Bible Discussion Thread

To love God is to keep his commandments.... 1 John 5:3, John 14:15, Ecclesiates 12:13. The Saviour did not take away your sins. He ended the law of sacrifice only. The Most High God hates Sinners, Sirach/Ecclesiaticus 12:6. If anyone willfully sins, the sacrifice cannot be used to repent that sin, Hebrews 10:26.

Also you're misquoting the context of Hebrews 10:26. There remains no more sacrifice for sins because Jesus paid for our sins in full, Hebrews 10 9-19. So how can one sacrifice for a sin that has already been sacrificed for. That's like paying on your car note when its already paid in full. Their willful sin is turning from the blood back to sacrifices and their own works.

Yes he did! To say otherwise is not to believe in Him as the Messiah. Romans 3 25-28, Romans 3 22-24, John 1 29, 1 John 2 2, Rev 1 5, Hebrews 9 14, etc! You are in danger of Hebrews 10:29. The new Hebrew believers wanted to go back to works and doubted on the covering of Jesus's blood. The debt of our sins are gone forever. Only chastisement and loss of rewards are left for sinning believers.

So, you willfully sinning will not be paid back by the Messiah's sacrifice for one of your sins, since you willfully transgressed the law on purpose. This is why the gift of grace kicks in for you to repent and get it right before you die or the earth ends, cause then comes judgement.

The willful sining that you speak of causes loss of inheritance ruling with Christ. Only children can inheirit, so nonbelievers are not the subject. Inheiriting the Kingdom is not the same as entering. You can enter a house it doesnt mean you inheirit it. Salvation is not the issue as He has bought and paid for you. The Holy Spirit seals you until He comes back, Ephesians 4:30, 1 Cor 6:19-20.

We get better at sining less when we renew our mind with the bible, our spiritual food for spiritual growth, Ephesians 4:22-24. But some believers are babies in Christ and dont grow and walk as unsaved ppl, 1 Corinthians 3 1-3. But being a carnal believer doesn't mean your not saved for even Paul says he was, Romans 7:14-15. We work for rewards ruling with Christ in the new heaven Earth.

We all willfully sin. We lie, lust, covet, hate, argue, etc. Try to go one day without sinning, you can't. Thats why He died for us. We can try to sin less but will never be sinless. Sin is not the issue for believers, its fellowship. We will never get it right, if we could Jesus wouldn't have to had die. Grace is undeserved mercy for sinners who believe.

Laws, statues, and commandments are not done away with like many Christians think - there are over 600.. Sacrifices were only ended. Grace gave us time to get it as right as possible before your death on the end of the world, then judgement will come. All of this is with respect to the Messiah - the son of TMH. Colossians 3:17, Hebrews 9:15. Faith Works are a must James 2:22.

Sacrifices were only ended. For the Christians. I wonder why the unsaved Jews quit sacrificing.

I never said they were done away with. I said that the payment for salvation has been paid in full. Faith with works is for men. God knows our hearts and can see our faith without works which is salvation. Faith with works is discipliship. Showing nonbelievers your works to bring them to faith. Salvation is a free gift, discipliship is hard work.

The Messiah was killed on a tree, and it was a sacrifice to end all the over and over sacrifices for our sins, and to give us grace. There had to be a sacrifice conducted by the Levites for each sin. Heck, they were sacrificing everyday! That is what came to an end - sacrifices! So continue thinking that laws, statues, and commandments are ended 1 John 5:3 and suffer a harsh judgement.

Once we believe we are giving a spirit born of God that cannot sin bc sin cannot enter heaven thats why we must die first. Our flesh is sin itself as it wont stop sinning, Rom 7 16-20 . As we know we are His we can try to sin less to avoid temporal punishment onEarth. 1 John 5 18. Which is why Christ had to die. He gave us a new man spirit of God which is always at war with our old man flesh .

We do not get eternal judgement aka hell, John 3:18. Believers go to the Judgement Seat of Christ, which is for rewards and or the loss thereof. 1 Cor 3 10-15, 1 Cor 9 25, Rom 18 4-10. God is just and merciful.He shows mercy in all who believe will be in heaven and just as only those who serve Him will have an inheritance in heaven. 1 Peter 1 4 :inheritance resevered in heaven, it is not heaven.

The laws statues, commandments, were only given to the Israelites, Romans 9:1-5, Salvation is only for the Israelites Luke 1:68-75, you must walk in faith and works James 2:22. The new Kingdom is for Israel, Jeremiah 31:31, Hebrews 8:8. To get eternal life you must do the commandments of God Matthew 19:16, 1 John 5:3, John 14:15, Ecclesiastes 12:13. God hates the sinners Ecclesiasticus 12:6.

Salvation is for all who believe.We are His adopted ppl. The New Kingdom will be for all believers. The difference between Jewish believers and non-Jewish believers, is that the Jewish believers are Christ's Bride, and we the Church, are apart of His body.The new Heaven and new Earth will be for all believers, but only certian believers who have served Him will enter into the City of New Jerusalem

Those who believe but are disobedient there will be chastened on Earth, early death, and or loss of rewards, but salvation is always secured. 1 Cor 3 10-15. Our works and obedience are for fellowship with God. Think of an earthly parent and child. When the child is bad do you say its not yours or do you chasten them in love? Proverbs 3:11-12, 1 Corinthians 11:32, Hebrews 12:5-7.

