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This verse summarizes the ideas in the previous verse in general terms. Paul frequently summarized in Romans , and often these summaries refer to the results of the action in view, as here (cf. Romans 4:25; Romans 5:21; Romans 6:23; Romans 7:25).Belief in Jesus Christ in one"s heart results in acceptance by God (i.e, imputed righteousness, justification, and positional sanctification). Testimony to one"s belief in Jesus Christ normally follows and normally is verbal. Paul was describing the normal consequence of belief. Witmer wrote that the confession is to God. [Note: Witmer, p481.] One"s confession that Jesus is Lord would be to God initially (i.e, expressing trust in Christ to the Father), but most interpreters have believed that the confession in view goes beyond God and includes other people as well. This seems to be a reasonable conclusion since the confession is to be made with the mouth. In what sense does this confession result in salvation. Paul obviously did not mean that confession of Jesus Christ secures acceptance with God since he just said belief in the heart does that ( Romans 10:9; cf. ch4). Salvation is a broad term that includes many kinds of deliverance, as we have seen. What aspect of salvation does taking a public stand for Christ secure For one thing it saves the person making the confession from the potential discipline of God. [Note: See Dillow, pp122-24.] It also saves him or her from the loss of reward that those who are unwilling to identify themselves with Him will enjoy (cf. Matthew 10:32-33; 2 Timothy 2:12). Furthermore, it often results in the eternal salvation of other people who hear the confession of faith and then believe themselves.

1 cor. 15:18....... Romans 6:23 the wages of sin is death. We muat come to repentance. We must keep the laws statutes and Commandments in ordinances of the most high. John 14:15 if you love me you will keep my Commandments. Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the law. The word end in the the Strong's Concordance means purpose or aim. He is coming back for his ELECT, ROMANS 11:7.. come to repentance in accordance with the word John 14:6 and you will not die the second death , you will be changed to Spirit and put on immortality.All praises to the Yahawah bahasham Yahawahshi. . See 2 Esdras 6:54-56. The children of Israel are Hebrews the abrahamic Covenant of Genesis 17 and 7 says if you will keep my law statutes Commandments in ordinances I will be your God and you will be my people. The 12 tribes of Israel all people of color only. According to Revelation 21 + 12 the Kingdom of Heaven is only Built For The 12 Tribes of Israel only. The letter J does not exist in the Hebrew language I'll father's name yahawah means he is he exists in Hebrew. Yahawahshi in hebrew means he is our salvation and deliver.er. Deuteronomy 28 48 + 49 the children of Israel was sent into slavery was a yoke of iron upon their neck. Only slaves ever had a yoke of iron around their neck that's a people of color. Revelation 1:15 Daniel 10:6 the son of man has skin that is liking until bronze burned in a furnace which is a dark brown skin man. This is the truth John 14:6 of these scriptures. Revelation 5:5 the son of man is no doubt the root of David tribe of Judah. Revelation 2:9 I know thy works thy tribulation and thy poverty but Thou Art rich and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not for they are synagogue of Satan see also Revelation 3:9.

Alex's comments about Spirits ( the H.G. ) AS IN JOHN 3 Jesus told Nic. a Jew he had to be bornagain of the Spirit remember that God is spirit thus God can be multiplied in US via that good seed the living word and the H.G CAN BE REGENERATED via his seed the word in humanity thats the 2 nd coming unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil child impling a birth of the spirit of God in US as the H.G. is GOD,Being bornagain again of an incorruptible seed even by the WORD OF GOD WHICH IS GLORFICATION OF CHRIST MEANS MULTIPLICATION of his spirit. I have glorfied it and will glorify it Again a 2 nd time It was glorfied a bit at Pentecost Thats y the H.G. was given but it was not the best wine,its the 2 nd wine that is the best wine th Woman has to travail again a 2 nd time just like bathsheba had to travail again a 2 nd time. Before the great king Solomon was born and allowed to build the temple My lil children of whom i travail in birth AGAIN AGAIN till Christ is fomed in you the Woman is in travail again for the manchild which is the H.G. THE KINGDOM CHILD the Comforter that answers to Solomon which means Comforter remember Solomon means comforter and he was the Granson in the Davidic Trinity.My point is Gods SPIRIT can be born in US via the seed of Christ, regeneration can take place in the spritual realm there can be gestation in the spritual realm thats y he is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit ,They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin he has a seed to sow in humanity and to whom that seed ( HIS WORD HIS BREATH ) came it made them GODS the H.G. was born in them that heavenly Child Thus Gods spirit can truly be born in US sinners, The Israel of God is gonna be as the stars of heaven all somewhat different but all the same just like natural Israel was like the sands of the seas but they were all the same all had 1 Father Abraham, Issac and Jacob 3 distinct beings,But the Israel of God are all SPIRITS that are gonna be born in humans.God so loved

