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  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 18 - 2 years ago
    1Thessalonians 5:17, Matthew 6:5-35, Mark 11:24, Luke 6:28, Luke 10:2, Luke 11:1-13, Luke 18:1, Luke 18:1-14, 1Corinthians 11, 1Corinthians 14:14-15, James 5:13-20, Psalms 122:6, Ephesians 6:18, Philippians 4:6, Mark 13, 2Chronicles 7:14, 1Timothy 2:1-6,

    Romans 8:26,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Sebastian:

    Colossians 2:16 Let therefore no man judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a holy day, or of the new moon, or of the SABBATH DAYS:

    Colossians 2:17 Which are a SHADOW of things to come; but the BODY (YOU) are OF CHRIST.

    Hebrews 10:1 For THE LAW having a SHADOW of good things to come ....

    Romans 8:2 For the LAW of the SPIRIT OF LIFE (the TRUE) in Christ Jesus hath made me free from THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH (the shadow).

    Hebrews 4:8 And he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God DID REST the seventh day (the shadow) from all HIS WORKS.

    Hebrews 4:10 And he (YOU) that has ENTERED INTO THAT REST (the TRUE SABBATH), he (YOU) also have ceased from your works, as God did from his.

    Hebrews 4:3 For we which have believed DO ENTER INTO REST (the TRUE SABBATH) ....the WORKS WERE FINISHED from the foundation of the world.

    God spoke ALL THE WORDS before the foundation of the world, then RESTED, those words are being FULFILLED in the ORDER that he SPOKE THEM.

    Christ rested when he finished speaking those words, you DESTINY, that you will be conformed into the IMAGE OF CHRIST, are inside those words spoken before the foundation of the world.

    CEASE FROM YOUR WORKS and enter into the TRUE SABBATH, YOU WILL BE THE IMAGE OF CHRIST.

    1 Corinthians 15:58 ....always abounding in the WORK OF THE LORD (those words spoken before the foundation of the world) ...

    Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this one thing (God's words will be fulfilled), that He (THE WORD) which hath began a good work IN YOU WILL PERFORM IT until the the DAY (you become the IMAGE) of Jesus Christ.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Adalyn Neal on Romans 8 - 2 years ago
    enjoyed reading and the test
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Giannis, I don't know for sure your beliefs, whether man can go to Hell.

    People look at scriptures in light of their beliefs, most often what they have been taught from childhood.

    Those teaching most often were inspired by man's teachings. These teachings are ingrained and VERY HARD TO OVERCOME.

    Mosses and the Prophets is all about the KINGDOM OF GOD.

    When you understand Mosses and the Prophets, the New Testament will align with Mosses and the Prophets.

    The OLD teaches ALL CREATION, at some point (in the coming ages) will be reconciled to God.

    The Old teaches God does things at an appointed time, because the WORDS were spoken before the foundation of the worlds and are being fulfilled in that order.

    The Old is a shadow of the NEW, that GOD CHOOSES certain ones as vessels of mercy and certain ones as vessels of dishonour.

    Those CHOSEN in this age will become Ministering spirits: those not CHOSEN, will lay in the grave UNTIL the RESURRECTION OF JUDGEMENT.

    When God raises those in the graves back to their flesh, Christ and his ministering spirits will JUDGE THEM and bring them to TRUTH.

    Isaiah 5:13 Therefore my people (his creation) have gone into captivity, because they have no KNOWLEDGE .....

    God is solving this problem of NO KNOWLEDGE by giving his creation the MIND OF CHRIST; but in his appointed time, to fulfil the WORDS SPOKEN.

    Isaiah 11:9 ...for the earth SHALL BE FULL OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD .....

    Romans 8:20 For creation was MADE SUBJECT TO VANITY, not willingly .....

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation OF CREATION WAITETH (God's appointed time) for the manifestation of the SONS OF GOD.

    Romans 8:21 For CREATION ITSELF shall be delivered from corruption (the grave) INTO THE GLORIOUS LIBERTY OF THE CHILDREN OF GOD.

