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  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    DALE E STAHLBERG,

    From the first Adam, all have sinned Romans 5:12. Even without the law we have sinned, there are people in this world that do much evil and there are people in this world that do much good and neither have never seen a bible or heard of Jesus. From the first Adam, not only death was passed, every person is born with the knowledge of good and evil, it is written in our conscience. With or without the knowledge of the law, one may choose to either do evil or do good.

    We see in Romans 2:12-15, read the entire chapter. Jesus first came almost 2000 years ago, the Messiah for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Then by the grace of God, the gospel of Jesus was given to all the other nations. Millions of people lived and died before He first came, are they doomed to eternal death? Millions since have never heard of Him, are they doomed?

    What we should contemplate, will we that have heard the gospel of Jesus be held to a higher standard of judgment? We see when Jesus sent the disciples out to tell people the kingdom of heaven is at hand, what it would be like if they rejected it. Matthew 10:14-15.

    Many see the great white throne judgment is only for the lost, but in my understanding, scripture does not support that. We have Daniel 12:2 John 5:28-29 Matthew 25:31-46, and more, and the parables. After the one thousand years, Revelation 20:11-15. All the rest of the dead small and great, raised from the dead, they will be judged out of the books and one of these books is the book of life, and whoever was not found in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire. Would the book of life be needed if all were lost? God is a just God and we can trust in His word.

    This is my understanding, may others have another view.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Rod - In Reply - 3 years ago
    not sure of what you're looking for but these are just a few verses in the NT about patience, also the book of Job is a story of patience and faith.

    Romans 5:1 - 5:4 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; And patience, experience; and experience, hope:

    1 Timothy 6:9 - 6:12 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on 2 Corinthians 1 - 3 years ago
    Part II

    2 Corinthians 1:9-10

    "...God Which raiseth the dead: Who Delivered us from so great a death, and Doth Deliver: in Whom we trust that He Will Yet Deliver us"

    2) God's Eternal Salvation in The Present Tense:

    The believer Should do 'good works' for which we 'are created In Christ Jesus' Ephesians 2:10

    Note that 'these works' will Never Be Equal to the Total Payment That Christ Made For 'the Penalty of sin,' for which "He Already Delivered" us in the past tense of 2 Corinthians 1:10

    These good works are for submission To Him, so that 'He Doth Deliver' us from 'the Power of sin,' present tense of 2 Corinthians 1:10

    We "work out Our Own salvation" which Should Be a lifetime of Deliverance From the Power of sin! Our personal {set our-'Self' apart} sanctification:

    2A)

    "Access The GRACE, Wherein ye stand!..." Romans 5:2

    1) "Die Daily" by submission, according to Paul's exhortation:

    "I beseech you therefore, brethren, By the Mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice..." Romans 12:1-2 cp 1 Corinthians 15:31

    2)

    "Walk In The Spirit!" Romans 8:1,4 Galatians 5:16,25

    "And walk in love, as Christ Also Hath Loved us, and Hath Given HIMSELF For us An Offering and A Sacrifice To God for a sweet-smelling savour." Ephesians 5:2

    2b)

    Fulfil, by faith, ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE thy neighbor as thyself!" Galatians 5:6 Galatians 5:14 Romans 13:8-10

    2c)

    Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show thyself Approved Unto God! 2 Timothy 2:15 Eternal Results:

    reward, or loss thereof 1 Corinthians 3:6-15, ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will Finally Be At The Judgment Day:

    3) God's Eternal Salvation in The Future Tense:

    CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body! This Is ETERNAL DELIVERANCE From the Presence of sin! 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1 Corinthians 15:51-57



    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    2 Timothy 2:15 Romans 16:25 Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship Romans - Philemon
  • Bro dan - In Reply on Matthew 16 - 3 years ago
    Judas betrayed Jesus for money, because he was a sinner. He had a choice, he made the wrong choice.

    We are all born sinners, but we don't have to continue to sin, because sin is the wrong choice.

