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I absolutely love this verse. Next to Romans 8:28 and Ephesians 2:8-10 it is my favorite and says it all.

Why did it seem to anger almighty God when King David tried to do a census of the Jews?

Romans 8:26

Hi Roy.

To add to the truths that Gigi and Roman has shared.

(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.)

Romans 5:13.

But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Romans 7:8-14.

2 Corinthians 3:7-10.

To put it simply, the law is Holy, and man fails to live up to God standard and the law reveals that. When the law came it pronounced every man guilty.

Christ crucifixion and resurrection sanctified us positionally, Ephesians 2:5-6. and practically. Romans 6:1-6. and

Romans 8:11-13.

I hope this helps

God bless.

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Now what about the believer in Christ, whether Jew or Gentile, who makes claim to the Ten Commandments, that we're required to obey them. I perceive that those who say this speak simply about God's Commands given that still have eternal moral & spiritual value to all people for all time. And that is true, for Romans 7:12 says, "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good." There's nothing wrong with the Law - what brings us into error, is our appeal to it & requiring others to be brought under it.

Paul went on in that passage to describe how the Law only showed him the wretched state of his soul - if he was left in that state, he would be doomed. But he saw 'another law (now working) in his members'. The Law that revealed to him his weakness to keep it & being a total failure, was overtaken by another Law of God now working in his mind. He goes on in Romans 8:1,2 to state that now there is no condemnation by God to those who don't "walk after the flesh" (i.e. sin in his members revealed by the Law), but "walk after the Spirit". For it is "the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death"; a new Law that not only replaced the Old that brought death, but also gave power & liberty by the Spirit to fully know & obey God's Holy requirements. And when we fail, then there lies mercy to forgive & restore. Under the old Law, there was no mercy ( Hebrews 10:28).

Who then requires me to obey the letter of the Law for a right standing before God? God certainly doesn't, for I am set free to obey God as His Spirit directs me. Is it only the Ten Commandments or the '613 other commandments' that must apply to me, or maybe the millions of laws that bring out the spirit of the letter, that we might "serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter" ( Romans 7:6)?

Jernej, we are not robots. God gave us free will to do His will or to do evil. You can choose between porn and God's commandments. It is hard, but all things are possible with God. Ask Him to forgive you and mean it by repenting, that is, never doing it again. Immerse yourself in Him by praying, reading His Word, singing, going to church, seeking fellowship with other Christians. When the devil gives you the urge to go back to porn, rebuke him and he will flee. James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Here are other verses that will help you.

--Corinthians 10:5 Take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. Philippians 4:8: Whatever is... true, noble, right, pure, lovely, admirable, excellent and praiseworthy.

-- Romans 8:38,39 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

-- Ps. 56:3 Whenever I am afraid, I will trust in You.

-- Proverbs 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

-- 1 Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

-- Psalms 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

-- Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

-- Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Let this be your aim:

-- Galatians 2:20 - I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

May God bless you!

Hello Bennie. Both 'election' & 'predestination' are never in the power or domain of mankind, but rests entirely in the omniscience & purposes of God. Most don't see much difference between those words as they both denote 'a special selection to receive a specific result'.

But the difference is apparent, where the 'elect' are the specially chosen of God (i.e. of Israel: Romans 11:26-28; and of the Church: Romans 8:33; 1 Peter 1:1,2; Colossians 3:12). And those of the elect (the Church now, as "blindness in part is happened to Israel" ( Romans 11:25), are predestined for a reason: Ephesians 1:11,12, to give praise to God's Glory (in His Love, redemption plan, life in the Spirit; all that Israel failed to grasp. And Ephesians 1:5, predestined to become His adopted children by Jesus Christ's Sacrifice; again that which Israel forfeited by their rejection of their Messiah). Though the day will come, when Israel will re-enter that blessed position when they bow before Jesus ( Romans 11:15-26) & both saved Jew & Gentile will share together as God's family.

