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Chris,

I agree with the way you adressed this topic before. I believe you helped break down the biggest most divisive issue, when there is hypocrisy with abuses & blatant unrepented sins, there is accountability. I believe Jesus clearly taught accountability & old testament usually addressed as within Church / temple & leadership within, also: Isaiah 9:17, Matthew 20:1-19, Luke 20:45-47, Luke 11:39-54, Matthew 23, Isaiah 1:17, Isaiah 1, Isaiah 58, Jeremiah 7:1-17, Jeremiah 22:3, Jeremiah 34:8-12 ._..

I believe you Chris or possibly someone else addressed the question we're they ever really saved?

I address this question as to answer the many outside the church who ask because of injustice etc. This site is for those, I believe most of all.

Faith Knight, I also agree with Adam & Chris this is an issue with disagreement. & hesitation is possibly warning. But, I included scripture covering love, meekness in the way, its addressed. John 15:18,24,25, Luke 21:17, Zechariah 13:6,

Count the cost? Luke 14:26-35,

Said in sincerity of Love, through the fellowship of Faith in Jesus Christ

There was 1st a Priesthood in: Genesis 14:18,

Another priesthood established after 400+ yrs of captivity of Israel in Egypt. Established in Exodus 28:1, described & defined & detailed in; Exodus 28, Ex. 29, Ex. 30, Ex. 31, Ex. 35, Ex. 38, Ex. 39, Ex. 40, Leviticus 1, note the Name, Aaron being in the Levi lineage= Exodus 2:1, Numbers 26:59, if you want to study the laws of the Priesthood all the chapters of Leviticus, I recommend.

Numbers 3:1-45, clarified who was allowed to be in the Priesthood. Note: Numbers 3:32, Numbers 4, breaks down duties of each family, within that tribe, separated by GOD specifically, Numbers 3:12-13, Numbers 3:41, Deuteronomy also describe the duties. This continued through the book of Joshua. King David & king Solomon, re-established the Levitical Priests; 1Chronicles 6:10, then again at the return of the Babylonian captivity re-established by Ezra, Nehemiah, Haggai, & all Israel that returned.

Therefore by these recorded accounts it appears the priesthood that existed during the moment your referring to in Mark 15, were traditional heirs of the priesthood as established, in Exodus. Respected & upheld by Jesus himself= Matthew 8:4, Mark 1:44, Luke 5:14,

Please read Isaiah 53, Zechariah 13:6, John 18:35,

Interestingly in: Luke 1:5, Luke 2, Hebrews 5, Hebrews 6, Jesus Our High Priest.

They swayed Pilate, Matthew 27:24, Mark 15:15, Luke 23:4-23, John 19:8-15, yet GOD ordained it & Christ allowed it, John 10:17,

I find it useful to read & study many Books of the Bible to answer my questions within one part of another Book.

Hopefully these are helpful & fully answer your questions

Jeremiah 3:3 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Therefore the showers have been withholden, and there hath been no latter rain; and thou hadst a whore's forehead, thou refusedst to be ashamed.

2 Timothy 1:8 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;

Romans 1:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Isaiah 50:7 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.

Zechariah 13:4 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:

2 Samuel 10:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

When they told it unto David, he sent to meet them, because the men were greatly ashamed: and the king said, Tarry at Jericho until your beards be grown, and then return.

Psalms 109:28 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Let them curse, but bless thou: when they arise, let them be ashamed; but let thy servant rejoice.

Psalms 127:5 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

2 Corinthians 10:8 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

For though I should boast somewhat more of our authority, which the Lord hath given us for edification, and not for your destruction, I should not be ashamed:

Sister Suze:

I happens because it was prophecied to happen.

Ezekiel 5:1-5

Zechariah 13:9

All the verses in Revelation that takes about the third part of man.

These are the called out, to be priest and judges.

Romans 8:19-21

I'm not so much sure if it's birth pangs, although you could be correct, Sheila.

Once the rapture happens, the tribulation does begin but it progressively gets worse if we follow the prophetic events in the Holy Bible. For example -- the anti-Christ may not rise up for a few years until after the tribulation begins but one of the early condemnations will be the mark of the beast (condemnation for those left behind and take it).