    1 Timothy 4:10 Therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN (even those that are saved in the age of judgement), SPECIALLY THOSE WHO (are caused) to BELIEVE.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    James 5:9-20, Matthew 5:44, Matthew 6:5-34, Matthew 14:23, John 17, Romans 8:26, Romans 8, whole chapter, 1Thessalonians 5:17, 1Corinthians 7:13-17,

    James 1:5,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Free - In Reply on John 3:13 - 2 years ago
    Hi dear Jesse, I really miss some Bible verses for what you say.

    God bless u and yours in Jesus Name, love u in Christ Romans 7:1-6 and Romans 8:11
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I strongly believe that those people come to his/her place like Judas. Acts 1:25 I would rather see that this did not happen. We really dont know what chance a human being takes.

    God bless u and yours in Jesus Holy Name, love u in Christ. Romans 7:1-6 ond Romans 8:11
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear grace sister "AE"

    She must make sure and keep herself clean in thoughts words and deeds. Without her, they will be lost. So she need to eat and also receive Spiritual nourishment so that she have something to go on. This is the first, we are not to destroy the temple of God, are we? 1 Corintihans 3:17 And the branch that believes in Him is valuable, as long as the branches bear fruit :) John 15:2

    You have to decide this for yourself, but as far as i know the world, it does us no good! Because then our thought comes to utilization and it seems very worldly.

    The world has no care for me either, it's probably pretty normal and feel that way. But remember Martha and Maria. Martha struggled and i can believe she got quite tired and even exhausted. While Mary received spiritual food. Luke 10:38-42 The best way is the Spiritual, although one must also take worldly chores occasionally, one can always Glorify God in what one does.

    God bless u and yours in Jesus Name, love u in Christ. Romans 7:1-6 and Romans 8:11
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear friend in Jesus. Truth is as it says in Romans 7 and 8 Chapter. Pay special attention to Romans 7: 1-6 and Romans 8: 1-11

    God bless u and yours in Jesus name, love u in Christ.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hello Mac. Btw, I'm not the same Chris who wrote to you much earlier; and also, I think you should have written in your first paragraph, "Saturday is the only day God blessed", in keeping with your belief.

    Those, like yourself, who believe that the Sabbath is the "day God blessed & sanctified", need to also consider some other questions on this matter.

    Questions such as: to whom was this Law (& indeed all Laws), given? What was the purpose of these Laws?

    What is the meaning & requirements of the Sabbath? Was it any more than a rest day, a cessation of all work?

    Is the Church that is formed under the New Covenant, obliged to come under those Laws (this Church which now comprised both saved Jews & Gentiles)?

    When there was an instance in Acts 15:1-31, where the demand for Gentiles to be first circumcised & to keep the Law of Moses to be saved had to be dealt with, what was the response & apostolic decision? I'm sure you know the passage well. Did the apostles ever require the Gentiles, or any new believer, to come under the Mosaic Law?

    If the Old Law only brought condemnation ( 2 Corinthians 3:6-17) & had to be done away with through Christ's Death, how is the Christian now able to know & fulfil the Laws of God?

    If a believer now believes that he needs to keep the Laws & Sabbath in particular, can he condemn another who doesn't & who has understood the liberty Jesus gained for him to obey, to live, to worship God, as the Holy Spirit directs ( Romans 8:1-4; Galatians 5:1-4,18,25)?

    Just a few questions to consider - not expecting answers, but hopefully to direct your mind to the full meaning of the full redemption we now have in Christ Jesus: redemption from sin's penalty & redemption from the Law's curse. We now obey many more Laws of God, more than what was given to the Jews to obey, & we do so from the continual ministry & power of God's Spirit.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    If I were explaining the 'Kingdom of God' to an unsaved person ELB, I wouldn't share Romans 8:38,39 with him, unless he was asking about why a Christian could possibly have such a strong confidence & hope in this God - why a Christian could persevere through difficulties, even persecutions, to be faithful to such a God. Maybe, elements of this chapter could be used in such a situation.

    "Could I also have such a hope & confidence as you have", he asks. I reply, "Most certainly, when you truly repent of your sins & turn to God's Provision of a Sacrifice (found only in His Son Jesus Christ) to deal with those sins & to forgive you entirely. You are then accepted by God, & coming to Him on His Terms, you enter into His family, enjoying His Blessings, with His Spirit in you to give you such a hope & power to live this life & finally enter into His Presence. Then whatever befalls you in this life, you are eternally secure in His Love & nothing - but nothing - can separate you from that Love." Romans 8:35-39.

