Bible Discussion Thread

One of satan's greatest tricks is to convince others he doesn't exist and that he doesn't deceive people into choosing sin. 'No one will ever find out', 'if I don't do it, someone else will', 'what happens here, stays here', 'it won't hurt anybody', or 'they deserve it'. These types rationalizations are used to commit sin from stealing a penny to committing mass murder. Satan deceived from the beginning and still does today.

Did not God himself commit and approve of many genocides? God killed everyone on Earth except for Noah's family in the Great Flood; God killed every inhabitant of Sodom and Gomorrah by raining hellfire down on them; God ordered the death of the Philistines by the Israelites when the Israelites marched outside their wall. God even guaranteed the deaths of Adam, Eve, and all of their descendants by explicitly denying them the ability to eat from the tree of life (simply because God did not want them to "live forever"). Did not God create death, as he created all things?

God didn't deny Adam and Eve from eating of the tree of life. But they choose the tree of good and evil.

Abel-The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life Romans 6:23. All of the incidents you have mentioned are consequences of the actions of those you mentioned. Why did God send a flood to destroy the whole earth? Genesis 6:5-7, why did God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? Genesis 13:13 The men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the Lord. If you look up the story of each incident you will find that the people were not obedient to God therefore the Lord had them destroyed as to not continue spreading sin, this is no different today, the earth will be destroyed at the second coming because we humans are not obeying Gods law.

To Abel concerning Genesis 3; if you had read on just a little more.
Genesis 4:25 it says that EVE bore Adam another child: named Seth. Just a little further on you see Adams death age, followed by Seths age at death. God was carefully overseeing the blood trail that would lead to the birth of Jesus. None of it was by chance/circumstance. Jesus came into the world. Both Joseph and Mary were descendants of king David. Jesus's blood must be pure from sin. His blood came from the Father. He only had Gods dna. That's why his blood was so unique. He must walk this world 33 years without sin. He called himself. "The Son of Man. "

Should people who commit moral crimes not be accountable for it? Let's say someone severely hurt you or your loved one, would you not want justice? Adam and Eve sinned against God which they were told in advance what the punishment was. Sure enough they sinned anyway which created mortality for all mankind. Now everyone dies regardless, just timing is the only undetermined factor. And when people were extremely wicked and doing nonstop evil and oppressing each other 24/7 with violence, rape, orgies, mass murder, basically creating a hell on earth before Jesus saved everyone, at times God did punish them by taking their lives early.

If God has omniscience (knowing all things), both past and future, did he not already know beforehand that Adam and Eve would take fruit from the Tree of Knowledge? Did he not already know that the snake would tempt Eve? Therefore, did he not doom Adam and Eve to commit the first sin by placing them in the garden anyways, despite all of this knowledge? How can it be said that they had free will, if it is already known by God and thus already determined in His knowledge?