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Hello Pastor Grant. If you are reading this, what is a good passage for someone who only see the enemy at work and thinks that is God's work. I told him that I hope before his days are over he can be a witness and confess God's work in his life. He was shocked I said that. I told him he is right where the enemy wants him. Fernanda

The book of Romans deals with this. Look at Gods victory at the end of Romans 8

Brother Jesse Tacker, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Hebrews 1:3 Who (Christ) being the brightness of his (the Father's) glory, and the express image of His (the Father's) person, and upholding all things by the word of his (the Father's) power, when he (Christ) by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on High.

Revelation 3:14 ....The beginning of creation....

Christ was the FIRST MAN and he is GOD. The beginning (the first man) and the ending (the last man).

Psalms 82:6 I (God) have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, is it not WRITTEN in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom (CHRIST IN YOU) the word of God came unto; and the scripture cannot be broken;

Christ is CREATING Sons of God; exactly like him, when he is finished we will be gods just as he is.

Romans 8:29 ....To be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son ....

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be IN YOU which was ALSO IN Christ Jesus, who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be EQUAL WITH GOD.

The saints cannot rule and judge the world without being EXACTLY like God.

Isaiah 32:1 Behold a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgement.

Gaudencio, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Romans 8:20 For the creature was made (CREATED) subject to vanity, NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason of HIM who hath subjected the same in HOPE.

God wants Sons and Daughters that are like HIM. He gives us and EXPERIENCE of natural life so we will KNOW GOOD AND EVIL.

Adam and Eve's sin wasn't eating a natural fruit (the tree of THE KNOWLEDGE of good and evil is within us, it's not a natural tree), we were created with a evil heart. With just a little enticement from this heart; that wasn't born of the Spirit, Eve LUSTED.

God TEST every man to bring him to TRUTH. Without ME YOU CAN DO NOTHING. I am your life.

The POWER and LIFE of the Father which lives in the SON was given to him by the Father. The Father then sent HIS SON to recreate all his sons and daughters into THE IMAGE OF GOD. Christ DESTROYS our EVIL heart by TRUTH and MERCY and gives us his HEART(SPIRIT). Everything given to him by the Father HE GIVES TO US.

Man CANNOT BELIEVE this UNTIL:

Philippians 1:29 For unto YOU IT IS GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only TO BELIEVE ON HIM, but to suffer for his sake

James 4:3 You ask, and receive not, because you ask amiss, that you might consume it upon you lusts.

Few ask GOD TO CAUSE THEM TO BELIEVE HIS WORDS.

Few ask to be GIVEN HIS FAITH.

Without HIM we CAN DO NOTHING.

You're right Adam.

If a person truly believes he will bare fruit.

The Holyspirit will sanctify,

Romans 6:1-4 . What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Romans 8:11. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

James 2:20. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

John 15:5. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Matthew 7:17-20. Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

2 Peter 1:20-21. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Isaiah 28:9-10. Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

The Same message is spread throughout the bible. a little here, and a little there.

All scripture should harmonize.

Amen.

Hello.

I believe the question was What are characteristics traits needed to be a prayer warrior today as it relates to prayer?

Not do they exist, and yes we do humble ourselves when we come to the Lord.

and no it's not a special office. Whether you call it prayer warrior or one who prays it's all the same, We pray in the spirit and let the Lords will be done.

James 5:17. Elias was A MAN SUBJECT TO LIKE PASSIONS AS WE ARE, and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain:

A " Prayer warrior " is a man subject to like passions as any one else who prays.

There is no partiality between the two.

That shouldn't be offensive unless you give it some merit.

Anything we do for the Lord has to be done through the Lord,

Any gift we have has to be given by the Lord, and those gifts differ.

Prayer is what we're all asked to do. If you want to call it prayer warriors, then we're all prayer warriors.

You can't get merit for it by attaching warrior to it when you're praying in the spirit.

Romans 8:26. Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

And by the way it haven't been a war in the Bible by God's people that God haven't won himself. In fact if they went to war with out him behind them, they lost!!

God is warrior, we put on the Amour and let him fight the battle.

This is why I mentioned humidity.

God bless.

Hi Willie,

Humility and faith, which is given to believers by the Holyspirit,

and pray with out ceasing.

Not anything we build up to.

