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Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one (Adam) man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Sin nature or fallen DNA passed upon all creation which is why we needed a redeemer or savior.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Jesus was without sin as our high priest.

Amen. An answer based on scripture and not emotions or experiences. Thank you.

Paul is the only ONE in The Word of God that says, "Behold, I shew you a MYSTERY."

The Tribulation is a prophesied event for ISRAEL.

The Rapture is a MYSTERY for The Body Of Christ!

Jesus Christ reveals to Paul a NEW program.

Paul has a NEW Gospel in this Age of GRACE 1 Cor 15:1-4, believing that Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins, was buried and rose again, and we are SAVED all by grace through faith in that alone!

The Body of Christ has to be out of the way so that God can resume His prophetic program with Israel called The Tribulation.

Paul tells us The Body of Christ is saved from the wrath to come.

Romans 5:9

Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

The Tribulation Gospel is NOT going to be good!

Revelation 14:7

Saying with a loud voice, FEAR God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his JUDGMENT is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

NO MORE GRACE in The Tribulation!

The Body of Christ SAVED today by The Gospel Of GRACE will be Raptured and then God deals with ISRAEL with The Tribulation with the everlasting Gospel.

The Rapture for The Body Of Christ and The Tribulation for ISRAEL; TWO Completely Different Programs for TWO Completely Different groups, with TWO Completely Different GOSPELS!

Dear Douglas Russel Jr., Oh, how I hope since you've reached out here, that you have come to understand The Good News of Christ's Love and what it means to be saved by God's Amazing Grace :)

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "...I declare unto you the GOSPEL...By which also ye are saved...How that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. :)

*Because of what God says in His Word, the Bible, I believe*:



that man is saved from eternal punishment and is justified freely by grace through faith in the sacrificially shed blood of Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary

( Romans 3:21-26, Ephesians 2:8-9, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4).

that Salvation is a completely undeserved free gift bestowed upon all who simply believe ( Romans 5:12-21, 4:5).

during this dispensation of grace, every person who believes the gospel of the grace of God ( Acts 20:24) is eternally saved from God's wrath.

All saved people during the dispensation of grace are eternally saved and complete in Christ ( Romans 5:1, Colossians 2:10).

Salvation is the work of God and not the work of man. Therefore, it is impossible for anyone who has trusted in Christ to ever be lost again. AND ...We are sealed by the Holy Spirit and are not our own -- we are bought with a price

( Colossians 3:1-4, Romans 8:29-39, Ephesians 1:13-14, 4:30, 1Corinthians 6:19-20).

Space here is running low. I hope to share more in another comment if allowed.

As the Apostle Paul repeatedly said:

" Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ " ... Amen.

Hi Wanda, yes, it's always good to learn what the Bible says to us & to be able to discuss its Truths & learn from them. In reading Genesis 3, I do believe that both Adam & Eve were present during Satan's approach to them, to tempt them to sin. And yes, both of them knew that the fruit of that particular tree was forbidden by God for them to eat. Not that the fruit was bad & could cause them harm, but it was God's test of their obedience to their Creator.

And of course, the old Serpent was not far away to entice these sinless souls to committing sin so that now the sinless became the sinner, & so sin passed onto the rest of their descendants (us) through the flesh so tainted ( Romans 5:12). Satan was also around in this manner (as you may remember), when Jesus, God's sinless Son, was also tempted ( Matthew 4:1-11). Jesus was tempted on all points as we are ( Heb 4:15): "the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life". ( 1 Jn 2:16), but unlike Adam & Eve, He resisted Satan's thrusts & relied on God's Word, the Sword of the Spirit, to thwart Satan's offerings to Him. So now, all who believe on Jesus & trust Him for their salvation, are made new creations ( 2 Cor 5:17) who still have the body of sin, but now a new enlivened spirit touched by the Spirit of God ( Rom 8:9).

Adam and Eve had other children, so Cain's wife could have been one of his sisters. The bible doesn't tell us specifically who Cain's wife was. At that time, they were allowed to intermarry. That would be incest to us and considered sin. It was sin then also. But we have to understand that at that time, God had not yet given the law, so they did not know that it was a sin.

Romans 5:13 says "For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law." So sin was not imputed before the law was given because there was no knowledge of sin. Nobody knew what sin was, though sin was there.