Alex's comments on the H.G. John 6 The h.g. was not yet given b/c that Christ was yet glorified the H.S. was given but not the H.G. They are both spirits but only 1 is the granson ,the H.S. is the Father they are 3 distinct beings but only the H.G. is the granson th beginning of the israel of God they are 3 distinct beings but ya cannot blaspheme the H.G. simply b/c he is your own personal God, Your gift from God via the seed of the sower, a child of the kingdom. Your new heart and new spirit, Your new innerman, Your HIGH Priest, Your Kingdom that is born in you via that good seed th Word, the living word btw not the written word, there is no eternal life in the written word ya remember Jesus said search the scriptures in them you think you have eternal life but there is no eternal life is the written word. Eternal life is a byproduct a CHILD of the living WORD AS Jesus was the living WORD made flesh and blood not the written word made flesh and blood.As Mary was impregnated by the living word not the written word, There is simply no blood content in the written word but Jesus was the living WORD made flesh and BLOOD.Even in the O.T. WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD there WAS no remission of sins, If salvation cd have come via the written word then Christ shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness Thats y we must behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the WORLD. The written word is not God but the living WORD is truly GOD and is spirit and life. But we love and need the written word but only the living WORD is God th H.G. fell on them that heard the living word as Jesus said my words are spirit and life and the H.G. FELL ON THEM THAT HEARD HIS WORDS resulting in a Child, b/c i have spoken these Words sorrows have filled you hearts, Sorrows imply a spritual pregnancy as the H.G.is gonna be born in US via his seed .Thats y he is saying unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in,A child in our future.

Yes, Reba it does.

The HS is mentioned at least several times in the Hebrew Bible, aka OT, and has different names just like the Father and Son

He is first mentioned in Genesis 1:2 as the Spirit of God. Why did Moses highlight with specificity that it was God's Spirit since a supernatural being was understood as a type of spirit by all ancient cultures? Moses could have also simply written it as "God hovered over the waters". So, there is more to this plural yet singular Elohim God than what some dogmatic and grumpy Unitarians would laughably insist as evidence for their view

For the hair splitters, I have another example in Isaiah 63:10 where the HG is clearly the HS. To those who criticise that it is in lower case, that's petty reasoning but surprisingly the NIV Study Bible has it in proper capitalisation

Does the Old testament say anything about the Holy Ghost (sprit)?

You had only to receive Jesus as your Savior and Lord. Free to you, but it cost Him his Life. Turn off the tv and Read your Bible first, when you get home. -Mishael-

"A forensic term, opposed to condemnation. As regards its nature," "it is the judicial act of God, by which he pardons all the sins" "of those who believe in Christ, and accounts, accepts, and" "treats them as righteous in the eye of the law. In addition to the pardon of sin, justification declares that all the claims of the law" are satisfied in respect of the justified. It is the act of a judge and not of a sovereign. The law is not relaxed or set "aside, but is declared to be fulfilled in the strictest sense;" and so the person justified is declared to be entitled to all the advantages and rewards arising from perfect obedience to the law ( Rom. 5:1-10). "It proceeds on the imputing or crediting to the believer by God "himself of the perfect righteousness, active and passive, of his" "Representative and Surety, Jesus Christ ( Rom. 10:3-9)." Justification is not the forgiveness of a man without "righteousness, but a declaration that he possesses a" "righteousness which perfectly and for ever satisfies the law," "namely, Christ's righteousness ( 2 Cor. 5:21; Rom. 4:6-8)." "The sole condition on which this righteousness is imputed or credited to the believer is faith in or on the Lord Jesus "Christ. Faith is called a "condition," not because it possesses" "any merit, but only because it is the instrument, the only" instrument by which the soul appropriates or apprehends Christ "and his righteousness ( Rom. 1:17; 3:25, 26; 4:20, 22; Phil." 3:8-11; Gal. 2:16). "The act of faith which thus secures our justification secures also at the same time our sanctification (q.v.); and thus the doctrine of justification by faith does not lead to "licentiousness ( Rom. 6:2-7). Good works, while not the ground," are the certain consequence of justification (6:14; 7:6)

