 3:24 that those who are saved have been justified by the grace of God through the redemption in Christ Jesus. The word redemption means to purchase a slave out of the marketplace for the purpose of setting him free.
So Jesus purchased us from out of the marketplace of the world, where we were once the slave to sin, and He has set us free. We are now His possession. We belong to Christ. Right now, it is like we are sitting at the "will call" booth waiting for the one who purchased us to come to pick us up. Hopefully, that day will be soon!
I want to thank God first for giving you this prayer. This is a powerful prayer. Bothers and sisters thank you all for this beautiful prayer and In Jesus Name by His stipes we are healed. One of my favorite verses Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. But in that coming day no weapon turned against you will succeed. You will silence every voice raised up to accuse you.
Beloved Brothers and Sisters blessings to all of you.
Sister-jo
"In keeping of them is great reward" Psalms 19:11
"Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just and good" Romans 7:12
"the law is spiritual" Romans 7:14
"Sin is the transgression of the law" 1 John 3:4
"Cursed is everyone that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them" Galatians 3:10
"The soul that sinneth, it shall die" Ezekiel 18:14
"For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse" Galatians 3:10
"weak through the flesh" Romans 8:3
"Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight" Romans 3:20
"having no hope, and without God in the world" Ephesians 2:12
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all of our righteousness are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away" Isaiah 64:6
"We have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; as it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: there is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one...There is no fear of God before there eyes...For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:9-23
"the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness" Romans 1:18
"Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off" Romans 11:22
I believe anyone born again can make that claim, because of we being baptized in Christ, "read Romans 6.
BUT that don't make us sinless, as long as we're in these bodies sin is there,
read Romans 7.
Not until Christ rose from the dead were we given the power over sin, ""Not sinless but nolonger running after sin"".
( Romans 8:11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.)
John knew himself Jesus baptism was different and he needed it
Matthew 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
Before the Christ was crucified and rose again there was a dwelling of the Holyspirit for God's servants to minister but there wasn't a baptism of the Holyspirit that proceeded after the Lamb slain for the sins of the World. by which we minister and by which we are "Positionally sanctified " ( Forever cleansed from the penalty of sin)
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Romans 3:23-24. For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Here's one of many answers in the scripture to your statement /question,
""we are born to be vessels to carry what's within that some will make it and others will not some of us are born to guide and others to destroy what do you think?""
You're right we are vessels of clay, but these vessels has to be cleansed by the only one that is able, Our great high priest and savior Jesus Christ. Then only we can live a life acceptable to God.
Romans 3:23-25 (KJV) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
I see you referenced Allah, May I ask are you Muslim?
"Just, and the justifier of him which believeth ...
Sep 28, 2017 If God be just, I, a sinner, alone and without a substitute, must be punished; but Jesus stands in my stead and is punished for me; and now, if God be just, I, a sinner, standing in Christ, can never be punished. God must change His nature before one soul, for whom Jesus was a substitute, can ever by any possibility suffer the lash of the law.
He sends one to hell for one reason. "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." John 3:5
When the born-again believer sins, even if it's deliberate sin, the blood continues to cover our trespasses. 1 John 1: 9 states, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
Charles,
Paul, who you claim, preaches a different gospel than the apostles,
made it a practice to preach in synagogues in the cities he enters.
"And it came to pass in Iconium, that they went both together into
the synagogue of the Jews, and so spake, that a great multitude both
of the JEWS and also of the GREEKS believed." Act 14:1
"And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the
JEWS and the GREEKS." Act 18:4
"And this continued by the space of two years; so that all they which
dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus, both JEWS and
GREEKS." Act 19:10
"Testifying both to the JEWS, and also to the GREEKS, repentance
toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ." Act 20:21
ANSWER: Yes Paul preached to both Jews and Gentile. That what the Lord Jesus Christ told him to do. Acts 9:15 "But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:"
Neither Jew nor Greek... ANSWER: Romans 10:12 "For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him." Notice that the verse didn't say what they believed, but only that both had the same Lord.
"There is neither JEW nor GREEK, there is neither bond nor free,
there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ
Jesus." Gal 3:28
"Where there is neither GREEK nor JEW, circumcision nor
uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all,
and in all." Col 3:11. ANSWER; Romans 3:30 "Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith." MORE: Galatians 2:7-8 "But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; 8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)" NEXT POST:
What sweet questions!
To be saved is to be reconciled to God. In our present state, we are at enmity with God. God is perfect and God is just, we are sinners and fallen. But God devised a way for us to be brought back into a relationship with Him:
Romans 5:9-10: 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
You are saved by acknowledging your sin and its penalty:
All have sinned: Romans 3:23: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God
The Penalty for sin is death: Romans 6:23: For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Acknowledging that Jesus Christ died to pay for your sins.
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Repenting for your sins: Luke 13:3: I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. - That is a promise.
Just tell God that you are a sinner, in need of salvation...and that you believe Jesus Christ died for you and that you want to repent of your sins and that you want Him to save you.
I will be praying for you Clarence! Dear Lord, please grant Clarence the clarity needed to come to you. Thank you that he is searching Lord, and thank you for giving Him the courage to ask these questions. I pray that he will be saved Lord, and that he will be able to rejoice in that salvation. In Jesus' name...Amen.
"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
Romans 5:12
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"
Ezekiel 27 & 28 describes the King of Tyre as making himself a "god" and was called a "cherub" and referenced "Eden, the garden of God" This Cherub was "perfect" in beauty, faultless in his ways from creation onward until unrighteousness was found in him. Ez 27:3, 28:12,15
Isaiah 42:12 Reference the God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Joseph, David, Josiah, Ezekiel, John the Baptist, Jesus, the Apostles, etc. This Almighty God of Israel is the creator of all living things. In Psalms 83:18 he is called Jehovah God.
