Bible Discussion Thread

This chapter is often misinterpreted to mean that man can sin all he wants and still be assured of an everlasting life because Jesus Christ already paid for their sins!. In my opinion, this chapter means Christ died so we may be forgiven, we should live Christ-like lives to be able to see the heavens otherwise we are doomed unless we repent for the shortfalls

Gay Amutuhaire: You are correct in saying ch.6 of Romans does NOT mean we are at liberty to do whatever we want because Christ died for our sins..Christ being crucified on the cross made provision for us to be saved. It's not once saved always saved, Luke 9:23 we must confess, repent and die to self.

I am a bit puzzled? If the scriptures state, eternal life, life everlasting, and such statements, at what point can a person who has trusted Christ as Savoir loose that salvation? I find no where in scripture that we can take ourselves out of the hand of Christ, who is in the hand of the Father. If it were possible, then our salvation has to depend on us? Romans 4:2 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 2 Timothy 1:1 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed to him. It is His righteousness not mine.

Our part in salvation is being obedient to God God's law but we can not do that unless we have a daily heart relationship with Jesus. Romans 6:23 The wages of sin is death.Satan is constantly trying to tempt us by leading us into sin by being disobedient to God. We are assured that 1 John 2:1 if we sin we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.

If the bible taught that you can loose your salvation, would it not tell you the sin it is that you may commit to loose it? All sin carries eternal consequences. What about the sins forgotten, or those we don't think are sin? We are kept by His righteousness, not our own. The scriptures would not say, eternal life, everlasting life, if "He," could loose it. That simply puts destiny in our hands? We are in the hands of Jesus Christ and His finished works, less we should boast. So, I reason with you to search the scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life! Prove them for yourself. At what point during your day are you lost, or saved? Only you can to answer that question.

1 John 3:4 Sin is the transgression of the law, Romans 3:20 for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Romans 3:31 Do we make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea we establish the law. Romans 7:12 The law is holy, and the commandment is holy. Acts 17:30 In times of ignorance,God winks at,but now commands every man to repent. James 2:17 Faith without works is dead.Our part"works"is being obedient

once saved by the blood of Christ, you are saved. If the blood of bulls and goats were sufficient to cover sins for a year, how much more the blood of Jesus. Is God's Jesus blood of so little value? It is everlasting, eternal, and beyond our ability to comprehend it's worth. Just think, the grace and love behind the willingness to die, to save us from eternal separation from God hell WOW!!!!!!

The blood of bulls and goats were sufficient to cover sins leading up to the crucifixion, the shed blood of Jesus is sufficient to cover since the crucifixion but either way it does not cover sins automatically in both cases a person must have a change of heart aka the new birth.What we can not comprehend is the love and willingness that Jesus left heaven came to sinful earth died a shameful death

Judging from your comment, you missed my point ENTIRELY!

V Turner: My point is that The shed blood of Jesus is not an instant we are now saved forever, it allows us to confess and repent and He will forgive, it is not a "once saved always saved" situation for we are saved from our sins not in our sins we need a moment by moment heart connection with our Heavenly Father in order to have a Christlike character.

We are saved by grace through faith, and justified by faith. Your works are dead if your working for eternal salvation. The moment you believed the gospel of Jesus Christ is the moment you inherited everlasting life. You have been made a new creation, not of your will but of the will and power of the Spirit of God. If there is anything you must repent of, it is your unbelief of the promise of everlasting life through the Lord Jesus Christ.

If you love Jesus, obey His commandments. John 14:15 If you don't obey His commandments then you don't love Jesus. If you don't love and follow Jesus you won't be with Him in heaven for eternity. It's pretty simple. You were given the freewill to choose and many will not chose the narrow path, but will believe satan's deception that it's ok to do evil, that you don't need to try or make effort to do anything good, etc. Matthew 7:22-23

Deason K. ( James 2:26) For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. ( James 2:17) Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. ( James 2:18) Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Read James 2:19-24..I am not trying to work my way to heaven, by my faith I will have good works, faith and works go hand in hand, if you have one without the other than it is not complete..That's why Matthew 7:20 says By their fruits ye shall know them. May God bless you.

We are saved by faith not of works. Yes, if we believe the truth then the good fruit will be good works. I just want to make it clear that any mans work for salvation is worthless because Christ came to do the works of God. He did it perfectly and He finished it. Now, all men who believe the gospel of Jesus Christ are counted righteous not by the deeds of the law but by faith. God is looking down on this planet with 7 billion souls living here, He is looking in the heart of men and will He find faith? Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God. The only way men can have faith is by men proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ. Aloha