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  • Jesse - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Gerald,

    I'm happy to answer your questions on these scriptures.

    Galatians 5:16 starts off by saying, "This I say then, Walk in the Spirit." That's a Present Tense Imperative. What it is saying is "Be (continually) walking under the influence of God's Spirit." That's actually a command. In Ephesians 5:18, Paul says be not drunk with wine wherein is excess, but be filled with the Spirit. The word filled means influenced. Seek to be influenced by the Spirit. Paul focuses on the influences in our life, the persuasions and the various things that influence us and take us captive.

    Romans 6:12, "Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body." That's easier said than done. But again, it's the sin. Let not the (sin principle) reign in your mortal body. How can he say that? It's because he is leading us into the fact that when we get to Verse 14, where it says that sin shall not lord it over you, that is a factual statement, (not should not, but it cannot). If I sin, it is because I made the choice. But once I'm saved, it's the power of God's Spirit in me that gives me the power over sin.

    Lastly, 1 John 3:6, "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him."

    It sounds like a Christian does not sin according to scriptures. But here's what it's saying: The word abides is a Present Participle, (abiding). Whoever is abiding in Him "is" (Present Tense), not sinning, (continuously as a habit of life). It's not talking about committing an act of sin. It's talking about committing sin continuously, a lifestyle of not surrendering to Christ.

    It's a condition. Whoever is continuously remaining (Abiding/MENO) in Him, does not practice sin, ever!

    As someone who has been born of the Spirit of God, I can never go back and live the old lifestyle I lived before I received Christ. It's impossible!

    The contrast: "Whoever sins, and again that's a Participle. Whoever is (continuously sinning) has not seen Him, neither have they known Him.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Romans 6 - 2 years ago
    Dear Althea, I will pray for you today.

    I pray that your daughter today.

    Heavenly Father, we ask You to deepen Althea's commitment to You through Jesus our Lord. Mature her in Your Word and give her true knowledge of You and Your will. Teach her to interpret Scripture properly and be filled with Your truth daily. Grant Althea sincere desire to draw near to You and to commune with You in prayer and meditating on Your goodness and holiness. Give her a true view of Who You are. Bless her today and every day.

    Father, we lift up Althea's daughter to You today and ask that You will deliver her from drug and alcohol use and whatever else that has control over her. We ask that You soon bring her to salvation. Do not tarry Lord since these abuses endanger her so. Cause this daughter to see that she is in dire need of You and turn her heart to You in faith.

    We ask these things of You, Father, in the name of Your Son, Jesus. Amen.
  • Althea Smith on Romans 6 - 2 years ago
    Staying committed to God and that God Saves my daughter and cleanse her from drugs and alcohol.
  • Texsis - In Reply on Romans 6 - 2 years ago
    Amen, amen and amen.!
  • David T. on Romans 6 - 2 years ago
    Words and Tune: Robert Lowery (1826-1899)

    What can wash away my sin? Nothing but the BLOOD of JESUS!

    What can make me hold again? Nothing but the BLOOD of JESUS!

    OH! Precious is the flow that makes me white as snow. Nothing but the BLOOD of JESUS!

    My GOD is wonderful and gracious unto all who seek and find HIM.

    GOD to shine HIS face and bless greatly for all on this forum. November 18, 2022
  • Adam - In Reply on Acts 24 - 2 years ago
    Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

    Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

    James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

    Luke 12:5

    John 14:15

    James 2:14-26

    Romans 6:1-2

    Hebrews 6:4-6

    1 Timothy 4:1

    2 Peter 2:20-22

    Matthew 12:31-32

    1 Corinthians 15:2-8

    Hebrews 3:12

    Romans 11

    The Bible answers this question quite clearly. Some are trying to use human logic through cherrypicking and misinterpreting a couple verses instead of simply believing God's truth through the whole Bible. Satan wants people to assume they have an insurance policy and license to commit unlimited sin and do whatever they want.

    Does the Bible even say you're instantly "saved" when you start to believe, or does it say that you can have hope of salvation and assurance of salvation if you are a genuine follower until the "end" on the day of judgment? Let's see if the Bible says "now" or in the "end"...

    Matthew 24:13

    "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

    1 Peter 1:5

    - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

    1 Peter 1:13

    "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

    Hebrews 10:36

    "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."
  • Adam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Earl,

    While you didn't directly address the questions, your chosen response indicates you might believe the New Testament isn't literal and are just parables to you, is that correct? You quoted the old testament suggesting that you might think that's literal, however. Do you mind sharing how you came to this belief?