There's a slight contrast in the events which precede the rapture and which precede the 2nd coming (as they're not similar events or the same as some claim).

No signs precede Rapture. ( 1 Thessalonians 5:1-3)

Signs precede Second Coming. ( Luke 21:11,15)

Many terrible things will happen in the midst of the tribulation and there will be earthquakes, war and overall unrest. Some things of read you in Revelation are some of the most terrifying to be known. Israel's role too if you contrast between the pre-tribulation rapture & the 2nd coming:

Israel is persecuted during the Tribulation. Two-in-three Jews in Israel are killed. ( Zechariah 13:8-9)

Israel is regathered. ( Jeremiah 23:5-8)

World famine, pestilence, war and sorrow follow the Rapture. ( Matthew 24:6-10; Luke 17:31)

World peace follows Christ's Second Coming when He reigns from Jerusalem ( Isaiah 11:6)

Sister GiGi, every Word God has ever spoken WILL COME TO PASS.

This is why it is SO IMPORTANT to understand, and believe, MOSSES and THE PROPHETS.

The Spirit of Christ prophesied that ONLY ONE THIRD (vessels of honour) of creation would be CALLED in this age of GRACE (the DAY OF THE LORD).

Ezekiel 5:1 .....then take three balances and weigh, and DIVIDE the hair ....( Revelation 6:5-6)

Ezekiel 5:2 Thou shall burn the THIRD PART in the midst of the city ....(you are the new Jerusalem of God)

Ezekiel 5:3 Thou shall also take thereof a FEW IN NUMBER, and bind them in thy skirts ( Psalms 133:2).

Ezekiel 5:4 Then take of them (the few) and cast them into the FIRE ( Malachi 3:2-3), and burn them (the few) in the FIRE; for thereof (the few) shall a FIRE ( Psalms 104:4) COME FORTH unto the House of Israel (you are the TRUE house of Israel).

Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob (Jacob was the shadow; Christ is the TRUE) SHALL BE A FIRE, and the house of Joseph (Joseph was the shadow; Christ is the TRUE) shall be a flame, and the house of ESAU for stubble ..

Obadiah 1:21 And saviours shall come upon Mount Zion, to judge the mount of ESAU; and the KINGDOM (of GOD)(CHRIST IN YOU) shall be the Lord's.

Zechariah 13:09 And I WILL bring the THIRD PART THROUGH THE FIRE ..

Revelation 8:7 ... and there followed HAIL and FIRE .....

Isaiah 28:2 Behold, the Lord (the Father ) hath a strong and might one (CHRIST), which as a tempest of HAIL and a destroying storm ....

Isaiah 28:17 ..and the HAIL shall sweep away the refuge of lies ..

Revelation 8:8 ...as it were a great mountain BURNING WITH FIRE ...

Daniel 2:35 ...and the stone (CHRIST) that smote THE IMAGE (of the beast)( Revelation 13:15) became a great mountain (Mount Zion) ...

Revelation 9:18 By these three was a THIRD PART of man killed, by the FIRE, and by the SMOKE, and by the BRIMSTONE, WHICH ISSUED of there MOUTH.

The LAKE OF FIRE and BRIMSTONE comes out of the MOUTH, THE FIRE AND BRIMSTONE ARE THE WORD'S OF GOD.

Gill's Exposition of the Bible

And they shall put upon it all the vessels thereof,.... Upon the altar covered with a blue cloth; on that were to be put everything belonging to the altar:

wherewith they minister about it; the priests, when they offered sacrifice on it:

even the censers, the flesh-hooks, and the shovels, and the basins,

all the vessels of the altar; of which see Exodus 27:3,

and they shall spread upon it a covering of badgers' skins: to prevent the rains falling upon them, which being all of brass, would be apt to tarnish:

and put to the staves of it; which were made to bear and carry it on such an occasion as this, Exodus 27:6. No mention is made of the laver, though there is both in the Septuagint and Samaritan versions, which add,"and they shall take a purple cloth and cover the layer, and its base, and shall put it into a covering of skin of a blue colour, and put it upon bearers:''but perhaps the reason why this is not mentioned is, because it was carried uncovered; the mystery of which, Ainsworth conjectures, was this, that it might be a lively representation of the grace of God in Christ, continuing and opened as an ever springing fountain, where always God's elect, having faith in him, may wash and purge themselves in the blood of Christ unto forgiveness of sin sanctification of the Spirit, and salvation; see Zechariah 13:1.