I shared the above, though that wasn't your enquiry, as I hope that you might see that both 'election' & 'predestination' is all of God's Work according to His Will & Knowledge. We know that we are blessed in being God's elect & have been assured of adoption into His family, & that happens only after our own humbling before Him & repentance, being drawn to God by His Spirit & then receiving His Spirit into our lives. Israel had every opportunity to truly be God's children & servants, but they never bore His Light to the world, rather lived in spiritual darkness. 2 Timothy 2:19: "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his." God know those who are His - His Seal is upon them, they are the elect. Our knowledge of our election is when the Holy Spirit does His Work in our hearts, confirming His Work of Grace & giving us the assurance of eternal life.

Thanks for that very pertinent response brother S. Spencer. Sabbath in the beginning was essentially a rest day - for Israel - had nothing to do with worship, though it would have been a good occasion for personal reflection. And yet that Law & all Laws were given to not only show God's Righteous Standards, but Israel's inability to fully obey & reach that standard. Hence, the Law could only point everyone to the One Who could keep it perfectly & this was what Israel should have been earnestly seeking. Had they turned to the Law-Giver rather than rejecting Him, they would have understood that the Law, though holy & good, "was weak through the flesh" (it was powerless because our flesh could never meet & fulfil its high demands).

Israel & all mankind were doomed for their failures & sins, but for 'God sending His Own Son in our flesh, AND for sin, condemned sin in the flesh' ( Romans 8:3). "Sin is the transgression of the Law" but Jesus brought judgement to that sin (not to the Law) by meeting its every demand upon Him. So the Law & the sin that is its product, is now rendered useless/uncondemning to those who take hold of Jesus by faith - deriving their righteousness, that is without the Law, through the One Who gives us the victory over sin's judgement & sin's power, that is to say, the Law.

While we live "in Christ Jesus" and "walk after the Spirit" fulfilling the righteousness of the Law ( Romans 8:1,4) based on faith in the One Who abrogated the letter which only kills, how then can we turn to (or, even appeal to) the "weak & beggarly elements" that only have bondage & sin as their end ( Galatians 4:9)? Just a few thoughts here that your comment inspired in me to share.

Hi Karen. I love those verses in Philippians 2:12,13. In my heart, they are very rich in meaning. You're correct that salvation is a free gift - in entirety - we can contribute nothing at all to make our salvation anymore secure or special - in Christ Jesus, God has had His demands for our redemption fully realized & nothing more could be done by Him, & certainly, not by us.

If then salvation is offered freely to all when the sinner comes in repentance & faith, why the need to work out our salvation with fear & trembling? I realize that many 'Christians' have been taught, or they may have come to a wrong understanding, that if salvation is a free gift & secures them entirely, then whatever sin they commit & whatever amount of sin they engage in, will not negate that free gift. But this is a grossly false understanding from Satan, which might even show that an unregenerated spirit still exists within. When that gift is given, the forgiven sinner is so thankful for the burden & consequences of sin being removed. And that forgiven sinner also receives the Promise of the Father, the Gift of the Holy Spirit Who will indwell the child of God ( John 14:17; Romans 8:9). So, now we have a new person; outwardly without change, but inwardly completely renewed by God.

But Satan is never far away to divert our hearts from God, to look to the world & its offerings, & to become less focussed upon the Lord Who saved us & to any emerging sin within. That's why the Apostle Paul & the other apostles, had to continually remind & teach believers of who they are in Christ ( 1 Corinthians 6:19,20) & not lose their focus, becoming distracted. Every believer with God's Spirit in residence will seek to please God in every way & will do so with the power He gives us. As God is in us accomplishing His Purposes in our lives (v13), so then we too must be sensitive to God, bringing forth the fruits of our salvation (i.e. v12: exercising them carefully) to the praise of God & witness to all.

Whenever I am afraid, I will trust in You. Ps. 56:3

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Psalms 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

1 Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Romans 8:28

Hi Mary.

Here is how you define Tabernacle in the Greek by strongs dictionary in

2 Peter 1:14.

Greek:

Transliteration: sknma

Pronunciation: skay'-no-mah

Definition: From G4637; an encampment that is (figuratively) the Temple (as God s residence) the body (as a tenement for the soul): -

It is basically our bodies referred to as a tent. temporary dwelling place for our soul and spirit.

