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  • Madeline r bentley on Hebrews 12 - 4 years ago
    my granddaughter which I adopted is trying to understand the meaning of bastard in the kjv her bilogical mother and father were never married. so she wants to know if she is a bastard. Then in Deuternomy 23:2 and Hebrews 12:8 she wants to understand what they mean. She has been saved and baptisted and is very much a good christian. Can you help me explain these things to her
  • Mishael - In Reply on Hebrews 12 - 4 years ago
    MADELINE: one more passage for your grand-daughter. Luke 4;16-19

    From Jesus
  • Mishael - In Reply on Hebrews 12 - 4 years ago
    TO Madeline: Psalm 27:10 is for your granddaughter. One of my favorites: If my father and mother forsake me, then the Lord will take me up.'

    Give these scriptures to her also: Romans 8:15, Ephesians 1:5 and 1 Corinthians 12:13. She is adopted by her Heavenly Father. She is highly blessed.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Hebrews 12 - 4 years ago
    She has nothing to fear as far as her salvation goes. In the human sense, a bastard is someone who has been born to parents out of wedlock. She is not at fault. The Jewish leaders even considered Jesus to be a bastard child because Mary was pregnant before the marriage became official. If you remember, Jesus told the religious leaders that "You are of your father the devil." Their response was "we be not born of fornication." You see, they considered Jesus to be an illegitimate child, or bastard. But we know better.

    As far as salvation goes, your granddaughter is safe. Spiritually, we cannot be bastard children, because we are born of God's Spirit. We are legitimate children of God, and He does not see us as bastards. We are God's children. He has given us to His Son. And Jesus promised us that all whom the Father has given to Him, He will not lose one, not a single one. That's Christ's promise to us. Your granddaughter needs to know that she is safe in His powerful grip. God bless!
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Hebrews 12 - 4 years ago
    The the Bible meaning and modern meaning of bastard are not the same. Looking into the context will usually clear up the explanation and meaning of the term.

    Zechariah Chapter 9:4 Behold, the Lord will cast her out, and he will smite her power in the sea; and she shall be devoured with fire.

    5 Ashkelon shall see [it], and fear; Gaza also [shall see it], and be very sorrowful, and Ekron; for her expectation shall be ashamed; and the king shall perish from Gaza, and Ashkelon shall not be inhabited.

    6 And a bastard shall dwell in Ashdod, and I will cut off the pride of the Philistines.

    Goliath the giant that David faced was a Philistine and was considered a bastard.

    may I suggest the booklet The Angels That Sinned: Author Clifton L. Fowler

    He founded the Denver Bible college



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