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  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 1 - 3 years ago
    Here are several scriptures I hope answer your questions

    * Psalms 139,

    Genesis 3:8, Genesis 4:16, Jonah 1:3, 2 Corinthians 3:17, Psalms 95:2, Psalms 16:11,

    Deuteronomy 11:10-13, Leviticus 22:3, Psalms 114:7, Psalms 68:8, Psalms 97:5, Romans 8:16, 1 Kings 9:3, 2 Chronicles 2:16-19, Job 10:4, Psalms 11:4, Psalms 34:15, Psalms 145:14-16, Proverbs 5:21, Proverbs 15:3, Hebrews 4:11-14, 1 Peter 3:12, Ecclesiasticus 15:19, Ecclesiasticus 17:15,19, Ecclesiasticus 34:16, Ecclesiasticus 39:19,

    Hebrews 9:24,

    Jude 1:24,

    Revelation 19:6,
  • Adam - In Reply on Psalms 95 - 3 years ago
    Hi Khalif,

    I don't have a good answer for your question, but can talk generally about living as a Christian.

    As Christians we aren't promised a problem-free life. The Bible says will actually be harder for us due to persecution, etc.

    Some Christians assume Romans 8:28 means they deserve or are entitled to a privileged life. Some like Osteen preach this on TV which is a false teaching in my opinion. Some people are told if they're not living in sin they will get free goodies/rewards from God, like money, possessions, health, good relationships, etc. It's really a self centered immature and distorted perspective. God isn't a genie in a lamp here to serve us. If anything its the opposite- we exist at the pleasure of God and to serve Him.

    Paul was shipwrecked, beaten, chased, in prison, you name it, but was one the most prominent Christian evangelists. He was persecuted and had a rough life, not a prosperity-gospel type life full of 'abundance' in this world. But Paul said he found the secret of contentment. Have you read that before? Here's a guy you would assume would be very depressed and discouraged, but he wasn't. He cracked the code. We don't need to fill ourselves with outside things to make us feel whole, but can be content as we are. God is the strength in our weakness and can make up the difference. So, in terms of managing frustration, maybe reading more about Paul may help: Philippians 4:10-13.

    As far as relationships, some I know seemed to find partners when young like a God-arranged divine event. But others I know have been single their whole lives. Each pray and are serious about their walk with God.

    God bless...
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Krystin,

    I am sure you will get different replies on this, my understanding is close to what is in your post. Soul and spirit are two different words but seem to think of being the same and are hard to separate in our mind. What happens to these when we die there are different understandings, does the soul sleep in the earth with the body, or is it immortal and go to two different places?

    The word soul in Hebrew is nephesh meaning a soul, living being, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, emotion. The Greek word psuche meaning the soul, life, self, a person's distinct identity.

    The word spirit, the Bible writers used the Hebrew word ruach meaning breath, wind, spirit, or the Greek word pneuma also meaning wind, breath, spirit, when writing about the spirit.

    Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    The spirit goes back to God Ecclesiastes 12:7

    The Holy Spirit seals us until when? Ephesians 4:30

    We are buried mortal, dead, in corruption and we are raised immortal incorruptible 1 Corinthians 15:42-44

    All consciousness ends when we die. Psalm 6:5 Job 14:12-14 Job 17:13-16 Psalm 89:48 Psalm 115:17 Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

    We sleep in the dust until resurrection day, the day of redemption. 1 Corinthians 15:51 1 Thessalonians 4:14 1 Corinthians 15:52-54

    God raised Jesus from the dead after three days and three nights, so, Romans 8:1 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

    Have not found any scripture that says we or our soul or spirit is immortal, may someone else provide it if it is in the bible.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Donna G.Warren on Romans 8 - 3 years ago
    No matter what trials & tribulations we experience ,God is ALWAYS WITH us ! Blessings can come from adversity .Bad & sad times can only make us stronger to face whatever comes our way . We learn from these experiences .Yes , we make mistakes ,errors of judgement ,try & fail in spite of our best efforts. When we get to the other side of these experiences ,we are stronger . It's easier after the fact to see that God is always with us every step of the way. Have faith ,pray always, study the Bible !The Bible is our guide. Some lessons are learned the hard way as we can be stubborn. Being stubborn is not always a character flaw as it means we don't give up easy.Blessed be the ties that bind us together with & for God. God bless everyone!
  • Gail Engdahl on Romans 8 - 3 years ago
    Read Romans 12.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Romans 8:8, Luke 1:37, Mark 10:27,

    Romans 8:1-16, *
  • GiGi - In Reply on Romans 8:38 - 3 years ago
    Hi,

    I am not sure what you are really asking here. Can you rephrase your question to us, please?