    If I simply gave an unbeliever this Truth in Romans chapter 8, I should expect to be derided & disdained, for such Truth would be as pearls cast before swine, unappreciated, even meaningless. This whole chapter is for those whose life is in Christ Jesus - whose "life is hid with Christ in God". And this same confidence is kept in store (waiting in hope), that one day the 'groaning in pain of all creation' will cease, when the new heavens & earth will be ushered in. But my unbeliever 'friend' who receives the witness from the Word, can only share in that hope if he repents now & is born again of God's Spirit. If he refuses, the Word stands against him: "For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven."
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Chris, If you were explaining the kingdom to God to someone, and possibly they had never read God's words.

    Perchance you read Romans 8:38-39 to them, would it pertain to them, not being a christian, or is it a TRUTH that brings one to TRUTH.

    God Bless You!
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Well Alex, I see that you believe that Romans 8:38,39 is Paul "addressing the whole world", when the whole chapter is clearly to Christians ONLY. With such an interpretation you give to this & most other Scriptures, there's no more that can be written that could guide you further into the Truth. So I will leave it that Alex; I was hoping that we could have had a meaningful discussion on various verses, but I see you have your own interpretations. GBU.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Louie. Your question is easy to answer, but if one should ask 'how do we know when that re-birth takes place', that would require more details. The time of re-birth, is at the very moment when God sends His Holy Spirit to indwell the repentant sinner. Some might feel sorry for their sins but have no intention to leave them. But when one is truly repentant, calling upon Jesus to save his wretched soul, a wonderful work & transaction is made. Sins are forgiven & removed & the Holy Spirit is given to seal & secure ( Ephesians 1:3-14). His entrance into our lives means that some immediate changes must take place - sometimes more noticeable changes, though most certainly that instant peace with God, joyful assurance of sins forgiven, a hunger for things of God & to start living for Him, etc. This is all the Work of His Spirit, when once that person had no such desires in his heart.

    Romans 8:9,10: "ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness." This is a clear simple verse saying that we don't belong to Christ if His Spirit is not indwelling us (i.e. if we are not born again by His Spirit). Our bodies might be in a state of continual deterioration, but our once dead spirits (God-wards), are now given a new life by the Life-giving Spirit. And when the Spirit is in residence, a continual Divine Work will go on with a hunger for God's Word & knowledge of Him, living to please the Lord, dealing with any sin that comes before us, & receiving Grace & strength for every situation. "if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new": 2 Corinthians 5:17. This is re-birth - only by God's Spirit.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Alex, you quoted 1 Corinthians 15:19. You seem to pick a verse & then apply it to support your belief. Please think again & re-read the passage. Paul is talking about Christians - that they should have their hope set in Christ now & in the promised resurrection. You're applying the verse to all people (saved & lost) which is a wrong understanding & application.

    Exodus 12:27. From this verse, you write that "God accepts everybody simply b/c of the Blood of the Lamb". God "passed over" only those who obeyed God & placed the blood on their doorposts & lintels. The Egyptians suffered because they didn't have the blood there. We have the Blood of Christ upon us & as testimony before the Father & so have "passed from death to life". All who reject the Gospel are like the Egyptians, not having the Blood, & the Lord will not hold them guiltless.

    Romans 8:38,39. Paul is writing about Christians being totally secure in Christ - not that unbelievers will be secured by God even in judgement. You can't apply verses speaking about believers & then force them to apply to the unsaved.

    All the Scriptures you've given with your peculiar interpretation are completely flawed. Please read them in the context that they're given & not what you want to them to say.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    This is a fascinating thing. I heard a sermon one time saying the words spoken about "if someone sees the face of GOD they cannot live" he said "they cannot live, the same" Is this the question you're looking deeper into? Genesis 32:20,30, Exodus 33:11, Exodus 34:28-30,35,

    It would be very interesting to do a study on the words. Exodus 3:6, Exodus 33:20,23, Numbers 6:25, Deuteronomy 5:1-5, Deuteronomy 31:17,18, Deuteronomy 32:20, Deuteronomy 34:10, Judges 6:22, 1Kings 13:6, 1Chronicles 16:11, 2Chronicles 7:14, 2Chronicles 30:9, Psalms 13:1, Psalms 17:5, Psalms 22:24, Psalms 105:4, Isaiah 54:8, Isaiah 59:2, Jeremiah 21:10, Ezekiel 20:35,

    Perhaps it's the word "man" that the emphasise is. Romans 8:14, Galatians 4:6, Hebrews 12:7, John 1:12, Philippians 2:15, 1John 3:1,2 , 1John 4:15, How sad it is when a living father says "see his face no more" or turns his face.