    For the benefit of anyone else reading this there are plenty of verses in the Bible about the literal hell:

    Luke 12:5 - But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

    Matthew 5:22 - But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

    Revelation 14:11 - And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

    2 Thessalonians 1:9 - Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

    Matthew 13:50 - And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    Mark 9:43-48 - And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

    Matthew 25:46 - And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

    Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    etc

    Do you believe Jesus literally is Lord and literally died on the cross for you?
  • GiGi - In Reply on Romans 6 - 2 years ago
    I meant to say that we are sinful. oops
  • GiGi - In Reply on Romans 6 - 2 years ago
    Hello,

    For me, the pure view of holiness for humanity is Jesus in His humanity. He was perfect in every way. We are not as He is, forever sinless. We are sinless. But in Romans 6, Paul speaks to us being freed from the unholiness and unrighteousness of sin and having become slaves to God and His righteousness that we now possess through the imputation of Jesus righteousness into us and the taking away of our sins by His death and resurrection.

    Now being slaves to the ultimate best Master of all, we will no longer desire to serve sin in and with our person, mind, soul, and body. This service whereby we daily put to death the sinful nature with gladness by trusting in Jesus' work on the cross and the Holy Spirit's work in us to make us increasingly like Jesus, we increase in holy living by refusing to sin by easily giving into it before we were saved. We are not to go on sinning, thinking that it doesn't matter because we are saved by grace. No, Paul says, this thought should not even be in us but instead we submit ourselves to the Holy Spirit (God) in us and turn from sin's temptations by the power of grace within us. Grace enables us to say "Yes" to what is godly and holy and "No" to what is sinful and rebellious.

    Believers should have a mind that admits that we still sin, but instead of delighting in it and bragging about it, we hate the sin and are repentant about doing it. We confess our sins, knowing that God does forgive us readily, and we us what ever strength we have of our own to resist sinning. We know that the Holy Spirit strengthens us to do so, but if we truly love God, we will us whatever we have to be obedient and godly. We may have to stop going to certain places or having certain people for companions in order to avoid all types of sinful situations. We may have to employ godly ways to divert our thoughts and actions away from temptations. We are called to live godly lives and to be set apart (holy) for God and His will. Jesus was this way.
  • What is the pure view of holiness on Romans 6 - 2 years ago
    Help us to know
  • Donna - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Susie, I'm praying for you and your husband.

    Lord be merciful and guide this couple to Your will for their lives. I lift them up to You Father. Whatever is needed to bring them closer to living for You.

    Do a mighty work in them and use their lives for Your glory. Bless them and help them in their walk with you. Thank You Lord, in Jesus name I pray, amen.

    John 3:16

    John 8:36

    Romans 2:4

    Romans 6:23

    Luke 7:50

    May God Bless You today Susie

    :-)
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on Romans 6 - 2 years ago
    Father Lord your my touch light and my salvation Amen
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on Romans 6 - 2 years ago
    God i thank you for today and this evening be with me all time Don't let us be established in Jesus Almighty name Amen
  • Fredrick odiwuor abuor on Romans 6 - 2 years ago
    O LORD God father lights my ways to make your own decisions and my slide in Jesus Christ name Amen
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello, Isahi Reyes! If you are not born again, that is, not saved, here is the way to salvation:

    "Paul and Silas's jailer asked them in ACTS 16:30 "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?"

    Their answer was as simple as this in ACTS 16:31 "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved..." Simple as that.

    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13.

    "As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



    "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

    "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



    "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Here are some scriptures in that regard:

    Genesis 5:24, Hebrews 11:5, 1Samuel 15:35, Job 10:21,22, Job 34:22, Job 38:17, Revelation 2:7, Luke 23:33-43, Luke 16:19-31, Psalms 6:5, Psalms 48:14, Psalms 49:14, Ecclesiastes 8:8, Isaiah 38:18, Romans 7, 2Corinthians 7:10,

    Psalms 56:13, Psalms 89:48, Proverbs 10:2, Proverbs 14:27, Ecclesiastes 9:4,

    Psalms 116:15, Proverbs 14:32, Isaiah 9:2, Isaiah 25:8, Hosea 13:14, Luke 18:33, John 8:51, John 5:24, Acts 2:24-27, Romans 5:10-21, Romans 6:2-23, Romans 8, 2Timothy 1:10, 1John 3:14,