    Romans 5:12

    "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"

    Once we hear the gospel of Jesus Christ we now have the same choice - as Judas, we can choose Jesus, or the world. The world consists of money, power, material things, and many ways to sin.

    Matthew 6:24

    "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."

    I choose God, and hope and pray that you will do the same. Stay close to your bible.

    God Bless.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on 2 Corinthians 12 - 3 years ago
    2 Corinthians 12:9 God's Power Of ALL-Sufficient GRACE in our weaknesses and infirmities:

    "PEACE With God," and knowing what good "tribulation worketh in us" ( Romans 5:1-5)

    "For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." ( Romans 8:18)

    The Spirit "helps our infirmities, And Prays For us" ( Romans 8:26)

    The Spirit "Intercedes For us, According To The Will Of God" ( Romans 8:27)

    God Makes "all things Work Together For Good," for HIS Own ( Romans 8:28)

    We are "Predestinated To Be Conformed To The Image Of God's SON" ( Romans 8:29)

    God Helps us "bear our testings" ( 1 Corinthians 10:13)

    We have The Wonderful "Comfort Of God!" ( 2 Corinthians 1:3-4)

    "For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a Far More Exceeding and Eternal Weight of Glory" ( 2 Corinthians 4:17)

    God will "change our vile body" to be "like HIS Glorious Body!" ( Philippians 3:21) Amen?

    Conclusion:

    "For our infirmities/sufferings"? Should we not "follow Paul our 'pattern'" ( 1 Ti 1:16)?:

    "And HE Said Unto me, My GRACE Is Sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that The Power of CHRIST may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for CHRIST's Sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong." ( 2 Corinthians 12:9-10)

    {Why do so-called "faith healers" ignore This Excellent Word Of God?}

    Amen? And Amen.

    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,?)

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on John 1 - 3 years ago
    Part 1

    Brother Chris, I thank you for your reply from the bottom of my heart and the love you show in it. I guess we will have questions until we die, and I feel our search for answers, if we humble ourselves in love as knowing nothing, in the body of Christ our walk will only be in the Spirit of truth. It's like when we were a child and we asked Daddy, Why.

    Your first question; why is His only begotten Son the only one that could die for us? We think of this question mostly of me and not us, why did God send His only begotten Son to die for, rotten old me? Who am I? The unfulfilling answer is God loves us ( John 3:16) ( Romans 5:6-10.) Throughout the New Testament, God is referred to as Father, God wanted a family ( Ephesians 1:4-5). That started on day six and I feel things happened then that were not written, but that is another discussion.

    The only one worthy of being the head of this family was His Son and only a holy man capable of sinning but strong enough not to sin was Jesus His only begotten Son. What is amazing Jesus was willing to do it. ( John 10:17-18). We see in ( 1 Corinthians 11:3) the structure of this family that we have messed up.

    I feel there is more that is not in scripture that we can only speculate which gets us out of line. Satan is one of the reasons it could have only been the only begotten Son, and very little about Satan is in scripture.

    I know you're probably looking for a more in-depth answer than this but for me, we would need more scripture covering after the seventh day, what happened when the angels left their first estate, and the involvement of Satan before the Garden of Eden. Sorry I know that is a big What!!!!

    continued
  • Chris - In Reply on 2 Corinthians 5 - 3 years ago
    Amen brother Carleton. Isaiah 53:6b: "and the LORD hath laid on him (Jesus) the iniquity of us all". And by faith in the crucified One, our "iniquities" are presented to the Father in His Son, Who mercifully forgives us & fully justifies us ('just if I'd' never sinned). The wonder of His Salvation - that all the praise must only go to Him. Romans 3:24; Romans 5:1.
  • Messenger - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Romans 5:12 Wherefore (as a result), as by one man sin entered into the world ( Genesis 3), and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

    all man (woman, children) on this earth are sinners . Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) is not looking for perfection.

    he's looking for *grief (repentance) and repentance from within ( Ps. 51:4). that inner thought and mind.

    that inner regret and groaning because of bad . but what if a person keep sinning willingly? Hebrews 10:26; 1 Corinthians 6:9,10

    however, what can be done to run in a way that doesn't cause

    a big stumble or fall with self or others?

