Bible Discussion Thread

All 4 of these letters to each of the 4 angels of the 4 churches that are used as symbols have both faults and virtues. In Ephesus as an example the virtue is "patience" while the fault is "left thy first love". The virtues give hope that each of us can reach higher still while the faults mean we still have a ways to go but we must do our best. To discover what our "first love" truly is you need merely decipher the next verse as it contains the conjunction "therefore". Go to the web and google search "first love" and you will obtain 2.5M hits all different without a distinction - you don't love God or Jesus or The Holy Ghost or Salvation or an assurance of heaven, blah, blah, blah. None of those articles uses logic, rhetoric or evidence. All ministers, priests, pastors, clergymen all say the same things using hillbilly logic.

However in verse 5 you have the answer as all of Revelation is written in symbols or figurative speech. Nothing is literal. Nothing.

therefore - conjunction with verse 4 so this is the answer

Remember...fallen - figurative so not Garden of Eden. This First Love hasn't been done for millennia.

repent - not of sins - START doing this First Love by teaching yourself...

first works - chapters 1-11 of Rev. have the instructions to begin doing first works.

remove candlestick - at the gym you exercise voluntary muscles. John is asking you Christians to exercise the seven spiritual centers in the temple of God - see Rev. 11:1. Once you get good at being "in the spirit" as John was it will be your First Love. The one thing Jesus could not do without as He proved on the cross was not being in communication with the Father. It was His First Love!!

Everyone, good luck.