Salvation is only for his people - Israelites, to save them from their enemies and all that hate them. Salvation means nothing else. Luke 1:68. whatever nation took you into captivity is your enemy nation. Esau - Edom will be devoured for being our enemy. Obadiah 18. TMH hates Esau Romans 9:13. There are only 12 gates to the Kingdom and it is for Israel Rev. 21:12., Heb. 8:8.

What are sacrifices for? Sin. Ergo sin is not the issue anymore for salvation its belief in the Messiah Jesus Christ. We will never keep the law. We can try but we will fail thats why He lived a perfect life and died tor us so we can live through Him. For believers who do not obey Christ or the commandments the punisjment is not Hell. Thats what He saved us from.

Salvation is in following the word of god by the way of the messiah.. Hebrews 9:15. ..for eternal inheritance, by way of following his commandments Matthew 19:16. words of advice, you should willfully attempt to follow the words of TMH, with faith and works, james 2:20-22, by the way of the messiah Colosians 3:17. Your judgement will be based on faith, works, and your acceptance of the savior.

Hebrews 10:26 The savior's sacrifice only comes in place when you DO NOT willfully did not know sin, but when you do know right from wrong what is law , and you WILLFULLY transgress the law sin anyway, his sacrifice will not be used for that sin, and you must repent, and get it right before you die or earth ends, before judgement. Mat. 5:17 fullied his sacrifice. Act 3:18.

Transgression of the law is always an issue 1 john 3:4. You are to do his commandments to the best of your willful ability, and also accept Yahawasha as your savior and mediator collosians 3:17, Heb. 9:15. The messiah ended practicing the law of sacrifice. Hebrews 10:10-12. You will be judged after your death, and the earth's, and it will be based on your faith AND works.

Sacrifice was a payment for sins. We dont sacrifce bc our sins our paid for. Yes, we should try to do his commandments after being saved, but for fellowship not salvation, 1 John 1 3-4. Its rewards are at stake, 1 Cor 3 10-15. i

Again 1 John 5:3 is out of context. Read the whole chapter. It says whosever believes in Christ is born of God and we know we love God abd his children if we obey. Two separate situations. Going further it states that those who believe have overcome thru their faith. Verse 12. He who has the son has life. Present tense. One time event.

Ecclesiastes 12:13, John 15:10, 1 John 5:3, John 14:15, Matthew 19:16, Hebrews 10:26, 1 jOHN 2:3, 1 Peter 2:21, Psalms 111:10, Luke 1:6, Psalms 19:7, proverbs 6:23, Psalms 40:8, over and over and over, keep the commandments. DON'T LET THEM FOOL YOU. If you go to judgement w o works you can be finished!! while w you will be fine!! You should jump to want to do w o being commanded.

Grace is undeserved mercy, so why do keep trying to earn it? You dont earn your parents love, Its freely given like our salvation which He freely gave to us making us His children, but our fellowship with Him, like with our parents is based on how we obey. It saddens me how some make God out to be an abusive parent, He is the most loving being of all. I recommend Pastor Yankee Arnold on youtube.

..like grace to pay a bill - grace is time between either your death, or the end of the earth to have as much faith as possible that will lead to being a righteous person before judgement, which will occur 7 days after the end of earth as it is today. ..again james 2:20-22. You can't know God unless you do his commandments!!!!! 1 John 2:3.

The purpose of 1 John on is for fellowship. Know here is not to acknowledge or know personally. Think of it this way: a person can have a mom but not know her initmately. Or a man who divorces his wife and says"I never knew her". Of course they know them but they have no intimate relationship with them or understand them. And as both cases when we dont know God as well as we should we lose joy

Remember each book is a letter with its own main theme. Don't just look at the chapters but the whole book. Why did John say he was writing this: 1 John 1" 3 that which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full"

Also look at these ppl who keep talking about their works Matt 7 21-23, never do the mention their faith in what Christ has done for them? Furthermore He says He never knew them, not knew them then lost them, remember John 6 37-39. These ppl doubted his complete work and looked to their own works. What is the will of the Father? John 6 39-40, believe in His Son.

You have to have faith which will lead to true works. Without eventual works, you have no true righteousness.. James 2:20-22.

Romans 4 :14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect: People say the bible contradicts itself but it doesn't , it just addresses different things that ppl try to merge together. When talking of salvation its free thru faith. But rewards in heaven and disicplship are thru obedience. Separate situations with separate outcomes.

Romans 4 :3-5 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Also Ecclesisticus is non-canoinical.Its not even recognized as OT by the Jews. Its ued by lordship ppl to bring fear and twist faith with lies. Again if He hates us why die for us? God hates sinners is the biggest lie ever. Sin separates us from Him so He died to remove it that we may boldy come to Him, Eph 3 11-12. He sacrifced himself for sinners, so how does that verse make sense?

Salvation is for all who believe. You are doubting the finish work of The Most High. The bible states again and again the salvation is a free gift., Acts 4:12, Ephesians 2 8-10, John 3 16, and that He will never lose us or cast us out, John 6 37-39. Why do you ppl always doubt His power and love for us. He died for sinners so how can He hate them? He hates our sin and did away with it.