This comment is to no one in particular but follows with the thought of being a Martha.

Perhaps many Marthas in times past and present have gathered together in the name of Jesus their Lord, and have presented their Gospel in a worldly way, in an excusing way, in a self pleasing way, a beautiful serving kind of way, in a many souls are being saved kind of way, in a political way, in a saving of life or lives way, and have condemned others by this way;

All the while Jesus justified Mary.

It can happen to any of us to go off message.

By Love.

Hello, perhaps your comments are more for Mishael, yet they came to me as well.

These verses in Luke Chapter 10 speak to my heart.

Luke 10:38-42

Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received them into her house.

And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.

But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.

And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:

But one thing is needful, and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

I am too much like Martha, while it was and is, and will always be, that Jesus justified Mary in her faith and by her faith.

I hope this helps answer both of your questions.

Carleton

If I thought fraud was taking place at a Christian Organization/Charity, who should I contact? Please leave the information alos. Thanks

I have so much to ask you and hopefully I'll get that chance in the near future. But for now, I'll start by asking this; When someone claims to be a Christian but they work 40+ hours a week at their job and only donates maybe 2-hours of their time to reading the Bible and/or learning about God (includes church vists). When looking at the numbers, these numbers are consistant with a large group of people today. What their average week would look like. Unless their job consists of "Christian Duties," how can their life be justified?

Thank you. I look forward to seeing the song(s) on your heart!

God bless your meditations.

Carleton

Thankyou Ira The holy spirit has been pouring out psalms to me now everyday and i will put one on here soon.Yours is very good and uplifting God Bless you

Romans 1:4

And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Romans 6:5

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

That's all there is.

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Thank you Mishael. So many past song writers had such open vision for our hearts today, I need this song or one like it, in my life every day. We know of many that are sick right now that need prayers. I hope all is well with you and family.

Carleton

So sweet! I'm going to copy that and keep it in my Bible. Thank you.

Ira F Stamphill "A Tender Heart"

Give me a heart that's tender true; A heart that's kind a heart that's new; And let it be like Thine, O Lord, In every deed and every word. Take out the stony heart, take out the bitterness; Give me a gracious heart that's full of tenderness; A heart that understands, that will not fret nor pine, Give me a tender heart, a heart like Thine.

Give me a heart from sin set free, Unworthy though my life may be; And may Thy Spirit its temple fill And teach me to obey Thy will. May I forget the wrong someone has done to me And show the tenderness of Christ on Calvary; Let tears of sorrow come and all my ways refine, Give me a tender heart, a heart like Thine.

Give me a heart that no knows guile, A heart forgiving all the while; A heart that reaches to do a deed And stoops to help a friend in need. I want to feel the pain my neighbors often know And lend a helping hand if be friend or foe; I want to share the loss in every weal or woe And have a tender heart wherever I go.

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Thank YouDearGod for every thing!!!

I believe that a born again believer knows if they remain covered by the blood as an assurance by the presence of peace by the Holy Ghost.

T39Ann,

If "Once saved always saved are for those who stay in the Faith and do not sin again," what happens to a saved person that sins?

Hi, God bless and I hope I can help you understand via the Word and Holy Spirit. It is of a truth the Holy Spirit is being poured out opon all flesh, but that does not mean a person is saved. And Christ can not be with a person if they are NOT saved. So the answer would be: correct, recieving Christ comes after salvation.

The word is very clear that even evil spirits know who the Son of God is. They do not worship Him, and that is why we must test the spirits. If there is no truth in a person then by thier words, as it is written, we can learn of what spirit they have or if they are lacking the Holy Spirit. Recieving the Holy Spirit can only be done by Christ, Jesus.

