Ok, so I am 15 years old and I have a question. So there is evidence that people are ancestors of monkeys, and apes, and stuff like that, but in the bible, it says that we are ancestors from Adam and Eve. So what exactly are we descended from? I am really confused.
Your 15 and you are wondering what did we descend from. Well; Dalanie, I go with the Bible. So I would say Adam and Eve. The so called evidence on our ancestors being monkeys and apes is figments of their imagination where they take things from the remains of skull bones in geological layers of the earth and say that it indicates that our brains have changed to be like they are today and since the ape brain is something like ours; they think that we came from apes; but apes do not have a mind; and they can't account for that.
The Bible however does account for that. Some people try to prove it and others take it by faith; and I recommend that people take it by faith because try to prove it can lead to misunderstanding and people losing God, especially to concepts and ideas of evolution. Incidentally; at your age; you should also discuss it with your parents and keep them informed. As 4 schools teaching such things; they should also teach the flaws, to allow for proper thinking.
A simple DNA test will tell you exactly where you came from. They are about $100 now and well worth taking. You came from two people who had sex together, ie your natural your parents, and they from their parents. You carry the genes of your ancestors and we are 99% the same as an ape. That 1% has evolved in a milisecond of time compared to the billions of years that the earth has been formed.
I was notified that someone replied to my comment to you but I could not find any comment but I did notice this reply on testing for DNA. That's rather short sighted, ain't it. David No need of a test; save your hundred dollars; but don't embarrass yourself if u are an adult or teenager by asking your mother father or grand parents; but on the second thought; why not' they will probably not take you serious as seniors are probably wiser and of course they can tell you a lot; You can learn from them but they may laugh if you ask them that thing; and of course you know if they had your mom or dad when they were babies; they never really found them under rocks and or the stork never really delivered them or me, the doctor did; and so you know the rest, if you are over 5 as they even learn it in kindergarden, David, no need of testing unless u can test Adam and eve or their descents as they say that there were only 10000 left 6000 years ago and we all descended from them. I don't know what happened to the rest; probably wars or disaster or something, maybe pollution and ecological disaster and or a collapse of the economy seems to be most likely and maybe space men drawings in caves shows that; and that we were here maybe many times before.
No offense dude but I am going to have to disagree with you it clearly states in the bible that this world was created by God along with all things living on it, I was just simply curious because people are trying to rewrite history. And I was just confused.
History is a study of the past based on rigorous examination of the recorded evidence. When the people wrote the bible passages two thousand years ago, they did not have the tools we have today. Hence people's ability to write history was somewhat limited an anny attempt to record history fell into the category of mythology, usually written with very limited field of vision, and based around a very limited culture. For example, the Bible has no knowledge of the ice cap, the arctic, the rain forest, of Mars, or the deep ocean. Its written by people with very limited perspective.
Fortunately, today we can travel, we can examine the earth's crust, we can run tests on rocks and bones. We can do amazing things. Or we an close our eyes and repeat what we were told to believe when we were just kids.
The great thing is we have choice, and with choice, we can read and learn outside of what we ha been told is the
I did not C a reply to my "missing Link" comment; however, I think that this particular one relates more to Genesis rather than Acts 22, Bc the Bible and creation occurred much longer than 2000 years ago, and so I should reply there, to not take it out of context; and there are lots of things mentioned in the Bible; and it do mention Oceans, however it does not mention everything you can think of; and I would agree that mayB it does not mention the arctic, rain forest or Mars; but on second thought; it does as all that was created mostly for foods and other natural things, etc. So Genesis chapter 1 and 2 is where that is all in context; and of course man is amazing as he is or was, in the image of God; far above monkeys apes. and as for a limited perspective; God gave the breath of life to Adam, and man became a "living soul". There is no DNA basis for that. So, we have different views; and as far as I am concerned; mine has
Hi David, I'm sure you know that if you go to a Christian Bible website and claim that everything evolved rather than was designed and created by God that you will find most people disagree with you and will have plenty of Bible verses and evidence to back it up. I'm not sure what your goal is.
The assumption that humans are 99% the same as an ape has flawed logic.
The same metal from cars can be found in buildings, so does that mean cars evolved into buildings?
Your DNA is 60% similar to a banana. Does that automatically mean you came from a banana?
Your DNA is 84% similar to a dog. So you're part dog?
Your DNA: 90% similar to a cat
Your DNA: 90%-96%: monkeys, apes
Your DNA: 99.9% similar to other people
The reality is that God made all DNA a similar structure for all living things, so DNA is evidence of an intelligent designer- God. Atheist scientists are sometimes caught manipulating data to achieve specific pre-desired outcomes, so that kind of 'science' is closer to a cult religion that pushes propaganda.