    Psalm 1:1-3; 2 Timothy 3:16,17 study and correct

    Luke 22:40 prayer

    1Corinthians 15:33 Abandon anything that is influencing bad behavior.( Proverbs 13:20)

    *Example of major sin:

    2Samuel 12:1-18; Ps. 51:4

    I hope this helps. there is more... but don't want to

    overwhelm. ( Romans 7:14-25)
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply on Psalms 16 - 3 years ago
    Precious Marva: "does god hear my prayers when I'm unable to speak, but pray silently."? Yes, God Hears all humble people who approach Him, in faith, including dumb people who cannot speak:

    God Knows And Searches our hearts ( Acts 15:8; Romans 8:27), And His Spirit "Prays For us," Even when we "don't know what to pray for!" ( Romans 8:26):

    God's GRACE In our infirmities:

    (1) Read Romans 5:1-5, especially take note of verse 3, "we glory [rejoice] in tribulations." We are not instructed here to glory in spite of the trials of life we find ourselves in, but we are to rejoice because of them. That is to say we are to thank God for allowing times of suffering into our life. This passage of Scripture expressly states that The Lord uses the tribulations of life "to conform us to The Image Of His Son" ( Romans 8:29). To this end, He uses all things "to work together for good to them that love God, to them that are the called According To His Purpose" ( Romans 8:28). As we grow mature in The Lord, our Savior is Glorified. As believers in Jesus Christ it is given us "in behalf of Christ, not only to believe on Him, but also to suffer for His Sake" ( Philippians 1:29). (Borrowed from brother Ed Bedore) My study:

    (2) After Paul [our #"pattern"# for Today!] prayed 3 times for his affliction, the "Answer he Received," According To The Scriptures, Was:

    "And HE [CHRIST] Said Unto me, MY GRACE Is Sufficient For thee: For MY Strength Is Made Perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory [cp] in my infirmities, that The Power Of CHRIST May Rest Upon me!" ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) cp ( 2 Corinthians 11:23-30)

    (3) Compare With GRACE Scriptures: ( Romans 5:1-5) ( Romans 8:18) ( Romans 8:26-29) ( 1 Corinthians 10:13) ( 2 Corinthians 1:3-4) ( 2 Corinthians 4:17) ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) ( Philippians 3:21)

    #"pattern"# = Paul = ( 1 Timothy 1:16) ( Philippians 4:9)

    ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 =

    Grace/Mystery fellowship, today?)

    Please Be Encouraged!
  • David - In Reply on Romans 5 - 3 years ago
    Kathy R. Amick The only peace we have in this world is believing what we have in Christ, we will always deal with tribulation which is mental pressure, but because when walking by the spirit we are more than conquerors then we develop patience and glory in overcoming the tribulations.
  • Kathy R Amick on Romans 5 - 3 years ago
    what does the Bible mean by tribulations? And what does it mean that patience, experience?
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Part II "Do we have 'authority' to raise the dead?" IF God's Will is for that, then HE "Will raise the dead," be we do not have the 'authority' as did the apostles ONLY {see Previous post...}

    What is God's Program for today?:

    God's GRACE In our infirmities

    (1) Read Romans 5:1-5, especially take note of verse 3, "we glory [rejoice] in tribulations." We are not instructed here to glory in spite of the trials of life we find ourselves in, but we are to rejoice because of them. That is to say we are to thank God for allowing times of suffering into our life. This passage of Scripture expressly states that The Lord uses the tribulations of life "to conform us to The Image Of His Son" ( Romans 8:29).