I can attest that there is such a person or two that was once baptized even as the Word states in His Holy Precious Name, but they were not sincere in thier salvation and loved wickedness and even one of them denounced "Faith", turning to worshipping idols, will for sure see Hell. Once saved always saved are for those who stay in the Faith and do not sin again. All Sin is unbelief and all unbelief is sin...without belief and salvation (both are obedience) a person has no hope for eternal life. Then all that is left is a fearful waiting for the firey indignation as the Word states. That was thier choice, God abliged. Infirmities and iniquities are different. We still can make mistakes.

The strongest motives against sin, and to enforce holiness, are here stated. Being made free from the reign of sin, alive unto God, and having the prospect of eternal life, it becomes believers to be greatly concerned to advance thereto. But, as unholy lusts are not quite rooted out in this life, it must be the care of the Christian to resist their motions, earnestly striving, that, through Divine grace, they may not prevail in this mortal state.

For if, by the trespass of the one, death reigned through the one; much more shall they that receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one, (even) Jesus Christ. Adam's sin has allowed death to "reign" over the human race. We face physical and spiritual death because of sin. We may say that at the present time death is king of the hill ( Hebrews 2:15) for all who are not Christians. Death ceases to be king for those who become Christians because the saved "reign in life through Jesus Christ." Those who are in Christ are able to overcome the spiritual consequences of sin, and they overcome physical death in the sense that they will be raised to inherit eternal life. Death is no longer an unbeatable enemy. It may win a battle when it claims our life, but it will not defeat the Christian in the war for the soul. For information on the word "trespasses" (paraptoma), see the commentary on verse16. Concerning the word reign (basileuo), this same term is used of an earthly ruler in Matthew 2:22, sin ( Romans 6:12), and Jesus Himself ( 1 Corinthians 15:25). It is also found in verse21. Here, it is used twice, and its dual use shows that the reign of death can be defeated if we accept the reign offered by Christ. Describing God's grace as "abundant" (perisseia) caused Paul to use a term found only here, 2 Corinthians 8:2; 2 Corinthians 10:15; James 1:21. In each of these places it refers "to something above or beyond the normal. It suggests 'the element of excess and fullness that overflows the set bounds. In this process of overflowing, the existing standards and rules are transcended and what was comparable becomes incomparable'" (CBL, GED, 5:160). We have access to God's grace right now because "receiving" is a present tense verb. Notice too that our ability to overcome the consequences of sin is only possible "through" (ASV) or "by" (KJV) Christ. This is absolutely consistent with other verses like John 14:6.

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b. do you go to Confession for absolution? 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us that there is only one Mediator between God & man & His Name is Jesus. By believing that a priest can hear & absolve your sins shows that Christ is not approachable & cannot forgive, yet 1 John 1:9 says ""If we confess our sins (to whom?), he (Jesus) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness". We have our High Priest seated in Heaven (see Hebrews 5:5,6 & 10:21,22): there is no Priest, Cardinal or Pope that can ever do the work of Jesus in Heaven for us.

c. do you believe in the Eucharist that Christ's Body & Blood are physically evident there? Every time you partake of it, you are sacrificing Christ, or continuing Christ's sacrifice perpetually. Jesus died for your sins once only - we do great wrong to perpetually put Him to the Cross. Romans 6:9,10: "Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth NO MORE; death hath NO MORE dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God." Jesus is no longer at the Cross - He is seated at the Father's right Hand, continually interceding for His children ( Romans 8:34).

d. do you study God's Word for yourself or leave it up to the Priest to teach you? 2 Timothy 2:15, says to read & study God's Word for yourself & allow Him to speak to you from it. For many years, Catholics were not allowed to read the Bible for themselves, being told that they won't be able to understand it. So many blindly followed what they were taught - some are now reading the Bible for themselves & seeing new things. That is why we get such questions here: they may be very simple basic questions, but for those people, they were never told the Truth & so are desperate for answers. Please read the references I've given & other portions of the Bible in your devotion times with God: God will speak to you directly.