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Mere hours before, Jesus tells the disciples that they will soon abandon Him. He quotes Zechariah 13:7: "Strike the shepherd, and the sheep will be scattered." The disciples vehemently deny that they would do such a thing ( Mark 14:31). To Jesus, who knows what will happen, it's already a certainty. His prophecy isn't to shame the disciples, but to tell them that after they scatter, they are to meet up again in Galilee ( Mark 14:28).

It's common for us to fear our sin. We may do something ambiguous and worry whether it's against God's will. Or we may make a vow that we will not commit a specific sin and despair when we inevitably fail. Or we, try to justify what we want to do to settle in our own minds that it is not sin. There are many ways in which we try to convince ourselves that what we do isn't sin. But those machinations are filled with pride and selfishness. We will sin. Every believer sins. We don't stop sinning when we become Christians. Jesus told the disciples they would scatter, and they do. It doesn't surprise God when we sin. The whole point of Jesus' coming is to cover those sins.

We do need to avoid sin ( 1 Corinthians 10:31). We do need to consider whether the action we're considering is in God's will. But it's also sin to concentrate on sin so much we lose focus on God. Instead of dwelling on whether something was a sin or if the thing we want to do is a sin, we need to remember that after it all, Jesus promises to forgive and restore us. We sin far more than we imagine, and if we accept Him, He forgives every sin. When we learn to rest in that forgiveness, obeying becomes a lot easier. And, ironically, we're less likely to sin in the first place.

Mishael: find strength in the Lords supper. He washes our feet. We wash each other's. Walk in forgiveness, with everyone. Be the earth body of Jesus, who would bless those good, and wretched. Pray as would.

1Corinthians 4, understanding 1st pray & read: James 1:5,

1Corinthians 4:1 "Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of CHRIST, and the stewards of the mysteries of GOD." references: Mark 4:11, in context Mark 4:1-34, Romans 11:25, Romans 16:25-27, Ephesians 3, Revelation 10:7, some Old Testament references: Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, Zechariah 13:6, Leviticus 16:17, John 19,



Romans 14:12 : reference for several

1Corinthians 4:2, references: Titus 1:7,

1Corinthians 4:3-4, ref: Romans 8:33, Isaiah 50:8, Jude 1:24-25, Romans 14:13, Psalms 98:9,

1Corinthians 4:5, ref: Matthew 25:31-46, Hebrews 10:30, 2Thessalonians 2,

1Corinthians 4:6,7,8, ref: 1Corinthians 12, Deuteronomy 8:18, Psalms 75:6-7, John 19:11,

1Corinthians 4:9-14, Hebrews 11,

Hopefully these are helpful

Isaiah 53, Luke 1, Luke 2, Luke 3, whole chapters

Zechariah 13:6,

My question back, is why does she feel this way? anti-Semitic thought sometimes were thought because of the crucifixion. Sometimes for love towards Jesus & sad for His suffering, If someone doesn't read deeper to see Jesus came to his own, wounded by his own. For all mankind & HE forgave even them. John 4:9, Luke 23:34, Luke 6:37, Romans 1:16,

Other good scriptures were given by other answers.

It may be a good start to find out why it's important to her to believe that. Finding the root, sometimes helps better answer questions.

Hopefully these are helpful

Kay,

2John 1:5-11, James 4:4-5, I'm reminded of 2Kings 20:12-18, Isaiah 39:1-7, Micah 7:5, Proverbs 19:4,= Job 19:14, Proverbs 14:20, Psalms 38:11,

Proverbs 19:7, Luke 21:16, Proverbs 19:6, Proverbs 18:24, Proverbs 27:6,

Even Jesus friends : Mark 3:21, Zechariah 13:6, Psalms 41:9, Luke 7:34, Matthew 11:19, Matthew 26:48-50

John 15:14-26, Job 42:10, -after = ( Job 32:3 ), Mark 5:19, Luke 14:12-14,

Hopefully these are helpful for wisdom in your love & wisdom towards GOD, your friends & close friends

Roy, Acts 18:28,

1st Paul the one given credit for writing book of Acts was not around Jesus CHRIST during the days before HIS Resurrection, Acts 8, Paul was actually opposed. That might be the past tense reference, if there was any reference to that being past tense at all.