    To this end, He uses all things "to work together for good to them that love God, to them that are the called According To His Purpose" ( Romans 8:28). As we grow mature in The Lord, our Savior is Glorified. As believers in Jesus Christ it is given us "in behalf of Christ, not only to believe on Him, but also to suffer for His Sake" ( Philippians 1:29). (Borrowed from brother Ed Bedore) My own study:

    (2) After Paul [our #"pattern"# for Today!] prayed 3 times for his affliction, the "Answer he Received," According To The Scriptures, Was:

    "And HE [CHRIST] Said Unto me, MY GRACE Is Sufficient For thee: For MY Strength Is Made Perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory [cp] in my infirmities, that The Power Of CHRIST May Rest Upon me!" ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) cp ( 2 Corinthians 11:23-30)

    (3) Compare With GRACE Scriptures: ( Romans 5:1-5) ( Romans 8:18) ( Romans 8:26-29) ( 1 Corinthians 10:13) ( 2 Corinthians 1:3-4) ( 2 Corinthians 4:17) ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) ( Philippians 3:21)

    #"pattern"# = Paul = ( 1 Timothy 1:16) ( Philippians 4:9)

    Please Be RichlyEncouraged, Enlightened,Exhorted, and Edified in fellowship With Christ! ( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship, today, ENDING in our resurrection 'from the dead'/rapture?)
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on Galatians 2:7 - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Part II (Previous) Gospel of the kingdom

    Rightly Divided From ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    Gospel Of The GRACE Of God =

    Gospel of the Uncircumcision ( Galatians 2:7; Galatians 6:15; Romans 4:9-11)

    Preached first by Paul, then his companions ( Acts 13:38-39; Acts 20:24; Acts 16:31; Romans 3:24)

    The Mystery Program for The Gentiles ( Ephesians 3:1-3; Colossians 1:25-27; Romans 16:25)

    The preaching of The Cross as Good News ( 1 Corinthians 1:18; 1 Corinthians 2:2; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4)

    Gospel to be believed = Christ's Work ( Romans 5:6 Romans 5:8 Romans 5:10; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

    Salvation By GRACE Through faith plus nothing ( Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 4:5; Titus 3:5)

    Justification by faith without works emphasized ( Romans 3:28; Romans 4:5,16; Galatians 2:16)

    Repentance as a synonym for faith ( Acts 17:30; Acts 20:21; Acts 26:20; Romans 2:4)

    Involves reconciliation to God and man ( Romans 5:10-11; Romans 11:15; 2 Corinthians 5:18-20; Ephesians 2:16; Colossians 1:21)

    Covers Paul's letters Romans - Philemon (Also Acts 9-28)

    Not under the law ( Romans 5:20-21; Romans 6:14; Galatians 5:6)

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    IMKane, hope this was helpful answering your Great questions.

    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!
  • Rick - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Carleton In the scriptures Romans 5:1 Therefore we have been justified by faith we have peace with God through our lord Jesus Christ as long as we are faithful in our walk. I don't see losing the peace of God spiritually but if we get caught up in the things of the world we will lose the effectiveness or fruits of that peace of God.

    We have the righteousness of God also we have been redeemed or bought back and we are sanctified or set apart but again if an individual chooses not to change than what he's been given is of no effect.

    The work of the walk is an individuals mindset to the word, and the choice to do it Gods way. Most christians do a pick and choose why because it fits what they like. The idea is to Let Go and Let God. Just some of my observations In His Service
  • Rick - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Carleton Brother when we are born again we have Peace with God Romans 5:1 through what Jesus Christ accomplished we became sons or daughters of the most High spiritually why would you not have great peace with that.

    You ask how do we know I know because It Is Written! to question this is like questioning if your righteous if your justified if your sanctified and the answer to all is ABSOLUTELY that is what was accomplished by Jesus Christ. In 2 Corinthians 5:20 Gods Word says we are Ambassadors for Christ, in 5:19 it says we have been given the ministry of reconciling men back to God. Either we believe the completeness of what was done and act accordingly or we stagnate in thinking this is too good to be true. I'll stick with believing. In His Service
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} on 2 Corinthians 12:9 - 3 years ago
    Luke Thompson on 2 Corinthians 12:9: "Gorgeous, as are all others. thank you dear loving LORD!!!!"