    God Bless
  • T. Le - In Reply on Luke 1 - 3 years ago
    The Holy Spirit did exist & manifest itself in people prior. Genesis 1:2, Genesis 6:3, Genesis 41:38, Judges 3:10, Judges 6:3, Judges 11:29, 1 Samuel 11:6-7, 1 Samuel 16:13, 2 Kings 2:9,

    1 Samuel 16:14, 1 Samuel 19:20,

    There are more references. Here are some more study references. Hope this helps.

    appears to be different in the manifestation unto many people at the same time with many events occurring.

    Also people being able to transfer the HOLY Spirit to another seems to appear after CHRIST was resurrected from death & the grave. Acts 1, Acts 9:17,31, Acts 10:44, Acts 11:15,16, Acts 13:52, Acts 19:1-11,

    Ephesians 5:9, Galatians 3:14, Romans 8:1,

    Please read the WORD of GOD,
  • Bethann Keck on Romans 8:38 - 3 years ago
    I just interesting about what Bible verses about " Star" and as like Star is the King- JESUS Also I just learning more about stars and many things as God Creators .. Bible verses are so TRUTH and beautiful verse
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi "Failure". The Scriptures are clear about believers in Christ no longer walking in the lusts of the flesh but walking (receptive, in harmony) with the Spirit in you ( Galatians 5:16,17: "Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would"; Romans 8:13,14).

    When we live in the flesh, i.e. leading lives that are habitually given over to sin, unconcerned about dealing with it by the power of the Holy Spirit, then we would be right in questioning the genuineness of our faith & love for God. But the battle is always on: the lusts of the flesh vs the desires to live to please God. When we're fully convinced that we'd rather live for God & not for sin & seeking the help & power of the Spirit, then His Power will be greater than our weakness. The fact that we do sin now, is simply because we enjoy the sin or want to pursue it. If we remain guarded, very rarely will sin overtake us suddenly, especially in the more overt sins that involve others. Even drunkenness, gluttony, gossip, lying, pride, etc. are all sins that we might want to do & hold dear to us & our make-up. But when we hate those sins, we will seek to take hold of the Spirit to combat them & more so, when we see the sin knocking at our door. The Spirit is there to empower us - to withstand the temptation to give in. We can also overcome that sin by pursuing another course, e.g. move away from that situation or person, replace the temptation with something good/wholesome, going straight into the Word & prayer. The Lord is always there - it's our choice to whom we appeal to: to fleshly desires or to the spirit ( Romans 6:16-23).

    Hebrews 10:26. If you read the whole chapter, the sin being spoken of is about those from Judaism who want to appeal to the old sacrifices instead of Christ's Sacrifice (v29) - it doesn't work - that's sin.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} God's ETERNAL Spirit - In Reply on James 4 - 3 years ago
    Precious Terrt, Since CHRIST Only 'Died ONCE,' there is No Need to "Call on The Name Of The LORD" 'over and over and over again And again' for ETERNAL Life. Neither is there a 'yo-yo (saved/lost/saved/lost to infinity)' salvation in HIS Holy Word Of Truth!

    EVERY 'True believer' who has obeyed God's Gospel Of GRACE Today, 'Has Received HIS ETERNAL Holy Spirit!' And, furthermore, ALL (whether faithful or UNfaithful) in "The Body Of CHRIST" Will Depart To Heaven, When This Age of GRACE ends!

    God's HOLY Scripture (not 'men's opinions') IS Very Plain And Clear!!

    "...Now if any man have not the Spirit of CHRIST, he is none of His." Romans 8:9 b

    Precious Terrt, for ONE-Time Salvation From God, and 'receiving HIS Spirit,' see God's 'Simple' Will: Link

    (Rather than 'men's Discouraging opinions'), Precious Terrt, Please Be 'Richly' Encouraged In CHRIST, And, In HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!

    Prophecy vs MYSTERY: Link

    Great GRACE Departure: Link

    Precious Terrt, will be praying for you And your family...
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Georganna.

    I've prayed for you, And hopefully someone can give you great spiritual guidance and comfort in addition to what I'm about to share.

    There's scriptures comes to mind such as

    Romans 8:28.

    Philippians 4:6-7.

    We never give up on he who never sleep nor slumber!