Here in 2 Corinthians 5:2. tabernacle is spelled different in the Greek and have a slightly different meaning.

I have no idea of the significance of the difference.

Maybe we can get some help.

Greek:

Transliteration: sknos

Pronunciation: skay'-nos

Definition: From G4633; a hut or temporary residence that is (figuratively) the human body (as the abode of the spirit): - .

This old body will someday get an upgrade.

Paul makes mention of that in Romans. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. Romans 8:19-23.

I hope this helps.

God bless

Hello Chris,

Good question. Open your heart to GOD ALMIGHTY & allow Jesus CHRIST to be you're savior. The HOLY Spirit will guide you & teach you all truth. John 3:16-17,

Genesis 1:26-28, GOD created, multiple men & women to fill the earth, subdue tak dominion over the fish of the sea, cattle, birds of the air .

Then HE formed Man & breathed Life into him: Genesis 2:7, this is a special account because of the details Genesis 2:8,9,15, interesting that this man was alone, Gen 2:18-24 note: Genesis 4:16, they were already cast out of the garden, Cain left the 'Presence of the LORD'' it appears he left the Holy to dwell with the other men & women in a land called Nod. HOLY means set apart, Gen 4:17, then they built a city & named it. So Nod already existed. Then you have: Genesis 4:23-24 why isn't the killed man mentioned? If it was of the same parents? Therefore proving these are the other men & women Genesis 5:1-2, Genesis 4:26, Enoch the HOLY seed begins to call on GOD, "Son's of GOD" Gen 6:1-6, "Son of GOD" Jesus CHRIST Luke 3:23-38, Enos = Enoch, Romans 8:14.

Please don't believe evil lies. GOD says & our spirit testifys sin & perversion bad: Leviticus 20:17, & GOD doesn't lead us to sin : James 1:12-27, note: James 1:13-14,

Study for yourself & GOD will help you see truth.

John 3:16; John 5:24; John 6:37-40,47; John 10:27-29; Romans 6:23; Romans 8:38,39; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 2:8; Ephesians 4:30; Hebrews 13:5; 1 John 5:11-13; Jude 1:24 - are a few examples, all promising the true child of God that his/her salvation is secure forever.

Yet 1 John 3:7-10 reveals the two-faced 'Christian': having every appearance of serving God, but has sin dominating his life; living carelessly & not carefully.

The devil, is the simple answer the other is God had to redeem the world thru Christ and satan is at war with God until all is redeemed. Some of it is our sins for the wages of sin is death, you reap what you sow, you do bad the bad things things be fulfilled. The other is sin is passed thru the blood and multiplies by each generation. When lucifer rebelled, it set in motion what we are seeing, lack of faith and obedience, and there are measures in God's word that a believer can avoid sickness, diseases, and evil. Ways to be healed, ways to avoid the evils of the world but one has to read, study, and know God's word fully. 2 Corinthians 13:12 Study to show thyself approved unto God rightly dividing the word of truth, fasting and prayer as well. people blame God but it is sin not God, God knows the 1st death is not final thanks to Jesus and that is why it's called sleep and was called sleep before Christ as well. Search suffer, suffering in the search box on the kingjamesbibleonline.org site Paul wrote Romans 8:18

"For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us."

King James Version (KJV)

According to scripture at the end of Revelation (chapter 21 and 22); the heavenly Jerusalem descends to earth; hence it becomes united as one and the same in essence. We have the earlier verses such as 1 Cor. 15:51 about the rapture and Resurrection occurring first; as an escape from the wrath which shall come in the Tribulation; otherwise referred to as "Jacob's Trouble". After this; we have the Millennium period when the heavenly city is suspended above earth (no doubt interacting with earth and moon's gravity). The very real physical changes of mountains being abased; valleys being exalted ( Isaiah 40:4 stated in reverse order) indicates the topographical changes due to this gravitational force; and no doubt Isaiah 66 indicates how the opening to hell will be brought forth to be observed by all which will exist in a peripheral area around the city where at that time there will be the greatest height on earth in heavenly Jerusalem once Christ lands on the Mount of Olives. Eventually; after the Millennium period there is "no more sea" according to Revelation 21:1. The elements which are said to burn up in 2 Peter 3:10-12 show the day of the Lord at it's finale. (It would seem since other verses in Peter state 1000 years are as a day that the Day of the Lord is the period between the Tribulation and the Great White Throne Judgment in its entirety).