    Amen, Precious brother Luke. Here is a little more of the "Gorgeous" All Others:

    God's GRACE In our infirmities

    (1) Read Romans 5:1-5, especially take note of verse 3, "we glory [rejoice] in tribulations." We are not instructed here to glory in spite of the trials of life we find ourselves in, but we are to rejoice because of them. That is to say we are to thank God for allowing times of suffering into our life. This passage of Scripture expressly states that The Lord uses the tribulations of life "to conform us to The Image Of His Son" ( Romans 8:29). To this end, He uses all things "to work together for good to them that love God, to them that are the called According To His Purpose" ( Romans 8:28). As we grow mature in The Lord, our Savior is Glorified. As believers in Jesus Christ it is given us "in behalf of Christ, not only to believe on Him, but also to suffer for His Sake" ( Philippians 1:29). (Borrowed from brother Ed Bedore) My study:

    (2) After Paul [our #"pattern"# for Today!] prayed 3 times for his affliction, the "Answer he Received," According To The Scriptures, Was:

    "And HE [CHRIST] Said Unto me, MY GRACE Is Sufficient For thee: For MY Strength Is Made Perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory [cp] in my infirmities, that The Power Of CHRIST May Rest Upon me!" ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) cp ( 2 Corinthians 11:23-30)

    (3) Compare With GRACE Scriptures: ( Romans 5:1-5) ( Romans 8:18) ( Romans 8:26-29) ( 1 Corinthians 10:13) ( 2 Corinthians 1:3-4) ( 2 Corinthians 4:17) ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) ( Philippians 3:21)

    #"pattern"# = Paul = ( 1 Timothy 1:16) ( Philippians 4:9)

    Precious friends, Please be Very Encouraged In The LORD JESUS CHRIST And His Word Of Truth!
  • Jesse - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 13 - 3 years ago
    Marlene,

    Hope comes from the word ELPIS. The word hope is found in several places in the Bible. Romans 5:4 is one place. It says, "And patience, experience; and experience works out hope:"



    You see, our hope is certain. Hope, Elpis in the Greek, does not mean a hope like wish, "I wish it will happen." It's an expectancy. You expect it to happen. You know it's going to happen.



    When God proves Himself to us through all of our situations, that builds our hope because of experience in Christ.

    And we see this in Romans Chapter 5, Verses 1 through 21 which speaks of the privileges of justification.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply on Mark 2 - 3 years ago
    Popeye asks: "infirmity" questions - Please help me that I may pass it along.

    Popeye, Precious friend, I will pray for you - hope this helps:

    God's GRACE In our infirmities

    (1) Read Romans 5:1-5, especially take note of verse 3, "we glory [rejoice] in tribulations." We are not instructed here to glory in spite of the trials of life we find ourselves in, but we are to rejoice because of them. That is to say we are to thank God for allowing times of suffering into our life. This passage of Scripture expressly states that The Lord uses the tribulations of life "to conform us to The Image Of His Son" ( Romans 8:29). To this end, He uses all things "to work together for good to them that love God, to them that are the called According To His Purpose" ( Romans 8:28). As we grow mature in The Lord, our Savior is Glorified. As believers in Jesus Christ it is given us "in behalf of Christ, not only to believe on Him, but also to suffer for His Sake" ( Philippians 1:29). (Borrowed from brother Ed Bedore) My study:

    (2) After Paul [our #"pattern"# for Today!] prayed 3 times for his affliction, the "Answer he Received," According To The Scriptures, Was:

    "And HE [CHRIST] Said Unto me, MY GRACE Is Sufficient For thee: For MY Strength Is Made Perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory [cp] in my infirmities, that The Power Of CHRIST May Rest Upon me!" ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) cp ( 2 Corinthians 11:23-30)