    Continue in prayer. Listen to Paul here in

    2 Corinthians 12:9.

    Hopefully others can help.

    May God bless you and your family.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    John 1:12,

    John 17:1-26,

    Romans 8:14,

    1 John 1:1-2,

    Hopefully that is helpful
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother David:

    Did Satan deceive Christ when he tempted Christ; NO, because he had spiritual KNOWLEDGE.

    Eve was deceived because she had no spiritual KNOWLEDGE, if she would have had that KNOWLEDGE she would have been like Christ and would not have been deceived.

    Romans 8:20 It's God's word that says, MAN WAS MADE SUBJECT TO VANITY ......

    1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceive, but the WOMAN being deceived was in the transgression.

    1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding the WOMAN shall be saved in CHILDBEARING ...

    Revelation 12:1 And I saw a great wonder in heaven, A WOMAN......

    Revelation 12:2 And she being with child (the new man created IN CHRIST) cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

    We are the WOMAN, whether we be male or female, and we are going to deliver a new creation in the likeness of Christ, the Father of that new creation.

    Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy Spirit, they are CREATED, and thou RENEWEST the face of the earth.

    Revelation 21:1 And I saw a NEW heaven and A NEW earth: for the first (old) were passed away ......

    God Bless You.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother David:

    Eve wasn't spiritually perfect.

    Romans 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly .....

    Anyone made subject to vanity is not spiritually perfect, you and I were made subject to vanity, that's why we are deceived and sin.

    That's why Eve sinned.

    That's why God didn't put the blame on ADAM, he made Eve that way, subject to being deceived, we today are subject to being deceived, because we are born of woman. Christ, through his death and resurrection, provided a way to become spiritually perfect.

    Genesis 5:2 MALE and FEMALE created he them, and bless them, and called THEIR NAME ADAM, the DAY THEY WERE CREATED.

    1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in ADAM all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

    1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man ADAM was made a living soul; the last ADAM a quickening Spirit.

    1 Timothy 1:14 And ADAM was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

    May God Bless You.
  • Chris - In Reply on Colossians 2 - 3 years ago
    Hello William. You wrote, "We are called to obey God not to be saved but because we love God and want to please Him." I believe that to be able to truly love God & desire to please Him with our lives, must first require that we accept His Offer of Salvation - i.e. to be saved. If we're not saved through Christ's Blood, how is it possible to truly love God & please Him? History has shown that Israel tried to do this, to love God & please Him being given all the Laws to enable that to happen, even with God's pleadings by the mouths of the prophets. And you know what resulted from all that: they did not succeed, nor was God pleased with their efforts & they suffered.

    But under the New Covenant, we read, "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." ( Romans 8:3,4). Would you agree that it's the "righteousness of God's Law" within us by His Spirit that now makes us acceptable to the Father? Though I might write to you as one of those "minister wolves", I do so, not to antagonize or condemn, but for consideration of the greater worth of the New Covenant in Christ's Blood over the Old Law that failed because of man's inability to keep it. Anyone who wants to observe the Law to the letter to please God, will always fail & Christ's shed Blood has no efficacy towards his quest. But if any realize that there can be no salvation (& pleasing God) by Law observance, will find the liberty in Christ & the power of His Spirit, to fully meet the righteous requirements of God's Law written in our hearts. If & when we fail (sin), we know that we can find forgiveness, unlike the Jew who was severely punished. "Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage." ( Galatians 5:1).
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    To continue._..

    Sorry I realize without follow-up, 1st response a little unclear & not finished. The "independant" 3rd party research done about Autism linked to vaccinations, found: the liquid metals within the vacs to inject, [liquid metals like mercury become fluid before 90 at 90 we can remove impurities/other ingredient out of the metal like in simple water bath] [the mercury would sink to the bottom & other ingredient would float] [that's why mercury & other metals have reproductive health warning, because of settling within lowest parts of human body, when abortion occurs, through skin etc.]

    The increase of Autism, increased in States where Vaccination was 'requried' their scientific evidence found it effected "normal' children, beforehand then Autistic after vaccination because certain individuals were not able to absorb the metals.

    Hopefully this is helpful.

    I believe Romans 8:28, Luke 12:12,

    I believe through the experiences I've been through, trained & learned it's for the good of THE BODY of CHRIST. Matthew 10:8,

    Even with that said I am not an "Anti-vaxer" I believe we have the HOLY Spirit to guide us in all things. John 16:13, however we should all have the choice.