There is no more Jew or Gentile in Christ Jesus,he took of the twain Jew or Gentile and made 1 newman which is the H.G our new innerman that is formed in us via the seed of Christ.The curse of Adam was passed on to all men thus the blood of Christ has to be applied to all men.If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me ALL MEN .GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD ETC.Jesus tells Nic. a Jew he had to be bornagain a teacher of the law.There was none righteous no not one. Thus israel needed to BE REBORN.By one spirit are we all baptised into the body of CHRIST JEW OR GENTILE BOND OR FREE.Peter was jewish but he teaches his ppl they must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the word of God etc gbu

No Jesus did not have Mary's DNA since all of mankind had sin nature. That is why the virgin birth was so important.
Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Hebrews 7: 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
Jesus had the same mother and Father as the first Adam
1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Jesus came so we can be free and clear from all sin. I am an ex-sinner saved by grace. Romans 6:18. By Adam's disobedience man became sinners, now that Jesus came and became a spiritual Adam one who obeyed his Father we can be made free from sin. Romans 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Some believe that if you're following God that He'll make you wealthy and healthy. You'll see people on TV making such claims along with Joel Osteen, etc. The problem is the Bible doesn't promise that and when people get ill they may start doubting their faith. The devil is the father of lies and deceives Christians with falsehoods. John 16:33, Romans 5:3-5, 2 Corinthians 6:3-5

Since there was no death before sin, Romans 5:12, how long God took to get to the Garden of Eden is not the problem. According to the bible, life began 6000 years ago. God said it took six days, so I believe it took six days.

Brianna, here are some more KJV Bible Scriptures that proves that Jesus Christ was Almighty God. Matthew 1:23 John 5:23 John 8:58 John 14:9-11 John 10:30-33 John 20:28 John 14:6-7 2 John 1:7 1 Timothy 3:16 1 Timothy 6:14-16 Hebrews 2:17-18 Hebrews 4:15-16 Hebrews 1:8-9 1 Peter 2:24 John 15:13 Romans 5:8 Philippians 2:5-7.

In reality, it was each one of us who put Jesus to death. Our sins killed Him. 2 Corinthians 5:21. Also, read Romans 5:8 Matthew 27:22-25 Matthew 27:27-37. The "they" are all of mankind from the beginning of time. We all were born sinners in God's eyes, so Jesus Christ is asking the Father to forgive them for they know not what they do. Luke 23:34.

Soooo much here for us! Everything we need to live for HIM. we have it all:peace, access, hope, love, justified, saved, joy, atonement, grace, righteousness, eternal life.

I can't see where Romans 5:8 says don't thank me thank the one who is before me . JESUS said this somewhere , where ?

Ron-john: What Does Happen If Your Name is Not Found Written in The Book of Life? Answer Revelation 20:15. Asking questions with No Answers is Foolishness. What if God Made No Water?

There is no way to know what would've happened. Same can be asked of so many other events- what if Noah didn't obey God to build an ark- would we exist? What if Moses didn't follow God and make Israel. What if you hadn't made the choices you have in life- would you be the same?

Ronald Johns, read Genesis 3:6, both Eve and her husband did eat of the fruit.

what would have happened if eve had eaten the forbidden fruit and adam chose not to?

V-8: But God commendeth His Love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ DIED for US: THIS IS BIG: HUGE: UNBELIEVABLE: BUT TRUE! Why should a Thousand Time Holy God Love SINFUL: DIRTY: FILTYHY: Human Beings so MUCH: After we have: sinned: rejected: blasphemed: served other gods: etc: did not wash Hands off: done away with us: WHY SUCH LOVE? made us: Image: Likeness: LOVES US FOR EVER

one man came and sinned causing all to die in that sin, another came full of grace and hope, that who so ever belief in him shall life forever

Roman 5;12 is speaking of one mans sin that passed to all others, is Adams sin, and it was passed to all his generations, and then Romans 5:14 Adams transgressions death came to those even who did not sin

But ye wicked (being many antichrists,) preaching what ye know not, loving death and threatening death by crafting your graven images into every vain thing: and fabricating all manner of falsehood and deceit, were prophesied of privately (in the Spirit;) when the disciples came to me saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

To me this means that Jesus died for our sins for one or millions. Because of who he is we have Grace through his blood.

How just and fair is the Lord God, By one sin entered in the world and with it death and by one we were forgiven are sins and gained eternal life. Amen

Who is it? Adam. Verse 12 / It Wasn't Moses, The People Did not Believe God. Read Numbers Chapters 13-14. A Year for a Day=40 Yrs./ Believing it's Adam or Moses will not Send You to The Lake of Fire. Sins not Covered by The Blood of The Lamb Will.

So? Just 'who' is 5:19 referring to? I ask this question of course thinking we may have
different perspectives on 'who'? And I will tell you up front, lest you believe I am contentious in spirit: as I am just looking for truth. But I believe the 'who' is not Adam who was disobedient but Moses! Who else can take people -mislead them for 40 years -on what we know today as a'11 day' faith journey!

Thank you for bringing this wonderful presentation of the Bible to us all. Truly you are doing God's work.

Wow just think of the Enormity of his DEATH at Calvary WHILE WE WERE YET SINNERS CHRIST DIED FOR US,AND IF I BE LIFTED UP I WILL DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME THIS IMPLIES EVERY SINNER ALL OF US THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY If all men share Adams evil nature THEN ALL MEN WILL SHARE CHRIST'S INCORRUPTIBLE NATURE BY HIS WORK OF OBEDIENCE AT CALVARY. OUR 1ST BIRTH CONDEMNED US BUT THE NEW BIRTH IS SALVATION

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