2nd I read Acts 18:28, as a fact that Jesus was Who HE said he was, the same as: is who HE said HE is. In USA I've lived around many dialects of English = in the "deep south" Eastern coast the 1st would make perfect sense to most. English in the deeper South still has many phrases & words used in KJV like 'Breeches' However Michigan area the second way, may be understood better.

3rd Please read the entire Books of Matthew 1, Mark 1, Luke 1, John 1, starting with 1st chapters to see who Jesus CHRIST was & is.

4th maybe most important is the Old Testament points to Jesus being CHRIST all throughout. The same Jesus in the Books of the New Testament. For instance all throughout Psalms points to things Jesus did, & suffered, ' Prophetic fulfillment ' : Psalms 2:6-8, Psalms 8:2, Psalms 27:6, Psalms 16:10, Psalms 18:44, * Psalms 22:1,7,8,14,15,16,17,18,24,27,28,30,31,

Zechariah 13:6, Isaiah 53,

Hopefully that helps

Recently, I was pondering in my mind with the LORD about this account & I knew there would be a discussion about this. For some of us it's easier to fight, much more difficult to submit to circumstances beyond our control; especially when it's unjust. I relate with Peter. I was thinking how Peter had come to the realization the Jesus was the CHRIST, MESSIAH. Jesus had just said : Luke 22:27-30.

Is there much more knowledge we're supposed to get from this?

Luke 22:36, Luke 22:38, 2 swords enough? Do you think Jesus was being literal or testing them? Do you feel the act of aggregation saved the Disciples? John 18:8-9, ( I've thought that) but look at: John 18:10. "Then._." it seems to be after Jesus had already set their pardon.

Luke 22:40,42, Luke 22:43-46, Matthew 26:36-44, Mark 14:33-39, Zechariah 13:7, ( Mark 14:27 , Matthew 26:56 )

Matthew 16:15-27,

* Mark 14:27, offended? Matthew 26:33-35,

Mark 14:42-50, Luke 22:47-51, John 18:10-11, Matthew 26:50-52, Were they offended because Jesus didn't fight, nor let them? after He had said to get swords? Would we be offended if Jesus healed our enemy, we thought we were defending Him from? Then rebuke them/Peter or us openly? John 18:6, Matthew 26:53,

Luke 22:54, John 18:15, Why did Peter follow? Luke 22:33, Where is our strength? In our flesh & resolve, or GOD & HIS will?

Mark 14:29-31,

Luke 22:55-62,

Matthew 10:17-22, Matthew 10:28-34,

Acts 12:1-12,

Romans 8:34-39,

Ephesians 6:10-18,

Do you think it was much easier to fight? Matthew 26:41, Luke 22:32,

Isaiah 55:8-9,

Jesse There the cookies that you get this time of year that you have to shovel a lot of snow or go skiing

or sledding or hit the exercise machine so when you look at the scale you don't say gotta stop eating these! LOL

Hello Rick,

Thank you so much for that and right back at you. I'm not sure what HoHo cookies are but my wife made a bunch of cookies and my favorite peanut brittle. I ate a bunch so far but no worries because I set my scale back 10 pounds. I can't wait to get back to work so I can ask the guys "Do these shoes make me look fat?"

Jesse Just thought I'd say Happy Holidays and don't eat too many HoHo cookies! Smiles.

Larry For the wages or payment for sin broken fellowship is death, but the walk bu the spirit is life and peace

matter what, and there is no respect of persons Romans 2:6-11y

Larry,

If a man keeps sinning after being saved, that man needs to take inventory and ask himself if he's truly saved. A person who is saved has the Spirit of Christ living inside them and they are no longer living under the sin principle. However, a saved person can and will commit single acts of sin, but that person can no longer sin habitually because the Spirit that now lives in them prevents that from happening.