    Just because something was helpful, beneficial in the past doesn't mean we should put faith or trust in it now or future. Psalms 118:8, PsalmS 40:40

    The most recent vaccination actually has debate because of worse ingredients (graphite, which have high heat & electrical conductivity) & other very controversial 'evil' ingredients. Psalms 106:36-39

    Proverbs 8:12
  • Maurice j Cusson on Romans 8 - 3 years ago
    In gen 1 v 2 , it states that the spirit (. MOVED ). Upon the waters , head or nickodimus knowledge implies the spirit moved left , then right , north south east west upon the waters, I think not , the word moved means meditate, considered , thought out, . So the spirit of GOD GAVE great thought before verse three , LET ! There be LIGHT !!! Which means LET ME ( GOD ). Be revealed , knowing that when LIGHT is revealed , then darkness is known. Or exposed . Thus the battle has begun. And this was done not of our doing ( being subject ) but HIS WILL . Though this decision brought GOD lots of criticizem , like why does GOD allow so much suffering , HE. Knows that for now this journey seems unfair to us but later on we will see HIS GREAT PLAN , His WILL UNFOLD ! Had GOD NOT reavealed THE LIGHT, ( 1 John , that LIGHT being JESUS ) then genesis verse two would have finished the Bible ! The earth VOID , DARKNESS PREVAILED, We were subject but NOT without HOPE , IN CONCLUSION GOD , though difficult did the righteous decision , Now ALL things work out for the best to all who LOVE (. Kind , patient, long suffering , etc. ). Toward GOD .
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Psalms 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Richard.

    HE'S GOING TO WRITE HIS LAWS ON THEIR HEARTS.

    Jeremiah 31:31. As it reads God is going to make a new covenant with the house of Israel.

    Jeremiah 31:32 The Lord says this new covenant won't be like the old covenant that he gave their fathers, ( On Mount Sinai by Moses. )

    Note: "A Mount that could not be touched"

    Jeremiah 31:33-34. Tell us what the New covenant shall be. And how it will function!!

    "I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts;

    " Not on tables of Stone "

    You see an example of this in

    2 Corinthians 3:3.

    This new covenant is NOT where they were bond to a law in which they could not keep because of the weakness of the flesh.

    See Romans 8:3-4.

    That Covenant and tabernacle was a shadow of the (TRUE) tabernacle.

    ( Hebrews 8:2. A minister of the sanctuary, and of the TRUE tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.)

    See Hebrews 8:1-13.

    See Hebrews 9:1-28.

    See Hebrews 10:8-17.

    THE ENERGY BEHIND THE DESIRE TO KEEPING THE LAW BEHIND THIS COVENANT WASN'T COMMANDMENT,

    This covenant is set in motion and Moved by the Holyspirit. This is an inward action not an outward one.

    This New Covenant is what the Old covenant/Law pointed to.

    Note with both Covenants in view.

    Galatians 4:23-28. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

    Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

    For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

    But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

    For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.

    Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

    God bless.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Rick:

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of CREATION (creation is everything and everyone) WAITETH for the MANIFESTATION of the SONS OF GOD.

    Romans 8:20 For the creature was made SUBJECT to VANITY, not willingly, but by reason of him who has subjected the same in hope,

    Romans 8:21 For the creature itself ALSO shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    These verse say that when all the ELECT of God have been gathered; they, with Christ, will DELIVER creation into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    What do you believe is your purpose, in the kingdom of God here on earth, going to be.

    Revelation 5:10 And hath made us unto OUR GOD kings and priest: and we shall reign (rule and govern) ON THE EARTH.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} prayers for infirmities - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 3 years ago
    Precious friend, Gerry Shaver, I will pray for you; please Be Encouraged In The LORD JESUS CHRIST

    2 Corinthians 12:9 God's Power Of ALL-Sufficient GRACE in our weaknesses and infirmities:

    "PEACE With God," and knowing what good "tribulation worketh in us" Romans 5:1-5

    "For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." Romans 8:18

    The Spirit "helps our infirmities, And Prays For us" Romans 8:26

    The Spirit "Intercedes For us, According To The Will Of God" Romans 8:27

    God Makes "all things Work Together For Good," for HIS Own Romans 8:28

    We are "Predestinated To Be Conformed To The Image Of God's SON" Romans 8:29

    God Helps us "bear our testings" 1 Corinthians 10:13

    We have The Wonderful "Comfort Of God!" 2 Corinthians 1:3-4

    "For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a Far More Exceeding and Eternal Weight of Glory" 2 Corinthians 4:17

    God will "change our vile body" to be "like HIS Glorious Body!" Philippians 3:21

    Amen?