In any event; we need to establish the right standing with God in order to enter the Kingdom; namely true faith in Christ now and the resulting indwelling of the Holy Spirit which is the sealing of the down payment as Ephesians and other verses indicate. We have in a sense already died to this world and have gone from death to life if Born Again; because the process of sanctification leads to glorification as a "done deal" ( Romans 8:28-30). There still will probably be a planet where the Heavenly City comes from that may be the whole heaven as it were. We will rule and reign with Christ on earth as well.

Hi Dennis.

Ephesians 6:12.

Just wanted to bring clarity to what I posted and what has been presented. I used 2 Corinthians 4:4. You see the work of Satan that hinders the mind of most of the world.

All the blessings mentioned in the other post is offered to the "whole world" but few will receive it. Mathew 7:13-14.

The Lord is calling a people OUT of the world."His Church" starting with the Apostles who was to be a whiteness but to be separate from the world where Satan is the prince.

Here is just a few scripture references of the Lord and our relationship to the world as we stand.

John 17:9-16.

John 12:31.

1 John 2:15-17.

John 1:6-12.

In Revelation-12:9. Scripture says Satan deceives the whole world. You see by then the church is taken out of the world Gods children Will be with him, They're children of the light. Satan is the ruler of darkness. Ephesians 6:12.

When a person is not born again "Born from above", He is what is called "In the flesh" and that flesh is controlled by principalities, powers, and rulers of darkness. His father is the prince of this world! Satan rules in his heart.

The Lord came to give you a NEW heart and a new spirit as he promised the Jews in Ezekiel 36:26-27.

More references:

Beginning with Luke 4:5-7. Here you see Satan tries to temp Jesus to bypass the cross where he will bruise Satans head and have the final climax in Revelation.

Did you notice, Jesus never refuted satans claim?

This is why Paul stated this in Romans 8:19-22.

This is why Abraham pitched tents looking for a land who's maker is God.

Peter says we are strangers and pilgrims.

When Christ come set up his literal kingdom he will rule with a rod of iron and rule in mans heart.

That has not happened yet.

God bless.

1 Peter 2:20

"For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God."

2 Timothy 3:12

"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."

Romans 8:17

"And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together."

Philippians 1:29

"For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;"

King James Version (KJV)

Here is the verse, 13There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. It is talking about being tempted not being able to stand suffering, but I hope this verse explains it and Let me say this, God's word is where we find shelter you have to read read read it. Philippians 1:29

"For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;"

Romans 8:17

"And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together."

1 Peter 2:20

"For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God."

I pray this helps and if you use the search box and use suffer, suffering you can read more verses and remember Jesus sent the Comforter to us, the Holy ghost to comfort us. I'll being praying for you.

1 Timothy 2:5, Romans 8:34, Hebrews 7:25-26, John 16:23-24, John 14:14, hopefully these are helpful

Hi K; I have read what you wrote, and I must confess, I have very little faith when it comes to transliteration bibles, I prefer the King James or the Septuagint. In the KJB Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? The question from this text is when could the morning stars sing together, knowing that these are the angels, with the sons of God, knowing that these are mankind. Please note Hebrews 1:5 God never calls angels sons of God, first let me say, only a human being can become a son of God, Read Luke 1:38 Adam was a son of God, then compare that statement to John 1:12 only Christians can become sons of God, or compare that to Romans 8:14, only Christians who have matured enough to be led by the Holy Ghost, can become a son of God. Do not allow yourself to be deceived by false teachers or books, like the book of Enoch, which is heresy, stating it rained in the days of Enoch, more than 300 years before it rained in the bible. So I believe Gen. 2:8-9 Angels were created in front of Adam as the metaphorical word, trees. This is explained in Ezekiel 31:8-9

Hi Cassandra. Yes, they most certainly do, if they have recognized Jesus as their Messiah, turned to Him in faith, confessing their sins & being born again of His Spirit. When once they had trusted in keeping the Laws & their special heritage from God to be eternally secure, if they now realize that obedience to the Law, which only brings death, is of absolutely no worth when compared to the obedience to Christ & His Spirit Who gives eternal life, then they like all others who confess Jesus will go to be with the Lord (see Romans 7:9,10; Romans 2:28,29; 2 Corinthians 3:6-8; Romans 8:8-10).