    Jeremiah 21:8, Ezekiel 18:31,32, 1Corinthians 15:20-58, Revelation 1:18,

    Hebrews 2:9-18, Revelation 20, Revelation 21,
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Wes gave a wise answer on Christmas. Exodus 23:8, Deuteronomy 16:19, Ecclesiastes 7:7, may The HOLY Spirit teach us. John 14:26

    I love to celebrate Christmas, I really enjoy the lights, the focus on our Savior. The generosity in the season. Christmas is a time of year, people remember more their fellow man, needs & wants of others. Christmas time reminds us of the joys of giving & putting smiles on others faces, teaching by love & kindnesses. Surprising a person with anonymous unexpected gifts, giving hope to people in desperation, food, clothing, volunteering, etc. warms their hearts, body & soul & sometimes gives them hope for a better ' tomorrow '. Christmas is the time of year people are more willing to receive from a Christian.....

    We as Believers have an open door at Christmas unlike any other time of the year, to show the World who Jesus is, who the Church is.

    When we remember those most "forgotten by others" showing them, they are not forgotten by GOD, it's amazing how even those around them are affected.

    Deuteronomy 15:7, Job 5:16, Proverbs 19:4, Psalms 69:33, Proverbs 14:21, 2Corinthians 9:9, Psalms 68:10, Galatians 2:10, Romans 15:26, Psalms 40:17, Proverbs 22:2, Psalms 41:1, Luke 14:13, Psalms 74:21, Proverbs 29:7, Proverbs 28:27, Psalms 112:9, Psalms 82:3, Daniel 4:27, Proverbs 21:13, Proverbs 31:10,20, context Proverbs 31, Proverbs 19:17, Proverbs 19:7, Luke 4:18, Matthew 11:5, Mark 10:21,

    Proverbs 19:6, Esther 9:22, James 1:27,

    This Christmas season we really have a moment to help comfort, our nations with love, giving hope through the WORD, to poor in spirit & helping heal wounds. There is much we can give this year, for those in need. I pray GOD lead us even now, to start the giving season early. Romans 6:23, 2Corinthians 1:4, Proverbs 15:23,

    Psalms 31:24, Ecclesiastes 3:1,
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi James.

    When you say "Old testament law and it's requirements are not applicable more in newtestament the righteousness.

    I wouldn't put it that way by no means.

    Here's Law.

    The fact that "RIGHTEOUSNESS" does not come by the law that doesn't mean the law was abolished.

    And Christ death on the cross did not do away with the law.

    The law condemned man because no one was able to keep the law so all mankind was under the penalty of death.

    Christ took on the penalty and "PAYED THE PRICE". by death on the cross.

    ( Colossians 2:14. Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;)

    The law was the ministration of Death. "And still is"

    2 Corinthians 3:7-16.

    It was to show us our sin and bring us to Christ. Galatians 3:22-28.

    Listen to Paul in Romans 7:7-14.

    Also.

    Galatians 3:13-14 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

    That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

    So since you are justified by faith and made righteous by Christ What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? No! not if you have been freed from bondage.

    For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13

    Romans 6:1-23.

    James 2:18.

    Jesus came to give you a new Heart. A heart of flesh.

    If a person is truly saved he/she would have MORE written on their heart than what's written in the law.

    There's things we don't do is sin also. James 4:17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    God bless.
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Gav, if you are saved, ask God to forgive you of those addictions and the sins you have committed and repent from them--that is, turn away from them with God's help and never take them up again.

    Psalms 139:23, 24 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

    1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    Galatians 5:22-24 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

    Psalm 25:4 Show me thy ways, O LORD; teach me thy paths.

    Now, I would ask: have you been born again? There is no peace without Christ. This is how to be saved:

    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13.

    "As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



    "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

    "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



    "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Monica, below is what the Bible says about being saved. Please do call on His name and be saved and then share your experience with those you know so that they can also be saved from the damnation of hell.

    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13.

    "As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)

    "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

    "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)

    "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)

    God bless you!
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hey Pamela,

    It is about our conscience, it is to be pure, and you will not mess up, your words speak it is on your heart.

    1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

    When we are baptized in water in the name of Jesus the Christ/Messiah we are, Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

    Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    If you choose to be baptized in water you will have no doubt Acts.24:16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and toward men.