    Conclusion:

    "For our infirmities/sufferings"? Should we not "follow Paul our 'pattern'" 1 Ti 1:16?:

    "And HE Said Unto me, My GRACE Is Sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that The Power of CHRIST may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for CHRIST's Sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong." 2 Corinthians 12:9-10

    Amen? And Amen.

    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,?

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • Tony on Genesis 6 - 3 years ago
    I accidently left off some information from my previous post. I believe that the sons of God were bad spirits that were being banished to earther after an accounting with God. These evil spirits then commandeered souls and spirits at birth of new-borns, thus giving spirits the physical attributes needed to procreate.

    Interestingly, the first verse in Genesis 6 discusses an birth explosion: And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

    The second verse then mentions the sons of God. That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. This seems to support the idea that evil spirits took on natural attributes.

    Just because they are called sons of God does not make them good. Jesus, Son of God was good. Satan, also a son of God, was evil.

    A final note. The sons of God mentioned in the OT are different from the sons of God in the NT. In the NT, we are the sons and children of God. We, natural men, have received the Holy Ghost. Romans 9:14 - For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Here, Paul is talking about us, as natural men. This notion is support later in Romans 8:16 - The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Titus 3 - 3 years ago
    We reflect the image of GOD so we go about with unveiled faces. 2 Corinthians 3:13-14,16,17,18, Romans 8:1-8,10-15, all of Romans 8, Luke 9:23-26, Matthew 16:25-27,

    If you're in USA the Declaration of Independence of The United States of America, The Constitution of The U.S. & every State Constitution including Hawaii, : We The People of the U.S. to be the governing authority. Please read each Preamble!. Furthermore it not only affirms We The People being the Governing authority but that we have a Duty to stand against tyranny & long chain of abuses. The free World depends on it, & for us being given the authority to lead.

    The orgin of a'shot' is protecting our own lives. Matthew 16:25-27, Luke 9:23-26,

    There are documents & whistle blowers exposing aborted child organs used & material that fights against the immune system of man, made by GOD ALMIGHTY in HIS image. Genesis 1:27,

    Colossians 1:13-16 through the blood, (through the blood)

    Psalms 106:36-39
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Hans.

    A conditional covenant is an agreement between two or more parties that requires certain terms to be met. If the terms are met, there will be one kind of result (favorable). If the terms are not met, there will be a different result (unfavorable).

    The case we have here is Abraham had no participation in the oath being made therefore he was not bound to an oath.

    It was the Lord given the promise and it was "HE" who confirmed it with an oath.

    Hebrews 6:13-14.

    Hebrews 6:17.

    It didn't take obedience of the Law to form the Covenant.

    Galatians 3:17-18.

    However I didn't Leave out obedience.

    Here's why and how we obey.

    AND OPERATION OF THE HOLYSPIRIT IN THE NEW COVENANT.

    THE TRUE VINE!

    John 151:17.

    Ps. You are not expected to bare fruit until AFTER you are connected to the vine.

    Notice verse 4.

    John 15:4.

    The branch cannot bear fruit of itself!!

    Nor does it produce the fruit!!

    Again. ( YOU CANNOT PRODUCE THE FRUIT ) YOU BEAR IT.!!

    ( 2 Corinthians 3:5. )

    Hebrews 10:16

    Romans 6:6

    Romans 8:10-11.

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - 3 years ago
    UNCONDITIONAL COVENANT TO ABRAHAM.

    This is what is getting covered up by spritualizing certain text.

    And How it relates to us.

    Hebrews 6:13-19 (KJV) For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,

    Saying, SURELY BLESSING I WILL BLESS THEE, and MULTIPLYING I WILL MULTIPLY THEE.

    And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise.

    For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife.

    Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the IMMUTABILITY of his counsel, CONFIRMED IT BY AN OATH:

    That by TWO IMMUTABLE THINGS, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

    Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, BOTH SURE AND STEADFAST, AND WHICH ENTERED INTO THAT "WITHIN THE VEIL;"

    Galatians 4:28. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

    Here's the covenant and Promise between God and Abraham.

    TAKE NOTICE OF WHO IS THE LONE PARTICIPANT IN PERFORMING THE COVENANT.

    Here's Isaac being Promised.