If you look in one of the earliest King James Bible of 1611 you'll see that name. Most modern translations have removed that name and substituted it with Lord claiming since the original pronunciation was lost it makes sense to remove it as if the Almighty doesn't exist. Also the divine name Jehovah or Adhonai or Elohim in some translation appears in the Tetragrammaton close to 7000 times so removing the name removes the knowledge and understanding of the Almighty and creates confusion. He just wasn't a tribal God in Isaiah 54:5 it says "....He will be called the God of the whole earth." Psalm 124:8 Jehovah is called the maker of heaven and earth.
Jesus who was a Jew also recognized the God of Israel as being Jehovah or Yahweh. Remember the Jewish clergy during the time of Jesus wanted to bring charges against Jesus in order to put him to death for blashemy so any of worship or acknowledgement he gave to any other god would have given them this opportunity. Plus Genesis 17:1, Isaiah 45:18, Psalm 83:18 refers to Jehovah God being one God. Deuteronomy 6:4,5 also call Jehovah one Jehovah. This is in harmony with Mark 12:29, Romans 3:29-30, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Ephesians 4:4-6, 1 Timothy 2:5 all these scriptures refer to one God.
For Jesus to believe in multiple gods or a triune god would be paramount to apostasy for a Jew and thus grounds for death. Also Roman Zeus was a triune god and existed during this time.
" I stand with the remnant. "
Your "stand" is a classic example of self-righteousness. That "stand" is you
willing yourself into departing from evil, thereby living right before God and
self-justified in your actions. Repent of your works based plan and trust God.
The ten commandments condemn everyone, you included. Deciding not to do
one or any of the sins does not negate "all have sinned and fallen short of the
glory of God" Romans 3:23 Salvation is a work through the sinless life of the
only begotten Son of God, dying the death sinners deserve, whereby God is
then Sovereign in his graciousness to impute righteousness to those who
trust they are saved by his grace alone. You have no power to forgive
yourself of your sin. To be minded otherwise is a serious affront to God.
You stated men are born righteousness, My response was no one is born righteous. Being right right with God doesn't make you sinless.
Our righteousness don't purify the heart
Isaiah 64:6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Christ righteousness has to be imputed on to us. In that case all that truly accepted Christ should be on that list
Let's first look at the verse in Psalms YOU gave to validate your point.
""It don't quote the way you presented it"" However what you added argues my point for me..
You quoting """When an unjust person returns to God they will be justified, made just again""" Here is a few more verses to add to your quote.
2 Corinthians 5:21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Romans 3:22 . Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Isaiah 53:11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
Job even disagrees with you:
Job 15:14-16. What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?
Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
How much more abominable and filthy is man, which drinketh iniquity like water?
If you believe that's a list of sinless men I'm sure David would disagree with you also.
If we can be right with God our deliverance would have came from the law!!
I am only thinking your question was to me but as it was a reply to Shane's post. I hope I am not stepping on your toes Shane and of coarse please reply if you'd like.
What I take of Romans 3:10-12 is Paul stating that everyone is under sin. Going further into chapter 3 as he states things like "their feet are swift to shed blood" "destruction and misery are their ways" "the way of peace have they not known" etc. Seeming as he's talking of people that are pretty deep into a sinful life as "there is no fear of God before their eyes".
Then getting to verse 21 he begins to speak of the righteousness of God and the redemption in Christ Jesus.
I guess I would just say keep reading the chapter and how it pans into the Lord. Chapter 23 again stating "for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God". As we have nothing to fear because He sent Jesus Christ for us.
Romans is a great Book by Paul. I hope my post has helped some. God Bless you.
What we term a 'good person' is based on our understanding of 'goodness', i.e. one well behaved, conforms to society's norms & requirements, has a careful, considered disposition, rendering help to others & not given to 'major sins'. And yet, will all that 'goodness', God still manages to find fault with him. Is God unfair or judging us too harshly? From our viewpoint, we might think so, but from God's viewpoint (& from the Word), He assesses us correctly.
If "all have sinned & come short of the glory of God (or, God's standards)" ( Romans 3:23), God takes into account that evidence of sin, however minute in substance, as that which infects & affects the whole ("a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump" 1 Corinthians 5:6). Just as the addition of a little leaven (yeast) causes fermentation & expansion of dough that affects the whole bread, so to does the smallest of sins (white lies, pride, bitterness, false accusation, anger, etc.) spoils the whole person making him a sinner: he's not a person who slips up in some sin but still essentially good, but a person who because of sin is essentially bad but show traits of goodness at times. But even with all his 'goodness', can he present himself as acceptable to God? Never to a holy God.
Romans 2:11-16 explains why a person never hearing about God or the Gospel through His Son, still remains condemned. In advanced civilizations, the Law alerts a person to his errors & sins. Amongst hidden tribes, their tribal Law applies, & where that law doesn't deal with sin, man is naturally alerted in his heart to wrong doing, their conscience bearing them witness. No chance without the Gospel reaching them.
If you believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, then you are saved. You cannot lose your salvation.
Romans 3:23...For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
2 Timothy 2:15...Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
Read the KJV Bible, pray, and go to Church.
Ephesians 4...21..If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22.That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; 23.And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; 24.And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. 25.Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. 26.Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: 27.Neither give place to the devil.