    (3) Compare With GRACE Scriptures: ( Romans 5:1-5) ( Romans 8:18) ( Romans 8:26-29) ( 1 Corinthians 10:13) ( 2 Corinthians 1:3-4) ( 2 Corinthians 4:17) ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) ( Philippians 3:21)

    #"pattern"# = Paul = ( 1 Timothy 1:16) ( Philippians 4:9)

    Please be Very Encouraged In The LORD JESUS CHRIST And His Word Of Truth!
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious friend(s), IF you have prayed and received NO healing, Then, think about:

    God's GRACE in our infirmities:

    Read ( Romans 5:1-5), especially take note of verse 3, "we glory [rejoice] in tribulations." We are not instructed here to glory in spite of the trials of life we find ourselves in, but we are to REJOICE because of them. That is to say we are to thank God for allowing times of suffering into our life. This passage of Scripture expressly states that the Lord uses the tribulations of life "to conform us to the image of His Son" ( Romans 8:29). To this end, He uses all things "to work together for good to them that love God, to them that are the called according to His purpose" ( Romans 8:28).

    As we grow mature in the Lord, our Savior is glorified. As believers in Jesus Christ it is given us "in behalf of Christ, not only to believe on Him, but also to SUFFER for His sake" ( Philippians 1:29).
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Jaden.

    I would like to attempt to refresh your question because it is All important.

    To get a understanding of salvation we must recognize that we have come up short even when giving our best efforts.

    We are sinners no matter who we attempt to compare ourselves with. And the wages of sin is death.

    Romans 5:12. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    Romans 6:23. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Hebrews 9:22. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

    OUR REDEMPTION.

    Salvation is not getting away with sin "because we say we believe" Salvation is Christ to on the penalty of our sins and died for us, And those who truly has been regenerated was baptized into that death. and when Christ rose again they was baptized into his resurrection with newness of Everlasting life.

    1 Corinthians 15:21-22. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.

    For as IN Adam all die, EVEN SO IN CHRIST SHALL ALL BE MADE ALIVE.

    Now to attempt to answer your question.

    We believe we are without hope apart from Christ, Christ took the penalty of our sins upon him and paid for them with his life. Then rose again the third day. We were IDENTIFIED/BAPTIZED into that death and resurrection by the Holyspirit. Romans 1:3-4.

    Now fruit in our lives confirms our belief.

    and we. If there is no fruit produced in our lives then our faith was in vain.

    Because it's Christ spirit in you that performs.

    Philippians 1:6. Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:

    Hopefully we can expand on this.

    God bless.
  • GRACEambassador ChrisE - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Concerning "the birthday" of the church? "the beginning of the church {GR. ekklesia = assembly} of God in operation started day of Pentecost."? There is another Bible view of this, eliminating a lot of confusion:

    (1) The Pentecostal assembly was God's Continuation of prophecy and law for Israel, the assembly Jesus showed HIS Twelve apostles, "on the EARTH," in ( Matthew 16:18)

    a) This assembly is "associated" with water baptism AND Baptism By Christ, Pouring Out "WITH" HIS Holy Spirit, for "powers, signs, and wonders," and healing everyone, Correct?

    However, with Right Division ( 2 Timothy 2:15), we have, for God's GRACE And MYSTERY:

    (2) The GRACE church of today is a "New Creation" showed To Paul, HIS ONE apostle:

    "If any man [be] In CHRIST, [he is] a New Creature..." ( 2 Corinthians 5:17)

    A) This "New Creation" is actually The Body Of CHRIST, which was UNknown in Matthew, being "Hidden In God" ( Ephesians 3:9), until Paul:

    B) God Saved, By GRACE and MERCY, Paul as our "Pattern = in me FIRST..." ( 1 Timothy 1:16)

    C) Since Paul was The FIRST man IN The Body of CHRIST, It is Called "the ONE New man"

    ( Ephesians 2:15)

    D) This assembly, showed To Paul, from CHRIST, "IN HEAVEN," has "Associations" with:

    (1) The ONE Baptism, "BY" The Holy Spirit, Identifying/Unifying new "members" with The Body Of CHRIST, "Seated In the Heavenlies" ( Ephesians 1:3) ( Ephesians 1:20)

    ( Ephesians 2:6) ( Ephesians 3:10)

    (2) God's Amazing GRACE for our "infirmities, suffering, trouble, and tribulations" ( Romans 5:1-5) ( Romans 8:18) ( Romans 8:26-29) ( 1 Corinthians 10:13) ( 2 Corinthians 1:3-4) ( 2 Corinthians 4:17) ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) ( Philippians 3:21)

    Thus, "solving the confusion IF signs, wonders, and miracles, FOR US, today"?! Amen?

    An Informative/Edifying Biblical article is "The Birthday of the Church" by Ricky Kurth. Enjoy!
  • Dianne - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Help from Evangelists Another question to ask your friend thousands of people have gone to war and fought for love of freedom and country and family. Isn't that in certain way sacrificing their lives so that others would be free. God gave freely out of love Romans 5:6-8 his Only begotten son Jesus Christ for us to be spiritually set free from bondage of sin, broken fellowship with God. Jesus Christ gave Himself freely out of love by doing the will of a loving Father God so God could have the Family He always desired. Why blood sacrifice in Leviticus 17:11 the life of the flesh is in the blood Jesus Christ blood is the payment for our sins and His broken body was for our healing. Sacraficial lamb of God.
  • Chris - In Reply on Revelation 2 - 3 years ago
    Hello Estela. Yes, many people have enquired how a good God can permit so much suffering upon us. If He is so good, shouldn't He step in & put an end to sicknesses, diseases, murders, etc.?

    I think of it this way: if God did put a stop to these things, then they would only be temporary, since every man, woman & child is born a sinner ( Romans 3:23), & because of our sinful condition, all these things come upon us. When Adam & Eve were created, they were sinless, enjoying God's Presence continually, no sickness, in harmony with animal life around them, & would never see death. But once they disobeyed God & sinned, they lost all that perfection, & they had to hide from God (Genesis chapters 2 & 3).

    And ever since, their sinful nature & death was passed upon all of us ( Romans 5:12) & the proof is the way we behave before God & our fellow-man even now. Even the one who murders another is no different to the one who has hate in his heart, according to Jesus ( Matthew 5:21,22). Or the man who cheats on his wife is the same as the one who cheats on his taxes. So all these evil traits that we might have in us are a result of indwelling sin. Yes, God can stop us from doing those evil acts, but evil will always be with us & in our hearts - and this is unacceptable before God.

    What God has done, was to give us a new heart & a new spirit so that we won't do those things that come from within ( Matthew 15:19). If our heart is clean & right before God, we won't do evil & hurt one another and that was why He sent His Son to this Earth to give His Life. Jesus paid the price for our sin, which we couldn't pay, & made us acceptable before God & a clean vessel to be used by Him. So in God's Sight, stopping the murder of someone doesn't fix the problem of murder: murder will always happen, whether against someone or in our hearts. The solution to stop them is that they be changed on the inside. But most people refuse His salvation & so evil will continue with so much suffering.
  • Dianne - In Reply on Revelation 13:16 - 3 years ago
    Hi Henry in your beginning reply to Rev. 13: 16 just something to think about all sin is broken fellowship with God. Ephesians 2:5 we were all born in sin, i.e. no fellowship with God which was fixed by Jesus Christ. That's all mankind going back to adam first time mentioned going back to Gen.4:7 before the murder of abel by Caln. Also Romans 5:8-14 for your consideration. God Bless.
  • Dianne - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Ray You are in need of total change of focus mentally, In the old testament He sent His word and healed them and delivered them from their fears. Change your head change your life. Scriptures are light and life. Here's a few 2 Timothy 1:7, 2 Peter 2:24, John 14:12-14, also you must act on what the word of God says we have been given. I.E. Romans 5:1-9, Romans 8:28-39, 1 John 3:1+2, 1 John 3:20-22, 2 Peter 1:1-8, never focus the negative. Remember what you have been given was and is Gods good pleasure, and it blessed Him because He desired a family us, Ephesians 1: 1-11, so there get the light of the word in. I'll be praying for you.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    HI Rebecca.