    Water baptism is a rehearsal when we go under, we die to sin and when we come up out of that water in a newness of life. It will be just like when we die and are buried, we will rise up out of the earth with an incorruptible new body.

    God bless, go for it, I would love to be there, you will have no regrets or doubt in your conscience you will feel the glow.

    RLW
  • Cindy - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Dawn, no matter what happens, the most important thing for you to do is be born again, because NOTHING else matters. Rich people with everything or poor people with nothing with go to hell without Jesus.

    To be born again:

    "As it is written, 'There is none righteous, no, not one.'" ( Romans 3:10)



    "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." ( Romans 3:23)

    "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." ( Romans 6:23)

    "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." ( Romans 5:8)



    "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." ( Romans 10:13)



    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

    Don't hesitate to ask Jesus to forgive you, repent of your sins--that is, turn away from delibertly commiting sin. And be baptised to show publicly that you have been born again.
  • Manuel - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Texsis, I am happy i can share with you.

    your first question:

    It all about what the Bible says.

    So we have the same punishment for sin. ref Romans 6:23-for the wages of SIN is death... this means sin is sin and it has the same punishment. Remember even in the garden off Eden as Adam and Eve ate of the tree of good and evil God pre warned that the day they eat from that tree they will surely die.

    ."

    James 2:10-11. when we break one part of the law it deemed as breaking the whole law. Death has always been the punishment but we have consequences of our sins. ref: 1 John 5:17 "All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death

    your second question:

    well i haven't come across the exact word you used LIE-MURDERER but 1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

    when you hate your brother you CAN lie about him also.

    i will remember your son in prayers too. Amen
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello,

    1st want to address

    The Earth is The LORD's & the fulness thereof! Psalms 24:1, Daniel 7:13-14, Romans 6:9,

    Dominion GOD gave to mankind. Genesis 1:26,27,28,

    War in Heaven: cast out, Revelation 12:7-17, persecution but not dominion, John 8:42-44, Revelation 20:7-15, Please read all of Chapter for context. Revelation 13, Revelation 20, deceiver like Genesis 3, James 4,

    Psalms 145:1-13, Daniel 4:2,3,34, Daniel 6:26, Ephesians 1:17-23, Ephesians 6:11-18,

    Hopefully these are helpful,

    Please read the WORD, & study
  • Free - In Reply on Matthew 19:23 - 2 years ago
    Dear "Abigail Watts" i see that you have not received a reply for several days. It is correct to understand that only adultery can justify remarriage. If it is important to a person. Now this applies to the husband.

    Join me on a little journey in God's word. Jesus says several times that He is one with the Father, example John 17. Actually, you get your answer there. We are also one with Jesus through the Holy Spirit.

    We have a Father God, (and a husband Jesus). So when we are unmarried, for example, when we meet Jesus we become one with Him as a spouse would become. And we become one with Him if we are married too.

    Now it is the case that Jesus knows all our thoughts and needs of various kinds. Because He Himself has experienced things by being here on earth as a human, right? But the gifts we get by believing in Jesus, i.e. the Holy Spirit, will guide us to the whole truth. John 16:13 and mm. The Holy Spirit should be able to make us strong to stand against all evil, including carnal desire.

    But to cut a long story short. Shall we say that the day we made the choice to follow Jesus we were married to Him. On that day we put away all sin, for sin shall have no more dominion over us. Romans 6:1-11

    Because we have been born again into a sinless human being. Became a lover with Divine love and got to meet the Truth Himself, and receive all the good gifts Lord Jesus gives.

    Now the question is? Are you standing in this first love. Yes, you will be because nothing should be able to separate us from God's love. Romans 8:35-39

    We will always long for Him, have fellowship with Him whom we love, right? Revelation 2:1-7

    I read the word that you refer to as adultery on all sides. The only one who can do right is the one who has become a simpleton. Or the person who has never married, he does not get carnal desire either. And that is good. In marriages of true love, there are never questions or accusations. Jesus will also be there He loves us, i loves u in Christ. John 19
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Psalms 91 - 2 years ago
    Continued from previous.

    What should be asked and a great concern is what should salvation look like in a believer because many shall be deceived.

    First of all shall you continue in sin?

    Paul answers that here in

    Romans 6:1-4.

    We have been REGENERATED, REBORN, Given a new heart and ready to present Christ work through us. Titus 3:4-6.