We are told in 1 John 3:9, "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

This verse makes it sound like a saved person does not sin. But here's what it literally says when taken from the Greek text: Whosoever has been born of God does not practice sin; for God's seed remains, or abides in him: and he cannot sin, that is, he does not have the capacity to sin because he has been born of God.

You see, once I'm born of the Spirit of God, I do not have the capacity to continue to satisfy a lifestyle of sin. It is impossible! Why? It's because God's Spirit in me keeps me from sinning continually and habitually. That's one way to test if I am truly saved or not. If I go out and keep sinning habitually and the Lord does not deal with me, I'm probably not saved at all. If I step out of line and there's no conviction in my heart, do I really have God's Spirit living in me? Probably not!

As far as paying for our sin, Jesus Christ paid the penalty for our sin. There is nothing man can do to pay the penalty for his own sin.

What if a man keeps sinning after being saved? Bible says you will pay for your sins

Brother Ronald, Revelation is signified. The lake of fire REPRESENTS SOMETHING.

The first and death death REPRESENTS SOMETHING.

Since there is a second death, there has to also be a first death.

The chosen take part in the first death ( John 12:25) while they still have breath in their nostrils.

In Revelation 9:18 The third are killed (they die for Christ's life as Christ died to give you his life) by fire and brimstone. IN CHRIST (also Revelation 8)

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Ezekiel 5:2-4 This is the same third described in Revelation 9:18 and Zechariah 13:9

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity, He that killeth (teaches truth) with the sword (the word) must also be killed with the sword (the word).

You are in the lake of fire, being purified and destroyed at the same time.

God Bless You!

Hello Jesse, A confirmation. Wasn't there an unwritten law before Moses? Adam was commanded, on pain of death, not to eat from that tree. As a result, humans have the same desire as Adam, "You shall be as gods." It was an unwritten law, but it brought death, "The wages of sin is death." What sin did Adam commit? God created him with a personality and certain characteristics as a human. The one thing God did not give him was independence from God. Eating the fruit was for the purpose of being independent from God.

Everyone is born with this tendency to commit evil, to live according to our own wishes. Like everyone else, a pagan is only lost when he lives according to his will. Can God save a pagan that has not even heard of Him? Of Course! How is that? "The just shall live by faith." God can reach a pagan the way He does anyone. He gives the gift of faith. He can bring a person to trust and belief, by our created world, to know a Great Power exist and has made Himself known. If that pagan gives himself to that higher power, he may be ones of those, when he gets into the kingdom, that knows nothing of Christ and His story. Zechariah 13:5, "And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends." It is true that Jesus is the Light that lights everyone that comes into the world, even pagans.

Sister Glenda, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Age is in YOUR favour; because, you can look back at more experiences of LIFE, than your daughter.

The SPIRIT has CAUSED you (through the CHOICES he CAUSED you to make) to have those experiences of LIFE (good and evil) because it is necessary to become like God. ( Genesis 3:22)

God KNOWS how to USE EVIL for GOOD.

God CAUSED Joseph to have a silly little dream and to tell his brothers about that dream.

God CAUSED his brothers to be envious and hate Joseph.

God CAUSED his brothers to rise up and do EVIL against their brother Joseph.

But look what THE WORD SAYS:

Genesis 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not, for I am in the place of God (where God purposed him to be).

Genesis 50:20 But as FOR YOU, you thought EVIL against me, but God meant (caused) it (evil) unto GOOD, to bring to pass, as it is this day, TO SAVE MUCH PEOPLE ALIVE.

God is STILL DOING this TODAY; Man just does't BELIEVE IT.

Did Judas have a Choice outside of what God had purposed him TO DO.( Zechariah 11:12)

Did Peter have a Choice outside of what God had purposed him TO DO (deny Jesus and flee)( Zechariah 13:7).

Did Pharaoh have a Choice outside of what God had purposed Him TO DO ( Romans 9:17).

Did David have a Choice outside of what God purposed him TO DO.

2 Samuel 24:1 And AGAIN the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he MOVED (CAUSED) David against them, to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

God PURPOSED that you are going to become the IMAGE of HIM ( Romans 8:29)( 1 Corinthians 15:49), Do you think you have a CHOICE outside of what he has purpose you TO DO.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my Spirit in you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statues (good or evil), and you shall keep my judgements, and DO THEM.