    Genesis 3:8-10, interestingly, in this translation it says they heard "the voice of the LORD" they "hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God"

    What's amazing is: Genesis 4:16, it appears even though they were cast out of the garden GOD's presence was still with them.

    Psalms 139, Job 4:15,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 9 - 2 years ago
    Vain repetitions: There are those who would be Pharasitical that repeat a phrase; or mantra somehow trying to impress men or God with their petitions. Clearly; there is precident as with the persistent widow ( Luke 18:1) to pray without ceasing ( 1 Thess. 5:16-18).

    It should be acknowledged on our part that some prayers are answered after only one request; in fact divine occurances can occur without anyone present (as far as we know) have offered up any prayer. It is He; Christ Himself who "ever intercedes" for us ( Heb. 7:25 and other passages). We; therefore should seek to worship in the Spirit; in accordance with His will. This is accomplished through knowledge of the living Word; and often is shown scripturally to be in agreement with the covenants and promises already established by God.

    There are generally thought to be 3 ways God responds to a prayer request; namely no; not yet; or yes. The bigger problem is not why a specific prayer seems to be unmet or not responded to; but HOW God is speaking to us regarding a matter. We often focus on the result or effect of an inner problem as shown in external actions; or behaviors. We tend not to see how the Lord is using a difficulty for either our edification or that of the individual lifted up in prayer. This; of course may be wisdom that takes time to appear. If someone is a mature believer; then they are more likely to request something based on better understanding of the ways of God working in their lives. All things work out for the good for those who love God ( Romans 8:28). Our prayers for unsaved people should always be centered on their need for repentance; not ignoring their other needs.

    There is actually no Bible verse where we are asked to pray for an individual to be saved; thus a strong indication of God's sovereignty in the doctrine of election.

    Hopefully; in all this when there are things we can do for someone in need; we can take action to be an answer to prayer( James 2:16).
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hey Debbie B.

    There may be several opinions on this, but does the bible tell us where He was? Jesus said He would be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth, Matthew 12:40. And He said He would be killed, and after three days rise again, Mark 8:31. One theory starts with 1 Peter 3:18-22. Looking at the context of the chapter it is about doing good and refraining from evil and it is good to suffer for righteousness to have a clean conscience.

    If we look at these verses Jesus was put to death in the flesh but quickened by the Spirit. Jesus was raised from the dead in a glorified body and the same Spirit of Him that raised Jesus will raise those who have Christ in them Romans 8:10-11.

    Jesus went and preached to spirits in prison who were disobedient in the days of Noah. As far as I know nowhere in scripture is man or saints called spirits, or the dead be in prison, I may be wrong. Why would Jesus only be preaching to those before the flood? The only ones I know that scripture says are in prison in chains of darkness are the angels who left their first estate 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6. In the verses, there is nothing to indicate a time frame in which Jesus did this.

    My understanding is Jesus was in the grave/tomb until His Father raised Him on the day of the Feast of First Fruits on the first day of the week before the sun came up. There is more scripture like Ephesians 4:8-10 that you can study for your understanding, keep in context of the entire chapter with an open mind and led by the Holy Spirit.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Roman, you are right:

    1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

    Most problem is they think man has to be saved in this age of grace, when scripture teaches most will be saved in the age of judgement.

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth (in the grave) for the manifestation of the sons of God.

    Romans 8:21 For the creature itself SHALL BE DELIVERED into the glorious liberty of the CHILDREN OF GOD.

    This happens when Christ has gathered his elect in this age of grace and returns, in the age of judgement, to judge the world.