Good question. We all share a deep curiosity to know more about where we came from. Many people study the bible. and others study science. I am curious to understand how my fellow human beings think, and I read and study both, and I learn something new every day.
You say the assumption that humans are 99% the same as an ape has flawed logic. You ask, just because the same metal from cars can be found in buildings, does that mean cars evolved into buildings? No. it means that both cars and buildings evolved are built by people with metal.
Our DNA is 60% similar to a banana. Does that mean we came from a banana? No, it means we both evolved originally from the same living DNA.
Our DNA is 84% similar to a dog. We are both mammals, more recently related than a banana. Ditto the cat. Our DNA is 90%-96% same as monkeys, apes. We are MUCH more recent relatives. And our DNA is 99.9% similar to other people because 200,000 years is a blink in the timeline of natural evolution.
It appears you're looking at the same evidence and coming up with a different conclusion. Science isn't opposed to the Bible. Science and the Bible are in agreement. What isn't in agreement is anti-God biased people who draw false conclusions about reality based on their own religious biases and call that 'science'. There is no evidence of evolution. Not one person in history has ever witnessed an actual species transform into another species, therefore it violates the scientific method to draw a conclusion without ever witnessing what is hypothesized. Many after already deciding what they want to believe without evidence try to find scraps to support it using confirmation bias, just like claiming DNA supports evolution, even though it actually supports intelligent creation. It's important to seek and pray to God for wisdom and truth so that we aren't blinded by the world's deception and foolishness.
(From previous comment): Evolution, promoted vigorously by Charles Darwin, is essentially man's search for his beginnings without the need for belief in & requirement for a Creator God. The only way for them to cast God out of the picture, was to say that humans came into being via a close resembling animal (the ape). It doesn't take into account that you & I have a spirit given by God so we can know God, know good & evil, can do right or wrong & repent of sin & be saved.
I think I was preaching. I apologize. I agree that creation is a false teaching that has deceived many people; generations even. These scriptures may be useful:
2 Corinthians 3:14, 4:4-6
1 John 3:8
1 John all of chapter 2
Some day soon I'll give a condensed testimony. I was born again on Yom Kippur 1985.
Mishael I dont think that you were preaching I think that you are a great Christian and that you have a strong faith and I look up to people like you. And dont apologize because you have done nothing wrong. Thank you for help out and I will be looking at those verses. So thank you so much. :)
Testimony: when my son came home he asked me if we came from monkeys & apes (which is what public school teaches; also that we crawled out of goo, grew legs etc). I prayed before answering. I asked him: do you see them living in nice condos with full refrigerators, air conditioning, tv and cable, PlayStation and pizza delivery?? He thought upon it and he said definitely NO. I asked: did God say He made creation, people and all the things we enjoy? He said yes. Then his expression turned to troubled. I inquired. He said I have to take a test tomorrow on what we studied about evolution. I considered that, and then I told him he had my permission to not take the test. I told him that we will do a project together to get extra points, then he was happy. He learned that he did not have to bow down to an evil world system. Christians should not allow their kids to learn damnable heresies. They are being taught about homosexuality and human procreation in first grade!
That is a great question. We have to decide for ourselves whether we believe the account of creation in the bible or the evolution theory. We came from somewhere. The bible tells us that God created everything, people and animals. The evolutionists want you to believe we came from monkeys and apes. Most of the people that teach the evolution theory do not believe in creation, that we were created by God.
Something you might want to think about though: if we are ancestors of monkeys and apes, or we evolved from monkey and apes, why are there still monkeys and apes today? I believe that we were created by God, and that the God who created us also created all the animals, including monkeys and apes.
There are still monkeys and apes because they are evolutionary rabbit holes. Its why there are multiple lines of hominids that died out. Human Biology, medicine, anthropology are truly exciting subjects taught at schools and colleges... thats where we can learn these things about our wonderful world.
In my home town there are so many foxes living from domestic refuse containers that foxes have evolved long necks. And hedgehogs have longer legs today than 50 years ago because of cars! And you shoudl see our butterflies. Evolutionary miracles in front of our very eyes!
David, I think we all accept that there will always be some evolutionary process going. You stated the long necks and legs of those animals. I even think of skin pigmentation or changes in our features. But, apart from our cognitive abilities which clearly separate man from animal, I believe that it is what God has made in His Creation that gives us the only real distinction. They are: Gen 1:26,27. We are made in God's Image with His Qualities (until the Fall) whereas animals were made separately with characteristics suited for their survival. Yes, we all return to dust from whence we came, but God's creative work was separate & specific for each of His Creation. Secondly, Lk 9:55; Jn 4:23,24; Acts 7:59; 17:16; Rom 1:9; 8:16 & many more refs. speak of a spirit in us (not referring to the Holy Spirit). This spirit is given to all humans, NOT animals, so that we can exist on an 'higher' plane, having the communication lines open between our Creator & His creation.