What I'm saying YOU HAVE ALL YOU NEED IN YOU TO PERFORM SUCH PRAYER!!!

Romans 8:26-27. Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

it's not a special office.

It's in the verse you mentioned:

James 5:17. ELIAS WAS A MAN SUBJECT TO ( LIKE PASSIONS AS WE ARE,) and he prayed earnestly that it might not rain: and it rained not on the earth by the space of three years and six months.

Sometimes our flesh can take us out of the spirit and we think we can manifest something into motion by a super duper prayer. There's extremes to this that can hinder,

Some think you must eventually speak in tongues

Some must see someone slain in the spirit.

Jude 1:18-20. How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, PRAYING IN THE HOLY GHOST,

GOD BLESS.

Hi Wesley.

I don't believe the Millennium is where the earth is being restored, We do know from the scripture the devil will be chained during that period and loosed again,

This is not where all of creation will be lifted from the curse of sin by Adam.

Romans 8:22. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

We know there will still be sin and death in the Millennium.

I believe the restoration is where we see the new Jerusalem comes down and there's a New Heaven and New Earth.

The devil want be able to go to and from as we see in job.

God bless

Hello Jannelle. This is one of those oft-asked profound questions to which there is no adequate well-informed answer. I think most of us have given this much thought at some point in our Christian walk, so various answers may well be correct.

Even as God has all Power to protect or shield His children from all harm, discomfort & disappointment in life, it seems He often chooses not to do so. Even with the ministry of Jesus to the sick & suffering, or those who died & He raised to life, there was certainly joy amongst them that their life had been restored but does that mean that they didn't have to face struggles, ill-health & calamity the next day? Or, even those in the Church so equipped with the Gift of healing, have certainly restored many to health by the Spirit's Power, yet there was never a complete removal of their other problems that would come to them later on.

So in my understanding, the root cause for our woes is simply because we live in a sin-ravaged corrupt world & living in bodies so affected. Indeed, our spirits might be renewed & refreshed by God's Spirit, & even healing can come to us during that experience & subsequent times in our lives, yet the fact remains, none of us has ever been freed from pain or calamity - Adam & Eve saw to it. And it would be nice if God would wave His Hand over us every time an impending trouble approaches us, but that doesn't happen.

Rather, for the one who has placed his trust in God through His Son, our sufferings, though just as painful as unbelievers might experience, can find a measure of relief, of joy & of perfecting that none else can receive. This is because we are His children - He cares - He gives Grace - He draws us closer to Him - He uses us for others. You can look at these few Scriptures to guide you: Romans 8:18-28; 2 Corinthians 1:3-5; 2 Corinthians 4:16-18; John 16:33; Romans 4:1-5; Philippians 4:11-13. In the midst of our suffering, we can always prove the Lord sufficient & gracious to us.

SONS OF GOD IN NEXT AGE

May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature WAITETH (till the second resurrection) for the manifestation of the Sons of God.

Romans 8:21 For the creature (creation) ITSELF shall BE DELIVERED (in the next age) from the bondage of corruption (death an grave) into the glorious LIBERTY OF THE SONS OF GOD.

Obadiah 1:17 And upon mount Zion SHALL BE DELIVERANCE (in the next age), and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob (sons of God) shall possess their possessions.

Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob (sons of God) shall be a FIRE (created in Christ image and likeness; spiritual fire), and the house of Joseph (sons of God) a FLAME (spiritual fire), and the house of Esau (those resurrected back into their flesh) for stubble (to be burned and destroyed by SPIRITUAL FIRE), and they (sons of God) shall kindle IN THEM (Christ in you)(spiritual fire), and devour them (their flesh); and there shall not be any remaining (flesh; worldliness) of the house of Esau; for the Lord hath SPOKEN IT.

Obadiah 1:21 And SAVIOURS (sons of God now exactly created into Christ image) shall come upon mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; AND THE KINGDOM SHALL BE THE LORD'S.

Brother Earl. I've never thought that "we are Christ's garments". I've always understood that Christ is our garment. Galatians 3:27; Romans 13:14. And that we are "in Christ": Romans 8:1; Romans 12:5; 2 Corinthians 5:17. And "Christ in us": Colossians 1:27; 2 Corinthians 13:5. Any further thoughts?

Miyelani, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

There was no sin until man was created.