    Isaiah 26:9 ....when thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

    GBU
  • Carlos M Silva on Romans 8 - 2 years ago
    Lord there isn't a thing in this world that could ever come in between our Love! You have showed me the way, and I promise you as a loyal servant; I shall spread your word with nothing but the upmost humility. Thank you Jesus for leading the way!

    Amen

  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Ben: Does Christ blood COVER only SOME or does it COVER ALL.

    Psalms 22:27 And all the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

    There are going to remember when they are resurrected back to their flesh and judged by Christ and his ELECT.

    Isaiah 26:9 ....for when thy judgements are in the earth; the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.

    Christ judgements are not yet in the earth:

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature (creation) waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of GOD.

    Romans 8:21 For the creature (creation) ITSELF also SHALL BE DELIVERED into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth MY WORKS until the end, to him will I give power over the nation:

    Revelation 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessel of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL THINGS SHALL BE SUBDUED UNTO HIM (at judgement), then shall the son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that GOD (SPIRIT, LIFE, TRUTH) may be ALL IN ALL.

    1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we believe in the living God, who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN (even those saved at judgement), especially those that believe (during the age of grace).

    GBU as we come to the TRUTH of God's words.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Not in Bible scripture however, I feel the idea in many ways is: Psalms 37, 2Corinthians 4, Noteably 2Corinthians 4:16,17, 1Peter 4:7,12,13, 1Peter 4:17-19, 2Timothy 2:3, Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13, 2Thessalonians 1, Psalms 30:5, James 5:10-11, Psalms 62:5, Proverbs 20:22,

    Romans 8:24-39

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Jernej. I was sad to read of your problem with your job & your parents. This is a matter for you to decide on as you have to stay true to your beliefs & convictions.

    For me, as a Christian under the New Testament pattern, I don't believe that the Sabbath given to Israel to keep, is binding on believers in Christ today. You're correct that Sabbath is Saturday (7th day), a day of compulsory rest given to Israel. If I were a Jew wanting to follow the Ten Commandments to the letter to be right with God, then to keep the Sabbath holy would be a must for me. But I am in Christ, Who has freed me (& to all who call upon His Name) from the bindings of the old Law which only brought condemnation & death: Romans 8:1-4. Christ fulfilled the Law perfectly by His Sacrifice, putting aside the Law that killed, & giving us His Spirit Who gives us new life.

    For me, I now seek to obey the Holy Spirit in every area of my life, desiring to obey ALL the Commandments of God as He requires of me; & these Commandments are much much more than Ten. So now my 'Rest' is not on any particular day - my 'Rest' is in Jesus Christ (i.e. I have peace/rest in my heart every day of the week). A rest day from doing hard work is important for all people so that our bodies & minds can relax & focus on other things, but to be forced to keep Saturday as a holy day, when it doesn't apply to the Christian (or, gentiles), only puts you back under the old Law - a Law which was never given to us nor applies to us.

    Also see Hebrews 4:1-11: a physical rest for Israel from their bondage & wanderings (as written in Joshua), & though this has nothing to do with Sabbath rest, it shows that there is complete rest in Jesus - living under Grace & not by works of the Law (verse 10).

    I know some Christians believe in keeping the Sabbath, so if you still want to do so, then it's a matter between you & the Lord, & you will have to decide which one to follow. You will need to trust God to get you the right job.
  • T Levis - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4 - 2 years ago
    Responding to ELB,

    1John 4:1-20,

    Genesis 41:8, Genesis 45:27, Exodus 6:9, Exodus 28:3, Exodus 35:12, Numbers 14:24, Deuteronomy 2:30, Deuteronomy 34:9, Joshua 5:1, Proverbs 18:14, Ezekiel 1:20, Romans 8:14-16, Haggi 1:14,

    Isaiah 11:2,

    Leviticus 20:27, Numbers 5:14,30,

    Numbers 11:17,25,

    Judges 9:23,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Sam - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Please God hear this prayer request by Yhamile and myself over her marriage. I pray her husband have spiritual clarity and has personal relationship with you. You know the root cause of their martial problem. Please help both of them to focus on You Lord Jesus Christ that Your peace and love guide them to persevere through this. I pray the inferences by the devil be broken and Your Light will shine on both of them that they be a testimony for you I pray in Jesus Christ name.

    Please reflect on Psalms 51, James 1:2-4, Exodus 33:14 and Romans 8:38-39.
  • Daniel Lindenbaum - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Continued...

