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Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The SEVEN STARS are the ANGELS angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. Seems to me that each church has an angel for protection
Samson committed suicide and yet he is in the hall of faith in the book of Hebrew chapter 11
This is not something I would want to suggest to anyone, just stating a fact.
Judges Chapter 16 28 And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.
29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.
30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with [all his] might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that [were] therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than [they] which he slew in his life.
Hebrews Chapter 11 30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.
31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and [of] Barak, and [of] SAMSON Samson, and [of] Jephthae; [of] David also, and Samuel, and [of] the prophets:
33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
Judges Chapter 16 28 And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.
29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.
30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with [all his] might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that [were] therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than [they] which he slew in his life.
Reuben, the matter of one contemplating suicide is a very serious yet sensitive issue. I don't think that anyone who is found in that awful state of mind would be considering it lightly. And to add, no one could ever stand in judgement of that person as that alone is God's domain.
I had a friend that went that route as his suffering as a Multiple Sclerosis patient for ten years became far too much to bear. He saw only his pain, no remedy forthcoming & therefore no hope for living. He died rejecting God & His Gospel, preferring to end his pain & disappear into the earth, as he believed. He died rejecting & cursing God so his final state seemed quite evident, but for those who have God's Love in their hearts, yet are found in this very sad situation, everything must be done to help & comfort that one from taking a path that compromises his position before the Lord. Our governments also provide a Help Line & counsel as well, so that such a tragedy doesn't occur.
The bottom line is that suicide is self-murder - it is one's personal decision to end life, a determination & prerogative only reserved to the Lord God Who gives life & has the right to take it. I don't believe that suicide can ever be approved by God but as said earlier, we are not in God's position to judge or condemn. If you know of someone in that position, please take speedy action to direct him/her for counsel & help, whether a Church Pastor, doctor or a government agency.
Reading the Commentary on verses is often very helpful.
This is not something I would want to suggest to anyone, just stating a fact.
Judges Chapter 16 28 And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.
29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.
30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with [all his] might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that [were] therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than [they] which he slew in his life.
Hebrews Chapter 11 30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down, after they were compassed about seven days.
31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.
32 And what shall I more say? for the time would fail me to tell of Gedeon, and [of] Barak, and [of] SAMSON Samson, and [of] Jephthae; [of] David also, and Samuel, and [of] the prophets:
33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
Not sure if it is a fact that Sampson committed suicide.
Sampson was captured, chained, and had his eyes plucked out.
Could it not be said that he died in battle?
Judges Chapter 16 28 And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.
29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.
30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with [all his] might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that [were] therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than [they] which he slew in his life.
I read it.
I get it.
My question still stands.
I had a friend that went that route as his suffering as a Multiple Sclerosis patient for ten years became far too much to bear. He saw only his pain, no remedy forthcoming & therefore no hope for living. He died rejecting God & His Gospel, preferring to end his pain & disappear into the earth, as he believed. He died rejecting & cursing God so his final state seemed quite evident, but for those who have God's Love in their hearts, yet are found in this very sad situation, everything must be done to help & comfort that one from taking a path that compromises his position before the Lord. Our governments also provide a Help Line & counsel as well, so that such a tragedy doesn't occur.
The bottom line is that suicide is self-murder - it is one's personal decision to end life, a determination & prerogative only reserved to the Lord God Who gives life & has the right to take it. I don't believe that suicide can ever be approved by God but as said earlier, we are not in God's position to judge or condemn. If you know of someone in that position, please take speedy action to direct him/her for counsel & help, whether a Church Pastor, doctor or a government agency.
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