Romans 8:20 For the creature (man) was created SUBJECT TO VANITY, not willingly, but by reason of him (God) who hath SUBJECTED the same (man) in hope,

1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Ecclesiastes 3:11 ....also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from beggining to the end.

Adam and Eve were created with a heart subject to the weakness of FLESH.

They were predestined to sin because; Christ was predestined to die for OUR sins:

Revelation 13:8 And ALL THAT DWELL upon the earth SHALL WORSHIP HIM, whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN in the book of the life of the Lamb SLAIN BEFORE THE FOUNDATION of the world.

Praise to you lord Jesus Christ king of endless glory. Thank you lord for your mercy and grace.dear lord please fill my family and friends with your holy love.and strengthen us with your love for lost souls

Hi Pastor Godwin,

Seeing your question I guess led me to post these couple of verses that came to me. From another view point the Blessing we have of vision or "eyesight" is usually taken for granted. Though a blind person will have to live by all their other senses without "vision" and be disabled in some things.

Romans 8:24-25 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

As all we can normally see with our physical eyes is vanity. If this is the "vision" you were speaking of.

God Bless.

Proverbs 18:21

Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall EAT the fruit thereof.

1 John 3:14

We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth NOT his brother abideth in death.

Romans 8:6

For to be carnally minded (fleshly), is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

We need to be prayerful about how we speak about ourselves, to us; or about other people. There are things such as spoken curses. The Bible says that we are held accountable for every idle word that comes out of our mouth. I guess our angels record that stuff? I consciously made myself pause before I let something fly that was not acceptable.

Praying the right things along with a Bible scripture; is a very powerful prayer in a life giving way. Proverbs is a great book to glean good thoughts.

We have to have good scriptures memorized (the ones we love most), so when Satan gangs up on us with warfare; the righteous thoughts pop up automatically.

Like: I am the righteousness of God through Christ Jesus;

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me (including moving this 200 lb box)

There is now no condemnation to those who are in Christ.

My favorite for lonely: I am my Beloveds, and My Beloved is MINE.

EDIFY. This is what gets us over a rough patch.

M.

Brother Richard, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

I know we as brothers and sisters don't agree on all things, Yet. I also believe that God has designed it that way. He said that household would be brother against brother, sister against sister, etc. This is one of those TEST we endure. Flesh reacts with anger or some other similar trait with his brother. Spirit is long suffering and patient, both are works of God that burn wood, hay, stubble, and purify gold and silver.

1 Corinthians 3:11-13

The Spirit caused me to stop believing in Hell as a place of torture for eternity; because, I can't reconcile it to FIT and not contradict other scriptures.

1 Timothy 4:9 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation.

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, WHO IS THE SAVIOR OF ALL MEN, specially of those that BELIEVE.

1 Timothy 4:11 These things COMMAND AND TEACH.

I BELIEVE Christ will save the world; although, not all in the age we are in now.

1 Timothy 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

1 Timothy 2:4 Who WILL HAVE (God's will; will be done) all men to be saved, and come to the knowledge of truth.

Romans 8:21 Because the creature (creation) ITSELF ALSO SHALL BE DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption (death and the grave) into the glorious LIBERTY of the CHILDREN OF GOD.

I BELIEVE this is done in the ages to come after the SONS OF GOD have been revealed.

Romans 8:19 ...Creation WAITETH for the manifestation of the Sons of God.

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you, and persecute you.

Since Christ is in us and causes us to LOVE OUR ENEMIES. I think he knows how to judge in righteousness and not torture.

Proverbs 16:6 Through MERCY and TRUTH iniquity is purged....

Brother Adam, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Before you can understand Revelation you have to BELIEVE a few things.

Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND. You have to believe that it is relevant right this minute; that it's instructions on how our flesh is destroyed so be can inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 15:50 ...flesh and blood can not inherit the kingdom of God..

Revelation 1:1 ...and he sent and SIGNIFIED it...

You have to believe that most nouns represent something other than what a dictionary defines them as.

Romans 8:20 For the creature (man) was made subject to vanity....

We start life with no faithfulness to our creator (husband); therefore, we are the WHORE. We have no knowledge of the word of God; therefore, we are the false prophet, we have no love or mercy; therefore we are the BEAST. We are the only beast that buys and sells. We are flesh; therefore, we are Anti Christ (opposed to Spirit).