God's WAY is not man's WAY.

Yes John I believe in a double fulfillment or/and 2 fold prophecy.

Comments by Alex about Jacob and Esau, Twins but God loved one but hated the other They struggled in the womb . God told Rebpbaca they were 2 manner of ppl , one was of the flesh and 1 was of the spirit ,But Jacob wanted Esau birth right ,The flesh was symbolic of humanity but the spirit is symbolic of the H.G. a baby Christ ,Its Christ that wants to steal our birth right which was death . The Soul that sinneth shall surely DIE. Thats was our birth right DEATH,as the wages of sin is death ,But Jesus is saying we must be bornagain if we wanna live . Jesus took our sins by his blood that red pottage Remember Esau traded his birth right for that RED POTTAGE SYMBOLIC OF THE BLOOD OF CHRIST That he might live, Esau was at the point of death. But its Christ that steals our birth right which was DEATH BY HIS BLOOD. Thats y they say he will come as a thief in the night, Both Peter and Paul say this "A thief in the nite " but they describe this 2 nd coming as birth pains . She brought forth a manchild which is the H.G. Remember Jesus said unless ya drink my blood you will have no life in you ( that red pottage ) Thus Esau lived . In Adam we all die but in Christ a type of Jacob we will ALL live. But Issac caught on to their transaction and made Jacob Esau's lord,The 2 nd born which is the H.G IS GONNA BE OUR LORD. Just as Jacob stole Esau's birth right which was death ( the soul that sinneth shall surely die ) Christ will steal our old birth right which is death . I COME AS A THIEF IN THE NITE . REMEMBER JESUS SAID THE BRIDEGROOM WILL COME AT MIDNIGHT TO CATCH AWAY THE BRIDE . Thus we must be bornagain , Thats our new birth right as the spirit of life in CHRIST JESUS has free from the law of sin and death ( our new birth right ) is life by his blood ,that red pottage ,the blood of the lamb. The thing that is most important is both peter and paul describe this 2 nd coming as birth pains,When Isaiah saw the Kingdom coming he says unto us a child is born. Our birth right

I have never seen anything like that on here unless I missed it? Seems to me everyone is very nice and respectful of others. I would like to know what was said but my email does not work.

what is two fold prophecy?

The first line of the Bible states that heaven is created along with the creation of the earth ( Genesis 1). It is primarily God's dwelling place in the biblical tradition: a parallel realm where everything operates according to God's will.

In Genesis 1, much is written about heaven, firmament, dividing, etc. all those center of the page columns (abc notes) refer to other scriptures. You'll need a study Bible with that feature. Or...

You can go on Google and type in: charts of 3 heavens. NOT all of them are accurate according to scripture.

God is Spirit. He doesn't need to stand on something. The Holy Spirit is Spirit; same thing. In Genesis, Jesus's name is the Word.

See John 1:1-5

Philippians 2:8-10, 6 and 3:19

Revelation 19:13

Zechariah 13:7

Isaiah 9:6

All those scriptures may have reference notes to additional scriptures. You need a reference study Bible, to research deeply.

It takes determination to search out the mysteries of God.

Always ask the Holy Spirit to HELP you and TEACH you those mysteries. He's the Spirit of Christ; and a born again Christian has the Mind of Christ. You have everything you need when combined with Faith: faith that the Holy Spirit does what scripture says that He does. Pursue Him.

Mishael

Please explain: Zechariah 13:6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends. ????

Reading various commentaries on this chapter, most seem to run into a problem in interpreting the prophet described in this chapter. There are some aspects that point to this being a false prophet and others that seem to make reference to Christ. In my opinion, from v2 to the end to the end of v4 the bible is describing a false prophet. Then there is a transition in beginning of v5 following the word "But,,," where the bible is comparing and contrasting the false prophet to another, who is not a prophet, but actually Christ.
- He is not a prophet, but the Good Shepherd.
- The wounds in his hand are from the cross.
- The sword was from God, who used the Roman soldier.

Any thoughts?

Jesus said Matthew 15:24 - But he (Jesus) answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I (Jesus) know them, and they follow me:
Galations 3: 28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Jeremiah 3:8 - And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away,
and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.