Jews who have recognized Jesus as the true Messiah, often refer to themselves as Messianic Jews: acknowledging that their longed for Messiah has indeed come & first brought salvation & new birth within the sinner (both Jew & Gentile), & then will one day come in Glory to bring salvation from their enemies & a new government raised & governed in righteousness.

Praise the True and living God!

Hello Utibe. The one who has been truly saved & has God's Spirit in them, can never be lost back into Satan's domain. These people will remain faithful to their Lord, suffering all things for His sake, & hating even the smell of sin entering their lives. There are many 'Christians' who faithfully attend a Fellowship, witness to others & give every appearance of being saved, but when adversity comes or even when committing sin isn't all that important, they fall away, turning their backs to the One they once called their Saviour. The Lord knows who belongs to Him; 2 Timothy 2:19, "the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

Here are some Scriptures showing God's Part in saving & securing those who have truly repented & turned from a life of sin - being born again of His Spirit:

John 10:27-29; Ephesians 1:13,14; Ephesians 4:30; 2 Corinthians 5:17; 1 Peter 1:3-5; 1 John 5:13; Romans 8:33-39.

But there is also the other side, where some Scriptures seem to indicate that a Christian can apostatize, such as:

1 Timothy 4:1; 2 Thessalonians 2:3; 2 Peter 2:20-22; Hebrews 3:12.

But the ultimate test of real faith is when our love, even our lives hang in the balance. Will we deny Christ - will we save our lives rather than lose it for Jesus? Many 'Christians' would under examination want to save themselves, yes, even those who attend a Fellowship & follow through with Christian disciplines. We should not have to hear those words in Matthew 7:21-23, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL OF MY FATHER which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Hi Elaine,

I cannot even begin to understand the pain you must feel. I will be praying for you and your husband. I want you to remind you of the hope you have through the Lord Jesus Christ. Revelation 21:4

"And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

We live in a fallen creation because of sin. While we may not understand everything that happens, God wants us to put our trust in Him. God is always faithful, so we can always depend on Him no matter the situation.

God never promises that this life will be easy, but we have hope. Hope through Christ.

Romans 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us."

Elaine, I want you to know that you're not alone. Psalms 46 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.

Seek comfort through the Lord, He loves you and wants to help.

Please let me know if there's anything I could do for you. We are here for you.

Great reply Ronald.

I believe all through the scripture it supports the view the Holyspirit empowers the believer and as the scriptures you pointed out it took the dwelling of the Holyspirit to perform in them to minister under this new covenant. You see it in the life of Peter here in Luke 22:32. When was Peter strengthened and start to perform? It's obvious in scripture after he was empowered. Christ was preaching his death and resurrection, but they couldn't receive it. In Luke 18:31-34. he declared to them what the Prophets has written, and they still couldn't grasp it because it hidden from them.

Also, in John 16:12-14. seems to suggest the same thing. The preaching of the Cross was hidden from their eyes, and it seems Paul is mentioning the same thing throughout his epistles speaking of the natural man. 1 Corinthians 2:7-14.

The Holyspirirt is essential for understand and walk. Once he reveals his truth to us they're written on our hearts it takes him to exercise those truths in us and perfect our walk. we respond to the truth by the power of the Holyspirit, likewise the Apostles.

For it is God which worketh in you both to "will" and to do of his good pleasure. Philippians 2:13.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6:63.

The bible is not like our textbooks in school, what we have here has to be revealed to you, 1 Corinthians 1:18-21.

Also: 1 Corinthians 1:26-31.

You see the Holyspirits power over the flesh in Romans 8:1-14.

You see the Holyspirirt working in us through baptism given us power to cease from sin in Romans 6:1-18.

