Christians are to love all people? So are we to love satanists?
David a man after God's own heart said the following
Psalms 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
2 Chronicles 19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
Read that again why don't you.
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Deut 23: 17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a SODOMITE of the sons of Israel.
18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a DOG, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these [are] abomination unto the LORD
Romans Chapter 1:
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
I believe the phrase: hate the sin, love the sinner applies to this. I don't believe it applies to satan himself, but to people.
We're all sinners, but yes, I consider a sin like mass murder greater than a sin of lying, so it's only natural to look at the person more severely, but I think we should instead deeply hate the sinful act, and deeply hate those choices/decisions, but not the underlying person. For example, Hitler's sin should be deeply hated, but God made him in his image just like you. So the part that God created is the part we should love, even though that part might be hard to see as it can be clouded and hidden by the evil the person is trying to do. Even the worst offenders have multiple chances to make themselves right with God and if they do we should accept them. What if you hated a mass murderer who became a Christian, would you still hate him as a person? If so, then you'd hate one of the greatest authors of the Bible and evangelists for Christ: Paul. God loves giving people many chances, that's the beauty of grace, and we need to give that same grace to others, otherwise, we will be judged for it: MATTHEW 7:1 - God bless!
Sounds like what I wrote had no affect so I don't believe discussing further will be fruitful. You asked where the phrase 'hate the sin, love the sinner' is in the Bible- I didn't say that was in the Bible, but it summarizes what the Bible says. Loving others is everywhere throughout the Bible, including the 2nd greatest commandment. The phrase "So we should love satanists who follow satan?" isn't in the Bible either. But the answer is yes, Jesus says to love your neighbor (everyone) as they are made in God's image, not the sin or their evil choices.
I will end the discussion with this verse. It's out of Jesus's mouth and I'm not one to argue with Jesus. God bless...
David a man after God's own heart said the following
Psalms 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
2 Chronicles 19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
Read that again why don't you.
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Deut 23: 17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a SODOMITE of the sons of Israel.
18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a DOG, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these [are] abomination unto the LORD
Romans Chapter 1:
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
I believe the phrase: hate the sin, love the sinner applies to this. I don't believe it applies to satan himself, but to people.
We're all sinners, but yes, I consider a sin like mass murder greater than a sin of lying, so it's only natural to look at the person more severely, but I think we should instead deeply hate the sinful act, and deeply hate those choices/decisions, but not the underlying person. For example, Hitler's sin should be deeply hated, but God made him in his image just like you. So the part that God created is the part we should love, even though that part might be hard to see as it can be clouded and hidden by the evil the person is trying to do. Even the worst offenders have multiple chances to make themselves right with God and if they do we should accept them. What if you hated a mass murderer who became a Christian, would you still hate him as a person? If so, then you'd hate one of the greatest authors of the Bible and evangelists for Christ: Paul. God loves giving people many chances, that's the beauty of grace, and we need to give that same grace to others, otherwise, we will be judged for it: MATTHEW 7:1 - God bless!
Bible book of Malachi Chapter 1:1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
And I hated Esau, God said he hated Esau.
Yes I know some will say that this really means he loved less.
so when the Lord hates sin that means he loves sin less?
Oh Paul confirms the above in Romans.
So we should love satanists who follow satan?
Sounds like what I wrote had no affect so I don't believe discussing further will be fruitful. You asked where the phrase 'hate the sin, love the sinner' is in the Bible- I didn't say that was in the Bible, but it summarizes what the Bible says. Loving others is everywhere throughout the Bible, including the 2nd greatest commandment. The phrase "So we should love satanists who follow satan?" isn't in the Bible either. But the answer is yes, Jesus says to love your neighbor (everyone) as they are made in God's image, not the sin or their evil choices.
I will end the discussion with this verse. It's out of Jesus's mouth and I'm not one to argue with Jesus. God bless...
Matthew 5:43-48
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