When Revelation is finished with us we will be the FULLNESS OF CHRIST.

Romans 8:3 ....God sending his own Son in the LIKENESS of sinful flesh (us)...

Sinful flesh (us) was crucified with Christ; Christ arose and we arose with him.

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection.... they shall shall reign with him a thousand years.

You have already died to the mark you were born with (the beast) (flesh).

Revelation 13:15 ....as many as would not worship the the image of the beast (themselves and things of the flesh) should be killed.

Revelation 9:18 By these three were a third part of man killed, by FIRE, and by smoke, and by brimstone...

You were raised with Christ and now Christ lives in you.

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming FIRE.

You now live in the purifying fire of CHRIST where the beast and false prophet are:

Revelation 19:20.. cast alive into FIRE; cast alive into Christ.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

1 Corinthians 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every name:

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Because the Elect One standeth before the Lord of Spirits, And His glory is for ever and ever, And His might unto all generations.

And the Elect One shall in those days sit on My throne, And His mouth shall pour forth all the secrets of wisdom and counsel: For the Lord of Spirits hath given (them) to Him and hath glorified Him.

He shall be a staff to the righteous whereon to stay themselves and not fall, And He shall be the light of the Gentiles, And the hope of those who are troubled of heart.

Open your eyes and lift up your hands if ye are able to recognize the Elect One. And the Lord of Spirits seated Him on the throne of His glory, And the spirit of righteousness was poured out upon Him, And the word of his mouth slays all the sinners, And all the unrighteous are destroyed from before his face.

part 1

Matthew 21:44.

And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

There must be conviction before conversion, I believe that's why the law "Ministry of death" ( 2 Cor. 3:7-10.)

came before the gospel. It was meant to show us the weakness of the flesh. "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Romans 8:3.

Christianity was attacked in the beginning of the church from within as we see today.

In Acts 20:28-30. Paul warns Ephesus, Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.

Jude also warns us. "Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

These warnings of what would come into the church (Leaven and tares). You see the tares Matthew 13:24-30.

We often try to pluck up the tares but Jesus instruct otherwise in verses 28-29: He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

See part 2. Eyes to open ears to hear.

GOD Bless.

For any who are looking at theories on how it ends. There is a fantastic picture that has been painted and taught since the early 1800s and is taken from Daniel 9:27 to create the last week (7 years). The entire theory and all that is taught that will happen hinges on taking the last week/7 years from this 70-week prophecy.

This prophecy was determined on Daniel's people (house of Israel) and the holy city (Jerusalem).

Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

If Jesus fulfilled what was determined in this prophecy, does that make this entire theory and all that is taught in this theory untrue?

How will it change the picture if the 70th week in the book of Daniel has been fulfilled?

What is our blessed hope?

We have been told to study, trust our teacher the Holy Spirit and pray.

These are the six things that were determined, and a few verses that may help your study.

1. To finish the transgression ( Isaiah 53:5, 8) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Hebrews 9:15-18)

2. To make an end of sins ( Matthew 1:21) ( Hebrews 10:8-11) ( John 1:29) ( 1 Corinthians 15:3)

( 1 John 3:5) ( Psalm 32) ( Romans 8:3)

3. To make reconciliation for iniquity ( Colossians 1:20-22) ( Isaiah 53:6) ( Isaiah 53:11) ( Ephesians 2:16) ( Titus 2:14) ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

4. To bring in everlasting righteousness ( Romans 5:17-21) ( Romans 3:21-26) ( 1Peter 2:24)

( 2 Corinthians 5:21) ( Isaiah 61:10-11)

5. To seal up vision and prophecy ( Daniel 9:23) ( John 6:27) ( Mark 1:14-15) ( Acts 3:18)

( John 5:36-40) ( Matthew 11:11-15)

6. To anoint the most holy ( Hebrews 8:1-12) ( Hebrews 9:6-14)

RLW

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When considering Hebrews 10:26,27 & its sister portion in Hebrews 6:4-6, we find that the same matter is being addressed. In both references, the warning of "sinning wilfully" & "falling away" are given. And these are mentioned because some of them were teetering into apostasy (i.e. turning from Christ back into Judaism). Just as Hebrews was for the teaching & guidance to the 'Messianic Jews", it was also a stern warning to the others.