You see the contrast of the two natures in Romans 7:1-6. and so on. Here we see the contrast of what we had when we were under the law compared to what we have in Christ.

God bless.

God is good all the time. Tribulations in life is part of what we go through as Christians. Many things do not seem fair at times but Romans 8:28 states that all things work together for those that love him. I too also thought that being a Christian was a life of no trials. I was so wrong, I started to think of many faithful servants in scripture that were faced with many trials and GOD always provided them with the wisdom and guidance to be able to go through the trial they were facing. If Jesus himself was persecuted then what makes us sinners not targets. Before accepting Christ in my life I did not have many challenges like I do today. In fact, when I accepted Christ in my life I have faced many obstacles that has made me realize that the enemy will attack us believers more since he knows we know the truth. At the end his plan is to steal, destroy, and kill. We know his end game therefore we know his character never changes! Amen to Jesus for ever and ever!!!!

I like all these. I pray for the Lord to give you His strength.

1 Thessalonians 4:14 - For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so THEM ALSO which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him

John 11:25 - Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Psalms 116:15 - Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints

1 Thessalonians 4:13 - But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

Romans 8:28 - And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Romans 6:23 ..but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Revelation 21:3 - And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

Romans 14:8 - For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, WE ARE the Lord's.

John 11:23 - Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.

Psalms 23:1-6 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. (Read More...)

1 Thessalonians 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 15:51 - Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all SLEEP, but we shall all be changed.

Mishael

Hi Louis.

For anyone to come in the presence of God he has to be perfect, Perhaps this is why no one has come in the presence of God and lived. That is what Christ came to through the work on the cross. Hebrews 10:12-17.

It is the spirit that work in you after conversion. Philippians 2:13. Philippians 1:6.

We are to be in agreement with the spirit and bare the fruit produced by the vine. John 15:1-8.

Anything that is done in the flesh and not through the influence of the spirit is not accepted, Your works will be tried by fire. 1 Corinthians 3:11-17.

That which is done in your own strength lacks the ability and authenticity to please God, but the spirit gives life to this fleshly nature captured in these sinful bodies. Romans 8:5-14.

It is important for a Christian to not attempt to ad to the finish work on the cross. ( We should acknowledge the works we do adds nothing to your salvation, that's been taken care of you can't loose it.)

In our walk we will stumble: 1 John 2:1. 1 John 1:7-10. Let's not loose sight of Philippians 1:6.

God bless.

Dear "Toby Calderon".

Sad to hear that you have contracted a serious illness. We put it on Jesus right away. Romans 8 contains some wonderful words.

And you should know: To escape death, you have only one choice. In peace, i tell you that you must now confess that Jesus is Lord in your life.

Thank Jesus from the bottom of your heart loud and clear! Confess with your mouth at once.

Everyone who reads these words of yours will also lift you up to God in prayer.

Romans 8: 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

Thank You that You Lord have cleansed all the disease in Your Holy Name Jesus Christ. You Are the Majesty Forever. And has borne all our sins on Calvary's cross. Your Holy Blood cleanses us from all the spirit of bondage and the spirit of sickness! Return disease liver and pancreas from Toby Calderon which you came and never return, In the Holy Name of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit binds you in the deepest darkness, forever, Amen in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ. For in Your Name we can invoke salvation and freedom, And ask what we want and we will get it, in His Holy Name Jesus Kristus Amen.

Son's of GOD = 1 John 4:15, Galatians 4:7, 1 John 5:10, Ezra 3:2, Hebrews 12:7, Revelation 21:7, 1 Timothy 1:2, 1 Corinthians 6:2-3,

Jesus CHRIST the MESSIAH referred to the most as Son of GOD. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, etc.

Luke 3:38,

* Romans 8:14, * Hebrews 1:13-14,

I understand "Son's of GOD presented themselves before GOD" to mean= they prayed notice Job 1:5, "offered burnt offerings" then vrs. 6._._._ the accuser came, Revelation 12:10,

Genesis 4:26, Luke 3:38,

Exodus 34:2, Leviticus 14:11, Leviticus 16:28, 1 Samuel 10:19, Daniel 9:18, Luke 2:22, Romans 12:1, Jude 1:24-25,