    I agree with sister Dianne. Ephesians 2:8. For by grace are ye saved ( through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:)

    I would like to add a verse or two.

    1 John 2:2. And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

    Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation ""to every one that believeth;"" to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

    I suggest getting an understanding of Romans 5:1-21. Romans 6:1-23.

    and James 2:14-26.

    God bless
  • S Spencer - 3 years ago
    BROTHER Earl.

    Part 2. Sold under sin.

    Romans 7:14. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

    I believe this old fallen nature has a source behind it. Spiritual wickedness, Children of darkness.

    2 Corinthians 4:3-4. But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

    In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    John 3:19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

    I believe we're born Children of Adam and When we're Born again ( Born from above) we're Children of God.

    Romans 5:19. For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

    Note: To the Pharisees

    John 8:44. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. AND OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS IN THE FLESH DONT EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE PHARISEES.

    1 John 3:9-10. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

    In this the children of God are manifest, and the CHILDREN OF THE DEVIL: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, ( neither he that loveth not his brother. ) THERE IS HOW WE IDENTIFY THEM.

    1 John 2:11. But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

    This is why there is diverse beliefs we have seen recently, but did you notice only 2 sides, we see some join forces against the truth. because there is 2 sources behind the scene. Mathew 12:30.

    Part 3 coming.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Brian.

    There's a view of the Gap theory that I do find Interesting. But not to say the Dinosaur or Humans existed during this period. I believe All that was created In Genesis. Man. woman and Dinosaurs and all iving and extinct flesh was created in Genesis after the Gap theory. Because of this verse.

    Romans 5:12. Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    I will post a few articles later.

    God bless.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - 3 years ago
    The 70 th Week

    Part 3

    Jesus confirmed the last 3.5 years through His apostles ending when Stephen was killed, Paul was converted, Peter had his dream the conformation to Judah ended and the gospel was sent to the Gentiles. This fulfills the 70=weeks 490/483 years

    We have been told to study, we are told to test the spirits, trust our teacher the Holy Spirit and pray. These are the six things that were determined on Judah and the holy city Jerusalem, a few verses that may help see if this has been fulfilled by Jesus.

    1. To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Hebrews 9:15-18)

    2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( John 1:29) ( 1 Corinthians 15:3)

    ( 1 John 3:5) ( Psalm 32) ( Romans 8:3)

    3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Ephesians 2:16) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

    4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( Romans 3:21-26) ( 1Peter 2:24)

    ( 2 Corinthians 5:21) ( Isaiah 61:10-11)

    5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) ( Acts 3:18)

    ( John 5:36-40) ( Matthew 11:11-15)

    6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 8:1-12) ( Hebrews 9:6-14)

    The 70 th week has been used along with other Bible verses to paint a fantastic picture of end times. The pre, mid, or post rapture of the Church, an antichrist, 7-year tribulation, 3.5-year covenant with Israel, a third temple, abomination of desolation, 3.5 years great tribulation after breaking covenant, and more. Many of these teachings started in the late 1600s. I hope this helps, if this prophecy has been fulfilled, it will show the falsehoods of these teachings because without using part of the 70 weeks prophecy given to Daniel, these teachings will fall apart.

    Acts.3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.

    RLW
  • Pastor-Ronnie Williams - 3 years ago
    To everyone that is born again! 1 Timothy 2:8 (I will therefore that men pray every where, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting.) God is good, his mercy endureth forever! Romans 5:8

    (But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.)

    1 John 2:1

    (My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:)

    1 Thessalonians 4:17

    (Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.) Any time we need an uplifting, we should always go to the Word of God, that is where we will find peace, comfort, and the answer to everything that is important. Prayers for all.


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