So the "wilful sin" in Hebrews 10:26, wasn't a voluntary act of sin or being found living in such state, but one of apostasy. And as we read that passage through to verse 29, we note the writer's lesson: 'if those who sinned under Moses' Law were condemned to death without mercy, how much more will these others suffer who have trodden over God's Son, despising His Sacrifice, doing despite to the Spirit of Grace'. These were those who may have been converted, or appeared to be, but had determined in their hearts that Jesus' Sacrifice was insufficient or had little appeal in the light of the old Judaistic beliefs & teachings. To these, the writer says, that there remains "no more (no other) sacrifice for their sins" - the Law could never save them, nor can any other saviour. But "we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul" (v 39): there were still those who held onto Christ as their only Saviour & Hope.

So we can delight that even if we, as believers, slip up & sin, Christ's Sacrifice & the Spirit's Work in us, will ever alert us, draw us & bring us to repentance. If a person has none of this blessed Work going on in him, then the Spirit is not in residence & he may be deceiving himself ( Romans 8:9). But the warnings there in those portions in Hebrews were for those desiring to turn back into Judaism, for which there was no forgiveness & no further sacrifice available ( Hebrews 6:4-6).

Acts 7:55-56

But he (Stephen), being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Colossians 3:1

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

Luke 22:69

Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Mark 16:19

So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Hebrews 10:12

But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

1 Peter 3:22

Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Romans 8:34

Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Hebrews 12:2

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Matthew 22:44 (see Psalm 110:1)

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool?

Revelation 5:7

And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Brother David, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and His understanding.

BELIEVE

Romans 8:3 For what the law COULD NOT DO, in that it was weak in the flesh, God sending his own Son, in the LIKENESS OF SINFUL FLESH, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

Christ; the Spirit of GOD was made in the likeness of US (sinful flesh); therefore, sinful flesh (US) was CRUCIFIED on the CROSS WITH CHRIST. Christ rose AGAIN; therefore, we also arose with him, now in LIKENESS OF CHRIST.

John 8:51 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man keep my saying, he shall NEVER SEE DEATH.

Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he who hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION .......

You DIED and now LIVE IN CHRIST AND CHRIST IN YOU; you will never die again, you will just CHANGE BODIES.

Psalm 27:10

When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.

Romans 8:15

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Ephesians 1:5

Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to HIMSELF, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Sacha, 'Abba' means Daddy :)

And the Elect One shall in those days sit on My throne, And His mouth shall pour forth all the secrets of wisdom and counsel: For the Lord of Spirits hath given (them) to Him and hath glorified Him.

He shall be a staff to the righteous whereon to stay themselves and not fall, And He shall be the light of the Gentiles, And the hope of those who are troubled of heart.

All who dwell on earth shall fall down and worship before Him, And will praise and bless and celebrate with song the Lord of Spirits.

And for this reason hath He been chosen and hidden before Him, Before the creation of the world and for evermore.

And the righteous shall be in the light of the sun. And the elect in the light of eternal life: The days of their life shall be unending, And the days of the holy without number.

And they shall seek the light and find righteousness with the Lord of Spirits: There shall be peace to the righteous in the name of the Eternal Lord.

And the Lord of Spirits placed the Elect One on the throne of glory. And He shall judge all the works of the holy above in the heaven, And in the balance shall their deeds be weighed

For from the beginning the Son of Man was hidden, And the Most High preserved Him in the presence of His might, And revealed Him to the elect.

And from henceforth there shall be nothing corruptible; For that Son of Man has appeared, And Has seated Himself on the throne of His glory, And all evil shall pass away before His face, And the word of that Son of Man shall go forth

And be strong before the Lord of Spirits.

And the righteous and elect shall be saved on that day, And they shall never thenceforward see the face of the sinners and unrighteous.

And the Lord of Spirits will abide over them, And with that Son of Man shall they eat And lie down and rise up for ever and ever.

Brother Mitchell, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

When you came to the understanding that WE CAN DO NOTHING; but, Christ does all things for us. You will BE SET FREE.

You want have to achieve the hope set before you, Christ started it. he will complete it. In fact; Christ sees it as already COMPLETE. This is what is meant by coming INTO HIS REST; the works were completed before the foundations of the world were laid.