    The word "perfect" (teleion) is an adjective here used as a noun. It is in the NEUTER gender. If "perfect" were referring to a person, it would be masculine or feminine. Since it is in the neuter gender, it is not referring to a person, but an object-the completed Word of God.

    Now, if it also helps there a vast difference in the way the Apostle Paul explains tongues 1st Corinthians from what's read in Acts.

    Nowhere in Acts do you find the term "Baptism of the Holy Ghost" in connection with speaking in tongues.

    The baptism of the Holy Ghost is related to salvation and not tongues ( 1st Corinthians 12:13).

    There is NO command in the Bible to speak with unknown tongues.

    A person who does not have the Holy Spirit is not saved ( Romans 8:9 and 1st John 4:13).

    A wicked generation seeks a sign ( Matthew 12:39).

    The tongues movement of today is NOT Acts 2 tongues, but the CARNAL tongues of 1st Corinthians.

    The tongues of the Bible (in both Acts and 1 Corinthians) were always understandable, known, established, earthly, languages; not indiscernible sounds and utterances as used by the Charismatic Movement today in modern times.

    God always initiated the miracle of tongues in the Bible, not men ( Acts 2 and 10). In sharp contrast, men initiate the false tongues spoken in Pentecostal churches today.

    The gift of tongues in 1st Corinthians was simply the usage of known languages, which some didn't understand, so Paul told them not to speak in foreign languages in multi-lingual congregations unless an interpreter is present. Notice that the gift of tongues in 1st Corinthians is different than the miracle of tongues in Acts 2. In Acts 2 Peter spoke in Greek, but at least 16 different nations heard each man in his own language.

    If it helps...I speak in tongues daily but they're the tongues from 1st Corinthians. How? I'm multilingual. I speak English (primary), Spanish, Portuguese and Italian. Tongues meaning languages -- I speak more than one.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi SimonPeter Masya. The apostle deals with a number of subjects in this chapter, beginning with how the Christian is to live in this world, i.e. not giving in to fleshly desires but living in the power of the Holy Spirit.

    Then in verse 17, Paul moves from our special position as the "heirs of God & joint-heirs of Christ", into the area of Suffering. As Jesus said in John 16:33, we will have tribulation (sufferings) & persecutions ( John 15:20) in the world, the apostle now gives another dimension of these truths. He says that as Christ suffered & was glorified, so the promise is to us also ( Romans 8:17). In fact, our sufferings are temporal compared to the (eternal) glory which will be revealed in us. So, this matter of suffering doesn't come to Christians only, but all of creation is affected. All of God's creation of living things & the inanimate (of weather, earth's natural materiel, rocks & mountains, oceans, etc.), also suffer because of the corrupting effects of sin & the presence of Satan & his works that go on ceaselessly.

    Therefore, all creation waits for the "deliverance from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God; groaning in pain" ( Romans 8:21,22). And not only those, but also believers are waiting for "the adoption, that is, the redemption of the body" ( Romans 8:23). As humans, we have never known what this world & life itself would be, a world without sin & its corrupting work - we only know that there are good times & bad times, of pain & sorrow & also joy, of life & of death - & we think this as a normal existence. But when we're taken away (our completed redemption), all the limitations & sufferings of life will be gone & our existence will be in a perfect state. We have a taste of that now with the Holy Spirit in the believer helping us to live beyond the tragedies in the world, but the day will come when all will be perfect, sin no longer having its grip. This was Paul's message of hope for every child of God.
  • Marke - In Reply - 2 years ago
    In reference to Romans 8:22-23

    Christians are given a new spirit and nature when they are saved and that nature is a union of our spirit with the Spirit of God. But we also remain in earthly bodies that struggle with sin and sorrows, causing us to yearn for the day we will be delivered from our earthly bodies and given new sinless bodies to dwell in sinless heaven with God.
  • SIMONPETER MASYA - 2 years ago
    What does the scriptures in Romans 8:22-23 mean?
  • Anna - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hebrews 7:25 kjv, Hebrews 4:15-16, Hebrews 13:8,

    Colossians 4:2, Ephesians 3:20-21, Romans 8:26-28,

    Psalm 57 kjv.


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