Bible Discussion Thread

After Judas betrayal did Judas go to heaven or hell

WendallBriggs: A person goes to neither Heaven or hell when they die, the Bible clearly tells what death is in Ecclesiastes 9:5, Psalms 6:5, Luke 8:52-56, John 5:28-29, there are more just look. In Genesis 3:4 Satan told the woman Eve Ye shall not surly die, Satan started the lie that a person lives when they die and is the father of all lies. The 2nd coming of Jesus there will be a resurrection

Wendell Briggs, Judas Iscariot went to his own place, his eternal hell. Acts 1:25 Mark 14:21 John 17:12 Matthew 26:24. We choose our own place in this world. We choose our own place in eternity. Judas Iscariot betrayed our Lord Jesus Christ, for thirty pieces of silver.

I think because he betrayed Jesus before the crucifixion, and taking his own life also before Jesus died, must have received forgiveness through the blood of Jesus, just as all sinners did, myself included.

Johan:Judas killed himself committed suicide one of the 10 commandments 6 says Thou shalt not kill..That means even yourself, God created us and who are we to decide when we should die? A person does not go to heaven or hell when they die, but go back to dust which is what God made man from Genesis 2:7 Jesus Crucifixion made provision for eternal life but didn't guarantee it,we must be obedient

I do not see any clear cut answer in the Bible, I don't see where Judas ask to be forgiven, repented or anything. Christ was not crucified at the point or that he forgave him as he did the thief that perished with him on the cross.

Another angle to look at, while Jesus was on the cross HE said" Father forgive them for they don't know what they are doing" my question is now, who is the "they" Jesus is praying about ?

It sounds as though he was asking God to forgive the ones who crucified him.

In reality, it was each one of us who put Jesus to death. Our sins killed Him. 2 Corinthians 5:21. Also, read Romans 5:8 Matthew 27:22-25 Matthew 27:27-37. The "they" are all of mankind from the beginning of time. We all were born sinners in God's eyes, so Jesus Christ is asking the Father to forgive them for they know not what they do. Luke 23:34.

So coming back to the first question I see then according to Ann that should include "Judas"

There is no big or small sin, sin is sin. Even if you break one commandment you are guilty .There is just one sin that cannot be forgiven------against the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 26:24 The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born. Woe means: grief, sorrow, misery, a heavy calamity, Curse. Galatians 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: Iscariot.

2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. That means your soul and spirit returns back to the Lord who gave it, and the flesh returns back to dust. Amen

I have a different interpretation of that verse. Paul says he would 'rather' be absent from body and present with the Lord. To me that does not mean in 100 percent of all cases someone dead is with the Lord. Why would they be with the Lord if they haven't been judged yet? In 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 it says people will be asleep and await the Lord's coming. If people were already in heaven it wouldnt make sense for them to go back to earth into their body only to be raised again to go to heaven.