Ephesians 1:4

Hebrews 4:3

John 15:5

Psalms 92:4-6

YOU ARE DEAD (on your cross); He is alive on HIS THRONE (in you) living HIS life FOR YOU.

YOU have become ONE WITH CHRIST.

John 17:21

Luke 14:27

Matthew 10:38

Luke 9:23

We are THE POT he is THE POTTER.

This Verse keeps me hoping for what I want ti achieve. I like it.

Hi Carlton.

I agree, and what came to mind is I believe the Lord gave us marriage to communicate his love to the Church.

A husband and wife should model that relationship.

Ephesians 5:22-28. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

For the HUSBAND IS THE HEAD OF THE WIFE, EVEN AS CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH: and he is the saviour of the body.

Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

( THAT HE MIGHT SANCTIFY AND CLEANSE IT WITH THE WASHING OF WATER BY THE WORD, )

THAT HE MIGHT PRESENT IT TO HIMSELF A GLORIOUS CHURCH, NOT HAVING SPOT, OR WRINKLE, OR ANY SUCH THING; BUT THAT IT SHOULD BE HOLY AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.

So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

""THAT GOD MIGHT SANCTIFY AND CLEANSE US!!!""

Mathew 19:5-6. And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and THEY TWAIN SHALL BE ONE FLESH?

Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, LET NOT MAN PUT ASUNDER

These verses remind me of Romans 8:28-39. No separation, No divorce. Nothing can separate us from the love of the Lord.

God bless

Colossians Chapter 3

6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.

8 But now ye also put off all these; ANGER, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the OLD man with his deeds;

Ephesians Chapter 4

24 And that ye put on the NEW man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

27 Neither give place to the devil.

Mishael Comment: This generation of people are very angry and do not pull back on those reins to stop it. We are to produce the FRUIT of the Holy Spirit. The evidence of Jesus's life being lived through us.

Galatians 5:22

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Ephesians 5:9

(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Romans 8:9

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Matthew Chapter 12

32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall NOT be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Selah. (Pause and think on these things)

Michael.

As we know there's several views of Hebrews 6. Here's 4 commonly used.

1) Paul is talking to unconverted Jews that has been enlightened but turned back to Judaism.

2) Paul is talking Jewish believers to urge them towards Maturity, who's mengaling in Judaism, as did the Galatians.

3) Paul is talking to a mix of the 2 just mentioned 1 and 2.

4) He's talking about Jews loosing salvation.

Consider this verse you mentioned-

Hebrews 6:4. For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

"IF" This verse means salvation, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO RENEW YOU AGAIN UNTO REPENTANCE. "" MEANING YOU HAVE ONE CHANCE IN A LIFETIME TO

GET IT RIIGHT!! ARE YOU ARE FOREVER LOST!! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE!!! To renew the broken commitment, MEANING ONCE YOU COMMIT ONE SIN YOU ARE LOST.

Which Dont fit in the light of these scriptures?

Jude 1:24-25. Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

2 Timothy 1:12. For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

John 10:28-29. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Romans 8:38-39. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Hello Jesse,

I would share another angle of the verse you quoted. Please, read carefully the verse.

Romans 8:38-39 "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate "US" from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

The word "US" is referring to believing and obedient Christians. It is not referring to those Christians who have stopped believing and obeying God. There are those who that. Very faithful for years and then they apostatize. We can keep ourselves in God's love or we can not keep ourselves in God's love. It is our choice. We are told by the Apostles to fight hard to not stop believing or willfully practice sin.

John 15:10 "IF ye KEEP my commandments, ye shall abide (remain) in my love; even as I have KEPT my Father's commandments, and abide (remain) in his love."

Jude 1:21 "KEEP YOURSELVES in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life."

1 Corinthians 9:26-27 "I (Paul) therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so FIGHT I, not as one that beateth the air: But I KEEP UNDER MY BODY, and bring it INTO SUBJECTION: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY.

2 Timothy 4: 7-8 "I" (Paul) have FOUGHT a good FIGHT, "I" (Paul) have FINISHED my course, "I" (Paul) have KEPT the faith: HENCEFORTH there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Revelation 3:5 "He that OVERCOMETH, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will NOT blot out his name OUT of THE BOOK OF LIFE, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."

Good day, Jesse.