I don't accept that there are evolutionary processes going on. I do accept that animals will go anywhere looking for food and or better environmental conditions or die if they can not adapt; and adaptations do allow for changes in the habits and appearance of the animal but we classify that into different species. For example, we had no sewer rats before we had sewers; however; the rats found a new home there; and adapted (or evolved to become sewer rats); and so I guess you are right within species. The same thing also happens to other species; however, I don't think it happens between animals as all that look the same are in the same category; and apart from that, I think that they are just lined up from the smallest to the biggest and thus said to go from being small things to big things; but that is not evolution
I would like to correct something in "I don't accept that there are evolutionary processes going on.....but we classify that into different species. For example, we had no sewer rats before we had sewers; however; the rats found a new home there; and adapted (or evolved to become sewer rats); and so I guess you are right within species.
I got a bit mixed up; they did not evolve to become sewer rats. We just classified them to be sewer rats. All animals will adapt to live and survive and they take on new characteristics; and we do the same thing; but we are the same all over the world, people classified by their culture etc. We classify animals and then think they evolve. I don't like to talk about evolution and so maybe i could call it evilution, as that is what it seems to be to me. Sorry about my blunder on confusing the classification of species with evilution; and really the other people never evolved, They just live in different areas.
Most Bible-believing Christians don't believe in evolution. Genesis says how life began, and some people here are claiming things that are contradictory to scripture. Adapting is different than evolving into an entirely different species which no one has ever witnessed. Some claim that a bacterium does, but that's adapting. It would also be a stretch to claim that a larva into a butterfly is 'evolution'. It's metamorphosis is exactly as God designed it and His creation is absolutely amazing. So much so that mankind is without excuse for not believing as the evidence is all around us. Romans 1:20. It's unthinkable that people pretend that an explosion from nothing caused by nothing and designed by nothing made the most incredibly brilliantly made life and habitat designed better than the brightest human minds could ever imagine, then simultaneously male and female and food sources all were designed too. Amazing how easily people can be deceived into believing this.
to David Orren i was just wondering, were the Missing Links on the idea of evolution ever solved. It was discussed in the 1960. The idea was that there is such a big difference in the humans and apes and other animal in for example what we could do compared with other animals, how could the brain of other animals account for that? There is no comparison with animals even if there is just a slight difference in the DNA. Our brains are much bigger, i think; and of course, we have a Mind. I think that all that they have done for the last 4 generation is just teach that it is so. Education is turning out identical clones, everyone thinking the same, U never hear anyone mention the missing links.
You're right DaLanie, that the Bible says that our first parents (God's Creation) were Adam & Eve. We stand by this fact, as it is written in God's Word, & the Truths of Creation, the worldwide Flood, etc., have been passed down to us today from previous generations. So we do have the authority of Scriptures that man & woman are God's creation, & we are not descended from apes. Evolution says that from another strain of the primate lineage, humanoids developed & this progression (evolution) continued until the appearance of modern man. (see further note).
We can't find apes, monkey, anywhere in the Bible. It's so obvious that satan blinds people's minds. He's a liar, destroyer, murderer, deceiver and more. People never consider they are throwing a door wide open for DEMONS (plural) to come into your home and bring along Fear and Torment (it's name); all kinds of names.
I pray to God you don't have something big & invisible walk into your bedroom and Lift the bed a foot off the floor, put a hand over your mouth so you can't speak the Word Of God! Good news...God hears the cry of your heart.
Satan wants us to feel worthless, depressed, suicidal, empty, hollow...Then he has you. Proclaim Gods victory in your life and receive Jesus as Savior, Lord, Redeemer, Protector, Healer and more. Learn of Him. Use your own brain to become a seeker of Truth.
Ok, Thank You for all of y'all that answered my question and gave me an answer, I understand more then what I did. And if anybody got upset or frustrated about something that had to do with my question, I am sorry. But again thank you so much for your comments! :)
It was a great discussion, very appropriate, and you did a great job. Thank you and as i usually say; also great to discuss it with parents and if they agree, with the leader or minister or priest; and it is always good to learn things.
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The Bible however does account for that. Some people try to prove it and others take it by faith; and I recommend that people take it by faith because try to prove it can lead to misunderstanding and people losing God, especially to concepts and ideas of evolution. Incidentally; at your age; you should also discuss it with your parents and keep them informed. As 4 schools teaching such things; they should also teach the flaws, to allow for proper thinking.
No offense taken, thanks for getting back to me.