Exit Questions and go to the Community Area and click on steps to become a Christian. If you want to be sure...this the way we all had to go. Taking communion without being a Christian and not forgiving people who've hurt you, can heap condemnation on you.

Just follow the steps. This website actually has a brown box out on the entry page you can click on(today)

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1. Acknowledge the Problem: We have all sinned, and that sin separates us from God

No matter how good you think you are, no matter how many good things you try to do, it is still not good enough to get into heaven; it can't be earned but is a gift.

"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 6:23

"And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness; all these evil things come from within, and defile the man." Mark 7:20-23

2. Discover the Solution: Jesus

The only way for God to bridge the gap between Himself and us is through His Son, Jesus Christ. His death was a substitute for us; He paid the penalty for our sins.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God." I Peter 3:18

"Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under Heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." Acts 4:12

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The Bible says: that there is only "one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" ( 1 Timothy 2:5; "If we confess our sins (to whom?), he (Jesus) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" ( 1 John 1:9).

The Eucharist bread & wine mystically changed to the actual Body & Blood of Christ so you partook of Christ each time at Mass. The wafer tasted like a wafer, but you were required to believe that a physical change in them took place because Jesus was being crucified afresh each time. The Bible says in Romans 6:9,10: "Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth NO MORE; death hath NO MORE dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God." The Eucharist (we call the Lord's Table) also has the bread & the wine but they are representative only of His broken Body & shed Blood for us at Calvary. If they were supposed to change into His actual Body, then His disciples should have rather eaten his flesh when they ate together in the Upper Room ( Luke 22:19,20). But they ate the bread & drank the wine instead, which were only emblems of His Body & Blood. So, the apostles & the Church (then & now) do not re-crucify Jesus each time but we remember His Death in this way as Jesus instructed.

I've only mentioned a few things that are important for you to know, but there is much more. The matter of not praying to Mary, the Mother of Jesus, or praying to the saints, or believing in purgatory, & many more RC teachings that are not in the Bible.

Yet, to answer your question: "how do I know if I'm saved?" Firstly, you need to know that Christ's salvation is only by having FAITH in what He did for you on the Cross: faith in His dying for your sins, taking your place; His Resurrection back to life showing that God accepted His Sacrifice; His Ascension back into Heaven & His intercessory work for you right now.

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.or if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.Freedom comes from God , that is why we cry Abba Father!Jesus said to Nicodemus,If I tell you earthly things and you believe not ,how will you believe if I tell you of heavenly things! The kingdom of heaven is within you. We worship Him in truth and in Spirit! To know Him is to love Him!

Jim,

Yes, Jesus is deserving of praise. You do well to praise Him and realize that He is all you need. I agree that He died for all. There are many places in scripture that show that Christ shed His blood for all and that salvation is offered to all who will receive Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. You quoted Part of John 3:16, but here are a few other verses that agree with what you are saying: 1 Timothy 4:10, 1 John 4:14, 1 John 2:2, John 1:29, John 4:42, Hebrews 10:10, Romans 6:10, Hebrews 9:26, Hebrews 9:12.

So you are correct in saying that Jesus suffered and died for all, but unfortunately not all will receive Him. From what you are saying, I can assume that you've received Christ. Continue to praise Him and always keep Him first in your heart and life. God bless!

Water baptism is definitely needed. Read Mark 16:16. 1 Peter 3:18-20. Romans 6:3-8. There's more. Even the parting of the Red sea was a type of baptism. Same as Noahs Ark. Read it for yourself. It's all in the Bible. The Bible says you must be born again to SEE the kingdom. But water & the Spirit are needed to enter into the kingdom of God. In the book of Corinthian 11, it speaks of the heavenly language. It is a language that only God knows but it's me talking to him from my heart. If I know not what to pray then this is where the Ho!y Spirit comes in to help. So many ppl think they have the Holy Ghost but do not. Study what the Bible says. Do not go to a commentary for answers.Do not Go to YouTube for answers. Go to God. Many churches out there do not teach all truth. Only partial. This is a matter of making it to heaven or not. Take no chances. You will receive power once the Holy Ghost has come upon you. I speak the truth & you were told what I wrote is truth. Pray & ask God for the a revelation. Open your heart for truth. Baptism has always been in Jesus name from the early church days. Research that truth.