    Genesis 15:4-5.

    Abraham's participation.

    Genesis 15:6.

    Here's the covenant performed.

    Genesis 15:8-11.

    NOTICE WHAT GOD DOES TO ABRAHAM.

    Genesis 15:12.

    This covenant being instituted by God only suggests its faithfulness depended on Gods PROMISE NOT ABRAHAM'S FAITHFULNESS!!

    Abraham faith was in God's PROMISE!!

    That's Mercy, Grace, and Faith apart from works. And Eternal Security all in view here.

    Galatians 4:28. !!

    Galatians 3:8-9.

    Galatians 3:13-15.

    THE PROMISE OF A SAVIOR GIVEN BEFORE THE INSTITUTION OF THE MINISTRATION OF DEATH!!

    Galatians 3:16-17.

    2 Corinthians 3.

    Galatians 3:18.

    THE TRUE VINE!

    AND OPERATION OF THE HOLYSPIRIT IN THE NEW COVENANT.

    Hebrews 10:16.

    Romans 6:6.

    Romans 8:10-11.

    ( 2 Corinthians 3:5. )

    This is what's being attacked by those crept in from unawares.

    God bless.
  • We are not under Condemnation - In Reply - 3 years ago
    ROMANS 7 (the "I" chapter).count how many times Paul said "I". He was really stressing about the flesh

    "23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

    24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

    25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

    ROMANS 8:1 [ THE GOOD NEWS]

    1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

    When Paul arrived at Romans 8:1 he discovered victory in and through, Jesus; by the indwelling Holy Spirit. Happiness through reverence is wonderful.

    Mishael
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Ezekiel 2 - 3 years ago
    Hello James Carlson, that's powerful. People suffer much from lies & much from believing lies. Your comment, speaks deeper into devastating "news" heard, effects from it. With wisdom you were shown this, insightful. I think it was a revelation to you personally & others that have been devastated by lies. The toll it can take on a person. However I agree with Chris, I think I would go further to say I think many loving parents would immediately run to their children to make sure the news was correct, to care for them even in death, cover them & give a proper burial, ect. Job was beyond average as a Parent in that: Job 1:5. He was very concerned for them to be right with GOD, that he would make sacrifice on their behalf. Like Earl, Gi Gi, mentioned, pointing to GOD's bigger picture of GOD's atonement for us through Jesus. That's probably why Job is sometimes called prophetic book. Interesting I hadn't seen that beforehand. Gi Gi, & Sacha have the most perfect point that it is most significant whoes report we believe, in that GOD says nothing shall harm you by any means. Luke 10:19. Knowing all things will work together for good._.._ Romans 8:28-29, Even in disaster & disastrous moments when we believe GOD, HIS WORD, HIS report we will be much better off in every way. Hebrews 12:26-29, we should not be as; Luke 21:26

    Didn't read all comments, hopefully this is encouraging. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts & intellectual insight.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Luke 23:29, Isaiah 54:1, these scriptures exist too. When other women say._..

    Luke 1:25, 1 Samuel 1:6, women have cruelly mocked other women many times over this issue & others.

    Remember GOD justifies Romans 8:33, Psalms 22:24, be encouraged sis

    Proverbs 16:9, Romans 5:1, James 2:22-25,

    However the root argument sometimes stem from situational issues of choice which people may be referring to Genesis 38:6-10, then continued reading Tamar was considered "more righteous" Genesis 38:26, pursuing offspring of her dead husbands lineage, which was significant either in justification, reward or preplanned destiny. Matthew 1:3, Genesis 38:29, she is written in the documentation of Jesus lineage. Hebrews 11,

    Additional scripture

    Act 17:28-29, Malachi 2:15, Isaiah 65:21-24, on their perspective

    I hope this was encouraging & helpful
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Rick, creation was not made spiritually evil, thy were made without KNOWLEDGE.

    Ecclesiastes 3:11 ...also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.

    They had to eat of the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE (of good and evil). And God said, Behold, thy have become like one of us, they must have KNOWLEDGE (of good and evil) to be like God. God made sure they would eat of the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE by making creation subject to vanity.

    Romans 8:20 For the creature was MADE subject to vanity, NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason (PURPOSE) of him who hath subjected the same in hope.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother David, if God cannot create anything that is not pure, why did man sin, if he was pure he wouldn't have sinned.

    He was not pure:

    Romans 8:20 For the creature was MADE SUBJECT TO VANITY...... not pure.


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