History is a study of the past based on rigorous examination of the recorded evidence. When the people wrote the bible passages two thousand years ago, they did not have the tools we have today. Hence people's ability to write history was somewhat limited an anny attempt to record history fell into the category of mythology, usually written with very limited field of vision, and based around a very limited culture. For example, the Bible has no knowledge of the ice cap, the arctic, the rain forest, of Mars, or the deep ocean. Its written by people with very limited perspective.
Fortunately, today we can travel, we can examine the earth's crust, we can run tests on rocks and bones. We can do amazing things. Or we an close our eyes and repeat what we were told to believe when we were just kids.
The great thing is we have choice, and with choice, we can read and learn outside of what we ha been told is the
Be well
David
I did not C a reply to my "missing Link" comment; however, I think that this particular one relates more to Genesis rather than Acts 22, Bc the Bible and creation occurred much longer than 2000 years ago, and so I should reply there, to not take it out of context; and there are lots of things mentioned in the Bible; and it do mention Oceans, however it does not mention everything you can think of; and I would agree that mayB it does not mention the arctic, rain forest or Mars; but on second thought; it does as all that was created mostly for foods and other natural things, etc. So Genesis chapter 1 and 2 is where that is all in context; and of course man is amazing as he is or was, in the image of God; far above monkeys apes. and as for a limited perspective; God gave the breath of life to Adam, and man became a "living soul". There is no DNA basis for that. So, we have different views; and as far as I am concerned; mine has
the foundation; and of course we all have choice
Peter
The assumption that humans are 99% the same as an ape has flawed logic.
The same metal from cars can be found in buildings, so does that mean cars evolved into buildings?
Your DNA is 60% similar to a banana. Does that automatically mean you came from a banana?
Your DNA is 84% similar to a dog. So you're part dog?
Your DNA: 90% similar to a cat
Your DNA: 90%-96%: monkeys, apes
Your DNA: 99.9% similar to other people
The reality is that God made all DNA a similar structure for all living things, so DNA is evidence of an intelligent designer- God. Atheist scientists are sometimes caught manipulating data to achieve specific pre-desired outcomes, so that kind of 'science' is closer to a cult religion that pushes propaganda.
Good question. We all share a deep curiosity to know more about where we came from. Many people study the bible. and others study science. I am curious to understand how my fellow human beings think, and I read and study both, and I learn something new every day.
You say the assumption that humans are 99% the same as an ape has flawed logic. You ask, just because the same metal from cars can be found in buildings, does that mean cars evolved into buildings? No. it means that both cars and buildings evolved are built by people with metal.
Our DNA is 60% similar to a banana. Does that mean we came from a banana? No, it means we both evolved originally from the same living DNA.
Our DNA is 84% similar to a dog. We are both mammals, more recently related than a banana. Ditto the cat. Our DNA is 90%-96% same as monkeys, apes. We are MUCH more recent relatives. And our DNA is 99.9% similar to other people because 200,000 years is a blink in the timeline of natural evolution.
2 Corinthians 3:14, 4:4-6
1 John 3:8
1 John all of chapter 2
Some day soon I'll give a condensed testimony. I was born again on Yom Kippur 1985.
What do you think?
That is a great question. We have to decide for ourselves whether we believe the account of creation in the bible or the evolution theory. We came from somewhere. The bible tells us that God created everything, people and animals. The evolutionists want you to believe we came from monkeys and apes. Most of the people that teach the evolution theory do not believe in creation, that we were created by God.
Something you might want to think about though: if we are ancestors of monkeys and apes, or we evolved from monkey and apes, why are there still monkeys and apes today? I believe that we were created by God, and that the God who created us also created all the animals, including monkeys and apes.
In my home town there are so many foxes living from domestic refuse containers that foxes have evolved long necks. And hedgehogs have longer legs today than 50 years ago because of cars! And you shoudl see our butterflies. Evolutionary miracles in front of our very eyes!
Be well
David
I got a bit mixed up; they did not evolve to become sewer rats. We just classified them to be sewer rats. All animals will adapt to live and survive and they take on new characteristics; and we do the same thing; but we are the same all over the world, people classified by their culture etc. We classify animals and then think they evolve. I don't like to talk about evolution and so maybe i could call it evilution, as that is what it seems to be to me. Sorry about my blunder on confusing the classification of species with evilution; and really the other people never evolved, They just live in different areas.
I pray to God you don't have something big & invisible walk into your bedroom and Lift the bed a foot off the floor, put a hand over your mouth so you can't speak the Word Of God! Good news...God hears the cry of your heart.
Satan wants us to feel worthless, depressed, suicidal, empty, hollow...Then he has you. Proclaim Gods victory in your life and receive Jesus as Savior, Lord, Redeemer, Protector, Healer and more. Learn of Him. Use your own brain to become a seeker of Truth.
Renounce satan forever! Receive Jesus.
It's a real war. Stop sitting on the fence.
Have a great day.
peter
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