    We have eternal life now that can bare fruit such as faith ect...

    This is what James is saying in James 2:17-18.

    What James is saying is he's going to show that this gift is in him by his works. You see a Christian is saved UNTO good works. Ephesians 2:10.

    When you are saved, you are baptized into Christ. It is he that works in you. Philippians 2:13.

    Also;

    Philippians 1:6. Being confident of this very thing, THAT HE WHICH HATH BEGUN A GOOD WORK IN YOU WILL PERFORM IT UNTIL THE DAY OF JESUS CHRIST:

    If you can loose your salvation all these scriptures means nothing.

    Here's another scripture often used.

    John 14:15. "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    Well look at the next verse.

    Vs 16. "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, THAT HE MAY ABIDE WITH YOU FOR EVER; This Love is a fruit, so who is causing you to Love Christ? CHRIST SPIRIT, The HG.

    Most people say you can loose your salvation also believes you can earn salvation which you can't do. And if they hold to that it's sad to say but the scripture says they have fallen from Grace. Galatians 5:4.

    I believe this means comes up short.

    Now if you come up short you will hear this. "And then will I profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:23.

    I never knew you can never be told to a believer because of this verse. "My sheep hear my voice,.... AND I KNOW THEM,.... and they follow me: John 10:27.

    Now if a person have habitual sin in their life, Chances are you're not saved. And you can't loose what you don't have.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • Brenda - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Must be born AGAIN of water and Spirit. Jesus is

    not talking about your nature birth/1st birth, but a second birth, which is spiritual, according to his will. The book of Acts is where the birth of New Testament/Jesus church begins, the Lord's disciples show how to do this, are first to obey this: Peter preached this first message to the Jews, later to all/non Jews.

    Acts 2: 38: Repent, be baptized every one of you in

    the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your

    sins(blood Jesus shed is applied/ Hebrews 9:22), and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    All books after Acts are written to the churches that are already born again, as Paul writes:

    Romans 6: 1 - 6. Actually all of chapter 6.
  • D W L on Hebrews 12:1 - 2 years ago
    James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: (This is the word of God - not an opinion)

    Romans 6:15-23 (verse 18) Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

    Galatians 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. (comment-What if you die suddenly while committing one of the above)

    Galatians 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. ( There is a difference in a fault and willful sin)
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Matthew 25:31-46, John 3:15,16,17,18,36, John 6:40,47, Romans 6:22, 2Thessalonians 1, Jude 1, Revelation 20:15, Mark 9:42-48, 2Peter 3, Revelation 14:9-19, Revelation 15:1-4, Revelation 19:20, Revelation 20:10-15, Revelation 21,
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Frank. Just responding to the points you raised.

    a. both Water Baptism and the Lord's Supper are considered ordinances of the Church, as we see both being received & performed by the apostles & the early Church: Acts 2:42; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 10:16-21; 1 Corinthians 11:22-34; Romans 6:3-5; Acts 8:34-38; Acts 16:27-33; 1 Peter 3:20,21; 1 Corinthians 1:14-16. And since these 'ordinances' were never rescinded during the writing of the Scriptures, the Church has continued to observe them, albeit in different ways.

    b. I agree that "being baptized into the Body of Christ is a spiritual baptism not a water baptism"; though both have different meanings. When a person is truly saved by the power of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit resides & takes ownership of this new child of God ( Romans 8:9; 1 Corinthians 12:13; Ephesians 4:5). The believer enters the family of God by the indwelling Spirit: this is Baptism of the Spirit. Whereas, water baptism is simply a public declaration of one's identification with Christ, which should occur very soon after conviction of sin, repentance & faith in Jesus' Sacrifice. Yet, today this order is rarely observed (but that's another matter). Can a person be water baptized, yet not have saving faith? It can happen. Or, can one be endued with the Holy Spirit & not be baptized in water? Most certainly as salvation comes by a Work of God in the heart & not by an act of immersion in water. But water baptism ought to follow as a part of God's saving Work & due diligence from the evangelist.

    c. I don't see that Paul "stopped baptizing altogether". Rather the 1st Corinthians chapter 1 reference you gave speaks about him baptizing only a few, as others seemed unworthy because of their infighting & divisions, but his mission was to preach the Gospel & not be sidetracked with water baptizing, which others could fulfil. So, we would be hard pressed to find clear Scripture that rescinded water baptism for both believing Jew & Gentile.


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